[WSG] Browser Specific Stylesheets

2007-01-25 Thread Jim Callender

Hi list,

Anyone have any up to date links/resources on using alternative stylesheets,
for other browsers than IE.


Opera, netscape..



thanks,

Jim


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Re: [WSG] Browser Specific Stylesheets

2007-01-25 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

On 25 Jan 2007, at 10:59:24, Jim Callender wrote:

Anyone have any up to date links/resources on using alternative  
stylesheets,

for other browsers than IE.


Opera, netscape..


You should turn the problem around. It's easy to produce CSS that  
works for Firefox, Opera and Safari (and other browsers that support  
the standards). Then produce a separate stylesheet that fixes the  
bugs in IE and include it using a conditional comment [1] that only  
IE can understand.


Making stuff that works in IE first, and then trying to fix it to  
work in other browsers, is a world of pain. Going the other way  
around is usually pretty trivial, once you get the hang of it and  
understand IE's bugs. For one large site with a complex layout I  
completed recently, my IE6-specific stylesheet consisted almost  
entirely of rules setting zoom: 1' to trigger the hasLayout  
property [2],[3]. If support for the broken box model in IE5.x is a  
concern, again, the additional rules included via a CC are usually  
trivial.


Oh, and always use strict rendering mode: some people think using  
quirks mode makes life easier but they're wrong - or rather, I  
strongly disagree :-)


[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/overview/ 
ccomment_ovw.asp

[2] http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
[3] http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/ 
properties/haslayout.asp


HTH,

Nick.
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http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/





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Re: [WSG] Browser Specific Stylesheets

2007-01-25 Thread ~davidLaakso

Nick Fitzsimons wrote:

On 25 Jan 2007, at 10:59:24, Jim Callender wrote:


Oh, and always use strict rendering mode: some people think using 
quirks mode makes life easier but they're wrong - or rather, I 
strongly disagree :-)


HTH,

Nick.
--Nick Fitzsimons
More challenging (and some say a lot more fun) is to get it working in 
either standards or quirks.  It then becomes your call as to which 
mode /you/ prefer :-) .

Regards,
~dL

--
http://chelseacreekstudio.com/



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