Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Dwain Alford wrote:

but it's supposed to be up to standards, yes?


Not according to those who have created it.
They have only said that IE7 is up to _some_ of the standards :-)

I would start by deleting 'width: 10%' on #valid, and 'width: 100%' on
.wsg, .xhtml, .css.  Those width-values only affects IE/win anyway, and
with the dimensional fixes in IE7 they'll probably affect that version
in the wrong way. Once they are gone the problem may be gone too.

Then I would add...
#valid {clear: right;}
...to make sure it stays in place even on really wide windows - in all
browsers.

Disclaimer: I still haven't bothered to download IE7, so I'm only
guessing about its bugs and fixes.

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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-22 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


On Nov 22, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Dwain Alford wrote:


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hey, it's 0100hrs where i am; i've been at this for some time now.   
sorry

for the brain fart.
dwain

On 11/22/06, Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 11/22/06, Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in ie7 the valid div hangs over the container div.  all other
 browsers that i can check render the div inside the container  
with a 1em
 margin.  what do i need to do to fix this so ie7 will render  
properly?


Is your IE 7 window narrower than in other browsers ?
The only problem I can see on that page are the 3 icons in the #valid  
div.
That is too narrow to contain the images in *all* my browsers {1],  
end the images are pushed out.

Correct behaviour, small human error.

Add this to your #valid rule block:  background:yellow;
then resize your window in different browsers. You'll see.

IE 6 is saved by its own stupidity (expands the container to match  
the content).


[1] Firefox 2.0, Safari, Opera 9,  IE mac, IE 7 windows,...

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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-22 Thread Dwain Alford

thanks, georg.  i had figured out that the 10% value was killing me, so i
changed the value to 80px.  that seemed to fix the problem.  however, i took
your suggestion and deleted the 10% and 100% values and added the clear
right to #valid.  all looked good in ie7.

so will ie7 behave without the width and height values now, or just width?

dwain

On 11/22/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dwain Alford wrote:
 but it's supposed to be up to standards, yes?

Not according to those who have created it.
They have only said that IE7 is up to _some_ of the standards :-)

I would start by deleting 'width: 10%' on #valid, and 'width: 100%' on
.wsg, .xhtml, .css.  Those width-values only affects IE/win anyway, and
with the dimensional fixes in IE7 they'll probably affect that version
in the wrong way. Once they are gone the problem may be gone too.

Then I would add...
#valid {clear: right;}
...to make sure it stays in place even on really wide windows - in all
browsers.

Disclaimer: I still haven't bothered to download IE7, so I'm only
guessing about its bugs and fixes.

regards
Georg
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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-22 Thread Charles Eaton


On Nov 22, 2006, at 1:08 AM, Dwain Alford wrote:

hey, it's 0100hrs where i am; i've been at this for some time now.   
sorry for the brain fart.

dwain


Well! ...it looks like you not only, cleared the 'air' around  
IE7,  ...you have added a great expression

to our vocabulary!


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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-22 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Dwain Alford wrote:
so will ie7 behave without the width and height values now, or just 
width?


IE7 will in many cases behave a bit more like the standard compliant
browsers, when no dimensions are declared. IE7 has plenty of bugs
though, so there are enough exceptions to keep you busy.

IE7 will (at least try to) obey declared dimensions. How it goes about
doing so in every case, is not quite clear.

Declared dimensions will still act as 'hasLayout'[1] triggers in IE7,
and a number of new properties that are now being supported by IE7,
will also act as 'hasLayout' triggers.
The result is that there are quite a few new ways for that particular
IE/win bug to enter, and mess up, our designs.

If you need to take advantage of that 'Layout' bug - or to avoid it,
then you're well advised to read up on the latest revision of the
article[1] on the subject. IE7 is pretty well covered.

regards
Georg

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[WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-21 Thread Dwain Alford

in ie7 the valid div hangs over the container div.  all other browsers
that i can check render the div inside the container with a 1em margin.
what do i need to do to fix this so ie7 will render properly?

dwain


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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-21 Thread Matthew Pennell

On 11/22/06, Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


in ie7 the valid div hangs over the container div.  all other browsers
that i can check render the div inside the container with a 1em margin.
what do i need to do to fix this so ie7 will render properly?



Code? Link? Telepathic mind-meld? Throw us a frickin bone, here

;)


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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-21 Thread Micky Hulse

Matthew Pennell wrote:

Code? Link? Telepathic mind-meld? Throw us a frickin bone, here


Lol!

Sounds like a clearing problem maybe?

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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-21 Thread John Faulds

Is there s'posed to be a link with this?

On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:37:25 +1000, Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:


in ie7 the valid div hangs over the container div.  all other  
browsers

that i can check render the div inside the container with a 1em margin.
what do i need to do to fix this so ie7 will render properly?

dwain


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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-21 Thread Dwain Alford

but it's supposed to be up to standards, yes?

dwain

On 11/22/06, Micky Hulse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Matthew Pennell wrote:
 Code? Link? Telepathic mind-meld? Throw us a frickin bone, here

Lol!

Sounds like a clearing problem maybe?

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Re: [WSG] what's causing ie7 to ignore the valid div rules?

2006-11-21 Thread Dwain Alford

http://www.alforddesigngroup.com/

hey, it's 0100hrs where i am; i've been at this for some time now.  sorry
for the brain fart.
dwain

On 11/22/06, Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 11/22/06, Dwain Alford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in ie7 the valid div hangs over the container div.  all other
 browsers that i can check render the div inside the container with a 1em
 margin.  what do i need to do to fix this so ie7 will render properly?


Code? Link? Telepathic mind-meld? Throw us a frickin bone, here

;)

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