Re: [OzMOSS] RE: VS Project type for feature - a few questions
WSPBuilder. Sezai On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Jeffrey and Caroline. So what do people recommend for solution generation? STSDEV or WSPBuilder. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jeffery Tsui *Sent:* Friday, 28 November 2008 1:58 PM *To:* listserver@ozmoss.com *Subject:* Re: [OzMOSS] RE: VS Project type for feature - a few questions You can add the instruction in manifest.xml that controls whether WSS will run IISRESET on each front-end Web server after the output solution package has been deployed, upgraded, or retracted. sample manifest.xml Solution SolutionId=24F91DED-8BA7-4633-8BA0-4C9B2A4387D7 ResetWebServer=True xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/; !--TEMPLATE files-- TemplateFiles TemplateFile Location=IMAGES\HelloWorld\AfricanPith32.gif / /TemplateFiles /Solution STSDEV is very useful in terms of building sharepoint solution, http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc337895.aspx Cheers Jeffery On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 1:38 PM, Caroline Specker (AU) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, I will have to skip your first question about wsp builder, but i'm sure someone else will answer that one for you. As for the rest: To clarify, a solution is a collection of features that you install onto a SharePoint farm. Once you have your solution file (eg whatever.wsp) you install it by running the stsadm command addsolution ( http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc263162.aspx). You can run this on a server that has central admin on it. Because you are installing a solution it will automatically install each feature in the solution onto every web front end on the farm. When you create a feature you can set the scope for the feature to Web, Site, WebApplication or Farm. Look at this link to see what elements in a feature can be scoped at different levels: ( http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb861828.aspx). A custom action can be scoped at any of these levels. Why do you want to copy the files manually when you can run a simple command line to do it properly for you? If you were to go down the path of installing individual features that were not wrapped up in a solution you would have to copy the files to their destination manually, and then run a command on each WFE to install the feature, but solutions remove that requirement. I believe that installing a solution will do an iis reset automatically for you. Sombody please correct me here if I am wrong. Other things you should know: Once you have installed the solution that means it is available in Central Admin. You still need to deploy the solution to sites. This effectively makes the features inside the solution available to the areas you deploy it do. You can deploy the solution either through stsadm deploysolution ( http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc262459.aspx), or from Central AdminOperationsSolutions Management. Hope this helps. Caroline -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, 28 November 2008 11:43 AM *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com *Subject:* [OzMOSS] VS Project type for feature - a few questions Hi all, I finally have some developer questions! This is my first foray into creating a feature for MOSS so please be gentle. J I have created a custom list action and a 'copy item' command for the ECB and would now like to deploy them with a single feature. I now have the following files and folder structure: CopyDeleteAll.ListActions\12\TEMPLATE\FEATURES\CEOCopyDeleteAllListAction\feature.xml CopyDeleteAll.ListActions\12\TEMPLATE\FEATURES\CEOCopyDeleteAllListAction\actions.xml CEO.CopyDeleteAll.ListActions\12\TEMPLATE\LAYOUTS\myCustomPages\CopyListItemECB.aspx CEO.CopyDeleteAll.ListActions\12\TEMPLATE\LAYOUTS\myCustomPages\DeleteAllListAction.aspx So far so good. I would now like to wrap everything up in a solution but WSPBuilder Extensions expects a project file. So… Questions: - What type of project file should I start with for something like this? I have the VSeWSS for VS 2008 installed. - Do I install on the application server or (one of) the web front ends? - Can I set the scope to Site? - Is there anything preventing me from just copying the files to their destination manually? - Does this require an IIS reset? - Is there anything else I should know? Thanks in advance, Paul --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com ** - NOTICE FROM DIMENSION DATA
Re: [OzMOSS] Sharepoint Object Modal to server 2
Tommy and Brendan are correct. but I thought you could on same network/domain? I think the servers need to be part of the same SharePoint Farm - not 100% sure if you can instantiate an SPSite object on a server if it doesn't have the site explicitly extended or running on the server. If they're in the same farm and you still can't create an SPSite then you can extend the same web app to both servers to be able to run OM code on both servers that will affect the same site collection. If that still doesn't work then Brendan's suggestion regarding web services is the way to go. Sezai On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Trent Allday [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Thanks, I think that you can only use the object model to access web apps within the same farm... (Correct me if I'm wrong devs) You may have to bite the bullet here and use the web services. I know you cant use the object model to remote servers but I thought you could on same network/domain? I have done it before using one server – I just made the two sites use the same application pool (in this case that's not possible). I can ping the server and the telnet GET command returns this. Regards, Trent *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Brown *Sent:* Thursday, 13 November 2008 11:20 AM *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com *Subject:* RE: [OzMOSS] Sharepoint Object Modal to server 2 Hi Trent, Really silly question, but can Server2 ping Server1? If so, can it connect to Server1 via telnet on port 80? (start-run-cmd-telnet server1 80)? From the look of the error message, it's more of a connectivity issue that security/authentication/authorization/permissions. Cheers, Daniel *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Trent Allday *Sent:* Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:42 AM *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com *Subject:* [OzMOSS] Sharepoint Object Modal to server 2 Hi, Hoping someone can help me out here after endless googling. I have two sharepoint MOSS environments (2 separate servers) both are on the same internal network using the same Active Directory. I am trying to lookup a sharepoint list on server 1 from server 2's sharepoint site. Below is the code snippet from the webpart on server 2. Using mysite As New SPSite(http://server1/;) Using ElevatedSite As SPWeb = mysite.OpenWeb() Dim List As SPList = ElevatedSite.Lists(Associations) Dim query As SPQuery = New SPQuery() Dim items As SPListItemCollection = List.GetItems(query) 'print first column of first row HttpContext.Current.Response.Write(items(0).GetFormattedValue(Title)) ElevatedSite.AllowUnsafeUpdates = False End Using End Using I am getting the following error: *The Web application at http://server1 could not be found. Verify that you have typed the URL correctly. If the URL should be serving existing content, the system administrator may need to add a new request URL mapping to the intended application.* I have tried chaning the identity user for the application pool on server 2 but has failed to do anything. Maybe the identity user doesn't have permissions to server1 db, but from I can see the user should!?? I could try using web services but I saw articles on the net with perople experiencing issue with that aswell… If anybody could shed some light on this it would be great. Regards, Trent --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
Re: [OzMOSS] RE: SharePoint Custom Edit Form ASCX using GAC based assembly
Check these: 1. The .ascx file should contain something like this in its first line %@ Control Language=C# AutoEventWireup=true Inherits=YourNamespace.MoreNamespace.YourUserControl CodeBehind=YourUserControl.ascx.cs % 2. The namespace of your code file needs to match the namespace specified in the .ascx 3. You code file needs to inherit from System.Web.UI.UserControl probably more to it - but that's all I can think of at the moment. Sezai On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Trevor Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi All, I've got a custom edit form ASCX which includes an SPDataSource and SPGridView control. We have a number of methods that respond to the OnInit method of the SPDataSource originally ... We've got all this going using a codefile distributed with the ASCX, but we'd obviously prefer to distribute the code as a GACable assembly ... We've been able to create the class, reference it using an Assembly directive within the ASCX control, but we don't seem to be able to directly reference the methods in the assembly from the inline event attributes within the markup of the ASCX control. For example, in the SPDataSource definition, we have an OnInit attribute: OnInit= onDsImagesOnInit When the code was in the codefile associated with the ASCX this all worked fine. We've tried a number of combinations such as qualifying the method name with the assembly name, the namespace qualified assembly name ... but we always get the same sort of error message: 'ASP.editxxx_ascx' does not contain a definition for 'assemblyName' and no extension method 'assemblyName' accepting a first argument of type 'ASP.editxxx_ascx' could be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Web Server Extensions\12\template\layouts\SPControls\xxx.ascx Any thoughts on the correct approach for this would be much appreciated Cheers, Trevor --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
Re: [OzMOSS] Sending documents to Published Document Libraries
See - http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/sharepointtechnology/HA101181721033.aspx By default, you can use the *Send To* command to copy files to libraries within a site collection. If you copy files from a client computer that has a program that is compatible with Microsoft Windows SharePoint Services 3.0, such as Microsoft Office Word 2007, and a browser that supports Microsoft ActiveX Controls, such as Microsoft Internet Explorer, you can use the *Send To* command to copy files not only between libraries within a site collection, but also between different Web applications. If you copy files from the browser of a client computer that does not support ActiveX Controls, you will be able to copy files only to libraries within site collections that share the same domain name (top-level site name) as the source library. If you need to copy files to a site that either has forms authentication enabled or is a secure site (for example, a site with a URL that begins with https://), you must add the copy destination to the list of trusted sites in your browser. I was attempting the exact same 'copy to' as you recently and I could not get the copy to function correctly between web applications on the same SharePoint server ! it works fine copying docs within the same site collection though. See this - http://blog.funknstyle.com/?p=563 Amanda states that it works between web apps - but the first comment to the blog post states that they can't get it to function between web apps. So in the end I - 1. Developed a custom 'Edit Control Block' item to add my own Copy to blahblah link which would redirect the user to a custom application page I developed, passing in the list guid and list item id to my custom Copy page. 2. My custom Copy page implements a button and custom code to copy the document. 3. I made use of the SPListItem.CopyTo() method to do the copy the document, and I recall I had to set the source SPWeb to AllowUnsafeUpdates=true. and I was able to get this to copy the documents to different web apps! 4. It seems quite a lot of people have problems with even using the SPListItem.CopyTo() method - http://weblogs.asp.net/erobillard/archive/2008/01/14/translated-solution-to-splistitem-copyto-bug.aspx In the end after all this custom dev I got it to work fine and can now copy docs between web apps, and by implementing a custom copy page you have more control over functionality to lock down parts of it as needed. ie. I check if the source and destination documents are not checked out before allowing the copy - and I have locked down the destination copy location from specific source libraries to specific destination libraries. The best part is I not only needed to copy the docs but also modify word document contents. I used the OpenXml SDK and on copying the document I implemented code to change the document content. ie. swap out text and images automatically on the copy to keep the same document content but rebrand it for another business unit. Sezai My custom Copy page then had a copy On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Kristopher Currie [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi guys, I am hoping someone can point me out in the right direction. I am working with a client at the moment using WSS 3.0. My client deals mostly in writing reports and collaborating with other customer departments. I have created various Team Sites with attached Document sites.. I have also created a Published Document Library on the Top Level Site. What I want to do is when a team has finished their collaborated documents in their team sites, they can send those documents to the Published Documents library, and from there attach these documents to their reports. When I use the Send To option in the Team libraries, it says to state the URL that I want to send them to. I use the URL of the Published document library, but when I hit okay, an error message appears: There were errors copying to this location, ensure the location exists, you have write permissions to it and the destination file is not in use. The sticking point is that when I test the URL, it comes up with my desired destination. I am a junior developer and I wasn't present for the initial build on the site, has anyone experienced this before, and if so, what area should I be looking at? Thanks in advance. Kris IMPORTANT NOTICE TO RECIPIENT Computer viruses - It is your responsibility to scan this email and any attachments for viruses and defects and rely on those scans as Communications Design Management Pty Limited (CDM) does not accept any liability for loss or damage arising from receipt or use of this email or any attachments. Confidentiality - This email and any attachments are intended for the named recipient only and may contain personal information, be it confidential or subject to privilege, none of which are lost or waived because this email may have been sent to you in error. If you are not the named
Re: [OzMOSS] MOSS 2007 Application Development Exam
That's so true - which is why I don't ever take exam scores as an indication of a good developer - which is a shame because some people do the exams without getting trial exams off the web - ie. they study the usual 'honest' way and go into the exam without seeing the questions previously. Some people are good at exams and do well - but the same people when working on real world projects they 'aren't so good' Some people can also FAIL exams badly, but they can be quite good developers when working on actual projects for work... On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Arjan Paauw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest problem I have is that the questions where identical to the trial exams you can find on the web. I have 3 SharePoint certifications with 100% score.. But I don't feel they are worth anything because I knew all the questions already. It feels like a scam. Cheers, Arjan *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *sezai komur *Sent:* Friday, 10 October 2008 8:02 PM *To:* listserver@ozmoss.com *Subject:* Re: [OzMOSS] MOSS 2007 Application Development Exam Yep I did it last year - and the biggest problem with the exam is yeah - such a broad range of topics to study. It's also common for people to only work with a few aspects of MOSS 2007 and people don't end up getting experience in BDC, Excel Services and other parts of the pie. Just do your best to cover EVERYTHING mate. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Uzma Naz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya, My company have asked me to sit an exam to get certification, it is for exam 70-542. I'm pretty confident with the material, just wanted to seek some advice on where to source information, how best to practice material. Areas that I must work on is the BI, BDC, SSO areas, as I have not worked on these for a while. Wondering how many of us have passed this exam! Regards, Uzma -- Try Facebook in Windows Live Messenger! Try it Now!http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354030/direct/01/ --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
Re: [OzMOSS] RE: Some broken links after port change
I think this Changing a sites URL / Moving a site to a new farm issue really needs to be sorted out for SharePoint VNext This is related to the 'incorrect page layout url' issue that was posted here a day or two ago. Absolute URLs are stored within a SharePoint content database and there is no simple straightforward way to update all the references correctly. To the point where only STSADM Export / Import (which uses the PRIME / Content Deployment API) is the only supported method for migrating sites between farms (ie. Dev -- Test -- Prod) The problem is that the majority of people out there (including myself) still heavily utilise 'unsupported method' for moving sites between farms - Site Collection Backup / Restore or via SQL Content Database backup / restore because they are faster and simpler than the supported method. So if a site is created in the farm that it will eventually end up 'living' in then no worries - but if you want the flexibility to 'MOVE' your sites around between farms or utilise different urls or host names then you constantly run into time wasting and problematic issues like this. There really needs to be a more simple, proven, documented and SUPPORTED manner to do this sort of thing On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quick update: although nothing is displayed in code view in SPD, when selecting a delegatecontrol a large range of properties become visible in the Tag Properties pane. I can see the PageUri here and have changed it to reflect the new port number but this also adds the value to the control in code view. e.g. SharePoint:delegatecontrol ControlId=GlobalSiteLink1 Scope=Farm runat=server PageUri=http://mydomain:999/_vti_bin/webpartpages.asmx; Is this the right way to go about changing these? I can't seem to find any other means through Central Administration and these hard coded changes are bound to get carried across to our production environment. Regards, Paul *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Paul Noone *Sent:* Thursday, 18 September 2008 3:10 PM *To:* listserver@ozMOSS.com *Subject:* [OzMOSS] Some broken links after port change Hi all, We recently had to change the port for our dev environment. Almost everything seems to have gone off without a hitch with the exception of a few broken links in master page controls. - Search form - My Site - My Links (sub links only) All point to the old port number. Is this a caching issue, or are absolute URLs set in some of the config files when these things were initially setup? Kind regards, Paul --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
Re: [OzMOSS] SharePoint output cache breaks the navigation menu
Did you backup this site from another URL and then restore with a different name? Or possibly moved this site between SharePoint Farms? I've seen this before in a site - pretty nasty error - basically your Page Layout URL is incorrect and referencing an older site. Luckily - as on many other ocassions Gary Lapointe comes to the rescue Fixes the Page Layout URL property of publishing pages which can get messed up during an upgrade or from importing into a new farm. http://stsadm.blogspot.com/2007/08/fix-publishing-pages-page-layout-url.html This is just a guess by the way - but I am suggesting this as we experienced a similar thing - ie. a menu item that renders as Error and hovering over the item displays the nasty error message Microsoft.SharePoint.Library. SPRequestInternalClass.GetMetadataForUrl Also - i've seen a number of varying problems in the past throwing an exception on - Microsoft.SharePoint.Library.SPRequestInternalClass.GetMetadataForUrl and it's not always the same reason - so googling this stuff can be difficult. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Ajay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am turning on MOSS output cache. (This is working fine on some other sites). When I check the option Page layouts can use a different page output cache profile Click Okay.. the navigation menu disappears, only top site tab remains in navigation and a new tab called Error appears. When I hover over the error tab.. it displays title=An error occured while rendering navigation for requested URL: /. Exception message: Value does not fall within the expected range. Stack trace:at Microsoft.SharePoint.Library.SPRequestInternalClass.GetMetadataForUrl(String bstrUrl, Int32 METADATAFLAGS, Guidamp; pgListId, Int32amp; plItemId, Int32amp; plType, Objectamp; pvarFileOrFolder) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Library.SPRequest.GetMetadataForUrl(String bstrUrl, Int32 METADATAFLAGS, Guidamp; pgListId, Int32amp; plItemId, Int32amp; plType, Objectamp; pvarFileOrFolder) at Microsoft.SharePoint.SPWeb.GetMetadataForUrl(String relUrl, Int32 mondoProcHint, Guidamp; listId, Int32amp; itemId, Int32amp; typeOfObject, Objectamp; fileOrFolder) at Microsoft.SharePoint.SPWeb.GetFileOrFolderObject(String strUrl) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.CommonUtilities.GetFileFromUrl(String url, SPWeb web) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.PublishingPage.get_Layout() at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.PublishingPage.GetEffectivePageCacheProfileId(Boolean anonUserProfile) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.PublishingPage.GetEffectiveAnonymousPageCacheProfileId() at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.CachedPage..ctor(PublishingPage page, SPListItem altItem, String id, String parentId, String title, String url, String description, CachedObjectFactory factory, List`1amp; fieldInfo) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.CachedPage.CreateCachedPage(PublishingPage page, SPListItem altItem, CachedObjectFactory factory, List`1amp; fieldInfo) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.CachedObjectFactory.CreateObject(PublishingPage adminPage, PublishingPage readerPage, List`1amp; fieldInfo) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.CachedArea.GetChildPageIds() at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.Navigation.PortalWebSiteMapNode.PopulateNavigationChildren(NodeTypes includedTypes) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.Navigation.PortalSiteMapNode.GetNavigationChildren(NodeTypes includedTypes, NodeTypes includedHiddenTypes, OrderingMethod ordering, AutomaticSortingMethod method, Boolean ascending, Int32 lcid) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.Navigation.PortalSiteMapNode.GetNavigationChildren(NodeTypes includedHiddenTypes) at Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.Navigation.PortalSiteMapProvider.GetChildNodes(PortalSiteMapNode node, NodeTypes includedHiddenTypes) id=zz1_TopNavigationMenun1table class=ms-topnav zz1_TopNavigationMenu_4 ms-topnavselected zz1_TopNavigationMenu_10 cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 border=0 width=100% --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
Re: [OzMOSS] MediaWiki migration to SharePoint
If there are none out there then you could build your own migration tool - that's if you can programmatically get to the MediaWiki data using custom .NET code - you could then create Wiki pages in SharePoint using SharePoint OM Code. BUT - if it's just 100 pages and this is the only MediaWiki migration you are ever likely to do then I would tell the client to do it manually as it will likely take less time and effort then developing a tool to migrate the pages. OR - you can build the MediaWiki to SharePoint Wiki migration tool and put it up onto CodePlex for others to share :) 2008/9/15 Michael Nemtsev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Did someone try to migrate MediaWiki to sharepoint?! Client has about 100 pages in mediawiki and going to start manual page-by-page migration all pages to sharepoint wiki sites. I tried to find any tools, but everything I found were FlexiWiki import tool from CKS, albeit there were mention that these guys are working on other wiki engines tools (including mediawiki) to export them. But I found nothing else except those proposals. *Michael Nemtsev *|* *WSS MCTS, MS MVP Readify B: http://laflour.spaces.live.com T: +61 424 184 978 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: 64-bit versus 32-bit for MOSS Environments
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crabbe, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 11:35 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: 64-bit versus 32-bit for MOSS Environments Thanks Sezai - good to know that it's not a deal-breaker. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 11:08 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: 64-bit versus 32-bit for MOSS Environments http://www.sharepointblogs.com/johnwpowell/archive/2007/07/19/64-bit-gotchas.aspx I'm concerned about support for developer tools in a 64-bit environment I've worked on projects where all our DEV environments are 32-bit but the production environment is 64-bit and this has caused no issues. You can develop the same Features+Solutions in a 32-bit environment and they should deploy fine to a 64-bit environment. I've also backed up sites from 32-bit farms and restored to 64-bit farms with no problems at all. Sezai Kömür BEng, BSc Senior Developer - Vivid Group Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crabbe, David Sent: Wednesday, 10 September 2008 11:00 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] 64-bit versus 32-bit for MOSS Environments I'm looking for some advice on MOSS 2007 server environments and how it might effect development. The Microsoft Best Practices for SharePoint Server (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-au/library/cc850694.aspx) recommend a 64-bit architecture throughout, which is fine. I'm concerned about support for developer tools in a 64-bit environment. AFAIK, VSeWSS still doesn't work on a 64-bit O/S. Are there any other gotchas that I should be aware of? Thanks, David. David Crabbe Consultant Asia-Pacific Web Solutions Centre Fujitsu Australia Ltd T: +61 8 9268 1505 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an email from Fujitsu Australia Limited, ABN 19 001 011 427. It is confidential to the ordinary user of the email address to which it was addressed and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy or forward all or any of it or its attachments. If you receive this email in error, please return to sender. Thank you. If you do not wish to receive commercial email messages from Fujitsu Australia Limited, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Production upgrade - user redirect - best practice?
Interesting - What happens with Solutions that are scoped as Global - Do they trigger an IIS Reset? or Solutions that target multiple web applications instead of a single one? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Witherdin, Nigel Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 3:21 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Production upgrade - user redirect - best practice? I think (though could be wrong) that it recycles the application pools of the Web Applications the solution is being deployed to, rather then a complete IISReset, which gives you the option of redirecting to another web application/web site on the same server that is under a different app pool. Can anyone confirm this? Cheers, Nigel Witherdin Senior Support Analyst Eversheds Direct Dial: +44 (0) 84 549 754 17 Mobile: +44 (0) 7738 553256 www.eversheds.comhttp://www.eversheds.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: 09 September 2008 07:01 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Production upgrade - user redirect - best practice? As far as I know an UpgradeSolution triggers an IIS Reset on your web server - so while the Solution Upgrade and IIS Reset is executing users will temporarily have no access to any IIS websites on the server, even after the upgrade users need to wait for the site to warm up, which can take ages for SharePoint sites. In a single server farm I'm afraid there isn't much you can do in the way of redirecting users. In that case it's probably best to execute the UpgradeSolution after hours over night if site availability is a high priority. In a backup/restore scenario then IIS should still be operational and you could temporarily redirect users to another IIS website containing a page with a The System is being upgraded type message. I must admit most of the time it's simply easiest to let users know that the site is being upgraded and they may experience problems connecting to the site in that time. For a MOSS 2007 WCM Internet website that's not possible so it's best to schedule upgrades in non-peak times - even though the site could possibly be accessed in non-peak times by some users. What do others do in the case of solution upgrades and system maintenance to ensure availability of sites to keep users happy? Sezai Kömür BEng, BSc Senior Developer - Vivid Group Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wampers, Wilson [Talent International] Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 11:42 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Production upgrade - user redirect - best practice? Hi All, Just a quick reflection: On a small single server farm - production, (WFE, SPS, Search all on one machine), what would be best practice in the communities opinion to redirect the user(s) during a solution upgrade? (backups, solution updates etc...) Any thoughts, recommendations? Kind Regards, Wilson Wampers --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com * This email is sent for and on behalf of Eversheds LLP * This email is sent for and on behalf of Eversheds LLP which is a limited liability partnership, registered in England and Wales, registered number OC304065. Registered office One Wood Street, London, EC2V 7WS. Registered VAT number GB820704559. A list of the members' names and their professional qualifications is available for inspection at the above office. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority (see www.sra.org.ukhttp://www.sra.org.uk/). Confidentiality: This email and its attachments are intended for the above named only and may be confidential. If they have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you copy or show them to anyone; please reply to this email and highlight the error. * [ www.eversheds.comhttp://www.eversheds.com/ ] * --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically
Feature Event Receivers sounds like the 'proper' approach (SharePointy) to this except they are less trivial to develop, setup, deploy, and debug when you hit problems with them in comparison to a quick console app or using powershell that list out exception messages and callstack. Depends how much time you have and whether you do need the ability to activate the feature across many web apps - Features can easily be activated and deactivated on sites via Site Settings - so once the feature receiver is deployed then all it requires is activating a feature to create the views programmatically for you. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Witherdin, Nigel Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 3:13 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically I would do it as a feature (so it could be turned off again, be applied to other web applications, acted on a site by site or on entire site collection, packaged nicely in a solution etc.), and put the code in the feature event receiver. But then I haven't played with powershell much, and if it was to be a run-once operation, a console app or a script can often be the easiest thing Nigel Witherdin Senior Support Analyst Eversheds Direct Dial: +44 (0) 84 549 754 17 Mobile: +44 (0) 7738 553256 www.eversheds.comhttp://www.eversheds.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Culmsee Sent: 28 August 2008 02:35 To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically Hi This is probably best done with powershell perhaps, as these sorts of coding efforts tend to be quick and dirty and the whole overhead of compiled app in visual studio is a little overkill. I find powershell really useful for 'smallish' little batch operations like this that are typically performed by a system administrator. Regards Paul From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Farnhill Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 9:18 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically Well you would need to do it in code somewhere, so that really depends on what your preference is - you could easily put together a windows application that would do this. To copy the view around your code would basically be finding the view object from the source document library and then add it to each other document library. So for example, to get the view use something like this: SPList sourceDocumentLibrary; // I'm assuming this already exists - get the list from the appropriate place though SPView newView = sourceDocumentLibrary.Views[My View Name]; And then to add it get the new library as an SPList object and parse the properties of the newView object into the SPList.Views.Add() method. That should get you started in the right direction. Brian Farnhill Consultant Technical Consulting Mobile: 0408 289 303 Fax: 02 8001 7778 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.uniqueworld.nethttp://www.uniqueworld.net Blog: pointstoshare.spaces.live.comhttp://pointstoshare.spaces.live.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C90921.A6480BC0] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lee Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 11:10 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically Which file would you create the SP View object in? Would you know the steps for doing this and how to use code to copy the view around? Thanks. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Farnhill Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 10:03 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically It is possible to create views from code. There are a few ways of going about it but basically you create the SPView object and then add it to the Views collection of each document library. I'm pretty sure you could create the view in one spot and then use code to copy it around (I don't think there would be any issues as long as each document library had the required columns for the view). Brian Farnhill Consultant Technical Consulting Mobile: 0408 289 303 Fax: 02 8001 7778 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.uniqueworld.nethttp://www.uniqueworld.net Blog: pointstoshare.spaces.live.comhttp://pointstoshare.spaces.live.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C90921.A6480BC0] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Lee Sent: Thursday, 28 August 2008 10:05 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Setting Library View Programmatically If we have a number of existing sites that has a document library which has the same views, and one day we decide to add an additional view to the document library, is it possible to replicate that view across all the existing sites' document library? i.e. programmatically add that view to the document library
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Site Templates!!!
Save Site as Template is not supported for Publishing sites : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925189/en-us The supported method to create templates for publishing sites is to use site definition templates. http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2007/09/19/save-site-as-template-option-and-the-publishing-feature.aspx Unfortunatelly the answer for this question is: saving publishing enabled sites as a template is not supported and it does not work. You cannot use this option to create new sites. Instead you should create site definitions (..\web server extensions\12\template\SiteTemplates) and provision the new site based on such a site definition. Update April 24th, 2008: The same statement applies if you save the template from SharePoint Designer. Also not supported. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reddy, Anand Sent: Monday, 25 August 2008 1:33 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Site Templates!!! I am using customised layout pages. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Monday, 25 August 2008 2:44 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Site Templates!!! Are you using custom, or customised, layout pages (with custom content type associations)? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Specker (AU) Sent: Monday, 25 August 2008 2:41 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Site Templates!!! Is the first page of your site using a Welcome Page page layout? If not then that could be the problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reddy, Anand Sent: Monday, 25 August 2008 12:17 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Site Templates!!! Hi Guys I am trying to save Publishing Portal and Collaboration Portal sites as templates. When I create a new site using the new template, I am getting the following error: This page is not using a valid page layout. To correct the problem, edit page settings and select a valid page layout. A colleague mentioned there are problems with the publishing and collaboration portal sites. Just wondering if there is any solution for this problem. regards Anand Reddy (Web/DB Systems Administrator - DET) ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com ** - NOTICE FROM DIMENSION DATA AUSTRALIA This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. ** --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressed recipient(s) only and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you have received this message in error, please delete the message and any attachments and copies immediately; and notify the sender by return e-mail. Any views expressed in this message or any attachments are those of the individual sender and do not necessarily represent the corporate opinion of the Catholic Education Office (CEO), Sydney. The CEO Privacy Policy is located at http://www.ceo.syd.catholic.edu.au --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. **
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Hit count for list items...
That's a nice implementation because chances are a list item could be viewed tens of thousands of times and you may face scalability issues, so storing it straight in another database is a good idea. It's good that the data can then be accessed in a SharePoint site via a custom list item menu option and other ways in SharePoint sites. I've found I've been approaching some development in a similar way, ie. Don't store the data in SharePoint directly instead store it in another system and you can still surface the data in SharePoint, so it looks like SharePoint, smells like SharePoint but it isn't 100% SharePoint J This depends on whether users want a SharePoint List interface to manage the data though, and whether they need the other good stuff lists provide such as versioning, security, workflow etc. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crabbe, David Sent: Friday, 8 August 2008 10:19 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com; Hinson, Brad Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Hit count for list items... I've seen something similar done with an HTTP Module that records hits on the DispForm.aspx for a particular type of list. The viewing statistics are stored in a database rather than on the list itself and then made available by a feature which adds a new Viewing History option to the context menu for the list item. The viewing statistics are also made available on a dashboard page via Excel Services. Just a thought, David David Crabbe Consultant Web Solutions Team Fujitsu Australia Ltd T: +61 8 9268 1505 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cosier Sent: Friday, 8 August 2008 6:47 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com; Hinson, Brad Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Hit count for list items... Actually, what you could probably do if you wanted to get tricky, would be to edit the javascript (or perhaps change the list template to use a new set of JS), such that it performs a client side script method call to a web service hosted under the same web application, which looks up the current item that you clicked, and performs the same increment on the column as mentioned below - but we're getting very hacky, and maintenance would be a concern. But it's just ASP.NET, so there's always a way around these things. Cheers, Matthew Cosier Readify | Dev Centre Lead M: +61 401 932 250 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://cosier.wordpress.comhttp://cosier.wordpress.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Cosier Sent: Friday, 8 August 2008 8:43 AM To: Hinson, Brad; listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Hit count for list items... Hi Brad, You could have achieved this using an eventsink or a workflow attached to the list - however, there isn't a hook for when an item is opened, only when it's edited (correct me if i'm wrong there though). Does that suffice? This means a user would actually have to save the list item back into the list - aka, open a document, change it and save it, for instance. Once you have the entry point, you can write some code against the API which simply grabs the edited list item, takes the current value out of the custom field (column) and increments it, and shoves it back in. Matthew Cosier Readify | Dev Centre Lead M: +61 401 932 250 | E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://cosier.wordpress.comhttp://cosier.wordpress.com/ From: Hinson, Brad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 8 August 2008 3:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hit count for list items... Does anyone have a strategy for recording hits for individual items on a list? Ideally, I'd like a custom column that automatically increments (+1) each time someone opens the list item. That's it. Sounds simple, but I can't figure this one out. Any help would be appreciated. /brad Brad Hinson Open Learning Coordinator MiraCosta College 760-795-6745 --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com This is an email from Fujitsu Australia Limited, ABN 19 001 011 427. It is confidential to the ordinary user of the email address to which it was addressed and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy or forward all or any of it or its attachments. If you receive this email in error, please return to sender. Thank you. If you do not wish to receive commercial email messages from Fujitsu Australia Limited, please email [EMAIL
RE: [OzMOSS] Diplay pages in hierarchy
MOSS publishing sites intrinsically use subsites as a level in hierarchy with one pages library per subsite representing a grouping of pages. It's tough when you want to work outside of this structure as the SiteMapProviders are built/optimised to run off the above assumption. I like Bill's suggestion - you could add an extra site column to your page layouts and use that for extra grouping within one subsite. Then build all your menus to make use of that page field. You may find that such a solution could cause performance issues as you now need to read the extra field from EVERY page when building the nav - so the sitemap providers do not return all the data which you need to build the menu, as you now need to loop through every page and get the field value from its SPListItem object. But WSS guys who've built custom Nav controls will have experienced these issues as you don't have the same Navigation providers that MOSS does - there's many ways you can implement custom menus. Sezai Kömür BEng, BSc Senior Developer - Vivid Group Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist http://www.moss2007.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Wednesday, 9 July 2008 2:20 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] Diplay pages in hierarchy We have this issue as well, and are looking into a tagging solution with customized display rendering instead. On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here managed to group pages into a hierarchy so that they display in tree view (navigation and breadcrumbs) in the manner of a traditional web site? I'm looking for a solution to port our existing website to a MOSS publishing site that doesn't involve creating subsites every time I want to create a hierarchy or grouping of pages, and it doesn't look like an OOTB one exists. Any tips, tricks or leads to custom web parts appreciated. Cheers, Paul This e-mail is intended for the use of the addressed recipient(s) only and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you have received this message in error, please delete the message and any attachments and copies immediately; and notify the sender by return e-mail. Any views expressed in this message or any attachments are those of the individual sender and do not necessarily represent the corporate opinion of the Catholic Education Office (CEO), Sydney. The CEO Privacy Policy is located at http://www.ceo.syd.catholic.edu.au --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results
Forwarded this on to an old friend who works overseas now who has experience building this sort of thing. His reply Yeah I remember this stuff - bad memories mate :) Another option might be to use JavaScript to build navigation menu items - the crawler wouldn't be able to interpret the script. It kinda sucks to do this and it might break accessibility requirements, screen readers and a bunch of other things. The solution you describe works, but you still need to provide some sort of index of all site content if there's no other way for the crawler to follow links. MondoSearch (remember that?!) used to support a noindex.../noindex tag that told the crawler to ignore a chunk of HTML. That's nice because links can still be followed and the content is not indexed, but the tag is not conformant to any HTML standards and wouldn't validate. A nice idea would be to add an attribute to an existing tag. Something like: div rel=noindex.../div. I *think* this is standards compliant but would have to check. Certainly Google are pushing a rel=nofollow attribute and some other search engines are catching on. It would be nice if the SharePoint search could support these. I haven't looked into it, but it might be possible to extend (or replace) the existing iFilters for HTML to add this behaviour. I guess hiding the navigation controls is the best approach right now. Even though that still kinda sucks! I'll stop with the ranting. You shouldn't have brought back those memories :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Culmsee Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 4:25 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results Nice work Sezai. I find WGET excellent for this purpose also (for what it's worth many sites abuse google crawls using UserAgent methods like this) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 3:22 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results See this : http://sharepoint.microsoft.com/blogs/LKuhn/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=49 You could possibly implement your own exclusion system by building in cloaking for your navigation controls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaking 1. Implement code in your navigation control to detect the User Agent string of the current request which will determine if the page is being indexed by the Enterprise Search Crawler. You can get the crawler user agent string from the following registry key. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office Server\12.0\Search\Global\Gathering Manager] UserAgent=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT; MS Search 5.0 Robot) 2. If the user agent matches the above than this.Visible = false; in your navigation control will hide it completely and the text will not be indexed. It's quite complicated to test and implement this sort of thing - Firefox has a User Agent Switcher add-on which you can use to test your code is working correctly. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results
I am thinking if it has already indexed the text of the menu than what will happen... That should be fine - if you clear your content index completely and then re-crawl. SSP -- Search Settings -- Reset all crawled content Has anyone idea if this kind of thing also happens with the menu controls which come with MOSS or is it a problem only for custom menus.. Not sure about that, and I too am curious if the OOTB menus also cause this search index relevancy problem. Does anyone else experience these search relevancy problems caused by ootb navigation controls? Sezai Kömür BEng, BSc Senior Developer - Vivid Group Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist http://www.moss2007.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ajay Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 5:11 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results Thanks a lot mates.. so this means in my custom menu control.. I need to check at pre-render if the request is coming from MOSS Search and in this case hide the navigation control... I am thinking if it has already indexed the text of the menu than what will happen... My problem is that my knowledge of Sharepoint search is non-existant Has anyone idea if this kind of thing also happens with the menu controls which come with MOSS or is it a problem only for custom menus.. Many thanks A On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Sezai KOMUR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forwarded this on to an old friend who works overseas now who has experience building this sort of thing. His reply Yeah I remember this stuff - bad memories mate :) Another option might be to use JavaScript to build navigation menu items - the crawler wouldn't be able to interpret the script. It kinda sucks to do this and it might break accessibility requirements, screen readers and a bunch of other things. The solution you describe works, but you still need to provide some sort of index of all site content if there's no other way for the crawler to follow links. MondoSearch (remember that?!) used to support a noindex.../noindex tag that told the crawler to ignore a chunk of HTML. That's nice because links can still be followed and the content is not indexed, but the tag is not conformant to any HTML standards and wouldn't validate. A nice idea would be to add an attribute to an existing tag. Something like: div rel=noindex.../div. I *think* this is standards compliant but would have to check. Certainly Google are pushing a rel=nofollow attribute and some other search engines are catching on. It would be nice if the SharePoint search could support these. I haven't looked into it, but it might be possible to extend (or replace) the existing iFilters for HTML to add this behaviour. I guess hiding the navigation controls is the best approach right now. Even though that still kinda sucks! I'll stop with the ranting. You shouldn't have brought back those memories :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Culmsee Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 4:25 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results Nice work Sezai. I find WGET excellent for this purpose also (for what it's worth many sites abuse google crawls using UserAgent methods like this) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 3:22 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Custom Menu text appearing in search results See this : http://sharepoint.microsoft.com/blogs/LKuhn/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=49 You could possibly implement your own exclusion system by building in cloaking for your navigation controls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaking 1. Implement code in your navigation control to detect the User Agent string of the current request which will determine if the page is being indexed by the Enterprise Search Crawler. You can get the crawler user agent string from the following registry key. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office Server\12.0\Search\Global\Gathering Manager] UserAgent=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows NT; MS Search 5.0 Robot) 2. If the user agent matches the above than this.Visible = false; in your navigation control will hide it completely and the text will not be indexed. It's quite complicated to test and implement this sort of thing - Firefox has a User Agent Switcher add-on which you can use to test your code is working correctly. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59 --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] How to programmatically get the Date, Time Location from the Meeting Workspace
Is there a need for your own GetListDataSet method? SPListItemCollection
already has a GetDataTable method.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.splistitemcollection.getdatatable.aspx
SPWeb oWebsite = SPContext.Current.Web;
SPList oList = oWebsite.Lists[List_Name];
SPListItemCollection collListItems = oList.Items;
DataGrid1.DataSource = collListItems.GetDataTable();
DataGrid1.DataBind();
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Richard
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 3:19 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] How to programmatically get the Date, Time Location
from the Meeting Workspace
Found some old code Haris, it's toitally taken out of context so it does not
make any sense but I had to quickly test and see what happens.
Anyway, you can access a list called Meeting Series in a Meeting Workspace,
this contains the info you want.
Ed
static void Main(string[] args)
{
DataSet ds = listmeetinginfo();
Console.WriteLine(ds.Tables[0].Rows.Count);
Console.Read();
}
static DataSet listmeetinginfo()
{
DataSetds ;
using (SPSite oSPsite = new SPSite(http://spdev2008/RandD;))
{
ds = GetListDataSet(Meeting Series, oSPsite);
}
return ds;
}
static DataSet GetListDataSet(string cList, SPSite mySite)
{
DataSet ds = new DataSet(cList);
SPWeb site = mySite.OpenWeb(/RandD/MS1);
SPList list = site.Lists[cList];
// Add a DataTable for each List
DataTable dt = new DataTable(list.Title);
// Add the columns based on List definition
SPFieldCollection fields = list.Fields;
int n = 0;
foreach (SPField field in fields)
{
// Why, I don't know, but it seems to work when I skip this
field
if (field.InternalName != InstanceID)
{
n = n + 1;
DataColumn dc = new DataColumn(field.Title + _ +
n.ToString()); //field.InternalName);
dt.Columns.Add(dc);
}
}
// Add the data
foreach (SPListItem Item in list.Items)
{
DataRow dr = dt.NewRow();
// dt.Columns.Count-2
for (int i = 0; i = n - 2; i++)
{
if (Item[i] != null)
dr[i] = Item[i].ToString();
else
dr[i] = NULL;
}
dt.Rows.Add(dr);
}
ds.Tables.Add(dt);
return ds;
}
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haris Siakallis
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 4:46 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] How to programmatically get the Date, Time Location
from the Meeting Workspace
I thought about this, however there can be multiple events with the same
MeetingInstanceID on the calendar list? But I will look into it again.
Thanks for the help.
Haris
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Richard
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 4:31 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] How to programmatically get the Date, Time Location
from the Meeting Workspace
Haris, I think an option is to use the MeetingInstanceID and SPQuery to query
the Calendar list for items related to the meeting workspace. Sorry, I'm doing
this from memory haven't got any source code for you.
Ed Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haris Siakallis
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Subject: [OzMOSS] How to programmatically get the Date, Time Location from
the Meeting Workspace
Hello,
I am wondering how to programmatically retrieve the Date, Time Location from
a meeting workspace using VB.net or C#.
I have been surfing the internet for the last few hours with no success.
However I came across two identical questions, in which no answer was provided.
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/forumarchives/Sharepointwindowsservicesdevelopment/Dec2005/post24722734.asp
RE: [OzMOSS] SharePoint designer crashes
You may want to try out the SharePoint Developer Explorer on codeplex, it's a Visual Studio plugin which allows you to view and open files from a SharePoint site in Visual Studio for editing. http://www.codeplex.com/spdevexplorer http://blog.thekid.me.uk/archive/2007/10/15/sharepoint-developer-explorer-visual-studio-add-in.aspx Sezai Kömür BEng, BSc Senior Developer - Vivid Group Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crabbe, David Sent: Friday, 20 June 2008 10:43 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] SharePoint designer crashes Okay, thanks. Well I've discovered a workaround to my own problem with editing web part pages using SPD on a remote site. In SPD you can choose to Open With... when trying to edit a page. When you edit in an application like Visual Studio, your changes are committed back to SharePoint successfully, unlike SPD. Just in case anyone else experiences a similar issue. Thanks, David. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Stevens Sent: Friday, 20 June 2008 10:33 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] SharePoint designer crashes No I have given up at the moment. I don't have enough knowledge on how to fix it. I strongly suspect it is due to a setup error. I had a similar problem in the past .It went away after I re-installed wss after a server re-install. I hadn't used SPD used it for a while, and it has come back. Between times, I have restored SP from a backup, and have had a lot of little problems that I have fixed by mucking around with wss. I have been tracking down all the errors in my event log, and hoping that fixing all of these might eventually fix the problem with SPD. Previously I had to save the page I was working on after any change to avoid a crash. I think the culprit is either permission on my database server, or .net. I strongly suspect it is .net When I am less busy, I will do a complete re-install, and check if SPD is working, and then restore from backup top see if it works after that. During my research, I found a suggestion that if it was the SPD installation, there might be an issue if you have several versions of office, i.e. 2003. I will post if I have success. Cheers Craig From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crabbe, David Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 12:15 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] SharePoint designer crashes Did you ever resolve this issue? I'm having severe problems with SPD falling over regularly any time I modify a web part page. I installed SP1 and still the problem persists. Thanks, David. David Crabbe Consultant Web Solutions Team Fujitsu Australia Ltd T: +61 8 9268 1505 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Stevens Sent: Wednesday, 4 June 2008 1:31 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] SharePoint designer crashes Hello I am still having this problem, and can now devote some time to tracking it down. I don't know whether it is my installation of SPD, or my setup of WSS. Does anyone use SPD, and is willing to help me? If you could log onto a test site on my server, and do a couple of simple things to it, please reply off list to me and I will give you login details. Cheers Craig --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com This is an email from Fujitsu Australia Limited, ABN 19 001 011 427. It is confidential to the ordinary user of the email address to which it was addressed and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy or forward all or any of it or its attachments. If you receive this email in error, please return to sender. Thank you. If you do not wish to receive commercial email messages from Fujitsu Australia Limited, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the
[OzMOSS] Automatic SP1 Patch?
Hello, I am looking at a MOSS 2007 farm which was setup over a year ago and has not had Service Pack 1 installed yet. BUT - when attempting to restore a site collection backup of a site in the farm to a pre-SP1 development VPC it wouldn't restore and reported that it was of a newer version. So I restored to a SP1 development environment and it worked. So we double checked the version number for the farm and it's - 12.0.0.6039 and not 12.0.0.4518 This suggests the Farm has had SP1 applied, but it was not applied by anyone! So my question can a MOSS 2007 farm environment automatically patch itself to SP1 with a Windows update or KB. Is this possible? I am concerned if there are any manual steps that must be taken as well that have been missed? Has anyone else experienced this? Regards, Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc [cid:image001.gif@01C8D1EF.F6AF9470] Vivid Group Sydney Level 57, MLC Centre Martin Place Sydney, NSW, 2000 Melbourne Level 40 140 William Street Melbourne, Vic, 3000 Perth 200 Wellington Street Perth, WA, 6000 FREECALL: 1800 632 341 FREEFAX: 1800 010 888 www.vividgroup.com.auhttp://www.vividgroup.com.au/ www.moss2007.com.auhttp://www.moss2007.com.au/ Disclaimer: The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please notify us immediately by return email or telephone 1800 632 341 and destroy the original message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. Thank you. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com inline: image001.gif
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: C# Help
If it were a custom site definition you could set that option via the Navigation Properties Feature Feature ID=541F5F57-C847-4e16-B59A-B31E90E6F9EA !-- Per-Web Portal Navigation Properties-- Properties xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/; Property Key=InheritGlobalNavigation Value=true/ Property Key=IncludeSubSites Value=true/ /Properties /Feature But I'm not sure how to set it with a site created using an .stp? Sezai Kömür BEng, BSc Senior Developer - Vivid Group Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Grist Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 12:39 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: C# Help Template is fine as manually it works. The GUI Option is Display the same navigation items as the parent site by default it is Display the navigation items below the current site Changing this manually fixes the problem but just need to know how to do the code Cheers Chris Grist Network Support Officer education.au Limited Level 1, 182 Fullarton Road DULWICH SA 5065 p +61 8 83343291 f +61 8 83343211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] w www.educationau.edu.auhttp://www.educationau.edu.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 2:02 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: C# Help It seems more likely that your custom template is missing the requiried content placeholders. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 2:02 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: C# Help What do you mean the navigation is not right? your code has nothing to do with navigation - it just creates a sub site. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Grist Sent: Friday, 13 June 2008 13:27 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] C# Help Hi Guys, Ive jumped in at the deep end creating some programmatic sharepoint solutions and need a tiny bit of help J I am creating a sub-site using the following code: SPSite site = new SPSite(http://chris-laptop/sites/home;);//http://MySite:12345 SPWeb web = site.OpenWeb();//makes connection and opens the site to allow modification web.AllowUnsafeUpdates = true;//Security setting that allows you to add to / modify the site SPWebCollection subsite = web.Webs;//creates context in the site to create a new subsite SPWeb newSubWeb = subsite.Add(CRM/ + OrgName,//subsite URL OrgName,//subsite Title ,//subsite Description 1033,//subsite Language code crm-template.stp,//subsite Template false,//true to create with unique permissions, false to inherit parent permissions false);//true converts existing folder with same name to a SP site, false throws exception if site name exists. However the navigation is not right, I have done some digging online and found an example but I couldn't seem to get it to apply to my code, I was wondering if someone can help fix up the navigation with the code required for whats above? i.e. the breadcrumbs are absent, and so is the top navigation bar for the portal. Any help would be appreciated. J Chris Grist Network Support Officer education.au Limited Level 1, 182 Fullarton Road DULWICH SA 5065 p +61 8 83343291 f +61 8 83343211 e [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] w www.educationau.edu.auhttp://www.educationau.edu.au/ IMPORTANT: This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain private or confidential information. If you think you may not be the intended recipient, or if you have received this e-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies of this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not reproduce any part of this e-mail or disclose its contents to any other party. This email represents the views of the individual sender, which do not necessarily reflect those of education.au limited except where the sender expressly states otherwise. It is your responsibility to scan this email and any files transmitted with it for viruses or any other defects. education.au limited will not be liable for any loss, damage or consequence caused directly or indirectly by this email. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1498 - Release Date: 11/06/2008 19:13 PM ---
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Content Types and Content Type Hierarchies
I assume best practice would suggest creating all Content Types once and once only and distributing them as features to all of the Site Collections that need them. Is this the best approach? Yes you need your base/parent content type deployed to all site collection which will make use of content types that inherit from your base content type. By deploying content types as features you can activate the same content type feature on all your site collections which need to use them, so the same Content Type IDs will be used in all site collections which should avoid issues. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor Andrew Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:29 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Content Types and Content Type Hierarchies Hi All, Can I confirm my understanding of the correct use of Content Types across multiple site collections? My understanding is that the moment you create a content type that inherits from one of the base SharePoint content types (say Content Type A), via the user interface, a Content Type ID is created which is a concatenation of the parent Content Type ID and a GUID. Now if you create an attribute / column equivalent content type in another site collection, it will acquire a different Content Type ID. If you then create a further content type that inherits from Content Type A in one of the site collections, my understanding is that these child content types will not be deployable to the other site collection, even as features, because they won't recognise the other version of Content Type A as a valid parent. Is this correct, or will it link up correctly? I assume best practice would suggest creating all Content Types once and once only and distributing them as features to all of the Site Collections that need them. Is this the best approach? Kind Regards, Trevor Andrew p: (03) 9323 5246 m: (0407) 535 615 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Content Types and Content Type Hierarchies
manually create these identical parent content types across multiple site collections? The problem with manually creating content types is that you cannot control the Content Type ID used it is generated when you create the content type in different site collections. When deploying content types as features you specify the content type id your custom content types should use and the same content type id you specified is always used. It depends on what you are trying to do really, you can get away with manually creating content types in all site collections, but by developing and deploying the same content types using features you can ensure the same content type ids are used for the same common content types across all site collections, therefor avoiding issues you mentioned earlier regarding linking to parent content types and deploying to multiple site collections. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor Andrew Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:54 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Content Types and Content Type Hierarchies Hi Sezai, Thanks for that ... So it sounds like I should very much be expressing my concern with a plan to manually create these identical parent content types across multiple site collections? Thanks for your very quick response. Cheers, Trevor Andrew From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 12:44 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Content Types and Content Type Hierarchies I assume best practice would suggest creating all Content Types once and once only and distributing them as features to all of the Site Collections that need them. Is this the best approach? Yes you need your base/parent content type deployed to all site collection which will make use of content types that inherit from your base content type. By deploying content types as features you can activate the same content type feature on all your site collections which need to use them, so the same Content Type IDs will be used in all site collections which should avoid issues. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Trevor Andrew Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2008 10:29 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Content Types and Content Type Hierarchies Hi All, Can I confirm my understanding of the correct use of Content Types across multiple site collections? My understanding is that the moment you create a content type that inherits from one of the base SharePoint content types (say Content Type A), via the user interface, a Content Type ID is created which is a concatenation of the parent Content Type ID and a GUID. Now if you create an attribute / column equivalent content type in another site collection, it will acquire a different Content Type ID. If you then create a further content type that inherits from Content Type A in one of the site collections, my understanding is that these child content types will not be deployable to the other site collection, even as features, because they won't recognise the other version of Content Type A as a valid parent. Is this correct, or will it link up correctly? I assume best practice would suggest creating all Content Types once and once only and distributing them as features to all of the Site Collections that need them. Is this the best approach? Kind Regards, Trevor Andrew p: (03) 9323 5246 m: (0407) 535 615 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
[OzMOSS] RE: FullTextSQL query help
Yes I think you may be able to get a document icon as a managed property. Navigate to your SSP search settings to the Metadata Property Mappings http://sharedservices/ssp/admin/_layouts/schema.aspx There are managed properties for - PictureThumbnailURL http://sharedservices/ssp/admin/_layouts/managedproperty.aspx?property=PictureThumbnailURL PictureUrl http://sharedservices/ssp/admin/_layouts/managedproperty.aspx?property=PictureThumbnailURL Hopefully they return the path to the image you need. Just use them in your enterprise search query - Select url, PictureUrl, PictureThumbnailURL from Scope() You may need to investigate further. Also, I suggest trying out as many Managed Properties in your query and look into the data returned by each, you can get quite a lot of data out of Enterprise Search, more than you expect. Have fun! Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 10:36 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] FW: FullTextSQL query help Hi All, Can anyone offer any suggestions for Shirley? She basically wants the icons associated with the results to appear as part of the search results.. If the item is a word document, she wants a word icon to appear next to it. That kind of thing. (see her email below) Cheers, Aaron From: Shirley Lee Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 10:33 AM Subject: FullTextSQL query help Hi All, I have created a custom web part which executes FullTextSQL query and displays results in a datagrid I want to replicate the behaviour of SearchCore Results web part by displaying file-type specific icons. The only way I could think of determining the file type is from the query Select url from Scope() and get the file extension from the urlIs there any other better way of determining the file type? Please let me know your comments/ suggestions... Regards, Shirley. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
RE: [OzMOSS] Moving site content
Wow! I was not aware of this - Be aware that backup/restore of MOSS content databases between server farms are not fully supported! Official documentation of this support limitation is currently in the works. The supported way to transfer content between server farms is to use STSADM -o export/import or content deployment. Backup/restore is only supported for the same server farm. So the only fully supported manner of transferring content between farms is STSADM -o export/import or content deployment ... I've been using SQL Backup/Restore OR STSADM -o backup/restore all this time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 11:34 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Moving site content Hi Anthony, I had this problem recently and found that an export and import works the best. Check out: http://blogs.technet.com/stefan_gossner/archive/2008/03/12/common-error-situation-with-when-using-backup-restore-to-transfer-a-database-to-a-new-farm-on-moss-2007.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc261866.aspx http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc262759.aspx Cheers, Aaron From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Hughes Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:18 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Moving site content Hey All, Just wondering on the best course of action for the following. I will be be moving content from my testing domain to a production domain I've read around that I should use stsadm backup and restore commands. Will this migrate all of the sites within the specified site collection and style libraries etc (will I loose the master page customisation)? To do this should I use a different procedure. Also wondering how it goes joining the new domain as it will have no way of authenticating against the old one? IMPORTANT - Please consider our environment before printing this email. This email and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged in which case neither is intended to be waived or lost by mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please notify us and remove it from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, any unauthorised use is expressly prohibited. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening or sending them on. Minter Ellison collects personal information to provide and market our services. For more information about use, disclosure and access, see our privacy policy at http://www.minterellison.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com
[OzMOSS] RE: Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
Michael is right, at times you don't need to dispose of SharePoint objects is
if you are writing code that will run in-context of a SharePoint Site, so a web
part or control added to a sharepoint site which may programmatically access
SPWeb as a shared resource you don't need to dispose the object.
On the other hand if you are creating a SharePoint Context programmatically,
say in a console app or a winforms app then your MUST remember to dispose of
objects correctly as SharePoint won't do it for you.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.spweb.dispose.aspx
If you create an SPWeb object, you can use the Dispose method to close the
object. However, if you have a reference to a shared resource, such as when the
object is provided by the
SPControl.GetContextWebhttp://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.webcontrols.spcontrol.getcontextweb.aspx?ref=ZindeShop.Com
method, do not use the Dispose method to close the object, but instead allow
Windows SharePoint Services or your portal application to manage the object.
A page with links to other related resources discussing memory issues caused by
custom SharePoint development -
http://www.21apps.com/2008/02/sharepoint-ate-all-my-memory-dealing.html
Sezai Kömür
Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist -
http://www.moss2007.com.au/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 10:10 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
AFAIK it's not the case where u should dispose your resources. There are a few
cases to dispose SPWeb, but feature not the case
Michael Nemtsev
Readify | Senior Developer
Microsoft MVP [.NET/C#]
Tel: +61 424 184 978 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Marriage
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:26 AM
To: listserver@ozmoss.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
A question on object disposal which has sparked a little debate. When calling
the FeatureActivated method, the object to the parent site can be found at
'properties.Feature.Parent'. Best practices for using objects which implement
the IDisposable interface say to call the Dispose() method when finished using
the object.
For example:
using (SPWeb web = (SPWeb)properties.Feature.Parent)
{
// Do something here
}
or this way:
SPWeb web = (SPWeb)properties.Feature.Parent
web.Dispose();
However having read this article
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa973248.aspx and seen many examples
on the www where the 'properties.Feature.Parent' isn't explicitly disposed a
debate has been sparked as to whether or not getting the web (or site) using
'properties.Feature.Parent' requires disposal in the aforementioned manner?
So what says you; to dispose or not to dispose?
Cheers,
Lee Marriage
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[OzMOSS] RE: Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
Yes it's confusing for Feature Receivers.
Read the first comment here, someone states its appropriate to use dispose on
SPWeb in a SPFeatureReceiver, because you're getting a new instance of SPWeb
http://weblogs.asp.net/bsimser/archive/2008/02/25/getting-sites-and-webs-during-feature-activation-in-sharepoint.aspx
Although, the example on that page does not use dispose. Still I am not 100%
sure or convinced you have to dispose in case of using
properties.Feature.Parent in a Feature Receiver.
To determine for sure try setting up a test involving deployment of many
Feature Receivers that don't dispose the SPWeb, fire all the receivers
continuously and then monitor the memory usage on your server. It might take a
while to setup a test like that, and you would want to run it on a fresh farm
in case other custom object model code is causing memory leaks.
Sezai Kömür
Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist -
http://www.moss2007.com.au/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Marriage
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 2:16 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
Thanks guys, I understand the basic concepts that you outline of when to
dispose and when not to dispose but I guess what I was after was more detail to
understand this specific 'FeatureReceiver' scenario; so to recap.
Good
SPWeb web = siteCollection.OpenWeb();
//Do Some stuff with web
Web.Dispose();
* or by wrapping the code with the using() { } statement.
Not Good
SPWeb web = SPContext.Current.Web;
Web.Dispose();
This article
http://blogs.msdn.com/rogerla/archive/2008/02/12/sharepoint-2007-and-wss-3-0-dispose-patterns-by-example.aspx
states that the objects returned by methods 'GetContextSite' and
'GetContextWeb' as well as the properties 'SPContext.Current.Site',
'SPContext.Site', 'SPContext.Current.Web' 'SPContext.Web' do not require
explicit disposal. All good I won't go disposing those. However, the article
also shows another example where a call to the 'ParentWeb' property of a web
returns an SPWeb object that does require disposing.
So going back to the question; does the object returned by the call to the
SPFeature's 'Parent' property require disposal? In the following sample
SPWeb myweb = (SPWeb)properties.Feature.Parent;
An SPWeb object is created (myweb) by calling the SPFeature.Parent property and
casting it as SPWeb. So as we are creating the SPWeb object (myweb) best
practices states that we should close this object using myweb.Dispose() method.
But if my understanding of Michael and Sezai's responses is correct then I
shouldn't myweb.Dispose() because the SPFeature is a shared resource (like
SPContext or SPControl) so SharePoint will take care of the disposal? Is this
correct or am I confusing myself further J
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 1:22 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
Michael is right, at times you don't need to dispose of SharePoint objects is
if you are writing code that will run in-context of a SharePoint Site, so a web
part or control added to a sharepoint site which may programmatically access
SPWeb as a shared resource you don't need to dispose the object.
On the other hand if you are creating a SharePoint Context programmatically,
say in a console app or a winforms app then your MUST remember to dispose of
objects correctly as SharePoint won't do it for you.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.spweb.dispose.aspx
If you create an SPWeb object, you can use the Dispose method to close the
object. However, if you have a reference to a shared resource, such as when the
object is provided by the
SPControl.GetContextWebhttp://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.webcontrols.spcontrol.getcontextweb.aspx?ref=ZindeShop.Com
method, do not use the Dispose method to close the object, but instead allow
Windows SharePoint Services or your portal application to manage the object.
A page with links to other related resources discussing memory issues caused by
custom SharePoint development -
http://www.21apps.com/2008/02/sharepoint-ate-all-my-memory-dealing.html
Sezai Kömür
Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist -
http://www.moss2007.com.au/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev
Sent: Wednesday, 26 March 2008 10:10 AM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Object Disposal in Feature Receivers
AFAIK it's not the case where u should dispose your resources. There are a few
cases to dispose SPWeb, but feature not the case
Michael Nemtsev
Readify | Senior Developer
Microsoft MVP [.NET/C#]
Tel: +61 424 184 978 | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
[OzMOSS] RE: SharePoint Exam : 70-542 (Application Development)
I've passed that exam, did it so I could add MCTS in my email signature. The toughest thing about the MOSS exam is that the questions span ALL of MOSS 2007, and compared to the WSS exam, this exam only covers MOSS specific topics. So you need to be across all of it Enterprise Search, the BDC, Excel Services, Content Management, Records Center, Information Management Policy, InfoPath etc. This is such a large amount of content to cover, and chances are most MOSS application developers in real life haven't worked on every single part of MOSS 2007. The best advice I can give is to make sure you cover every area of MOSS 2007 even if it's just a basic understanding. eg. If you completely ignore BDC and Excel Services because you've never used those components, then that's a large chunk of marks you won't get, if that's the case then you better get a near perfect score for the rest of the questions or you will probably fail. Good luck and all the best with the exam Anand. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reddy, Anand Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2008 1:07 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] SharePoint Exam : 70-542 (Application Development) Hi Guys I intend to sit for this exam in couple of weeks time. Just wanted to know what is the best way to prepare for this exam. Currently there is no classroom training or e-learning course for this exam. The only resource available is the book Microsoft is recommending Inside Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007. Not sure if this book is sufficient to pass the exam. Any ideas/tips will be very much appreciated. regards ___ Anand Reddy Web/DB Systems Administrator Regional ICT Services Unit [EMAIL PROTECTED] P: 02 9829 0675 F: 02 9605 4972 www.det.nsw.edu.au [cid:image001.jpg@01C88E7C.8A0484E0] ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com inline: image001.jpg
[OzMOSS] RE: Thesaurus / Did you mean
did you mean seems to automatically work, and the thesaurus suggestions are actually other words that have been indexed by the SSP. Eg. If I search for sezi I get a did you mean of sezai and I didn't do anything to set that up. My first name would have been indexed by the SSP and therefore exists in the search index. [cid:image001.png@01C885D7.AB518B50] I am unaware of how to specifically add extra words to display in did you mean. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris O'Connor Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 12:00 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Thesaurus / Did you mean Hello, Has anyone done much with the Thesaurus aspect to SEARCH within SharePoint ? From some Google'ing, I've been able to determine that you need to : * Update XML file - buried within the SharePoint hive - TSNEU.XML (neutral) - TSENU (english), etc * Have to re-start OSEARCH service (net stop/start) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837847 That's all that's needed - supposedly.But - can't get any of these to be included. The premise is to have this as part of the DID YOU MEAN function - ie. SpellingSuggestion - when doing FullTextSqlQuery... Anyone have any comments / suggestions / examples ?? Chris O'Connor Senior Technical Product Specialist Strategic Data Managementhttp://www.sdm.com.au/ | Mobile : 0410 407 207 This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net inline: image001.png
[OzMOSS] RE: Page Refresh Rate
That's definitely a much 'nicer' way to do it, and using AJAX will be a lot faster because it doesn't require the entire page to be downloaded each time. The users will also love it too. But Mike asked for a 'semi-easy way for a non developer' J It took me a while to get my first AJAX page going in sharepoint, it takes some time to get your head around the concepts and how to set it up, but I love ASP.NET AJAX, it's by far the easiest and simplest AJAX framework I have had to use so far. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Nemtsev Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 5:53 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Page Refresh Rate Why not not implenete ICallbackEventHandler (AjaxtToolking update + timer if u have Sharepoint SP1 installed) and update the specific part of info, not the whole page. I don't think that users will like the page blinking each 5 secs and restoring everything what they maybe typed or scrolled From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacDonald, Mike Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 2:03 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Page Refresh Rate Has anyone come across as semi easy way (ex for a none developer) to make a page in sharepoint do a auto refresh say every minute or less. I realized it will probably negatively affect the performance, but I have a page that multiple people will be inputting information into and potentially could be accessing at the same time. So I need the page to display updated information as soon as possible. Thank you, Mike MacDonald --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] External access SharePoint 2k7
The account your are logging in with externally might not have been added to a SharePoint Group in the site collection, so it doesn't have access to the site. Login to the internal site and check Site Settings à Users and Permissions à People and groups, and make sure that the account you are logging in with externally has been added to a site group. Did you 'extend' your internal site to create the extranet site? If you are using the same account that does work when logging in to the internal site, then it should work externally too. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Hughes Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 12:57 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] External access SharePoint 2k7 Hey all seems it was host header now another issue when i go to http://www.something.com i get the following error. Access denied. You do not have permission to perform this action or access this resource. anyone got any ideas??? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Hughes Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 1:16 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] External access SharePoint 2k7 Hey all, This pretty much follows up from yesterday we've made the site external accessible but I get the same error as when I tried to access via IP page under construction. Although everything is working when I access via name I.e. http://dmzsharepoint and I know the external mapping is working as when I make changes to the default error page there copied. Any ideas and I've already done the alternate mapping. IMPORTANT - Please consider our environment before printing this email. This email and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged in which case neither is intended to be waived or lost by mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please notify us and remove it from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, any unauthorised use is expressly prohibited. It is your responsibility to check any attachments for viruses and defects before opening or sending them on. Minter Ellison collects personal information to provide and market our services. For more information about use, disclosure and access, see our privacy policy at http://www.minterellison.com --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] Auditing viewing information within SharePoint (MOSS 2007)
Obviously we'd be reluctant to give the people who would use these reports this level of access, is there a way around this? SPSecurity.CodeToRunElevated http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.spsecurity.codetorunelevated.aspx http://www.kcdholdings.com/blog/?p=53 http://coppercoins.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!E15FE96DB520E62C!140.entry http://clintcherry.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AEC0DCBC460E45B9!419.entry Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake Sent: Friday, 22 February 2008 4:53 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] Auditing viewing information within SharePoint (MOSS 2007) Our biggest request is for stats on the portal other than just SharePoint List Items being viewed. So basically functionality similar to that you would expect from a good log analyser or analytics program such as Google Analytics. What are other peoples experiences with Web site statistics of this kind? Not just Auditing ones? Also, it appears that the only way to access the Audit Reports is if you are a Site Collectoin Administrator. Obviously we'd be reluctant to give the people who would use these reports this level of access, is there a way around this? Thirdly...they are XML files...is there any standard XSLT files that can transform this into something pretty for the business? Thanks again, Jeremy Thake http://wss.made4the.net On 2/22/08, Minutillo, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a requirement to record details of items being viewed on some sites, in particular discussion boards, however the requirement is likely to be expanded to encompass viewing statistics on a number of lists and/or document libraries. The original requirement for discussion boards has been met by using a custom HTTP Module that records requests for views of discussion board threads (Discussions) and individual messages (Messages). However as the requirement is likely to expand, I'd like to examine the built-in auditing options. I've used the Site Collection audit settings (site collection/_layouts/AuditSettings.aspx) and this seems to work okay. Unfortunately it's probably too indescriminate for our requirements. Does anyone know if there are performance problems with auditing everything at this broad a level? Alternatively I've created a Site Collection policy (site collection/_layouts/Policylist.aspx) and applying it to a discussion board results in no auditing information at all. The only thing audited is the change in audit policy. Does this experience ring true with anyone else? What is the consensus for recording audit information within SharePoint sites? Thanks, David. David Crabbe IT Consultant Information Systems Woodside Energy Ltd. Woodside Plaza 240 St Georges Terrace Perth WA 6000 Australia T: +61 8 9268 1505 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is an email from Fujitsu Australia Limited, ABN 19 001 011 427. It is confidential to the ordinary user of the email address to which it was addressed and may contain copyright and/or legally privileged information. No one else may read, print, store, copy or forward all or any of it or its attachments. If you receive this email in error, please return to sender. Thank you. If you do not wish to receive commercial email messages from Fujitsu Australia Limited, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com/ - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net/ --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzMOSS] RE: Source control with MOSS 2007
VSS 2005 will be fine if you only have 2 developers. I've worked in much larger teams with VSS and it runs fine. It depends on what you need. TFS has a lot more features apart from simple source control, such as it creates team sites for each project, and you get nice reports and statistics on development and a many other features. If you will only ever have 2 developers it's probably best to stick with VSS 2005. This white paper was recently released on the 25th January, it's worth a read - SharePoint Products and Technologies White Paper: Implementing Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007 and Windows SharePoint Services 3.0 Solutions Brief Description This document outlines a methodology for team SharePoint development combining custom code and content, with the aim of accelerating implementation and mitigating production risks. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=65f21935-cbc0-4178-8c08-4c56f721c87dDisplayLang=en Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zelda Leung Sent: Monday, 11 February 2008 1:10 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Source control with MOSS 2007 Hi All, We currently have a very small team environment (2 developers), developing for MOSS 2007. In the past, we have used Visual SourceSafe for our source control, but I've heard some not so flattering things about it in the past (such as degradation on large projects). We're at a point now where we need to decide to either upgrade to VSS 2005 or to TFS, or do away with it for something else (being a Microsoft Shop, that's not really the best solution here). Does anyone have any thoughts regarding the use of VSS 2005 or TFS for MOSS 2007 development? What have you used, and has it worked? Thanks! Zelda Leung Principal Developer Legal Aid QLD | IT Services Ph: 3238 3626 | 44 Herschel St, Brisbane 4000 DISCLAIMER: The contents of this email (including any attachments) are confidential and privileged and are intended only for the addressee. Any confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you by mistake. Any unauthorised use of the contents of this email is expressly prohibited. If you receive this email in error, please contact us, then delete the email. Emails may be interfered with, may contain computer viruses or other defects and may not be successfully replicated on other systems. We give no warranties in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the authenticity of an email purportedly sent by us, please contact us immediately. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] Source control with MOSS 2007
STSDEV is also worth checking out. http://www.codeplex.com/stsdev/Release/ProjectReleases.aspx?ReleaseId=10119 Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cropp Sent: Monday, 11 February 2008 1:49 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] Source control with MOSS 2007 SmartTemplates is actually built on top of WSPBuilder. So you can plug into all of the WSPBuilder features. WSP builder handles the creation of a MOSS wsp file. SmartTemplates gives you VS.net project templates that make use of WSPBuilder. On Feb 11, 2008 3:40 PM, Ishai Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out WSPBiulder on codeplex. good platform for features and web parts and the like, with support for VS2008 in the latest release. http://www.codeplex.com/wspbuilder Unlike smarttemplates it has more than just a template for web parts... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Cropp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 11 February 2008 3:35 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] Source control with MOSS 2007 Ok You really need to separate this question out into two. 1. What version of Visual Studio (2205 or 2008) should we use for MOSS development? 2. What source control system should we use for MOSS development? Answers 1. Unfortunately there is no template support from MS (At the moment) for MOSS in Visual Studio 2008. The current WSS extensions for Visual Studio 2005, as they state, are specifically for Visual Studio 2005. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=19F21E5E-B715-4F0C-B959-8C6DCBDC1057displaylang=en http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2473445SiteID=1 I understand that MS is looking into this at the moment. This means it is a little harder to create webparts and deployment projects for MOSS when using 2008. But not impossible. There are also a number of tools that are currently filling this gap. One, I am using, is SmartTemplates (http://www.codeplex.com/smarttemplates). It works seamlessly for simple scenarios. It is also fairly easy to extend for more advance scenarios. So I would say Yes move over to 2008. The new feature provided outweigh the minor problems you may have integrating it with MOSS. 2. This is really not a question about MOSS. Source control is a decision an organization should make across the board. It is not affected by what technology your projects are based on. My recommendation (based on the source control systems I have used). VSS Don't use VSS. It is old clunky and a simply pain in the butt. TFS TFS is good. Still has a few wrinkles to iron out but for a large enterprise it is a good fit. Features like workitems, bug tracking, integration with MS Project and MS outlook, and many free addins available make it a great tool. SVN Source control and nothing else. It can integrate with both VS 2005 and VS 2008 or be controlled externally of the dev environment. Great at what it does but has none of the advanced features of TFS. It has no work items, no office integration, no bug tracking. So this is better for smaller teams. The other option - TFS with SVNBridge MS has recently release a new project called SVNBridge (http://www.codeplex.com/SvnBridge). This allows you to use SVN tools like TortoiseSVN and VisualSVN to talk to TFS. What this means is that instead of using the Source control binding built into VisualStudio you use SVN style integration. This gets rid of many of the bugs and problems that people have with the Visual Studio bindings. I would recommend this option. Note: you can still use all of the advanced features of TFS though VS.net I will leave it to other people to comment on other source control systems. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question
ONET.xml is used for PROVISIONING new sites, but if the site definition contains .aspx files then these are actually read from the file system every time (unless customised) Changes in ONET.xml are read from the XML file the next time you create a site. So you are stuck if you want your existing site to make use of changes in ONET.xml. You will need to 'magically' export out the content from your existing site, then re-create the site (provision a new site) using the updated site definition, then 'magically' re-import it in. 'magically' - using a custom built or third party content import/export tool Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton James Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 1:18 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Site Definition ONET.xml Changes to the Site Definitions ONET.XML file won't be reflected in sites that have previously been created. Changes will only be reflected only when you create new sites. Site Definition .aspx pages modified using notepad or VS.Net If these pages are modified with notepad or VS.net (not SPD) and existing sites haven't customised these pages using SPD then yes existing sites will take on these changes. Site Definition .aspx pages modified using SPD If the .aspx pages have been customised using SPD then they are stored in the content database so changes to the original files on file system won't change existing sites. Cheers CJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi Sent: Thursday, 07 February 2008 01:53 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Depends what changes...changes to aspx pages will affect the existing ones. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hodges, Kristen Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 2:43 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Sadly no it won't pick up the changes automatically... but you can force it to reset to the Site Definition on a per site basis in site settings. This is MOSS 2007 I'm talking about here of course. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 2:41 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Dear All, I am having a mental blank at the moment and I can't remember for the life of me how this works. If I create a custom site definition, create a new site based on that definition, make changes to the original site definition. Will the changes be reflected in my sites based on that definition, or do I need to recreate the sites? Can you refresh my memory. Cheers, Aaron --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 05/02/2008 08:57 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.20/1261 - Release Date: 05/02/2008 08:57 PM --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question
Reset to site definition resets customised files in the site to the site definition, but it doesn't 'pick up' ONET.xml changes, which are only read during provisioning. It resets all customised pages. Eg. ONET.xml contains my custom feature - !-- MyCustomActions -- Feature ID=3B9E163E-BE5F-4df7-8A16-556F2FCD59F5 / It also contains some Publishing Settings Property Key=ChromeMasterUrl Value=~SiteCollection/_catalogs/masterpage/Mycustommaster.master/ Property Key=WelcomePageUrl Value=$Resources:cmscore,List_Pages_UrlName;/default.aspx/ Now if I edit the ONET.xml file, such as commenting out the MyCustomActions feature and change the ChromeMasterUrl setting or the WelcomePageUrl setting to different values. Then do an IIS reset, and then access the /_layouts/reghost.aspx page and select the Reset all pages in this site to site definition version option. My site still has my Custom Actions feature enabled and it still has the old ChromeMasterUrl and WelcomePageUrl it hasn't 'picked up' ONET.xml changes. Of course if you need to make these sorts of changes, you can easily activate/deactivate features separately as suggested by Clayton, you can also manually switch the Welcome Page and the Master Page for the site in site settings etc. ONET.xml is only read when you provision a new site. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Vranich Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 1:50 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question If you haven't customised the site from the Site Definition. You can reset to site definition which should pick up the new changes. Right? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 3:29 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question ONET.xml is used for PROVISIONING new sites, but if the site definition contains .aspx files then these are actually read from the file system every time (unless customised) Changes in ONET.xml are read from the XML file the next time you create a site. So you are stuck if you want your existing site to make use of changes in ONET.xml. You will need to 'magically' export out the content from your existing site, then re-create the site (provision a new site) using the updated site definition, then 'magically' re-import it in. 'magically' - using a custom built or third party content import/export tool Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton James Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 1:18 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Site Definition ONET.xml Changes to the Site Definitions ONET.XML file won't be reflected in sites that have previously been created. Changes will only be reflected only when you create new sites. Site Definition .aspx pages modified using notepad or VS.Net If these pages are modified with notepad or VS.net (not SPD) and existing sites haven't customised these pages using SPD then yes existing sites will take on these changes. Site Definition .aspx pages modified using SPD If the .aspx pages have been customised using SPD then they are stored in the content database so changes to the original files on file system won't change existing sites. Cheers CJ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi Sent: Thursday, 07 February 2008 01:53 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Depends what changes...changes to aspx pages will affect the existing ones. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hodges, Kristen Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 2:43 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Sadly no it won't pick up the changes automatically... but you can force it to reset to the Site Definition on a per site basis in site settings. This is MOSS 2007 I'm talking about here of course. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2008 2:41 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] custom site definition question Dear All, I am having a mental blank at the moment and I can't remember for the life of me how this works. If I create a custom site definition, create a new site based on that definition, make changes to the original site definition. Will the changes be reflected in my sites based on that definition, or do I need to recreate the sites? Can you refresh my
RE: [OzMOSS] MOSS V-Motion
This isn't the first time I have heard bad things about running SQL Server virtualised in general. A few people I have met swear that it should be avoided, something about the rate at which SQL Server needs to read and write from disk. Does anyone else have any more opinions/comments on this or any online references you can provide discussing the problems with running SQL Server in a virtualised environment? Also, what's Microsoft's official guidance for this ? Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Porter Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2008 1:55 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] MOSS V-Motion I have seen several issues with MOSS when you virtualize SQL. It is not recommended. You can virtualize the WFE's, but I have not seen SQL do well in a virtual environment. What are the specs on the virtual environment? Dave P. Subject: [OzMOSS] MOSS V-Motion Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:03:08 +1100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Hi all, We currently have a client who has a virtual SharePoint environment. Virtual Web/Application Server and a virtual SQL Server. We are seeing, when the web/application server is v-motion, a whole stack of database connectivity errors appear in the event log, the SharePoint logs bloat to massive size and owstimer.exe is peaking out. My initial investigation has revealed that while v-motion is happening, network connectivity between the web/application server and the SQL server is lost. Has anyone encountered this before, as this seems like a common setup and if so, is there a work around for this (we have currently set the web/application and SQL server not to v-motion and be static). Thanks, - Adelaide SharePoint User group - http://www.aspug.org.auhttp://www.aspug.org.au/ (Comming Soon!) - My Blog: http://www.danielbrown.id.auhttp://www.danielbrown.id.au/ ý Please consider the envrionment before printing this email. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzMOSS] RE: MCMS - MOSS migration question
Are connected posting supported by MOSS? Nope. My guess is that they are unsupported and ignored by the migration process. I think they’re ignored, not sure if the content is copied/migrated into multiple pages or not? You’ll probably get a warning message in the migration. Logically one page can only live in one sub web location in a single Pages Library. There is the Reusable Content functionality, http://blog.funknstyle.com/?p=577 or http://blogs.tamtam.nl/mart/ReusableContentWithMOSSContentManagement.aspx but its not really the exact same thing as connected postings, although it allows entering content into one place to be reused over and over. Another option is to manually add a navigation link (via the Modify Navigation tool) to the sub web where you want the “connected” behaviour, this isn’t ideal though as clicking the menu link takes the user to the single page which is in a whole different sub web, so it unexpectedly throws them off because they aren’t in the same section of the site hierarchy they thought that they clicked…. I miss mcms connected postings, they were cool. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Monday, 4 February 2008 2:07 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] MCMS - MOSS migration question Dear All, Quick question about MCMS 2002 to MOSS 2007 migration. Are connected posting supported by MOSS? How does the migration process in MOSS treat these? What kind of info does the CMS assessment tool report about these types of postings? My guess is that they are unsupported and ignored by the migration process. Can someone verify or shoot me down in flames as required J Cheers, Aaron Aaron Saikovski Senior Solutions Specialist – Information Worker M: +61 (0) 410 480 971 P: 02 9276 2728 F: 02 9276 2799 A: Level 7, 15-17 Young Street, Sydney NSW 2000 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.sdm.com.auhttp://www.sdm.com.au/ strategic data management Consult ♦ Develop ♦ Integrate ♦ Deliver Microsoft Application Infrastructure Development Partner of the Year 2007 Business Performance Management l Business Consulting l Customer Relationship Management Enterprise Project Management l Information Worker l Systems Integration This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are only for the use of the person to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you have received this email in error and are requested to delete it immediately. Any opinion expressed in this e-mail may not necessarily be that of Strategic Data Management Pty Ltd. Please consider the environment before printing this email. 0䒲鬹 +-靪g‑m$azX鬹 ުˡz˛筅聪j)^幊.+-ځ盋 0杉z ;3I'(��.�˛���m���ka��b�� �֦z����rKh����p��n�˛���m欶r�u��j)^���y�.+-��ځ�[� 0�杉
RE: [OzMOSS] Portal Page content
Here's some ideas... Links to prominent/important subsites or pages in your portal. Links to commonly used documents/forms. RSS Feed of News from an external news provider RSS Feed (or some other way) of the Weather Your Share Price Random or selected Staff profiles sourced from a list or from content in a sub-site. Random or selected Site/Location profiles sourced from a list or from content in a sub-site. Random or selected News stories sourced from a list or from content in a sub-site. Some pretty Flash. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Doyle Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 8:24 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Portal Page content Hello I am currently looking for some more idea's as to what content to put on our portals home page (accessible only internally) as I've hit a wall. So I thought I would send out this email and hope to get some replies to what people have done with thier own portal and such Thanks :) --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] Portal Page content
Check out this MOSS 2007 internet website as an example - http://amanaliving.com.au/Pages/index.aspx The home page randomly displays a staff profile under Spotlight On Our People, and it's linked to the individual staff member's profile page. It features a different person with every refresh, only a subset of 3 have been selected to be featured randomly on the homepage though, all configurable via a site list. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Williamson Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 8:48 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] Portal Page content I think a random staff profile is honestly a REALLY good idea. Perhaps even write a web part that picks one per day. Depends on your corporate culture, obviously. On 1/31/08, Sezai KOMUR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's some ideas… Links to prominent/important subsites or pages in your portal. Links to commonly used documents/forms. RSS Feed of News from an external news provider RSS Feed (or some other way) of the Weather Your Share Price Random or selected Staff profiles sourced from a list or from content in a sub-site. Random or selected Site/Location profiles sourced from a list or from content in a sub-site. Random or selected News stories sourced from a list or from content in a sub-site. Some pretty Flash. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Doyle Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2008 8:24 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Portal Page content Hello I am currently looking for some more idea's as to what content to put on our portals home page (accessible only internally) as I've hit a wall. So I thought I would send out this email and hope to get some replies to what people have done with thier own portal and such Thanks :) --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net �ÒI���r��y���b�X��ǧu���Ơy-��b���r��y�-��.n7���0z��o)��W�i�^rfjv�y��� +y�b) ;3I'(��.�˛���m���ka��b�� �֦z����rKh����p��n�˛���m欶r�u��j)^���y�.+-��ځ�[� 0�杉
[OzMOSS] RE: second level navigation menus in MOSS
A custom asp.net control its the way to go, you can render out what you like so you can develop a more light weight and faster menu (http://www.westrac.com.au), or any other fancy menu you want. I'm not a big fan of the MOSS ootb top drop down menu, it renders ugly html and significantly increases page size, so replacing the standard menus with your own custom ones is a sure fire way to make a MOSS site run faster. Here's some code to investigate : SiteMapDataSource http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.web.ui.webcontrols.sitemapdatasource.aspx SiteMapDataSource.SiteMapProvider = GlobalNavSiteMapProvider http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.web.sitemapprovider.aspx SiteMapNode http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.web.sitemapnode.aspx SitemapDataSource.Provider.RootNode SiteMapNode.ChildNodes SiteMapNode.Title SiteMapNode.Url From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 8:05 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] second level navigation menus in MOSS Hi All, We have a client who wants second level navigational menus created. (See attached image) Basically we have the top level navigation which contains Home, Products and services etc. Then when you select one of the Top level sites, It has to display a second level navigation menu showing all their second level sites and not the standard drop down menus we all have come to love. I was thinking of writing a asp.net type of control to do this but thought I would reach out to the community before embarking on this. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers, Aaron --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled
the index service will only look at the change log of the sites/site coll in question (SPSite.GetChanges(...)) Thanks for the info Mick, I've always wondered how an incremental sharepoint site crawl works in V3. But what happens with a BDC incremental crawl ? Can I set them to 5mins too? I was just about to set incremental crawls to 5 mins on a BDC content source as a test, but then realised it obviously can't use SPSite.GetChanges to get the delta, so I googled bdc incremental crawl and found the following - http://geekswithblogs.net/Tariq/archive/2007/05/23/112680.aspx You would need some column on your table/view/or Stored-Proc to indicate the last modified time of that entity instance also this property needs to be called __BDCLastModifiedTimestamp and should be of type string So if your lob application doesn't store the last modified time for each individual row, incremental crawls won't work for a BDC content source Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Badran Sent: Thursday, 10 January 2008 1:04 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled Hi Roger - (sorry for coming in late) Are your sites v2 or v3? If they are v3 the index service will only look at the change log of the sites/site coll in question (SPSite.GetChanges(...)) so only the changes are indexed for that last schedule interval. I generally use every 5 mins for the crawl interval (incremental) on large sites with no worries (even if the V3 sites are on other boxes/farms) A good place to get a handle on all this is the Enterprise Search Resource Kit - bunch of goodies on there from the prod team. 15 min intervals is what we used to do for V2 sites. Mick Badran (MVP - BizTalk) | mb: +61 404842833 | im:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breeze Training | Training + Integration Specialist | Microsoft Readiness Instructor blogs:http://blogs.breezetraining.com.au/mickb From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Noble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 4:43 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled Ok, that sounds like a good place to start. Thanks for your help! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hodges, Kristen Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 4:11 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled - Found word(s) list error in the Text body Yeah that's correct. Recommendations we were given from Microsoft was 15 minute intervals - and we have a large ContentDb + same server for search and hosting. I have to admit though we don't do 15 minutes because we didn't have any need. That said, MOM alerts have been configured if CPU usage exceeds 80% - it never happens even when search is running. That's on a 64-bit box with 4 CPUs and 4Gb memory. You could prove the performance baseline if you create a dummy copy and run 5 minute incrementals on that? See what PerfMon shows. Then you'll know for sure. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Noble Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 4:32 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of how an incremental crawl works is to crawl the site in full an do a hash compare on each item to look for changes. So the concern is the load on the servers hosting the sites and the time it would take to do the crawl (depending on the amount and size of the documents). (but I agree that it doesn't make a whole load of sense) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hodges, Kristen Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 3:56 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled - Found word(s) list error in the Text body That doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense... If the search server is on a separate server there are no performance implications??? You're only talking about an incremental crawl right? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Noble Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 4:23 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] programmatically add items to be crawled Hi All, I have a question regarding search. I'm trying to see if it's at all possible to programmatically add items into the search index. I have a situation where the client wants documents to be searchable almost immediately after they have added them. I've suggested that the only solution is to schedule an incremental crawl every 5min or so, but they are not happy with that solution. Mainly due to performance concerns (they are running a separate search server). Any help / comments are appreciated.
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Moving pages programmatically within a web - sub web whilst maintaining versioning
I find it hard to believe that they would not allow developers to write code
for automating the publishing process
There is no Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.PublishingPage.Move(destination)
method.
(http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.publishing.publishingpage_members.aspx
) there should be and it should do exactly what the manage content and
structure tool's MOVE operation does, because moving a publishing page seems
like a core/standard publishing task that should be provided in an API.
Although, there seems to be a
Microsoft.SharePoint.SPListItem.CopyTo(destination) method
(http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.splistitem.copyto.aspx),
and it might work for a publishing page, here's a blog post where someone uses
it for moving publishing pages,
http://sharepointbergen.blogspot.com/2007/06/splistitem-and-copyto-method.html
not sure if this works well (haven't tried this myself) or if there are any
metadata issues or problems with lost version history using SPListItem.CopyTo()
Sezai Kömür
Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist -
http://www.moss2007.com.au/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Lynch
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 4:03 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Moving pages programmatically within a web - sub web
whilst maintaining versioning
WOOT! It's WSS friendly...
WSS Site + custom master pages + custom web parts + custom CSS = Happiness and
Joy.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 5:52 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Moving pages programmatically within a web - sub web
whilst maintaining versioning
You may be right Matt, the internal classes seem to eventually end up using
SPExport so even though there are many layers of internal classes, if you
follow the trail through to the end of the implementation using reflector you
may be able to work out how to do it.
I found this which may help :
Move a wiki page with code
http://www.dotnet-friends.com/Forum/ThreadMessages.aspx?Viewed=0ForumID=29TopicID=105ThreadNew=0
The guy developed a simple GUI with two textboxes, enter the source and
destination and then click a button to run SPExport
Sezai Kömür
Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist -
http://www.moss2007.com.au/
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Lynch
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 3:42 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Moving pages programmatically within a web - sub web
whilst maintaining versioning
Are you sure there is no Façade for accessing the internal classes? Normally
when MS or another company release private/internal classes, they also expose a
API which allows you to work with the classes indirectly.
2c: I'm more of a WSS fan and I have my own publishing engine, so I'm can't be
counted as a authority on this, but MS normally follow convention (be it good
or bad). Sharepoint is a flagship product and I find it hard to believe that
they would not allow developers to write code for automating the publishing
process.
Cheers,
Matt
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR
Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2007 5:21 PM
To: listserver@ozMOSS.com
Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Moving pages programmatically within a web - sub web
whilst maintaining versioning
The Manage Content and Structure tool in Publishing Sites has a move command,
and it seems to move an Page across to a new SPWeb and preserves version
history of the page and meta data.
Microsoft.SharePoint.Publishing.Internal.WebControls.MoveItems is an internal
class that is used by the manage content and structure tool to move pages
between spwebs
Loading this class into reflector, it seems that the code first copies across
the item to the destination first, then checks if the copy was successful, it
then deletes the source item.
How is the copy done?
DeploymentWrapper wrapper = new DeploymentWrapper(base.Site);
wrapper.PrimeExportProgressUpdated += new
DeploymentWrapper.ExportProgressUpdatedCallBackHandler(this.deploymentWrapper_PrimeExportProgressUpdated);
wrapper.PrimeCallBack += new
DeploymentWrapper.ImportCallBackEventHandler(this.deploymentWrapper_PrimeCallBack);
wrapper.PrimeImportError += new
DeploymentWrapper.ImportErrorCallBackHandler(this.deploymentWrapper_PrimeImportError);
objectSerializer = ObjectSerializer.GetObjectSerializer(base.Site,
this.destinationid);
string str = Convert.ToString(this.sourceSmtObjectIds.Length,
CultureInfo.InvariantCulture);
base.StatusDescription =
Resources.GetFormattedString(SmtMoveWrapperStart, new object[] { str });
base.UpdateStatus();
wrapper.MoveItems(this.sourceSmtObjectIds, this.destSmtObjectId
RE: [OzMOSS] Event management modules for MOSS?
You can try out the Event Planning application template here - http://www.wssdemo.com/application/event/default.aspx I'm not sure if the Event Planning Application Template is designed to run anonymously over the web to allow people to register as users. It might only work in a collaboration type scenario internal to an organisation. There don't seem to be any sign-up or register options in the template. I think this is the very same reason why the SharePoint Community Kit was developed, none of the out-of-the-box SharePoint templates provide nice Anonymous user functionality. It will be a website (ie public facing) and needs to handle people registering as a user on the site, and then registering for events. The http://www.mytalk.com.au website is a great example for an Australian public anonymous MOSS 2007 website where an anonymous user can register as a user online (http://www.mytalk.com.au/pages/member.aspx). As far as I know all the anonymous registration functionality was custom built. If you don't need to provide the handle people registering as a user on the site functionality then your job will be a lot simpler. Of course if you are ready for a ton of custom development you can of course build pretty much anything you want on SharePoint ! Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2007 2:11 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] Event management modules for MOSS? Hi Craig, The following might help. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=cb44f5d2-19bf-48b1-9154-cc5d66513195displaylang=en it is part of the fantastic 40 templates hth. Aaron From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 November 2007 3:37 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Event management modules for MOSS? Hi folks, I was wondering if anyone had come across or could recommend an Event Management product that slots into MOSS. We have a client who needs to manage events (Eg training courses, networking events, etc), take registrations, report on how many have registered etc. It will be a website (ie public facing) and needs to handle people registering as a user on the site, and then registering for events. Ideally it will be flexible enough to allow the client to add unlimited number of new fields to the events (Eg for location, dietary requirements, special instructions, etc). Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, Craig --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: HTTP 403 Access problems
We have also found recently that using Integrated Window Authentication over the web can also cause strange connection issues and problems depending on where you are connecting to a site from. On a few occasions now we have setup external domains for sites and tested them, with everything functioning nicely. BUT then we go on-site for a Sharepoint demo, and try to access our SharePoint sites from other internal Corporate networks, then BAM we either get connection issues or other errors occurring when logged in, seems anonymous access functions nicely regardless, but when logged in strange things start to occur. It seems switching the web application to use Basic Authentication fixes these connection issues and the site seems more robust and can be used from more external networks. Although Basic Auth sends login and password in clear text So it should be avoided, or apply a Certificate over your site to secure it further. It's nice that you can now use Forms Authentication and custom authentication stores with MOSS !!! It's a pitty that it's tough to setup and is the non-default authentication/security configuration, good luck getting external SharePoint Hosting which will allow you to setup and use Custom Forms Authentication for your site though, you need to mess around in central admin to get it going, so its only an option if you do all the Server hosting and configuration yourself. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - BEng, BSc - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - http://www.moss2007.com.au/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Badran Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:30 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: HTTP 403 Access problems Hi Jeremy - the SLK won't have an effect on your site. It looks like you're getting a 403 as a result of something on one of your pages - a webpart? or page field control. (or a web.config file error) Can you go to http://server and see if you get redirected to http://server/pages/default.aspx Also check the Sharepoint logs under - \12\logs (there is a 'log file' viewer under central admin to make life easier for you) Check (if you can) the IIS logs Create another site collection and see if you have the same erorr - basic team site (eliminates any non-std webparts) From first impressions it doesn't look like an auth/routing/security issue at all. (all your other sites work no probs.) Let me know how you go Mick Badran (MVP - BizTalk) | mb: +61 404842833 | im:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breeze Training | Training + Integration Specialist | Microsoft Readiness Instructor blogs:http://blogs.breezetraining.com.au/mickb From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Thake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 10:03 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: HTTP 403 Access problems I actually get this when I try and hit my sharepoint hosted site via my corporate proxy. They've not been too helpful on fixing this because I have already proved it works fine via my ADSL home connection. Although it times out a lot when submitting new items. Currently looking to rehost to a more SharePoint friendly hoster...any suggestions? Sorry I know off topic... Thanks Jeremy Thake On Nov 22, 2007 6:55 AM, Aaron Saikovski [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Peter, I have seen this before and the way i got around it was to create a new application pool in IIS and to ensure that the service accounts I am using in central admin,SSP , site collections are correct. I had to create a new account and re-assign the services to use the newly created account and the problem went away. It worked for me and it might solve your problem. Good luck. Regards, Aaron Saikovski Readify - Senior Consultant M: +61 410 480 971 C: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Peter Milliner Sent: Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:40 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.commailto:listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] HTTP 403 Access problems Hello All, Require some assistance with following problem - I have started getting HTTP 403 message when trying to access main portal site. I can access central admin, SSP and another top level site I have created. The only thing I can think of that could have changed configuration is that I installed SharePoint Learning Kit and Microsoft SharePoint training The message I am getting in event log is as follows: Event Type:Information Event Source:ASP.NEThttp://ASP.NET 2.0.50727.0 Event Category:Web Event Event ID: 1314 Date: 22/11/2007 Time: 8:26:34 AM User: N/A Computer: BSP1 Description: Event code: 4011 Event message: An unhandled access exception has occurred.
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments
There is always the option of Build Your Own Tool for migration. This offers the best flexibility because you have full control over what is migrated and how its migrated. You will also understand the entire migration process intimately. The problem with some tools on the market is flexibility, if a specific thing is not migrating across as you like you can't alter the migration code or migration process at all. An example is the MCMS to MOSS migration tool built into Central Admin (which I wrote the migration white paper on) it works alright for simple websites, but for larger complex mcms sites it isn't flexible enough so people have been developing their own migration tools for the job. There is of course the phenomenal amount of work (TIME) required to build your own tool, but if your organization has plans for many future migration projects it may be the best option, better than using a third-party tool. Here's an MVP opinion on it, a reply I received when asking what people in the USA are doing regarding MCMS to MOSS migrations : Pretty common... people don't like the OOTB and Metalogix is pricy. One approach I like is to dump everything - HTML pages via something like PowerShell and then add them to document libraries, leveraging custom doc converters to get them into the site. Not much of a market for this though because every MCMS instance is so damn custom J Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 12:32 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments ah yes metalogix..the html - MCMS product rocked! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Badran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 2:23 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments Ishai - metalogix did a great (any HTML) to MCMS/Sharepoint 'converter' also. Great product! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 2:10 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments It is just for content. I saw a demo here in Vegas yesterday and it was very impressive. But I understand there is also a company\product called metalogic who should be very good. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Thursday, 8 November 2007 2:48 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments Thanks Ishai. Does tzunami move everything? Site defs, features, dataview webparts etc? Ideally it moves only the deltas from dev, to staging then onto prod. Does it provide any rollback? Cheers, Aaron From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 7:30 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments It is aweful for moving between environments, not to mention it is heavy and requires installing a mysql database+apache web server to run. I would not recommend it. Besides, it just moves content - nothing else. If you are looking for something to move content, look at tzunami. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Wednesday, 7 November 2007 1:38 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments I found this tool: http://www.avepoint.com/products/sharepoint-content-management I haven't tried it but it might solve some of the problems. I might have to come up with my own tool and post it up on codeplex J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adriaan Grobler Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 7:26 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments I totally agree. We have a lot of problems with content deployment... Things got worse after the DST change. MOSS is still full of bugs, have a look at the list of hot fixes released. http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/adir_ron/archive/2007/07/11/Huge-list-of-MOSS_2F00_Office-2007-KB_1920_s-and-Hotfixes.aspx Adriaan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 7:41 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments It's great you ask Aaron, because my opinion is that the whole deploying between environments story in MOSS is overly complicated and has severe problems, see this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9QlojtrWs . This was all a lot easier to do with MCMS ! You could export content from Site Manager to an SDO file, and easily setup a new MCMS web application, and move the SDO content to the new environment
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments
Not so good for Microsoft Licensing J True, no need for an Internet CAL, you would only need licenses for content authors internal to the organization. I actually remember being asked about this from a few people at SPC APAC, they mentioned how their MCMS websites run via site staging and they are interested in running MOSS sites that way, their primary reasoning behind it was to save on licensing. I told them that would be 'non-standard' and they should instead utilise MOSS content deployment. This starts to get into grey areas though, murky waters, but it is technically possible, good luck getting Microsoft to support you through this! Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hodgson, John Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 2:12 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments Yes I remember that tool too Mick; it was called Site Stager I think, customers loved it. They could run the generated HTML on LINUX if they wanted. Not so good for Microsoft Licensing J John Hodgson Lead Solution Consultant HP Consulting Integration 0411 242 880 mobile | [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hp.comhttp://www.hp.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Badran Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 3:57 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments Sezai, You could then even argue - why sharepoint at this stage? Why not build a custom tool that converted your 'staging' MOSS WCM site(s) into a bunch of HTML and publish that to the web. This is the approach we took when I was working on a MS internal MCMS system. Publishing to 'microsoft.com' is a pretty locked down process (in terms of what you can/can't run) Also things like the 'Site Deployment Tool' in MCMS v1.x/2.x did exactly this - you could even embed script in pages that ran during the 'deployment' process. It produced *.htm pages that you could drop onto a CD to give to clients etc. Needless to say here in WSS 3.0/MOSS deployment is not a trivial task.. let's try and crack that rubiks cube :) Mick Badran (MVP - BizTalk) | mb: +61 404842833 | im:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Breeze Training | Training + Integration Specialist | Microsoft Readiness Instructor blogs:http://blogs.breezetraining.com.au/mickb From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sezai KOMUR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 3:39 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments There is always the option of Build Your Own Tool for migration. This offers the best flexibility because you have full control over what is migrated and how its migrated. You will also understand the entire migration process intimately. The problem with some tools on the market is flexibility, if a specific thing is not migrating across as you like you can't alter the migration code or migration process at all. An example is the MCMS to MOSS migration tool built into Central Admin (which I wrote the migration white paper on) it works alright for simple websites, but for larger complex mcms sites it isn't flexible enough so people have been developing their own migration tools for the job. There is of course the phenomenal amount of work (TIME) required to build your own tool, but if your organization has plans for many future migration projects it may be the best option, better than using a third-party tool. Here's an MVP opinion on it, a reply I received when asking what people in the USA are doing regarding MCMS to MOSS migrations : Pretty common... people don't like the OOTB and Metalogix is pricy. One approach I like is to dump everything - HTML pages via something like PowerShell and then add them to document libraries, leveraging custom doc converters to get them into the site. Not much of a market for this though because every MCMS instance is so damn custom J Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 12:32 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments ah yes metalogix..the html - MCMS product rocked! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Badran [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 2:23 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments Ishai - metalogix did a great (any HTML) to MCMS/Sharepoint 'converter' also. Great product! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ishai Sagi Sent: Friday, 9 November 2007 2:10 PM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: RE: [OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments It is just for content. I saw a demo here in Vegas yesterday
[OzMOSS] RE: Deploying between environments
It's great you ask Aaron, because my opinion is that the whole deploying between environments story in MOSS is overly complicated and has severe problems, see this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P9QlojtrWs . This was all a lot easier to do with MCMS ! You could export content from Site Manager to an SDO file, and easily setup a new MCMS web application, and move the SDO content to the new environment. provision/manage releases between environments? Use a Solution to deploy a custom site definition and its features to the new server, but when you create a new site collection on the new server, this simply creates a new empty shell of a site with none of your content, so you then need to do a Site Collection Backup / Restore over it to get your latest content in. If your site has un-published items then they won't make it across to the new server. Andrew Connell just released an update to his custom STSADM commands, http://andrewconnell.com/blog/archive/2007/10/29/My-MOSS-WCM-STSADM-custom-commands-have-been-updated.aspx one of the commands is PublishAllItems, you need to run this over your site before backup otherwise items not checked-in will mysteriously disappear. customised site with custom features and custom site defs Deploy your custom site definition and features using a SharePoint Solution. How do you move site content between these environments as well? Site Collection Backup and Restore, it's not fool proof and I don't trust it most of the time, but it does the job. I try to minimize this process as much as possible because I find files and items seem to go randomly missing from the site, you then have a team of content authors complaining about their lost images and screwed up content. Any tools etc you use ? Any tips etc? We developed a nice WinForms tool(Object Model Code) in-house with a simple Wizard interface. You specify an existing Web Application, the tool deletes the top level site collection in the web app, it then retracts the previous solution, removes/uninstalls Features, redeploys the new Solution, including Custom Site Definition Files and All Features, then it creates a fresh new Site Collection on the Web App for you. This roles-up half-a-dozen steps into one single installer application that is quick and easy to run. A Batch file(STSADM Commands) works just as nicely, it's worth having something like this to run to automate the whole process and help cut-down the number of steps and time taken to run through it all. That's it... Not a great story, very messy, but that's what we all have to work with I guess, it would be great to hear other opinions and stories on this, I want to learn more to stream-line our deployment processes here. Just like Aaron, I too would like to learn how others managed all of this in their environment(s). So Everyone Please Share! Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Saikovski Sent: Monday, 5 November 2007 3:32 PM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: [OzMOSS] Deploying between environments Dear All, I have a question more out of curiosity than anything else. How do you (as in you in your're organisation) provision/manage releases between environments? Ie dev - stage - prod Also if you have a customised site with custom features and custom site defs manage the deployment between environments? How do you move site content between these environments as well? Any tools etc you use ? Any tips etc? I wanted to get an idea on how others managed this in their environment(s). I have been getting asked this by many people of late and wanted to see how others tackled this problem. Cheers Aaron --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] How to change font size on MOSS Intenet Site on the fly
The MOSS WCM site we launched at Vivid last week has font switching and also print mode. Check the controls in the top right hand corner on this page - http://www.amanaliving.com.au/INFORMATION_AND_SERVICE_CENTRE/Pages/index.aspx Print Mode - http://www.amanaliving.com.au/INFORMATION_AND_SERVICE_CENTRE/Pages/index.aspx?Print=true Font switching is implemented with JavaScript, clicking the text re-size images simply changes the font size of specific HTML elements by checking the existing font size and setting to a different font size accordingly . A whole set of if else statements to handle changing the font size is used. if(element.style.fontSize == medium) fontSize = large; There are many other examples of JavaScript on the internet which will provide you font switching functionality, they should all work in MOSS. Print Mode works with a query string parameter, if Print=true an alternate Master Page is loaded, the Master Page has different CSS and layout. Providing Print Mode was tough initially, it was implemented by extending the PublishingLayoutPage class for all Page Layouts in the site - http://blogs.msdn.com/jannemattila/archive/2007/04/14/adding-functionalities-to-pages-by-inheriting-publishingpagelayout.aspx http://www.sharepointblogs.com/sezai/archive/2007/08/30/extend-the-publishinglayoutpage-class-create-your-own-to-run-code-in-the-page.aspx So on loading the page, check for the query string parameter and if present, load an alternate Print.Master instead of the regular site Master page. You can then put different CSS in your print master and even completely change the layout to provide a nice clean print mode. So You can use either method to provide font switching, either with pure JavaScript, OR a custom PublishingLayoutPage with query string parameters. I think JavaScript is nicer because of no post-back. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of srk Jag Sent: Friday, 2 November 2007 8:45 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: [OzMOSS] How to change font size on MOSS Intenet Site on the fly Hi Folks, I want to change the font size (increase or decrease) on my SharePoint 2007 Internet Site, when the user click on the increase font or decrease font buttons. This is a critical requirement to meet the site accessiblity specifications. I came across a Sharepoint site ( http://www.plymouthhospitals.nhs.uk/Pages/Home.aspx) which has this functionality. All they did was to change the CSS file (with new font size) for the site when a user clicks on the buttons. They achieved this by passing the CssChangerWebPartTextSize=/style%20library/medium.csshttp://CssChangerWebPartTextSize=/style%20library/medium.css to the page. this changes the CSS file used. Ok now my questions are; 1. how to change the CSS file for a site on the fly? 2. do you know of any other way to achieve this functionality (changing the font size)? Any pointers will be of great help. Thanks in advance. -- Jag Sri Raja Kakarlapudi SharePoint Solution Specialist, Strategic Data Management, Adelaide, South Australia Blog: http://itfootprint.wordpress.com LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/sriraja Mobile: (W) 0439995660 (P) 0433564760 --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
[OzMOSS] RE: MOSS Bible on PDF
David, You may actually be referring to a book http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-047000861X.html US $44.99 There are SharePoint Bible PDFs online, but you need to visit a Torrent site to get a torrent for it and then download the PDF illegally, which maybe explains why it isn't an easy download ;o) Your best (legal) option is to purchase the hard copy and support the authors. One of my colleagues here purchased this book, I am flicking through it at the moment. It's great and contains a ton of detail, not only does it provide a high-level conceptual overview, it also has detailed step-by-step instructions on HOW to do things, it's a massive book and a good read, I recommend it to anyone. Regards, Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Prior, David Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2007 8:35 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] MOSS Bible on PDF Hi all, Rumour has it that there is a nice big SharePoint Bible PDF document out there for download from Microsoft, problem is I can't find it. Has anyone heard of this document and can point me in the right direction? Cheers, David - This communication may contain confidential information and/or copyright material of KAZ Group Pty Ltd ABN 25 002 124 405 and its related bodies corporate. It may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not keep, forward, copy, use, save or rely on this communication and any such action is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this e-mail to notify the sender of its incorrect delivery, and then delete both it and your reply. This communication may contain confidential information and/or copyright material of KAZ Group Pty Ltd ABN 25 002 124 405 and its related bodies corporate. It may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not keep, forward, copy, use, save or rely on this communication and any such action is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this e-mail to notify the sender of its incorrect delivery, and then delete both it and your reply. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
RE: [OzMOSS] RE: MOSS Bible on PDF
Sundeep, I am disappointed you did not read my whole message correctly. Did you read this following line I wrote? Your best (legal) option is to purchase the hard copy and support the authors. Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sundeep R Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2007 10:00 AM To: listserver@ozmoss.com Subject: Re: [OzMOSS] RE: MOSS Bible on PDF I am very disappointed, Sezai. I think it is very irresponsible recommending someone to download sharepoints pdfs from bit torrent sites. It's not like downloading last weeks episode of Dancing with the Stars. Your job is in sharepoint and these guys work very hard to come up with these resources which allow you to do your job and earn a living. The very least you could do is pay them to encourage them to keep up the good work. Also you can claim it off tax or as a work expense, so you don't really have an excuse. On 11/1/07, Sezai KOMUR [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, You may actually be referring to a book http://www.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-047000861X.html US $44.99 There are SharePoint Bible PDFs online, but you need to visit a Torrent site to get a torrent for it and then download the PDF illegally, which maybe explains why it isn't an easy download ;o) Your best (legal) option is to purchase the hard copy and support the authors. One of my colleagues here purchased this book, I am flicking through it at the moment. It's great and contains a ton of detail, not only does it provide a high-level conceptual overview, it also has detailed step-by-step instructions on HOW to do things, it's a massive book and a good read, I recommend it to anyone. Regards, Sezai Kömür Senior Developer - Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Prior, David Sent: Thursday, 1 November 2007 8:35 AM To: listserver@ozMOSS.commailto:listserver@ozMOSS.com Subject: [OzMOSS] MOSS Bible on PDF Hi all, Rumour has it that there is a nice big SharePoint Bible PDF document out there for download from Microsoft, problem is I can't find it. Has anyone heard of this document and can point me in the right direction? Cheers, David - This communication may contain confidential information and/or copyright material of KAZ Group Pty Ltd ABN 25 002 124 405 and its related bodies corporate. It may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not keep, forward, copy, use, save or rely on this communication and any such action is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this e-mail to notify the sender of its incorrect delivery, and then delete both it and your reply. This communication may contain confidential information and/or copyright material of KAZ Group Pty Ltd ABN 25 002 124 405 and its related bodies corporate. It may also be the subject of legal professional privilege. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not keep, forward, copy, use, save or rely on this communication and any such action is unauthorised and prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please reply to this e-mail to notify the sender of its incorrect delivery, and then delete both it and your reply. --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.comhttp://mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.nethttp://www.readify.net -- Sundeep --- OzMOSS.com - to unsubscribe from this list, send a message back to the list with 'unsubscribe' as the subject. Powered by mailenable.com - List managed by www.readify.net
