Re: Ubuntu at ICT Africa 2009
On 10/21/09, David Overcash funnylookin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to load the pages - but obviously my link to Africa isn't so great... :-) Once I get them loaded I will see if I can mirror the posts for you. Cheers, David Hi David, Thanks, that would be great! Yes, the links to Africa can be a little shaky at times. I hope everyone does manage to load them eventually though. -- Regards, Neil Coetzer Team Contact Ubuntu Zimbabwe LoCo Team --- http://www.ubuntu.org.zw http://zimbabwe.ubuntuforums.org http://www.ubuntu-zw.org -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Ubuntu at ICT Africa 2009
Neil, The site is fabulous. It took awhile but I managed to review the photos. Looks like a great group and you certainly put Ubuntu's best foot forward. The links might be slow but they were worth the wait!! John On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 08:27 +0200, Neil Coetzer wrote: Hi David, Thanks, that would be great! Yes, the links to Africa can be a little shaky at times. I hope everyone does manage to load them eventually though. -- Regards, Neil Coetzer Team Contact Ubuntu Zimbabwe LoCo Team --- http://www.ubuntu.org.zw http://zimbabwe.ubuntuforums.org http://www.ubuntu-zw.org -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: request for release notes translations
Hello, instead of emailing me links to your translations please post a link to your translation on this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes/Translations This will make it easier for me to keep track of what is done. Thanks! Format is [[link-to-translation|LANG]] completed date by person On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Steve Langasek steve.langa...@canonical.com wrote: Hi folks, We're at that time of the release cycle again where the release notes are coming together, and your help is needed to translate them. The Ubuntu 9.10 release candidate is coming tomorrow, so we want to make sure our early adopters get useful information when clicking that link from within the live CD installer. Draft release notes for Ubuntu 9.10 are available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes. While these are not yet final, I expect that all the issues documented there will be included in the final release notes. And as for past releases, please use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/ReleaseNotes/langcode for your translations, and coordinate with Matthew Nuzum matthew.nuzum at canonical.com (cc:ed), when you are ready to have these translations linked from the Ubuntu website. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com vor...@debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUBSt8abVaNMPMhshM9AQhzBQ//c1JlQgr+H5OTa1NGpHxgr6+tOfaqUUmG Yyxl4vg0ufStNHcF2nLOg/WE9pNlHJzLGIgUqXiNUbcEtrku4N6k6IsrFbyfLVMt Ic8bew2IxRo5nwMV+Wo2SqSE01qtPtpAfhJJtgra7YjJLjIIuIiNpfNtRYljk/QE R636RVLBRhH6Yk1PnuRnxglLMpTryfKnsEDVwHfCTMd8G9a5Q82rrVZiUzNLHpP/ t54qvubzRLEY+MzZi/qZBhIEyT807RYadPetLsXuQKrpEVt3lxWgINOPzvd+i5Ke O0+fAAmX3vaz3wojN/GpHGOrkof2/EzLWau0MBGjUTTykC6Pl2PiyUohSLYQcHFN 6dsfM/NzUFEshfMbwHCQoawxS0MydMl8IYtcjKWwAgXsHwZ30rCGL9B53U+C+tE9 lBHDzsgiJj+ikH6HdfsT7jh7uWp9dXdi8xiEbp9TJM4jYzOE69grVgaeac8akTwJ AuzwEcPzR720mMnNdVN+xmlGYRiD9zykVg0Qc/FvOzMB6HL7p8ZmoHF5hJueqCtA 2daV1n+YgMWU+iBcV122Akp5f/Ri38ESjOmCyA2fXPl3BrRxlxXq7Qda3Ra9vPjY pTrhZ0Vfoapaf0ZJ0FcboKWA7XzIMdK5I2ogYWnGlnyp8qaIctfBr2ukO8breXVd 9EllrlWAwIQ= =uSrF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: ShipIt Changes
Op donderdag 22-10-2009 om 11:01 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Neil Coetzer: 1. For those without broadband, which is most people Zimbabwe, upgrading via the net isn't even *almost* an option. Even with local broadband our speeds leave a lot to be desired, and I have had at least one attempted upgrade crash completely because of lost connections in the middle of the upgrade. It just isn't an option for most people here. 2. As a result of poor connectivity options in Zimbabwe, as per my recent report, the Loco Team has made efforts to provide other avenues, such as the Freedom Toaster and a local repository where downloads can be done without using expensive international bandwidth. However, there is currently one Freedom Toaster in the entire country, and broadband is only available to a minority of the people within only a few cities. The only way of reaching outlying areas is with CDs. I am aware that most users in outlying areas have been able to make requests on shipit in the past (using dialup connections for Internet access), and this has been their main avenue for getting discs. Good points. Maybe Canonical should build some country-specific logic in Shipit? 3. On the understanding that CDs would still be available to Loco Teams, I visited shipit to make a request (which is how I have always done it in the past, as Team Contact) only to discover that I was automatically blocked based on my previous orders, so I couldn't even explain myself in making a request. 4. I then re-checked the page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds and confirmed that CD's are only available to approved Loco Teams, And even for approved LoCoTeams, it's only about the one box of CDs that they get shipped with priority. This box also includes 75 Kubuntu 75 Server discs that are pretty useless for many LoCoTeams; you can't give them to new users (all the documentation books are written for Ubuntu), and experienced users have downloaded them already, so they are only asked by the latter people as collector's items... which we are not. As can be seen, once again, from my recent report on Ubuntu at ICT Africa 2009, our Loco Team has certainly not been idle and we have put huge effort into marketing. We have not applied for approval yet because we haven't met prerequisites like having an IRC channel (because it's just not practical in our area due the lack of connectivity for most people). Unless this IRC requirement (as stated on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved) can be waivered, but even then it doesn't help teams who are just trying to get off the ground who may still need CDs. loco-council hat I assure you we would waiver the IRC requirement if you explain why IRC is useless for you. /loco-council hat What we really do look at the most is sustained activity ( 1 year preferably), a number of different/original activities, regular meetings communication, etc. 5. You will possibly recall a recent mail I sent on this list inquiring how members should go about recording what they do, and how they can get recognition for their efforts if they are not developers. We have established our Team on launchpad, but it's impossible for people to earn karma if they're not developers. There are no real developers in our Loco, and many of the Loco members don't have internet access other than via Internet cafes, so maintaining an online record of their achievements and efforts is just not practical for a lot of them. I can't even find the time to update my own wiki pages, even with Internet access at work (no access at home). These are just some of the reasons why becoming members is kind of difficult for some people, no matter how much work they're doing in their local communities. Using myself as an example: I'm the founding member of a 2-year old Loco, have been team contact for 2 years, have created ties with local government and the Computer Society of Zimbabwe, pushed a local ISP to host our repository and web site for free (which took a full year of pushing), have taken part in the organisation of release parties and presentations, have actively gone out looking for members (and a team of 3 has grown to over 15), have provided limited support via the mailing list and forum, have organised monthly face-to-face meetings and was voted in as Team Leader two months ago.. but I still don't know if I will qualify for membership, because as soon as I see that my launchpad account is one of the things that will be looked at (as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership), I am painfully aware that my launchpad account looks rather pathetic compared to most people out there who are developers so I suddenly find myself losing confidence and haven't even bothered trying to become a member as a result. You don't need to have any Launchpad-activity to become a Member (although it will be looked at if you pretend to be a translator or a developer, of
Re: Shipping Karmic CDs for LoCo teams
El jue, 22-10-2009 a las 19:00 -0400, Martin Owens escribió: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 15:23 -0500, John Abbott wrote: Dolev, I'm curious about your program for distribution among the poor. How do these poor have access to computers? If each is expecting a CD then each must have a computer to install it on. I'm trying to get my head around this idea because I live on the border between Texas and Mexico and we are surround by genuinely poor people who could really use computer access for a multitude of reasons. But none are equipped with computers and we have been directing them to the Library in Mission TX where there are numerous Linux based computers available. Here in Boston we refirb computers using a PXE server, saves time and not many CDs required. Martin, It's very important do not loose the real objective of Ubuntu, is to be an alternative as an operative system. We must spent more time teaching how to use the Ubuntu system. The effort used delivering the CD's is a waste of time if nobody teaches how to install, how to resolve the basic configuration problems or where obtain more software for the system. A good example of event where the people learn to use Linux distros (specially Ubuntu ;) ) is Flisol in Latin America. I invite you to tell us more of your program, sometimes we could give you a hand how with less CD's obtain more results. As architect Mies Van Der Rohe said: Less is More. -- Mauricio Peñaloza S. Mob: +56 9 9676 3414 Ubuntu user #22420 Linux user #450898 -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Shipping Karmic CDs for LoCo teams
Hey Mauricio, On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 23:48 -0300, Mauricio Peñaloza S. wrote: It's very important do not loose the real objective of Ubuntu, is to be an alternative as an operative system. We must spent more time teaching how to use the Ubuntu system. The effort used delivering the CD's is a waste of time if nobody teaches how to install, how to resolve the basic configuration problems or where obtain more software for the system. I'm a little confused, are you asking about the course that we teach there for the desktop to everyone who gets a computer? Because it sounded like you might have been complaining that we weren't. I invite you to tell us more of your program, sometimes we could give you a hand how with less CD's obtain more results. It's basically a weekly installation, desktop education and basic support event. 2 hours in the evening. I think one of the guys at Grassroots called it a clinic, good name. Martin, -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
