12.04 CD artwork
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The 12.04 CD artwork is now available on the wiki for anyone wanting to print their own. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#A12.04_artwork Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkZyVAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4woPIIAIp1d5mBfVGulCR/KV39IGml 6aW/9ngaW5bq3iyHTbNmV64irB1UCV8MXrrchgmeySF8XVSOWMZKB+zIHKGsZBUv wRkHRlora+EcUfPF2yqKiYPNn/PKQ7EQOnzRO4IND0OXBNNo+VocPBZHdd4n9ZES xc16WyKUWk8bAYdU394XIGWC3cyB4uWnrZZZeCWdQxIA97lYqyoAVA8W1sgWuLb9 TNNSoQq4wHhWQYjCEh2RXT4EyI65uP39yDM2ttw9Jvj4ambym5e7vgYe42ockALe mq0nfWOKlXnIrPW2igQrOAI/PWVgz9k3uIdi2bU2X/nc32uRIosfCqU5I0lfZwg= =lKbb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: 12.04 CD artwork
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/04/12 21:20, Martin Owens wrote: These need to go onto spread ubuntu: http://spreadubuntu.org/en/get-materials/packaging Knock yourself out Cheers, - -- Alan Pope Engineering Manager Canonical - Product Strategy +44 (0) 7973 620 164 alan.p...@canonical.com http://ubuntu.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPkcntAAoJEMx6UFtfvV4wFf0IAI7jMEypsDzaEkigEl/+0nVR 4Ze23MLEtP3JxZu2UNkOcdYqQ66iUShCrfgoZ+B40gGkLn6+558+r0NocuiFJKYR izE0nx7OcqQ6Qa1uoXAJtOg26POfgod79a082OMk28LdLes+yocoekt2Kvc4SWUR hky4YDTABTkmeMKS16G33DTdiLMI+tVGSbF/7MjrCC4XMBRpXRfeENl2b03nzWx3 5yMR0oBKIHoSUqhJVC0VVIDXqa2IJCFQEuGFU4MEzraDY3OrhT2Ib3y7+OLum3ls iAbhrmJmwfmEBSTdhgzjs9r/gGf9DqSyN5Lwz8X91/SrxObGUpoTAtaKZ7ED2nM= =EWI2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: 3rd Party Polling Sites
On 7 October 2011 14:34, Chuck Frain chuckfr...@pobox.com wrote: This response is good to hear, but does not answer the question that was asked by the member. Where in the Ubuntu terms and conditions does it provide for non-visible email addresses to be supplied to a third party? As I understand it there is no explicit opt in or out during any part of the launchpad or membership process. Perhaps you or they may want to file a bug against launchpad itself to track this omission. https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug I'll take your word that the service was used in the past without complaint. However today there was a complaint from someone that should be addressed. How would the third party like it addressed? Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: REMINDER to order you Natty CDs
On 23 May 2011 17:07, Laura Czajkowski la...@lczajkowski.com wrote: Mail i...@ubuntu.shipit.com and check Of course Laura actually means:- i...@shipit.ubuntu.com . Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re:
On 1 November 2010 22:07, GARY MUDD garym...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.bvvq. Apologies for this spam. User removed from list. Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Moin Themes
On 16 August 2010 09:19, Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com wrote: wiki.ubuntu.com is slow, and having asked in #moin part of the problem is that we are running an old version that is no longer supported. I have been trying to offer to help to fix it, but I have been unable to find who is responsible for it. Doc team I think. Although the Canonical Sysadmins actually manage it. according to the folk in #moin the version we are using (1.6.3) is out of maintenance for the last 23 months and an upgrade to 1.9.3 or the packaged in lucid 1.9.2-2ubuntu3 would be a good thing too. The version we use has been tweaked a bit - at least in part to give us launchpad integration. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Fwd: LoCo Council meeting time change - reminder
This meeting is happening in approximately 2.5 hours in #ubuntu-meeting Cheers, Al. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com Date: 29 July 2010 22:32 Subject: LoCo Council meeting time change To: loco-council loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com, Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com We had a clash in #ubuntu-meeting with another meeting so we've moved the LoCo Council meeting by one hour. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda Tuesday 3rd August 2010, 19:00 UTC Click the link below to see the time in your region. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=3month=8year=2010hour=19min=0sec=0p1=0 Thanks, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
LoCo Council meeting time change
We had a clash in #ubuntu-meeting with another meeting so we've moved the LoCo Council meeting by one hour. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda Tuesday 3rd August 2010, 19:00 UTC Click the link below to see the time in your region. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=3month=8year=2010hour=19min=0sec=0p1=0 Thanks, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Monthly Reports
Hi Martin, On 27 July 2010 15:30, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: We fail at making things easy and instead insist upon the manual and monotonous. A re-instance of monthly reports do not make them more appealing, they make running a LoCo a chore rather than good fun. I completely agree that manual recurrent jobs are tedious. One solution the UK loco has used is to delegate. We have a recurring item on every meeting agenda which is used as a reminder to the team. No one single individual is responsible for creating the team report, but one person creates the initial blank page. Once done, anyone can add single lines outlining what the team has done. We don't spend vast amounts of time on it, just enough to convey what the team has done that month. Here's some samples:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/10/July https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/10/June https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/10/May This process should not be onerous, but it should allow everyone to benefit from learning about the great things other teams are doing. Cheers, Al. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: LoCo on Launchpad
Hi Neil! On 23 July 2010 16:29, Neil Coetzer n...@ubuntu.org.zw wrote: This is possibly not the right place to ask, so forgive me if this is the case. Looks like the right place to ask to me! Others might benefit from this discussion. I'm doing a review of LoCo Team members who have joined up on our Launchpad page, but haven't been active or visible since. The idea is to follow up individually with each member and find out if they need further information or assistance, and to generally try to lure them in as active members. What a great idea! In several cases, they have not provided a public e-mail address and I have used the contact facility on Launchpad to mail them. However, I've only sent a few messages and am being told that I have reached my quota and need to wait 23 hours before I can contact anyone else. Sending out a few messages a day isn't the greatest way of doing this, so I was wondering if there's any way around this for team administrators? As I understand it, if the team has no contact address listed at https://launchpad.net/~zimbabwe-team under Team details Email: I _believe_ that when you click 'Contact team' the mail you send goes to _everyone_ on the team. You might want to check that with some launchpad people in #launchpad or maybe someone else here knows. Second option (which is a bit nasty) would be to expire each person and then add them back into the team. When you do that you get a field in which you can put some text. You could put a little apology for the bounce, and some questions or an offer for them to get in touch with you. Last option would be to go and hunt them down via other means :) Look them up on the forums and use a bit of common sense to see if it's the same person. I note the team in question has about 30 people which doesn't seem too many to track down. Maybe someone else has a better suggestion? Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Summary of the Ubuntu LoCo Council meeting on 20th July 2010
Hi all,
Sorry for the delay getting these minutes out.
The LoCo council held a meeting on Tuesday where we had a bunch of
LoCo team {re}approvals to do. Representatives from the LoCo teams
kindly took time out to join us in the channel and tell us what their
team does. It was fantastic to see teams around the world getting on
with the job of supporting and advocating Ubuntu in their own region,
language and culture!
Unfortunately some teams didn't get re-approved, and for those the
LoCo Council has committed to help them get back on their feet and
build themselves back up with a view to going for approval again in
the future. We look forward to working with those teams! We also
deferred some work to be done via the LoCo Council mailing list rather
than wait until the next meeting.
Finally we decided to schedule the next meeting for 2 weeks time
rather than the usual 4 weeks, so we can get through some more of the
outstanding LoCo team {re}approvals.
Thanks,
Al.
Full log at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda/20100720
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is impressive stuff
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21:32 MootBot Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6
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dutch is looking good there..
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Re: Using the tag #locoteams when using twitter/identi.ca
On 23 June 2010 11:11, Jan Husar jan.hu...@skosi.org wrote: No it doesn't solve the first problem and that is the Freedom of my own Choice, otherwise if you want to choose for me, you are most likely from 1939 Nazi Germany, or 1968 - 1989, Communist occupation of Czechoslovakia. GODWIN! You lose! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Using the tag #locoteams when using twitter/identi.ca
On 23 June 2010 13:45, Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com wrote: Ralph, could you share how that's done ? I believe we can incorporate that in the LocoTeam Howto wiki docs. https://identi.ca/settings/twitter Follow the instructions to connect identi.ca to twitter. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Using the tag #locoteams when using twitter/identi.ca
On 22 June 2010 21:25, indigo...@rochester.rr.com wrote: Should we select a 'preferred' network -- identica vs. twitter? No. All networks should be used at the users own preference. Lets not turn this into a religious debate about free vs non-free microblogging platforms, but encourage the practice of using hashtags on all of them. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Ubuntu LoCo's should move to LibrePlanet
Danny, Your mail reads like someone wanting to hijack an entire community to kick start an FSF initiative. This is not the first time I have witnessed this happen. The FSF tried to hijack UK Linux User Groups recently and this was an abysmal failure as the members of those teams saw through the transparent hijacking attempt very quickly. On 8 June 2010 22:06, Danny Piccirillo danny.picciri...@ubuntu.com wrote: The reason that Ubuntu's local community teams should move to LibrePlanet is because having one of the worlds strongest FLOSS advocacy networks centered around one piece of software and sponsored by one company is a disservice to the greater free software community. Back that claim up with evidence. I'm certain that the existence of Ubuntu _and_ its community of advocates as done more for FLOSS over the last 5 years than any other single distro. Helped in part by FLOSS on other platforms such as Firefox and OpenOffice, Ubuntu has been instrumental in bringing FLOSS to the world at large. I have been heavily involved in Ubuntu advocacy for years, but for a while now, i've been considering the prospect of local teams operating independent of Canonical. What makes you think teams don't already operate independent of Canonical? I don't know of many LoCo teams that have Canonical employees as their leaders (although I know of at least one, but he was recruited after becoming team lead). Canonical is very much 'hands off' with LoCo teams. LoCo teams are in no way tied to Canonical. They can schedule events, advocate Ubuntu (and FLOSS in general) and do all the other things communities do with little or no effort from Canonical. It's probably one of the single reasons Ubuntu has become insanely popular, the community of people who are willing to give their time to promote it. This would not be a move to abandon Ubuntu, but simply to open up more possibilities and reach our full potential. You're talking from your own perspective here and contradicting yourself. Many other teams already liaise with FLOSS groups, LUGs and other organisations as part of their advocacy. This is indeed encouraged within LoCos. If it's not encouraged in your LoCo then perhaps it should be. Most people in LoCos are not loyal to Ubuntu, but to free software (aka open source). I disagree. Most people in LoCos (from my experience) are loyal to Ubuntu, but use other platforms and distros as well. There is no exclusivity requirement when you sign up to (or start) a LoCo. Nowhere on the wiki / documentation / code of conduct is it mandated to use Ubuntu. Diversity and choice are great, we don't want a team of automatons who agree with everything Ubuntu/Canonical says/does and only run their software. That appears to be the Apple way :) We are united by a set of ideals and work together to promote software which helps further these ideals. You're making an assumption here. Not everyone is working under the same set of ideals/principles as you. Some use Ubuntu because they like it, not because of some philosophical ideal. Why then, must all of our advocacy revolve around one GNU+Linux distribution? Because we're Ubuntu LoCos? People can be in a LoCo and a LUG and another FLOSS group and a knitting group, a car enthusiast club. We are not exclusive. Firstly, because Ubuntu is seen by most people as the best way to introduce new people to a (mostly) free desktop environment. What distro are you proposing instead? Gnewsense? I have witnessed a FSF created free software group in the UK have a flamewar over whether the group should give out Ubuntu CDs at Software Freedom Day or not. I would envisage that this LibrePlanet would be similarly minded given it's an FSF initiative. That kind of in fighting is unwelcome in free software communities, but seems inevitable whenever Free Software zealots get their hands on a group. It is certainly much easier to simply promote one operating system than a family of them. Still, this is no reason to limit ourselves. A team not entirely exclusive to Ubuntu can just as easily choose to promote Ubuntu exclusively for events aimed at the general public. Ubuntu may be the best now, but if something better came along or if Ubuntu went downhill, we should be able and ready to adapt. Being an Ubuntu LoCo does not provide this flexibility. That's a bit glass-half-empty. How about getting involved and helping to make Ubuntu better rather than hedging your bets and anticipating the day when/if it fails? Seems overly pessimistic to me. Secondly, because the infrastructure is there. Canonical provides a wiki and mailing lists to their teams and in exchange, the teams work for them, albeit loosely, as part of the Ubuntu LoCo project, under its name and banner. LoCo teams are not obliged to use any of the resources that Canonical provides. A group of like-minded individuals can setup a LoCo pretty much anywhere on the planet. They don't have to use the web hosting,
Re: Massachusetts Was: Ubuntu LoCo's should move to LibrePlanet
Hi Martin, On 9 June 2010 14:07, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: Clarification on the current state of the Massachusetts LoCo team and the tarnishing of our good name on this mailing list: It wasn't my intention to besmirch the good name of your LoCo. I was merely trying to highlight that Dannys perceptions are probably based on the activities he's experienced in his local team(s) and as such may not apply to all LoCos, hence a wholesale 'this is how it is, so we should move to libreplanet' might be somewhat misguided if based on false assumptions. On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 13:29 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: We will gladly accept people from the entire spectrum of FOSS, if we were holding an event with Fedora then I'd expect to see both Ubuntu and Fedora CDs. Of course the only people we've had trouble with is the FSF who don't like Ubuntu CDs given out at their events, fair enough I suppose. Indeed, if you're running the show then you get to set the rules. If the FSF run an event I would fully expect them to require hazmat suits when touching apple equipment, and a propensity towards using wired over wifi. :) However (and this is my beef) _if_ Dannys proposition (remember it's titled _move_ to libreplanet, not _join_ libreplanet as well as your loco) is to do exactly that then we fall under the spell of the FSF when attending LibrePlanet events. As such it would be almost certainly verboten to distribute the evil tainted Ubuntu CDs (despite them having a 'free software only' installation option). Note the GNU wiki that is linked from LibrePlanet lists almost _no_ LUGs in the UK despite there being over a hundred of them. This is either an oversight on their part, or could it be because they are LUGs and not GNU/LUGs? So don't. Use a LUG/FLOSS banner instead or as well as. The MA LoCo doesn't have a FOSS/LUG banner, so this even was an Ubuntu event and it was unfortunate that the people couldn't get over themselves to promote FOSS, but the event went down and it was very successful. I realise that Danny implied both a literal and actual banner, my reply was more literal. I probably should have phrased it as Attend the event under a LUG/FLOSS name instead or as well as. I'm certainly not suggesting that the LoCo should fund banners for every other non-LoCo team in the area, but merely use the name / brand of that group (with their permission and/or attendance) if appropriate. Perhaps that says more about your group that people feel it's exclusive, than Ubuntu or indeed the people themselves. Also note that in every community there are people who don't/won't contribute for some reason or another. I hope not, I've worked hard to make sure that our culture is inclusive that people have self authority to go out there and run all kinds of events, get together and be polite and kindly with each other. I think you might have misunderstood my point. In every community there are people who lurk, this is normal. They subscribe to 'our' mailing lists, watch discussion in the irc channels and read the forums. We should not be expecting 100% of them to contribute. If we do, then we're going to be sorely disappointed, it won't happen. You can't _make_ people contribute. You can set the conditions so that they _might_ if they want to, but you can't force them, and I wouldn't want to see a LoCo try. I hope I've made clear that the LoCo isn't loco. Sure, sorry if it sounded like I was picking on your loco, I wasn't. Also look kindly towards Danny, I don't think he means to suggest that LoCo teams be shut down, but that their membership might be interested in joining another team. Ubuntu LoCo's should move to LibrePlanet is an incredibly poor choice of subject, and the content doesn't match what you describe if that is indeed Dannys intention. Perhaps Danny can clarify himself? Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Does it work for me
On 9 June 2010 17:13, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 11:30 -0400, J Mark Cox wrote: I have to chip in and say I just don't get it. I started using GNU/Linux because it worked on an old computer that was a freebie. I've never gotten into the whole it must be free/libre, open source or it's evil thing. If Windows 95 had installed and run on that old PC I may never have found linux. Does it work? For me that is it. I disagree with this sentiment so much, perhaps this analogy can help explain: A bad analogy is like a leaky screwdriver I don't believe for a second that a normal person, given a clear understanding, could be selfish and self defeating to presume that technical practicality is the only importance, that our community isn't worth anything, the only importance is that the software works. You should get out more. I meet people every day who couldn't care less whether software is GNU GPL 2, LGPL, AGPL or whatever. The vast majority of people I meet want software that works. That's it. If it's free of cost that's a bonus. Case in point just today, a co-worker and I were comparing e-book readers. I have an Amazon Kindle (which the FSF childishly calls a 'swindle' [1]) and my colleague has a Sony e-reader. I mentioned some of the features that the kindle has which the Sony device doesn't, namely over the air newspaper delivery. However I also pointed out that there's this great software called 'calibre' (which is free/open source) which lets you 'scrape' news content from websites and upload to your reader (whatever make/model). As soon as I mentioned Calibre she said 'yeah, that's the one I use!'. I showed her the news-scraping feature and she was delighted. At the end of the conversation I mentioned to her that I have donated to the author because it's great software. She immediately told me she's already donated too. At no point in the conversation did we talk about software freedom, licenses, code sharing or the commons. She wanted software that works, and she was prepared to _voluntarily_ pay for it if it did! I don't feel the need to bang on about software freedom to her. She's already there, she uses Ubuntu (of her own choice, not advocated by me) at home, and free software on Windows machines. She does that without really caring what the license implications are. I would be willing to assert that there are a massive number of people out there just like her, and rail-roading them into being free software advocates isn't productive. What is productive is that she took Ubuntu CDs off my desk and used them to spread Ubuntu to her family because she liked the software and it works. Cheers, Al. [1] http://www.defectivebydesign.org/amazon-kindle-swindle -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Does it work for me
Martin, On 9 June 2010 18:16, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: Alan, I know you've been burned by the FSF and by other people who bang on about Free Software. I have no issue with people who 'bang on' about free software, I do it myself often enough. What I do have issue with is people thinking it's the only way, and anyone who thinks otherwise is clearly deluded. I can't help how badly other people have communicated to you, but your not helping improve that so long as your position is that you revel in principle having a culture that is ignorant of software ownership and the social and political fall out. I am somewhat incredulous that you think these people have communicated _to_ _me_. These are worldwide campaigns which have done the FSF no help whatsoever. DDOS Apple Genius bar or spamming Amazon with the word 'swindle' sound like adult, coherent plans for world domination of Free Software to you? To me they are childish insular and short-sighted. I sometimes think that there is a set of people who have been scared by bad FSF communication and have taken it upon themselves to valiantly oppose all idealism as useless. Refusing to talk about noble ideals isn't noble, refusing to consider the future isn't clairvoyant. I'm perfectly willing to accept the idea of a utopian future where all software is Free. Meanwhile back on planet earth in 2010 that's not the case, and won't be the case for some time. I'm doing my bit, but just because I'm not doing it the way you, Danny or the FSF wants doesn't make my contribution any less valuable or worthwhile. Patronising me in this way doesn't do anything to fix that point of view. I'm not saying you should throw away your gadgets, just consider the cost of it. If the cost is acceptable then fair enough, but you won't even talk about the cost as if it didn't exist. How unfair of you to disempower people by holding back what you know. Again, I have a different approach and different definition of 'success'. I think someone running Ubuntu and donating to free software authors is a bit of a success. Not enough for you? Sorry, tough. That's nice but economics is not this issue although it's helpful if we have good economics for industrial revolution, I'm sure donations will help, but do they pay the bills? My point was merely to illustrate that there are people moving in the free software direction - when presented with working software. Whether that model is sustainable financially I don't know, it's not something I have considered. Your apparently as absolutely apposed to mentioning it as the FSF is absolutely apposed to using proprietary software. There needs to be more nuance and less blank and white thinking. Nope, I'm not opposed to mentioning it. I merely don't see it as top of the list. They don't care because we don't speak up, rail roading has hurt you obviously and that's why it's not effective or right to communicate like that. Forgive the socially awkward people, they tried and failed to explain things in a way that isn't absolute and grandiose. I don't need to speak up. She's already using free software whether she knows it or not. Social and political implications go hand in hand with technical function, you can't separate one from the other just because you don't feel like thinking. What a world we have made for ourselves out of such a culture. Again.. meanwhile back in the real world, I'll carry on doing my little bit. Not good enough for you, fair enough, lets agree to disagree. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Lucid Release Parties
On 27 April 2010 11:49, Daniel Holbach daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com wrote: - http://houseparty.cx/ I set this one up more as a joke after the whole Windows 7 House Party idea. It was used for Karmic, and I edited the page so it's updated for Lucid, but I'm happy for it to die or be taken off the wiki if it reduces confusion. (be nice for loco.ubuntu.com to have a similar map feature though) :) Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: 10.04 CDs
On 7 April 2010 15:52, David Rubin dru...@ubuntu.com wrote: They have never shipped 64bit in the past, I would still recommend only shipping the 32bit because generally these CD's are to give away at events and to newbie users who might not have 64bit PCs. I have plenty of 64-bit CDs that have been shipped to me. So to say they have 'never shipped 64bit' is somewhat misleading. The most recent releases have been shipped 32-bit only. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: 10.04 CDs
On 7 April 2010 16:03, Paul Tagliamonte paul...@ubuntu.com wrote: I don't disagree that you can order them, but I think we are talking about the default LoCo shipment here. Yes, I was UK LoCo Team lead when I ordered them :) Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
[ANNOUNCE] Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board seeking new member
The Ubuntu EMEA Regional Membership Board (EMEA RMB) is seeking an additional Ubuntu community member to join as a member of the board. More details about the RMB can be found at the following links:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-membership-board-emea The Regional Membership Boards are responsible for considering Ubuntu member applications and do this via a regular public meeting held on IRC. Ideally the candidate should reside in an timezone which is conducive to attending one hour online meetings which are typically held at around 20:00 UTC, and can commit to attending those meetings wherever possible. The EMEA RMB will collate nominations and pass the list (in full) to the Community Council who will select one person from the list supplied. The plan looks like this:- * Nominations open with this mail on 10th December 2009 * Nominations close on 17th December 2009 * EMEA RMB to collate nominees and pass to the Community Council by 24th December * Community Council to select from above pool and announce accordingly If you are an Ubuntu member and are interested in joining the EMEA RMB, or know someone else who is an existing member and might be suitable, please drop an email to the board at the following address:- ubuntu-membership-board-e...@lists.ubuntu.com Note: This is a private mailing list so your mail will be held in moderation, and you may be notified of this via a reply. We will approve all nomination mails to the list. Please pass this notification on to your teams. Many thanks, Alan Pope For the Community Council and EMEA Regional Membership Board -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Financial aid for events
2009/12/7 Legendario kemel.zai...@ubuntu-sp.org: I need to ask you guys that. As an official loco team, is there any possibility of requesting Canonical's financial support for a local event promoted by the team? Where else can Canonical help? You're better off contacting Canonical marketing directly. I'm not sure how many of them read this list. Lately, I've requested a conference pack which came to me and was a great success on the conference. I'd like to thank you guys for that. But one way I thought I could help on improving it was with the leaflets. The only problem with them is that they were in English. If you guys can send me the source file, I can easily translate it to you and send the translated file back so next time any portuguese speaking team asks for it, you guys can send the translated version. What do you think? Sounds like you need:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing/ and http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/ The latter is a great resource. I'd recommend you upload whatever materials you create to that site. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
New LoCo Council Members
Hi, It's with great pleasure I'd like to announce the new members of the Ubuntu LoCo Council. * Laura Czajkowski - https://edge.launchpad.net/~czajkowski * Chris Crisafulli - https://edge.launchpad.net/~itnet7 * Christophe Sauthier - https://edge.launchpad.net/~christophe.sauthier After a delay getting started the election process went very well. We originally intended to have two new members on the LoCo council to replace the two members who recently left. However after voting we had a draw but as they are all fantastic contributors to the project we thought it would be best to add all three of them to the team. From the Community Council's point of view it was great to have so many high quality nominees for the post to choose from. For the LoCo council I'm looking forward to working with these great new additions to the team. Regards, Alan Pope (for the CC). -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: New LoCo
Hi Nikesh 2009/11/12 Nikesh Gyawali gnik...@hotmail.com: Can you please tell me how to create a new LoCo team? I don't understand the things of the website. Just tell me the steps. I've read all the necessary things there. Whereabouts in the world did you want to setup a LoCo? Have you seen this page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Top things to do after installing Karmic
2009/10/30 Joe Barker joeb...@gmail.com: The only thing that I would fault it for is suggesting people illegally download something from TPB. There's also the screenshot of deluge showing a number of illegal torrents, which I wouldn't recommend too much ;) I agree. Illustrating that people can use P2P networks should they want to is one thing, advocating copyright violation is another. I would also hold off with the medibuntu/w32codecs install. My laptop and desktop have been running karmic for months with no w32codecs installed and I've yet to find a video file I can't open. VLC, Mplayer and totem seem to be able to open just about anything I throw at them. I only use the codecs that are in the main repository and it works fine. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Reminder, OpenWeek starts on Monday!
2009/10/30 Efrain Valles effie-j...@ubuntu.com: Awesome. DO you have a hash tag for microblogging? so we can do some heavy duty coverage in that region? I'd say #openweek would be good, as googling for it returns plenty of hits relating to this. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: ShipIt Changes
2009/10/21 Jorge O. Castro jo...@ubuntu.com: Can you elaborate on this? Like others I too was surprised that you hadn't applied for membership. I get the opposite vibe on membership, I've always seen the ability for a non-developer to become an Ubuntu member was a uniting factor in the project, not the other way around. Do you feel that there is a perception that there is a division being created by membership? Indeed. In the membership board sessions I've seen (and taken part in) it's been the case that developers have actually been rejected more than non-developers. For the EMEA board we tend to push developers towards the MOTU route, and instead tend to approve members based on non-development activities. Whether that's testing, bug triage, artwork, documentation, support or whatever, we're very open to non-developers. I'm also keen to know how we can resolve issues relating to the perception of Ubuntu membership. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Forwarding From loco-contacts to Team Email Lists
Hi, 2009/10/2 Grant Bowman grant...@ubuntu.com: It has been brought to my attention that the written guidelines for acting as a loco-contact are a bit vague. LoCo wiki pages [1] say you need to be subscribed to the loco-contacts list and act as a point of contact however they do not say anything about forwarding select emails to LoCo mail lists, either unmodified or in a rewritten form which requires significantly more volunteer time. I don't believe there is a policy anywhere about forwarding mails either at a LoCo level or indeed mailing list etiquette level. Individual LoCos are of course free to manage their own mailing lists as they see fit - within the boundaries of the Code of Conduct and the Leadership Code of Conduct. As I have been reprimanded by our official loco-contact for forwarding items from this list to our local list I am hoping this can be clarified and documented for myself and others. I personally fail to see the issue with forwarding LoCo Contacts mails to LoCo lists. It may be that they need to be edited, translated or otherwise modified, but I don't recall any messages that have content which should absolutely not be passed to LoCo lists. Indeed most of the more recent mails have explicitly requested to be passed far and wide to increase readership and thus awareness of the content. In my mind, not forwarding relevant information that LoCo Team members might find useful is more harmful than too much email. Points of contact should act in both directions. I agree. We're shouting into the wind if nobody is reading loco-contacts mail, or indeed if only a select small percentage of the community is seeing the mail. been suggested that forwarding emails such as Jono's Getting key languages over the 80% translated level is specifically not an approved practice and even goes against local team policy though I know that this policy is not written anywhere. I think this is the key point. It's difficult to assert a policy if it's not made public what that policy is. I am reminded of Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy.. http://www.planetclaire.org/quotes/hitchhikers/ But Mr Dent, the plans have been available in the local planning office for the last nine months. .. Yes, said Arthur, yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'Beware of the Leopard'. I welcome others to share their best practices in this area and help clarify the written LoCo documentation. I'd be interested to know what the specific rationale is for _not_ passing loco-contacts mail to locos. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Reminder: New LoCo Council Members sought..
Just a quick reminder in case nobody had seen the mail below. Please ask in your locos if you have anyone who might be interested in joining the LoCo Council. We've already quite a few names put forward, but don't let that put you off adding your name to the list, or the name of someone else who you might think will be suitable. We're keen to find motivated active contributors to help us with the LoCo project. Thanks, Al. -- Forwarded message -- From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com Date: 2009/9/23 Subject: New LoCo Council Members sought.. To: Ubuntu local community team (LoCo) contacts loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com Hi LoCo teams! A little while ago Nick Ali stepped down from the LoCo Council. We were of course very sad to see this happen, and would like to thank Nick for his great work on the Council. However, we are now down one person, and need to find a new member. I'm writing this mail to ask for volunteers to step forward and nominate themselves or another willing person for this position. There is only one position available, so if more than one person steps forward, there will be a vote to decide on the successful candidate. The LoCo Council is defined on the wiki [0]. We meet up once a month over IRC to go through items on the team agenda [1]. This typically involves approving new LoCo teams, resolving issues within teams, approving LoCo team mailing list requests, and anything else that comes along. The process by which a new member of the Council is selected is defined by the Community Council is outlined on the wiki [2]. The first stage is for people to nominate themselves, or be nominated by someone else. We will confirm with each person whether they actually want to be put forward or not. We will give ~2 weeks for this process. Please pass this mail back to your own LoCo team so everyone is aware of the process. We welcome nominations from anywhere in the world, and from any LoCo team. Nominees do not need to be a LoCo Team Leader to be nominated for this post. We are however looking for people who are active in their LoCo Team. ** Please send nominations to loco-coun...@lists.ubuntu.com which is a private mailing list only for the LoCo Council members. ** The above mailin list is moderated, however all nomination mails will be approved before the end of the nomination period If you'd like to ask any of the LoCo Council members questions privately then you contact us individually [3] or use the above mailing list address. ** The nomination process starts now, and ends at 00:01 UTC on 7th October 2009. ** Once this period is over the LoCo Council will collate the nominations and double check that each person nominated is still happy to stand. We will then pass this list to the CC as per the process outlined at [2]. Many thanks, Ubuntu LoCo Council. [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/Delegation [3] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lococouncil/+members -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: SoSLUG Ubuntu Global Jam in East of England
Hi, 2009/9/20 linux li...@soslug.org: The Southend on Sea Linux User Group is running a Ubuntu Global Jam on both the 3rd and 4th of October, however I have no developers or specialists within my group although we will demonstrate as best we can. You might want to subscribe to and send this to the Ubuntu UK LoCo mailing list. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Hug for Efrain
2009/6/16 Jono Bacon j...@ubuntu.com: I think it is time for a group hug for Effie. :-) /me hugs Effie. :-) Come to the next UDS effie... this could be you! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jzGIaZcGcM :) Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: LoCo official letterheads and other materials
2009/4/14 Nicholas Ng nbli...@gmail.com: Different countries may have different way of handling things. And as an approved team, I think it's good to follow proper procedures, Ubuntu CoC and trademarks rather than we simply design our letterheads or other official LoCo materials. Have you seen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BusinessCards which says:- Ubuntu members are entitled to Ubuntu business cards. Once you have successfully completed the membership process, you will be added to the list of members and are entitled to carry and use Ubuntu cards. So only Ubuntu Members should really have these cards. Otherwise you're circumventing the Ubuntu membership process to allow non-members to have/use them. Cheers, Al. LoCo Council EMEA Membership Board -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Fwd: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party
Forwarded as requested. -- Forwarded message -- From: Lucy lucybrid...@gmail.com Date: 2009/3/25 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Announcement: Manchester Release Party To: British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com I'm pleased to announce that Ian Forrester (from BBC Backstage) has booked us the BBC Manchester Bar on Friday 24th April for the Ubuntu-UK Manchester release party. The party will start at 7pm and go on until late (although after 10pm we may have to move to another pub on Oxford Road). If you are interested in attending you need to sign up before 9am 24th April. You can do this by emailing me, adding yourself to the facebook page [1] or adding yourself to upcoming yahoo page [2]. The address is: New Broadcasting House, Oxford Road, Manchester M60 1SJ. The nearest train station is Oxford Road, although it's within walking distance of Piccadilly and Victoria stations. For car parking, the Cornerhouse is just down the road and their website [3] has some useful information. When you arrive just wait in reception where someone will meet you to take you up to the bar. Please feel free to pass this on to anyone you think maybe interested. It's time to show the London lot some competition! Rock on Ubuntu 9.04!! Lucy [1] http://preview.tinyurl.com/cy6pgq [2] http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/2173360/?ps=5 [3] http://www.cornerhouse.org/about/?page=22330 -- ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Team Information Request
2009/3/16 Richard A. Johnson nixter...@ubuntu.com: LP ID: ubuntu-uk Country: United Kingdom State|Province|Region: England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Channel Islands City: Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam Website: http://www.ubuntu-uk.org/ Mailing List: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk Forums: http://uk.ubuntuforums.org/ Email: ubuntu...@lists.ubuntu.com IRC Channel: #ubuntu-uk Provides Support: Yes Approved: Yes Approved Date: Not sure.. Will try to get our approval date out of the logs. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: After the Global Bug Jam
2009/2/24 Daniel Holbach daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com: I didn't mean to limit the discussion to statistics as they are the least important part to me, but as we're talking about it already: I was thinking of adding something like Alan Pope managed to do 6 weeks of solid 5-a-day in May 2008. Sorry, yes, I didn't mean to focus just on the stats. It was just the first thing that popped into my head as I wasn't able to attend our one. Dave Walker, our team leader blogged about it and it seems to have gone very well. I don't know if he's on this list, I'll give him a poke to make sure he is. http://blog.daviey.com/blogroll/ubuntu-uk-community-bug-jam-09.html What about the organisation? What about lessons learned at your event? We started off planning the event some months ago, and as usual there was plenty of discussion about where the event should be located. Many people would find it difficult travelling long distances to the bug jam, so we clearly stated from the outset that if people wanted to organise multiple events, then they should go ahead and do it. As it turned out we had two, one in London and one in the midlands (about 3 hours from London). This meant we could get even more people involved than if we just had one location. We also had very regular meetings via irc leading up to the event. Making sure it was fresh in everyones minds, and we could keep poking people to look for events and organise travel/facilities. We normally only meet once a month, so meeting weekly (or in some cases every other week) leading up to the event really was a great way to make sure it didnt slip peoples minds. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: After the Global Bug Jam
Apologies if you get any duplicates of mails from me right now. gmail fail. 2009/2/24 Daniel Holbach daniel.holb...@ubuntu.com: That sounds like great planning and great organisation. Well done, Ubuntu-UK team! :-) It was a real team effort, really showed that when we pull together we can achieve something great! I'm wondering how we can decentralise this even more. In the IRC sessions, the video on youtube and in other places I said multiple times: if you don't find a good venue and it's just a few people attending, do it in your house, ask people to bring biscuits. :-) Yeah. I offered my house up initially before we had any venues to make sure we had _somewhere_ but withdrew it once we knew we had a couple of venues (plus some home issues meant it was no longer feasible). In the long run, I'd expect smaller city teams to come together as well. Having an activity together will certainly help. Yeah, we could certainly have got a few more venues. These events can always rock a bit more :) Any ideas on how we can push the concept a bit more? Do you have examples of GBJ events that happened in this cycle in odd locations? Maybe push the different locations thing next time, to get people thinking outside the box location-wise. They don't _have_ to have an office with a wired network or conference calling facility. Coffee shops, houses, community centres and so on are all potential options. Maybe have a competition for weirdest location for a bug jam. That might help highlight the fact that you can do this anywhere. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Don't forget the IRC channel during the party
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 12:50 -0700, Walter Neary wrote: I recently discovered that #ubuntu-releaseparty was registered on freenode, we managed to contact the owner and change things so an appropriate title could be set for the channel. So lets all join the channel for the party, whenever it may be happening.:-) It's #ubuntu-release-party, but #ubuntu-releaseparty forwards there so people will end up in the same place :) Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
New contact for Ubuntu-UK
Hi, Just a quick mail to let you know that as of today I'm now the point of contact for the Ubuntu-UK loco team. Cheers, Al signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Request for translation help
Hi, This is a call for help to _all_ LoCo teams to help us to achieve the following tasks:- * Translate some screencasts * Help us build a better process for managing the translation of screencasts later- * Create audio dubs of screencasts The screencast team has created a few screencasts. Some people have started creating subtitles (captions) and work is ongoing to translate these to other languages. We hope to achieve two goals with this, accessibility for those who can't hear the audio track, and internationalisation for those who don't understand English (or my 'non-international-English' accent ;). Work has already begun. We have quite a few already transcribed in English - which makes the translation to other languages easier (so I understand). The efforts made so far can be found here:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/TranslationStatus We have some information about subtitling being created on the following page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/Subtitles I recently posted a status and call for help on the ubuntu screencasts mailing list:- https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-screencasts/2007-September/51.html Which goes into much more detail. Please also see:- http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Subtitle_Usage Please let us know on the screencasts mailing list, or by maintaining the TranslationStatus page linked above if you'd like to help us. In addition to all this we would also like to get audio dubs of screencasts, but appreciate this is harder for some people to achieve, so I think that subtitles are a nice initial low hanging fruit that allows us to improve accessibility for the team. Many thanks, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Face to Face support on the Ohio Website
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:54:30AM -0400, Steve Stalcup wrote: Hi All Just wanted to introduce our Face to Face support module. We are working on refining the code now. As soon as its cleaned up, we'll give it to whichever teams want it. Our team feels this will be a great way to offer support. http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org and detailed on my blog http://vorian.org/?p=64 Neat idea. Some questions I have about it:- * How do you ensure quality? Given it's a one to one service, there is no way of knowing what the helper is saying to the novice. No way for others to step in and correct the help as there would be for mailing lists, irc, forums and the answer tracker. * Who puts up the cost of calls? I note you have a big donate button on your site - does that money go to reimburse people who have spent hours on the phone? Is this not a worry for you due to low-cost/free call plans you may have? * Do you use traditional phone or VOIP solutions? * Will you be producing any stats for how many calls you guys make, and to how many customers and their duration. This could help other locos to decide whether to do this :) Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Spam on loco lists
On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 09:36:25AM +1200, Craig Box wrote: Hi, It's getting to the point where I have to moderate ~10 messages a day on the (otherwise rather quite) ubuntu-nz list. They are all spam, showing up as posts from unsubscribed people. Is SpamAssassin run on lists.ubuntu.com? Are other people seeing a similar problem? Should I raise a ticket with the sysadmins? How about getting more people from your LoCo involved as moderators of the list. That way you can distributue the load a bit more. I appreciate this does not fix the problem as such, but you could at least lose a little less hair by doing it. Seeing how much mail goes into the Ubuntu mailing lists I suspect they'd need some considerable hardware to scan every mail, or long delays would result. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: New Ubuntu Website
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 01:27:23PM -0500, Matthew Nuzum wrote: You will soon see that the main www.ubuntu.com website has changed. It has a new look and is now based on the drupal CMS. What version of Drupal out of interest? I know that many of you like to modify your sites to match the www.ubuntu.com site. I currently have a drupal theme available that I'm happy to share with you. Soon I'll have a moin theme and a plain HTML file as well. Also, I'll make available graphics in an editable format (photoshop or Gimp) so that you can customize the graphics. Can I get hold of the drupal theme. I would like to retheme the screencasts site to be consistent. Cheers, Al. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
