Re: Please share with your LoCos
Hi there, I suppose you have already received few responses from Bangladeshi users already. Nevertheless Shabab Mustafa has translated the survey to local Bangla language https://www.spreadsheets.google.com/a/linux.org.bd/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dC1rQmd0QXlNdS01d0FOZWRYOElxS0E6MAndplr=1 I have few short questions though How long the survey will be conducted? Is there any definite deadline when the loco needs to submit their survey feedback or when the survey finding will be made public? -- Thanking you, Shahriar Tariq Volunteer, Bangladesh Linux Users Alliance http://linux.org.bd/ Team Contact, Ubuntu Bangladesh https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-bd Founding Member, Amigos Clothing http://amigosclothing.com/ Personal Blog: আশাবাদীর দিনপঞ্জিকা http://www.ashabadi.com/ Endorsement: আমাদের প্রযুক্তি ফোরাম http://forum.amaderprojukti.com/ and মুক্ত.অর্গ http://mukto.org -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog I just bloggued about it in french, so that it will appear in planet.ubuntu-fr.org (and a few other planet too) Thanks for the work Maco ! Christophe --- http://www.ubuntu-fr.org Communauté Ubuntu Francophone -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/2011 11:31 AM, Christophe Sauthier wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog I just bloggued about it in french, so that it will appear in planet.ubuntu-fr.org (and a few other planet too) Thanks for the work Maco ! Christophe --- http://www.ubuntu-fr.org Communauté Ubuntu Francophone Merci Christophe, I took a few minutes to gather the past links and offers / requests for help (thanks Maco, Alan), and used your blog as a reference to invite - -qc to fill the survey, hopefully we'll get more help for this [1]. A+ Fabian [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-quebec/2011-May/006941.html - -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MagicFab ~ Local Community (LoCo) team contact pour Ubuntu Québec http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk3fzjIACgkQfUcTXFrypNW8fgCgm9MquJ3Wjqm4slZJycF610hK 86QAoOytWFjq4i0HLdr8JnrsUSpBkA6j =kDpD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Aviv Sapire ser...@zoidberg.org wrote: forwarded to the Israeli LoCo and translated as well. i guess it's not an option to answer the question in hebrew as no one will understand it, right? Some people who could read but not write English have given answers in Spanish. I know at least one dev reads Hebrew fluently, so I don't think getting a translation should be hard. -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Aviv Sapire ser...@zoidberg.org wrote: forwarded to the Israeli LoCo and translated as well. i guess it's not an option to answer the question in hebrew as no one will understand it, right? Some people who could read but not write English have given answers in Spanish. I know at least one dev reads Hebrew fluently, so I don't think getting a translation should be hard. (I did get your Hebrew translation of the questions though, so I'll work on making Hebrew and Polish versions tonight) -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Alejandro Rigalt arig...@gmail.com wrote: I shared with ubuntu-gt (Guatemala) The team will try to answer the most we can in English, but could be great to have the spanish version. I can read some Spanish, but I'm *really* out of practice with writing it. If anyone could give me translations for Spanish, that'd be great. -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Great initiative! Expect lots of answers from Denmark in the near future! laoshi tir, 24 05 2011 kl. 21:13 -0400, skrev Mackenzie Morgan: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan -- http://stromata.dk -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Survey taken and forwarded to LoCo! Michael -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
You might also see some answers from Norway as well! R. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:13 AM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Hi all. tir, 24 05 2011 kl. 21:13 -0400, skrev Mackenzie Morgan: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Shared with the Swiss LoCo members :) Greets Marcus -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
tir, 24 05 2011 kl. 21:13 -0400, skrev Mackenzie Morgan: To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. I got some complaints about using google docs for that survey from Catalan LoCo Team. I assume it was the quickest way to do that, but not always the quickest is the better, right? -- Rafael Carreras Guillén http://rcarreras.caliu.cat http://blogs.fsfe.org/rcarreras -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Sent to the Egyptian LoCo team :) Best regards, Ahmed Toulan. On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Rafael Carreras rcarre...@ubuntu.catwrote: tir, 24 05 2011 kl. 21:13 -0400, skrev Mackenzie Morgan: To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. I got some complaints about using google docs for that survey from Catalan LoCo Team. I assume it was the quickest way to do that, but not always the quickest is the better, right? -- Rafael Carreras Guillén http://rcarreras.caliu.cat http://blogs.fsfe.org/rcarreras -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On 25/05/11 10:16, Rafael Carreras wrote: I got some complaints about using google docs for that survey from Catalan LoCo Team. I assume it was the quickest way to do that, but not always the quickest is the better, right? it doesn't impose any non-free dependencies on the users, it is using software as a service as a communications tool (which is OK according to RMS and the FSF as long as you are not depending on it to perform your computational activities) it means that the results could end up being shared using an open file format, and it is quick and good enough. I am sure launchpad or the loco directory teams would welcome contributions from the Catalan team to add survey functionality. Alan. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
2011/5/25 Alan Bell alan.b...@theopenlearningcentre.com: On 25/05/11 10:16, Rafael Carreras wrote: I got some complaints about using google docs for that survey from Catalan LoCo Team. I assume it was the quickest way to do that, but not always the quickest is the better, right? it doesn't impose any non-free dependencies on the users, it is using software as a service as a communications tool (which is OK according to RMS and the FSF as long as you are not depending on it to perform your computational activities) it means that the results could end up being shared using an open file format, and it is quick and good enough. I am sure launchpad or the loco directory teams would welcome contributions from the Catalan team to add survey functionality. I know, I know. :-) -- Rafael Carreras Guillén http://rcarreras.caliu.cat http://blogs.fsfe.org/rcarreras -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On 11-05-24 09:13 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: [..] If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Hi Mackenzie, I'd like to suggest to consider using LimeSurvey in the future for similar surveys. It seems it would support other languages than English-only and it's free software (added bonus). Unfortunately the survey you propose will most likely only catch English-speaking users which carries several implications, and excludes an important part of Ubuntu users (IMO), specially those we'd most likely want to hear from. It's also not clear from the survey itself who is getting this data, how it will be used and if/how it will be shared. Your email is a good starting point but a bunch of members needs to be clarified. I get so much feedback about what's wrong with Ubuntu that this is bound to get expectations raised and generate even more questions. I won't be forwarding this as I anticipate the questions and complaints about it not being in French, Spanish or Creole (spoken in teams in which I participate), and the other issues I mentioned, but I'd love to help set this up and imporove the process for future surveys. In fact forwarding a request to our corresponding teams for help setting up LimeSurvey somewhere to test/use it would be ideal. Right now I can't coordinate this but if someone organizes it I'll gladly pass the word around my networks. If anyone on this list can get on it directly, even better. We could start looking what hosting companies support it: http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=LimeSurvey-compatible+hosting+companies In case someone can dedicate more time to this right now and convert the existing survey to LimeSurvey, the few docs I read suggest the GoogleDocs data can be imported into it fairly quickly so this could be done in 3 steps: - setup /test LimeSurvey - Put a placeholder in the current survey - migrate the data to it - Redirect the current survey to the LimeSurvey one Anyways, all this can be safely ignored, but looking forward I can't focus on English users anymore and I believe other LocoTeams may have reached that point too. Cheers, Fabian -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MagicFab ~ Local Community (LoCo) team contact pour Ubuntu Québec http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On Wednesday, May 25, 2011 8:39:29 AM Fabián Rodríguez wrote: On 11-05-24 09:13 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: [..] If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Hi Mackenzie, I'd like to suggest to consider using LimeSurvey in the future for similar surveys. It seems it would support other languages than English-only and it's free software (added bonus). I don't personally have a server capable of handling much load (the smallest VPS Rackspace offers), so I was looking for a free hosted solution. Unfortunately the survey you propose will most likely only catch English-speaking users which carries several implications, and excludes an important part of Ubuntu users (IMO), specially those we'd most likely want to hear from. I'm asking for folks to send me translations of the strings (if you don't want to go through to find them, they're now on lp:~maco.m/+junk/survey ) so I can set up parallel surveys in other languages. It's also not clear from the survey itself who is getting this data, how it will be used and if/how it will be shared. Your email is a good starting point but a bunch of members needs to be clarified. I get so much feedback about what's wrong with Ubuntu that this is bound to get expectations raised and generate even more questions. C. de Avillez and I are working on the analysis of it. The results will be made public. At the moment, Kate Stewart and Jeremy Foshee also have access to the results since they expressed interest when I took it to the QA team's IRC channel. -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt-get moo -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Fabian, While I do appreciate your personal stance on the matter of FLOSS I do think it's extremely poor form to not pass it onto your loco team you represent by being on this list if you are the contact for that team. I do appreciate the language barrier for some and as Mackenzie has pointed out she is looking for translations. I can see that some of the questions may point towards a more admin style of user, but I think Mackenzie has done a great job and we as a locoteams community should be helping rather than putting up blockades to stop that from happening. To be clear, I think people on this list who represent their locoteams as the contact should be passing on information to their teams otherwise how else will locoteams know what is going on out there in other communities and survives like this can help gather much needed information. They should do this to be helpful and not base it on their own beliefs or values in OSS. Laura On 25/05/11 13:39, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: On 11-05-24 09:13 PM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: [..] If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Hi Mackenzie, I'd like to suggest to consider using LimeSurvey in the future for similar surveys. It seems it would support other languages than English-only and it's free software (added bonus). Unfortunately the survey you propose will most likely only catch English-speaking users which carries several implications, and excludes an important part of Ubuntu users (IMO), specially those we'd most likely want to hear from. It's also not clear from the survey itself who is getting this data, how it will be used and if/how it will be shared. Your email is a good starting point but a bunch of members needs to be clarified. I get so much feedback about what's wrong with Ubuntu that this is bound to get expectations raised and generate even more questions. I won't be forwarding this as I anticipate the questions and complaints about it not being in French, Spanish or Creole (spoken in teams in which I participate), and the other issues I mentioned, but I'd love to help set this up and imporove the process for future surveys. In fact forwarding a request to our corresponding teams for help setting up LimeSurvey somewhere to test/use it would be ideal. Right now I can't coordinate this but if someone organizes it I'll gladly pass the word around my networks. If anyone on this list can get on it directly, even better. We could start looking what hosting companies support it: http://docs.limesurvey.org/tiki-index.php?page=LimeSurvey-compatible+hosting+companies In case someone can dedicate more time to this right now and convert the existing survey to LimeSurvey, the few docs I read suggest the GoogleDocs data can be imported into it fairly quickly so this could be done in 3 steps: - setup /test LimeSurvey - Put a placeholder in the current survey - migrate the data to it - Redirect the current survey to the LimeSurvey one Anyways, all this can be safely ignored, but looking forward I can't focus on English users anymore and I believe other LocoTeams may have reached that point too. Cheers, Fabian -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MagicFab ~ Local Community (LoCo) team contact pour Ubuntu Québec http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam - -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/czajkowski http://www.lczajkowski.com Skype: lauraczajkowski -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN3P0pAAoJECUQy5EY50eFaKgH/1Ce+ynGiH/aQ5oTYVHXCQ7G lCYQp1bk+juQwMED1Ul4o+d2mzoZuNPPaMXQCJ+jqMjn8E51zXJc86dMdJ71OcFd flMNP3lPasX/IBd9430Ahd7k9/VnkwHT4uct3ELsYbYHaVJFKQ7RaRYEkoB8G3wC mSqoCpJQfI7pENdUmlvNVBP4OI8Mo7A+cptnB6aiGfKL/GfbvizHCODu2kJuAcgQ iZnRiT/N5zOyI/JA0DQaTOGxvODvCSiCQiC5r47p/HR8oHQjSUJiS14XPmw7L9NH iOBIuBKrSepu5d9khthQN7dW0PFrQGyVWNR23mMwf3myVRyByoFm4KHzZ+s9gGU= =l5FF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Sent to CoLoCo (Colorado - US ) ! Thanks for doing this! On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On 11-05-25 08:48 AM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: [...] I'm asking for folks to send me translations of the strings (if you don't want to go through to find them, they're now on lp:~maco.m/+junk/survey ) so I can set up parallel surveys in other languages.v That's great, thank you! I have no idea what lp:~maco.m/+junk/survey is so if someone can point me to any docs about it, I'd appreciate it. [...] C. de Avillez and I are working on the analysis of it. The results will be made public. At the moment, Kate Stewart and Jeremy Foshee also have access to the results since they expressed interest when I took it to the QA team's IRC channel. Most excellent. Knowing in advance how anyone else can access the results is important, and can help motivate people in answering. Thanks for your time, I've already answered BTW. Cheers, Fabian -- Fabián Rodríguez http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MagicFab ~ Local Community (LoCo) team contact pour Ubuntu Québec http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
2011/5/25 Fabián Rodríguez magic...@ubuntu.com: On 11-05-25 08:48 AM, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: [...] I'm asking for folks to send me translations of the strings (if you don't want to go through to find them, they're now on lp:~maco.m/+junk/survey ) so I can set up parallel surveys in other languages.v That's great, thank you! I have no idea what lp:~maco.m/+junk/survey is so if someone can point me to any docs about it, I'd appreciate it. It's a bzr branch on Launchpad. https://code.launchpad.net/~maco.m/+junk/survey Email's probably the easiest way to send me the translations of the strings. -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On Wed, 2011-05-25 at 13:59 +0100, Laura Czajkowski wrote: While I do appreciate your personal stance on the matter of FLOSS I do think it's extremely poor form to not pass it onto your loco team you represent by being on this list if you are the contact for that team. I do appreciate the language barrier for some and as Mackenzie has pointed out she is looking for translations. I think it's extremely poor form to call out a LoCo contact for not passing on a survey which was thrown together without any thought for the non-English community and without any information on how the results will be shared or used. Especially after that contact has reviewed the survey and determined his local community won't be able to understand the survey and does not reach the users the loco is reaching out to. That's the LoCo contact's entire job. I can see that some of the questions may point towards a more admin style of user, but I think Mackenzie has done a great job and we as a locoteams community should be helping rather than putting up blockades to stop that from happening. Why would you want to poison the English-language survey with results from users who can't understand it? Why would you want LoCos to push an English and a localized survey resulting in incomplete and double-votes? Why do you have such little respect for Mackenzie that you're trying to pressure LoCo contacts into using the English survey instead of allowing them to follow through on the localization assistance they have volunteered? To be clear, I think people on this list who represent their locoteams as the contact should be passing on information to their teams otherwise how else will locoteams know what is going on out there in other communities and survives like this can help gather much needed information. They should do this to be helpful and not base it on their own beliefs or values in OSS. I don't think what you're suggesting is helpful at all. I think it's destructive to the surveys and counterproductive to the expressed localization efforts. -- Nathan Haines nhai...@ubuntu.com Ubuntu - http://www.ubuntu.com/ -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Survey passed on to ubuntu-za mailing list. I'll do a call there too to see if there are translations available. -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On 25 May 2011 11:13, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan I'm forwarding this to the Australian Team, it looks very handy. The other aspect I'd like considered though is giving a bit more detail on who is collecting the data and how it will be used. The comment on a bunch of members of the community doesn't really give much information on the topic and I'm always a bit reserved about just giving unspecified people unspecified access to data collected, no matter how identifying it can be. I don't expect a massive long list of everyone and everything, but is there a link to the project that spawned this idea so interested people can look into it further? Regards, Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris Ubuntu-AU Team Contact -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Forwarded to Ubuntu-my :) Regards, Khairul Aizat Kamarudzzaman http://launchpad.net/~fenris fen...@ubuntu.com +6012.659.5675 On 5/25/11 9:13 AM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
On 25 May 2011 03:13, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Forwarded to the Polish Ubuntu forum and a few mailing lists. Cheers, -- # Przemysław Kulczycki ## Jabber/XMPP/Gtalk/Tlen ID: azrael[na]jabster.pl ## (Co to jest? Zobacz na: http://jabberfaq.info ) # www: http://reksio.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~azrael/ -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Please share with your LoCos
When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
Re: Please share with your LoCos
Done and done. Rock on! Paul On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Mackenzie Morgan maco...@gmail.com wrote: When your interaction with other Ubuntu users is entirely made up of developers talking about bugs they need to fix and users seeking support (IRC, forums, bug reports), your perspective changes. It's hard to get a good idea of the big picture. What portion of users are hitting problems in what areas? How do users who've reported bugs feel about the experience? How are the local community teams doing? That kind of stuff is hard to wrap your head around without metrics. To that end, a bunch of members of the Ubuntu community have worked together to create a survey that'll help those of us working on various parts of Ubuntu understand where we need to improve and how we can do better. If you have an opinion on Ubuntu, please take 5 minutes to fill out the following Ubuntu User-Experience survey: http://is.gd/vnPvog Thank you! -- Mackenzie Morgan -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts -- All programmers are playwrights, and all computers are lousy actors. #define sizeof(x) rand() :wq -- loco-contacts mailing list loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
