Re: Bra

2003-08-19 Thread Marcel Gruenauer
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 04:05:22PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote:

 This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that debauchery
 is frowned on at social meetings?

/me smells a what is art? debate coming on...

Marcel

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Re: Bra

2003-08-19 Thread Marcel Gruenauer
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 11:55:39PM +1000, Andrew Savige wrote:

 Victoria Bra, Secret Tango (2003)
 =
 
 L.A.B. Brocard 1976-
 
 This, the third work in Brocard's acclaimed Orange sequence,
[deletia]
 This work is extremely fragile. Please do not touch.

Magnificent. Are you for hire as an art critic? :)

(Assuming you didn't generate this with some Parse::RecDescent grammar. In
which case I'd like a copy of said grammar...)

Marcel

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Re: Bra

2003-08-19 Thread Sam Vilain

 This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that
 debauchery is frowned on at social meetings?
/me smells a what is art? debate coming on...

/me farts in order to mask any such smell before things get out of
hand.
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Sam Vilain, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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knowledge.
 - anon.




Re: Bra

2003-08-18 Thread Steve Purkis
On Friday, August 15, 2003, at 04:42  pm, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:

Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that 
debauchery
*is frowned on at social meetings?
*
*Anyway, this seems unlikely, given Leon's previous insistence that he
*won't be wearing it.

Gads, given the choice, I'd almost rather have photos of you all 
wearing
it on your head Animal House style just to get it over with :) It'd be 
a
fitting addition to the toilet seat around the neck series
Come now, who would be silly enough to do something like that?

-Steve




Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Andrew Savige
dha wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:26:18AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 The goods have indeed arrived. I will not take any photos of it. I may
 bring[1] it to the next social. It is a black Victoria's Secret bra.

 And will you be bringing it on tour for those of us not in the london
 area?  I'm sure MoMA would be happy to put in a temporary exhibit.  :-)

dha, if you can organise a secluded orange-walled room at the museum,
Leon can simply walk in, toss the bra in the air and leave in his wake
a wonderful contemporary site-specific art exhibit, for which I have
prepared the following description.

Victoria Bra, Secret Tango (2003)
=

L.A.B. Brocard 1976-

This, the third work in Brocard's acclaimed Orange sequence,
explodes the theme of semantic [a]chromatic aspects of visual
perception first explored in his highly successful Buffy series,
and fully explores the concept of supporting relationships, which
were touched on in his earlier works. The site's central artifact
is a stark reminder of the lack of support in contemporary
relationships, with the jumbled juxtaposition of its two cups,
indicative of being discarded in a hurry, symbolizing the excessive
rapidity and tautness of modern life. As always with Brocard, it is
vital to consider the intertextuality of the title of the work, in
order to deconstruct the surface meaning of the work itself and
penetrate, as it were, to the kernel of the work's meaning, if
such a concept is still relevant in the present context. Consider,
for example, the word Victoria: does it express the moniker of the
bra's former occupant or merely the state or district in which she
was born? And what of Secret Tango? Is it, in the context of the
universe that is the present work, merely indicative of the site's
location and visual perception, or does it suggest the bra's former
resident once furtively enjoyed a rhythmic dance of long gliding
steps and sudden pauses with the artist? The viewer will no doubt
at this point recall that the word tango rhymes with mango and
thereby grasp the semantic thrust of the work's title. However, the
installation itself has even more to reveal when the particularly
observant viewer speculates on the site's central device being
strapped to the bra's current owner.

This work is extremely fragile. Please do not touch.

/-\



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Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Marna Gilligan
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Leon Brocard wrote:

 The goods have indeed arrived. I will not take any photos of it. I may
 bring[1] it to the next social. It is a black Victoria's Secret bra.

I'd be *more* than happy to take photographs of you modelling the bra, so
as to let those who can't make it to the social join in the fun. ;)


Marna




Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Fri, Aug 15, 2003 at 03:57:58PM +0100, Marna Gilligan wrote:
 On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Leon Brocard wrote:
 
  The goods have indeed arrived. I will not take any photos of it. I may
  bring[1] it to the next social. It is a black Victoria's Secret bra.
 
 I'd be *more* than happy to take photographs of you modelling the bra, so
 as to let those who can't make it to the social join in the fun. ;)

This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that debauchery
is frowned on at social meetings?

Anyway, this seems unlikely, given Leon's previous insistence that he
won't be wearing it.

Nicholas Clark



Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Jason Clifford
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Nicholas Clark wrote:

 This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that debauchery
 is frowned on at social meetings?
 
 Anyway, this seems unlikely, given Leon's previous insistence that he
 won't be wearing it.

Count the number of people who pat him on the back at the meeting just to 
check ;)

Jason Clifford
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Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Elaine -HFB- Ashton
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that debauchery
*is frowned on at social meetings?
*
*Anyway, this seems unlikely, given Leon's previous insistence that he
*won't be wearing it.

Gads, given the choice, I'd almost rather have photos of you all wearing
it on your head Animal House style just to get it over with :) It'd be a
fitting addition to the toilet seat around the neck series

e.



Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Jason Clifford
On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Ali Young wrote:

 and the number of people who try to ping his bra strap

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ ping bra-strap.leon
ping: unknown host bra-strap.leon

Jason
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Re: Bra

2003-08-15 Thread Greg McCarroll
* Elaine -HFB- Ashton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Gads, given the choice, I'd almost rather have photos of you all wearing
 it on your head Animal House style just to get it over with :) It'd be a
 fitting addition to the toilet seat around the neck series
 

Last time you made a wise crack like that you ended up auction your bra,
be careful what you suggest this time ;-)

Greg

p.s. also weird science style


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Re: Bra

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Adler
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 10:26:18AM +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
 Andrew Savige sent the following bits through the ether:
 
  Just wondering if Leon has yet received delivery of the goods he
  successfully bid for at the YAPC::Europe auction. I'm eager to see
  any photos of said goods (just for my ascii art collection, you see).
 
 The goods have indeed arrived. I will not take any photos of it. I may
 bring[1] it to the next social.

And will you be bringing it on tour for those of us not in the london
area?  I'm sure MoMA would be happy to put in a temporary exhibit.  :-)

dha
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Re: Bra

2003-08-14 Thread Leon Brocard
Andrew Savige sent the following bits through the ether:

 Just wondering if Leon has yet received delivery of the goods he
 successfully bid for at the YAPC::Europe auction. I'm eager to see
 any photos of said goods (just for my ascii art collection, you see).

The goods have indeed arrived. I will not take any photos of it. I may
bring[1] it to the next social. It is a black Victoria's Secret bra.

Leon

[1] not wear
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