[LUTE] looking for some lute songs
I am looking for the music of some lute songs. They might be consort songs, they might be madrigals, they might be anything. All I have is titles (kindly supplied by the soprano ...): Miserere my maker (Or is it 'Misery my maker?) (Anon.) Wand`ring in this place (Cavendish) This Sweet and Pleasant Spring (Anon.) Madre mia si muero - Anon. Boësset - Ennuit, dressoir et douleurs The Cavendish I'll be able to find in the library, and the Boësset shouldn't be a problem either. But still, sources and or music welcome. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Big Fret Help
Had the same problem recently, moving from .80 to .95 frets and in my case the remedy consisted of two things: First, I had to reform the fingerboard a little bit with a scraper so as to get it a little bit curved (it was actually curved the wrong way from the 4th fret up...). This might not be necessary in your case, just check with a metal ruler. Then you need a VERY smooth round fingerboard edge - if the radious is too smaall the fret is lifted up from the board: a bit more scraping and finishing touch with some sanding did it for me. If your lute neck is veneered (like mine) however, be careful when rounding the edge - you can easily work through this thin layer... In addition to all this, I wrapped the fret gut a couple of times around a long needle nose plier, mostly the part for the knot and where the edgdes would come: this makes the gut much more flexible, the knot is easier to tie and the gut follows the edge much more smoothly. Hope this helps! Michael On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 15:29 -0700, sterling price wrote: Hi all-- I recently changed the frets on my baroque lute (after many years of service). I went up from 1.10 mm to 1.20 mm on all frets. The problem I am having is there are a few frets that are not sitting all the way flat under the first course so it has a 'choked' sound on some notes. I know this wouldn't happen if the fingerboard was more curved or if I used smaller frets(not an option). Any advice on how to get these big frets to stay flat would be great. And yes they are very tight. Thanks, Sterling -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Big Fret Help
Hi Sterling, Since nobody else seems to be doing so, I'll chip in here. I assume you are using gut for the frets - it's less troublesome than nylon in this respect. I wonder how sharp the edges of your fingerboard are. If they have a sharp edge, there's no 'radius' for the frets to bend around and they will tend to lift above the fingerboard near the edges. Whether this can be remedied depends on how close to the edge your top string is. If there's room, you could ask a luthier to round off the edge of the fingerboard a little - Nothing extreme - just a 1mm radius could make quite a difference. This isn't a big job but I'd not recommend trying it yourself unless you are already good with a scraper. I guess your action is a little high and that's why you want thicker frets. Raised actions can be corrected, but it's not a trivial job and could cost a bit. Good luck! Bill Samson From: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013, 23:29 Subject: [LUTE] Big Fret Help Hi all-- I recently changed the frets on my baroque lute (after many years of service). I went up from 1.10 mm to 1.20 mm on all frets. The problem I am having is there are a few frets that are not sitting all the way flat under the first course so it has a 'choked' sound on some notes. I know this wouldn't happen if the fingerboard was more curved or if I used smaller frets(not an option). Any advice on how to get these big frets to stay flat would be great. And yes they are very tight. Thanks, Sterling -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: looking for some lute songs
Update after the kind assistance of David Hill: I am still looking for these: Madre mia si muero - Anon. Boėsset - Ennuit, dressoir et douleurs (The others were in the Turpyn Book and the Faber edition with Elizabethan lute songs.) David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Bream interview on BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b036ts1w 44 min.. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Big Fret Help
Hi- There was no problem when this lute had just -slightly- smaller frets. I was hoping there would be some remedy I could do without putting new frets on as they are quite expensive at this size. I tried loosening a fret and working it a bit to soften the edge but it wasn't successful. I might try a few other things though. As RE the high action of this lute, I have the same plan that I think Larry K Brown worked from (its the J.J Edlinger 1732 13 course). Anyway, the neck angle and enormous belly scoop/dish shown on the plan result in a high action. I realize that this feature need not be utilized in the copy lute though. --Sterling __ From: Michael Vollbrecht mollbre...@gmail.com To: sterling price spiffys84...@yahoo.com Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Big Fret Help Had the same problem recently, moving from .80 to .95 frets and in my case the remedy consisted of two things: First, I had to reform the fingerboard a little bit with a scraper so as to get it a little bit curved (it was actually curved the wrong way from the 4th fret up...). This might not be necessary in your case, just check with a metal ruler. Then you need a VERY smooth round fingerboard edge - if the radious is too smaall the fret is lifted up from the board: a bit more scraping and finishing touch with some sanding did it for me. If your lute neck is veneered (like mine) however, be careful when rounding the edge - you can easily work through this thin layer... In addition to all this, I wrapped the fret gut a couple of times around a long needle nose plier, mostly the part for the knot and where the edgdes would come: this makes the gut much more flexible, the knot is easier to tie and the gut follows the edge much more smoothly. Hope this helps! Michael On Mon, 2013-07-15 at 15:29 -0700, sterling price wrote: Hi all-- I recently changed the frets on my baroque lute (after many years of service). I went up from 1.10 mm to 1.20 mm on all frets. The problem I am having is there are a few frets that are not sitting all the way flat under the first course so it has a 'choked' sound on some notes. I know this wouldn't happen if the fingerboard was more curved or if I used smaller frets(not an option). Any advice on how to get these big frets to stay flat would be great. And yes they are very tight. Thanks, Sterling -- To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Luthier Ron Banks still active?
Hi all, Does anyone know if Ron Banks of Ft. Worth, Texas is still actively building instruments? I've seen examples of his works (especially wire-strung instruments) online and would be interested in receiving information about a possible commission. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find his contact information anywhere. Thanks, Richard SimAues Austin, Texas -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
