[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: duos with alto recorder
what about the Baron concerto in d minor for BL and Recorder? The four Haim chamber sonatas are also good, and could be edited to cover the missing bass notes as they might be covered in the lute part anyway. The Haim (?Haym) are published by The Lute Society. Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] lute tablature for 'Arioso' and 'Betrachte meine seele' - St John Passion
I am looking for the tablature for the two lute pieces in Bach's 'St John Passion' . I would be grateful for any help in finding a copy many thanks Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: Pitch center on a 10 cs. lute
it is not impossible. I have a Stephen Barber archlute and the SL for the first pegbox is 650mm top string tuned as g' with a'=440. I use an old Nylgut .38 and that has not broken. I must be lucky! It may be relevant that the top course runs over the nut and to the first peg outside the pegbox. The line from bridge to peg is perfectly straight and I suspect this reduces the risk of string breakage on sharp edges of the nut etc. The other factor may be that there is no crowding of the string windings against the side of the pegbox. Best of luck Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] [Lute] Paul Charles Durant Sonata in A
Dear All, are there any copies of this sonata available? I see that Jean Daniel Forget has some of Durant's works on his site but not this particular one I would be most grateful for any help thank you Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Dresden Ms Sonata 44 in A (folios 142-147) - prelude
Dear Collective wisdom, I haven't heard a recording of this sonata and I am wondering how this prelude should be played at the beginning with the chordal section. I would be grateful for any helpful suggestions many thanks Oh- BTW, if playing a long-necked lute with wound bass strings and a lamp positioned low over the music, do not be tempted to stand up while holding the lute! I did this and there was a load bang and the bulb shattered. Apparently there was rather poor insulation in the lamp and the neck of the lute was long enough to 'short' the whole thing Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Weiss London manuscript
it seemed to work OK just now with the pdf zip files. They unzipped and displayed correctly so perhaps there was a momentary problem? Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: B-minor suite with tabulature!
Dear Arto, I thought your playing was excellent and I did send you an email but it obviously didn't arrive. I have found the jpg's on your website and have downloaded them to try the pieces myself. I would be interested to know where you obtained your copy of L85 from as the only copy I could find would need quite bait of 'cleaning' to make it legible to my old eyes. your new 11c lute is sounding very good BTW!. God Jul et et lyckligt nyt Aar! Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Beginning Weiss?
The Lute Society published :- Sylvius Leopold Weiss: Six Sonatas for 11-Course Lute edited by Peter Lay. Six sonatas (suites) and a fantasie, edited from the London and Dresden Weiss manuscripts, 39 pages, ISBN 0 905655 05 2. (copied from the website so they are still available ) Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: tuners
I use a Peterson Strobe tuner -the V-SAM which only adjusts down to 410 but it also has a control system that allows you to transpose the displayed note by semitones. If I am tuning a 10c lute where the top string is tuned to F (a' = 44hz) by adjusting the transposing knob down by 2 semitones the output will then appear 2 semitones higher and it appears that I am tuning a lute in G. The transposition setting remains until the tuner is turned off or the transposition is corrected. Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] lute kits
Dear all, What do you generally think of the lute kits that are available and are they worth buying? The wife of a friend wants to buy her husband a lute (in kit form ?EMS) for his 50th birthday. Obviously she cannot ask him but asked me whether this was a sensible idea. Her husband is a musician, violinist and singer and repairs violins as a hobby so he has some of the requisite skills and tools. What would you advise? I was going to lend her a copy of Robert Lundberg's book as well but I would be very grateful for your opinions many thanks Charles Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] [lute]lute music of shakespeare's time' Newcomb
Dear lutelist. can anyone tell me whether this book is worth getting, for its music content? I understand that there was an article about it in JSTOR but I cant get it in our library and I was wondering about the book's contents thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Baroque Lute duets?
I thought there were some french baroque duets published on Fronimo a couple of years ago by ? Matthias Røsel and what about Baron or Lauffensteiner? There is also a Handel sonata arranged for duet in dmin by Antiqua Edition Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] archlute continuuo for Dido and Anaeas
I am looking for advice about playing the archlute as continuuo in a school
production of Dido and Anaeas. The archlute is mainly for realism!! but I am
expected to accompany the final recitativ and aria ('Thy hand..' and 'When I am
laid..') I would be grateful for any advice from seasoned performers as to how
best to do this without ruining the performance!
thank you in anticipation
Charles
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[LUTE] Re: archlute continuuo for Dido and Anaeas
Dear David, thanks for your advice. I am very grateful for your help and a copy of your recital 'version' would be much appreciated. I will let you know how I get on, but would you mind further questions if they arise? best wishes Charles char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Future facsimiles from the Lute Society
Dear Martyn, the digital download is still available on Richard Civiol's site :- http://luthlibrairie.free.fr/?Renaissance:Anglaise Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute repair and question
re your back problem - it might be helpful to find someone with experience in treating back problems as you start playing again e.g. a chiropracter or , even better, a lutenist with qualifications in Alexander Technique best wishes Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: OT: a computer question
what about Linux? see http://www.ghacks.net/2009/06/10/revive-your-old-mac-g3-g4-or-g5-with-linux/ Charles Browne char...@brownecowie.fsnet.co.uk To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] [lute]Re: eplies to query about Vaudry de Saizenay Ms
Dear All, many thanks for all your helpful replies. I have the contact name and email address now and some other info. I don't think Besançon Library was at fault but were closed when I made my initial search. As it is quite a big organisation I found it difficult to locate the right department - hence my query to lutelist which was answered almost instantly! I will let you know how I get on! best wishes Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: incompatibility gardening/lute playing?
of course, there is no incompatibility! Just use a scarifying lute while gardening and all will be fine!! Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: A Draft Idea
Dear Benjamin, you could light a church candle and the flame will give you some indication of a draught and its direction. Alternatively, you could light incense either in a thurible or as a taper and watch the resulting smoke. Decorative ribbon could also be used, if it is light enough. Lastly, a small, helium-filled,balloon tied to a piece of cotton thread could be a fourth method best of luck Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: John Danyel
On 24/03/10 19:51, Ariel Abramovich wrote: Dear friends, is there any available facsimilar edition of John Danyel lute songs? I'm willing to buy it, if so. Thanks in advance for any advice! Best, Ariel. __ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. [1]Get it now. -- References 1. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html There is ,or was. Edited by David Greer and published by The Scolar Press. I got mine from Brian Jordan in Cambridge (UK) about 10 years ago. get in touch if you need a copy. I don't use this copy much. Charles
[LUTE] [lute] Re: learning thumb under technique
Dear All It's interesting to read the views of all who have discussed this subject recently but how far do anatomical differences in digit lengths and ease of wrist rotation affect whether TU or TO is easier to learn? Are there obvious anatomical hand differences between the exponents of either TU or TO? . I also wondered whether , for CGs, there was some correlation between the ease of sight -reading and difficulties in learning TU. A number of guitarists will learn French Tab on their guitar before they obtain a lute and so the scene is already set by the time they transfer to the lute. I certainly did this and I wonder now whether I should have learned Italian Tab during which I would have slowed down sufficiently to change my right hand.technique. As it is I play predominantly TO but admire those who play so elegantly TU. regards Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Feeding and Care
On 26/02/10 04:38, Edward C. Yong wrote: On 25 Feb 2010, at 11:39 PM, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote: Are you in contact with the maker? Hmm, I'm not - I should! Does anyone have Ian Harwood's contact? Thanks for the rest of the advice tho! Edward C. Yong ky...@pacific.net.sg To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ian Harwood is still president of The Lute Society and can be contacted via the website www.lutesoc.co.uk Charles
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Two Swedish lute mss?
wikla wrote: Dear baroque lutenists, I had e-mail contact to the people in the Kalmars läns museo, the Museum of the Kalmar county in Sweden. They have there a couple of very interesting baroque lute mss., KLM 21068 and KLM 21072, and they told me that these mss are nearly not documented of photographed at all! Stefan Lundgren published some of the very interesting contents of these mss already in the 80's. Does any of our kindest souls in the List have any inside info about these manuscrips? The museum kindly informed me also about the costs of photographing the material - about 60 euros per hour - there are some hundreds of pages - I don't know how effective the photographers are... ;-) One reason to my interest is also that in the days when these mss were written, Finland was a part of Sweden, and so in a way those mss were written in my country of those days... ;-) You can find kind of description of one of those two mss in a page of the museum: http://www.kalmarlansmuseum.se/1/1.0.1.0/51/1/?item=art_art-s1/1412group=art_art_grp-s1/38 It is in Swedish, but aren't all the Indo-European languages more or less related... ;-) best, Arto To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html It is worth looking at Kenneth Sparr's website: - www.tablatura.com. There is an article on the two Kalmar Mss as well as other articles on lute music in Sweden. The articles are in swedish with an english summary. regards Charles
[LUTE] Re: Manchester Gamba Book
Andreas Schlegel wrote: If you read german, you can go to this link: http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Abhandlung/Accords/Accords.html There is a tuning database (PDFs) for lute, lyra viol, mandore and guitar - and of course the information about the ffeff-system! Enjoy it! Andreas Am 16.11.2009 um 21:25 schrieb Steve Ramey: OK, I'll bite and display my hopeless ignorance, as well. What's an ffeff lute??? Steve __ From: Richard Yates rich...@yatesguitar.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 3:13:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Manchester Gamba Book I have been burrowing through the Manchester Gamba Book for a while and arranged 25 of the pieces for Renaissance Lute. Although they were composed for lyra-viol in many different tunings, they work pretty well in ffeff. Some of the authors and many of the pieces are unknown from aside from this manuscript. The link to download the file (250KB) is at the top of this page: [1]http://www.yatesguitar.com/lute/lute.html To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.yatesguitar.com/lute/lute.html 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html Andreas Schlegel Eckstr. 6 CH-5737 Menziken +41 (0)62 771 47 07 lute.cor...@sunrise.ch or,of course you can use the Google toolbar and translate the page into english. It may not be perfectly translated but the meanings are clear enough! Charles
[LUTE] Re: Christmas music for R-lute
David van Ooijen wrote: Sorry, it has come up before, but by the time I understand the archives Christmas is well-passed. If memory serves, the news letters of the LSA, British Lute Society and Dutch Lute Society all have had a collection of easy Christmas music for Renaissance lute at one time or another. Which issues, anybody knows? or other sources? It's for a pupil. thanks in advance David LSA Vol XXXIX No 4 November2004 Winter Holiday Music Issue Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Thomas Campion
ariel abramovich wrote: Dear friends, I'm desperately looking for Thomas Campion 4th books, in any digital format. I bought all others, but the 4th seems to be a bit of a problem to find. Any link to some library files? Thanks in advance! all best, ariel. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html try Sarge Gerbode's site www.gerbode.net. You will find book 4 there best of luck Charles
[LUTE] Re: Welcome to the Lute mailing list!
Daniel F Heiman wrote: Anton: The Siena Lute Book is available in facsimile, published by Minkoff: http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/minkoff.pdf Purchase information here: http://www.omifacsimiles.com/contactomi.html Regards, Daniel Heiman On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:39:05 +0200 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Anton_H=F6ger?= diwa-animat...@t-online.de writes: Hello, this is my first posting: where can I find the 4 modis of “Spagna detta Lamire” from the Siena Lutebook? Many thanks in advance Anton To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Anton, I think Jason Kortis entabulated most,if not all the Siena Lute book into French Tab and it was on the Fronimo site (Yahoo groups). regards Charles Browne
[LUTE] Re: Lute] playing the lute during a Communion Service
many thanks to all who answered my queries about playing the lute during Communion. We had a service for all four parishes this morning but as the weather fine and the clocks had just 'gone forward' to summer - time we didn't have a big congregation! I prepared some d'Aquila and Milano but,in the end, I played a prelude by Mertel and two duos by Valderrabano which seemed to fit the occasion. I wasn't sure how my 8c would cope with a cold church but tuning remained within 5 cents of the initial tuning through out. All in all , it was a very worthwhile experience! many thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute] playing the lute during a Communion Service
Edward Martin wrote: I have done this countless times, and it works out fine. As David suggested,. Vallet is a great choice. If you are playing a renaissance lute, I suggest fantasias by almost anyone. ed At 09:09 AM 3/23/2009 +, Charles Browne wrote: I have been asked to play my lute during part of the Communion Service as the congregation come to the Altar to receive The Eucharist. I am a bit dubious about this as I fear it might detract from the service, apart from any tuning difficulties. I would be grateful for any comments and advice thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2017 - Release Date: 03/22/09 17:51:00 Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202
[LUTE] [Lute] playing the lute during a Communion Service
I have been asked to play my lute during part of the Communion Service as the congregation come to the Altar to receive The Eucharist. I am a bit dubious about this as I fear it might detract from the service, apart from any tuning difficulties. I would be grateful for any comments and advice thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Advise needed about LUTE TUTOR for children
Anton Birula wrote: Dear List, My wife Anna and me are starting to encounter our little daughter Alisa with the lute. We got a great 7 course treble lute by Martin de Witte and it would be good to have some kind of book meant for children. Does anybody maybe know anything like this? Of course we can teach her somehow, but this kind of method is always very helpful. We will be thankful for any information. Sincerely , Anton Anna To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Dear Anton Stefan Lundgren produced two volumes called Kinderspiel a few years ago. There is a picture of a 5 year-old playing a lute in the preface. They might be what you are looking for. kind regards Charles
[LUTE] Re: two translation questions
howard posner wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:58 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: 'Te hee hee' is a giggle (perhaps slightly suppressed if it happens where laughing is appropriate) Like ho ho ho/LOL/LOLFTOL, or is there more to it? Ho ho ho is a full-bodied laugh, or belly laugh. Associated with large, jolly persons like Saint Nicholas and the Jolly Green Giant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxW1AZ_klVQ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Read Chaucer's The Miller's Tale 'Tehee' quod she and yclapt the wyndow to
[LUTE] restringing a double course with a single string
Dear All, what advice about string tension would you give,in general terms, to someone who wanted to replace a double course with a single string? A: for a course in unison - B: for a course in bass/octave tuning? thank you Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs - ruminations on lute sizes around 1600
Sean Smith wrote: History marches ever onward, Martyn. While I don't expect her to start a movement to change local standard pitch I see no reason not set G or A at whatever necessary to ensure the success of her concert. Loosening the tyranny of a standard pitch is well within our rights of historical practice. If I wrongly used your message as a springboard to state this then please accept my apologies for any ruffling of a plectrum feather. Sean On Feb 14, 2009, at 4:23 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Oh dear! - I took it as read that the reference to local pitch and national preferences did not require the pedantic adjective 'historic' as in historic local pitch.. MH --- On Sat, 14/2/09, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: From: Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Transposed Dowland songs - ruminations on lute sizes around 1600 To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Saturday, 14 February, 2009, 10:33 AM Clearly all this is subject to considerations of local pitch standards and national preferences... There you go. Proclaim A to be 392 (or 377) for the south eastern seaboard of the US and treat yourself to the nice new larger lute you so royally deserve. The Pavins sound lovely down a bit. Alternately you can put a few thicker strings on your current ax and get a new sound out of it. Sean To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- it's just (not) cricket!!
[LUTE] Re: meantone fret position measurements
Stuart Walsh wrote: David van Ooijen wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: Did someone once put up a calculator which which worked out fret positions, in meantone, for a given string length? Stuart It's not exactly a calculator, but it has a table with numbers to multiply string length with. http://home.planet.nl/~ooije006/david/writings/meantone_f.html David Thanks. That is just what I wanted. I thought there might be some intractable mathematical equations involved. I'm trying to calculate meantone fretting for an instrument of 43cms and even I can multiply by 43! Thanks again. Stuart No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1938 - Release Date: 02/06/09 11:31:00 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html There is a fret placement spreadsheet on the LSA website that will provide you with all the information without re-calculation. It will give fret positions for a number of temperaments/and string lengths it is worth looking at! Charles
[LUTE] Re: meantone fret position measurements
Stuart Walsh wrote: Charles Browne wrote: There is a fret placement spreadsheet on the LSA website that will provide you with all the information without re-calculation. It will give fret positions for a number of temperaments/and string lengths it is worth looking at! Charles Thanks. Found it and punched in the string length. Even easier than multiplying by 43. But - so much choice. Any advice on a temperament for second half of fifteenth century? Stuart No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 02/06/09 17:28:00 glad you found it! I wouldn't dare comment on temperament but I am sure that one of the experts can tell us? charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Sarge Gerbode web site
www.gerbode.net ps. your new CD is excellent! - Original Message - From: Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 11:32 PM Subject: [LUTE] Sarge Gerbode web site I have lost the link to Sarge Gerbode's web site of Fronimo files. Can someone please provide me the link? Thank you. ed Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: e...@gamutstrings.com voice: (218) 728-1202 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bach Telemann
Ron Fletcher wrote: On Jan 24, 2009, at 4:42 PM, David Tayler wrote: ...and the leather shoes that some insist on wearing, sigh. Why do so many people wear trainers? - Training for what? I do not own any trainers, - probably because I rarely wear jeans. Trainers go with nothing else, -unless you live in sportswear all day! I have no hang-ups about wearing leather shoes. They give a less slovenly appearance. If there were fewer omnivores, there would no doubt be less leather to go round. But until that day...Bach in Brogues! (Telemann in trainers?) Best Wishes Ron (UK) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html I thought that too, until I washed our paths with concentrated hypochlorite solution to kill the moss. The effect on my highly polished leather brogues was disastrous and my trousers were ruined! It's jeans and wellingtons from now on! Charles: Somewhere in the Valley of the Three Waters
[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier
damian dlugolecki wrote: G. Crona was kind enough to send a .jpg of the piece. At the moment this is only a guess, but I believe the 'tocsin' of Mouton and that of D. Gautier have something to do with disease. The word 'toxin' only come into the English language during the 19th century. My OED defines it originally as A specific poison...produced by a microbe which causes a particular disease.' By this perhaps we can infer that this was closer to the original French meaning than to our current understanding of the word 'toxin' as some kinde of poison. There were many diseases like typhus, smallpox, cholera etc. that wiped out large numbers of people. I need to find a French dictionary like my OED. My Larousse does not have historical meanings or etymologies. In any case, the pieces by Gautier and Mouton are very similar, and it seems to me that the Mouton piece is transposition to f#m of D. Gautier's piece in e minor. The repeated low 'B' has a funerary feeling to me anyway and it appears throughout Mouton's piece as a low C#. But even though it is possible these 'tocsins' were about disease, they are gigues and should be played at faster tempos. Played in the salons of Paris during recurrences of 'la Peste' they were perhaps demonstrations of musical 'black humor.' Damian The Livre de Tablature p.86-87 Goëss Théorbe 170-171 Are there general rules of performance for a French gigue in even metre like this one? I heard recordings of gigues by Froberger for the harpsichord (can't remember the performer) which were played extremely inegale, as though inegality was the major trait of gigues. Does the title (euqivalent to tocsin in modern French and English, I assume) indicate fast tempo? -- Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Tocsin is an alarm sounded by a bell f rom the Old French touquesain charles
[LUTE] Re: Good 2009
Orphenica wrote: To all crisis ridden vocal, flute and string players in the world, May you all (except Igor) master the coming year like he is doing in this video. With creativity, talent and not least, humor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU Pling we Ron Andrico schrieb: To All: In the spirit of the holidays, and because we were snowbound for a few days last week, we have added a few videos to our youtube page. The videos were an experiment with no enhancements, and some are from a live concert in honor of St. Lucy's Day, and the rest from our snowy home. Happy holidays to all. http://www.youtube.com/user/lutesongs Ron Andrico Donna Stewart www.mignarda.com __ Its the same Hotmail(R). If by same you mean up to 70% faster. [1]Get your account now. -- References 1. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_broad1_122008 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html it might have been better with gut stringing!
[LUTE] help wanted for correct pronounciation of Det hev ei rose sprunge
I am trying to get the correct norwegian pronounciation of this carol
before Monday. I would be grateful if some kind Norwegian with a recorder
could possibly send me a sound file, off list, of the spoken text of the
following:
Det hev ei rose sprunge,
ut av ei rot så grann
det hev ei rose sprunge,
ut av ei rot så grann,
fedrane hev sunge,
Av Isais rot ho rann,
og var ein blome
blid mit i den kalde vinter
ved mørke midnattstid
ved mørke midnattstid.
Om denna rosa eine,
er sagt Jesajas ord,
om denne rosa eine,
er sagt Jesajas ord,
Maria møy, den reine,
bar rosa til vår jord;
Og Herrens miskunns makt
det store under gjorde,
som var i spådom sagt.
with grateful thanks
Charles
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[LUTE] Re: Reusner and archlute/theorbo
G. Crona wrote: - Original Message - From: Jerzy Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Realy, highly recommended book, in many respects. I only cannot understand why from a list of topics, ranging from the earliest lute manuscripts to the 19th C. classical guitar, the German lute, including Weiss, his predecessors and the 18th C. followers was entirely untouched. A very puzling question to me, but perhaps symptomatic of that selective tendency. J There is of course always the problem with size. You can't cover everything. This has been the criticizm to all of the recent lute publications. History of the lute for not including the Baroque. Lute in England for not including Scotland. They probably felt the German Lute was too broad a subject, and deserved its own in-depth work. G. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html I thought there was some mention of the lute in Scotland in Matthew Spring's book! You have to bear in mind that the book arose out of a dissertation and was therefore circumscribed by the academic hierachy Charles
[LUTE] Re: Wound strings equivalent
Bruno Fournier wrote: Does anyone know the equivalent of the following woundPyramid strings but in SAVAREZ instead? 1007 1008 1009 1011 1015 1021 1023 1025 1027 I have ordered these strings from Pyramid, but they have not replied to me. Anyways, I've always preferred SAVAREZ...but I just don't know what the equivalent sizes would .. I'm thinking of either the copper wound silk or the copperwound gut ( which I've always really enjoyed) thx Bruno -- Bruno Cognyl-Fournier Luthiste, etc Estavel Ensemble de musique ancienne [1]www.estavel.org -- References 1. http://www.estavel.org/ To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html try this conversion chart which appeared some time ago Charles --
[LUTE] Re: more general scams
The number of scam/spam emails is increasing everyday. I get about 250 - 300 spam emails/day in my webmail filter and about half are some form of 'phishing'. There is also the ecard email. A message arrives by email to say that someone has sent you an electronic Card and invites you to reply. Don't! - it may be either 'phishing' or it may be a Trojan. I also run a website for our church benefice and we recently received an email from The Ivory Coast? purporting to be from a recently widowed lady whose husband had left 2.5 M USD and who wanted to donate it to a charity but we had to reply quickly otherwise the money would be offered elsewhere. The money resides in a bank in Africa. We suppose it to be a scam as we have no safe way of finding out. Most of these scams rely on the recipients making snap decisions because the 'offer' is too good to miss. A moment's reflection will usually be enough to convince you otherwise! Charles -Original Message- From: gary digman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2008 08:19 To: lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams I have not received the UPS thing, but I get emails which are phishing attempts by individuals purporting to be PayPal. I have forwarded these emails to PayPal and they have confirmed that the emails are indeed attempts at phishing. Do not exhange personal information on the internet unless you now whose on the other end, and, even then, be very, very careful. Anthony, I would suggest that you go to a public computer (library, university, etc) to open the email. If it's a scam, you will know very soon and your personal computer will be safe from any viruses. Gary - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Guy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: more general scams This is not the same issue, but like many of you, no doubt, I have received several offers to share with a Nigerian banker the profits of a person who has just died intestate. Of course I didn't fall for that. However, a week ago I received a message purporting to be from UPS about an undelivered parcel, and there is an attachment to click on, and I am told this includes a form for details I need to fill-in to be able to receive this parcel. Now this time, I very nearly clicked on the attachment, thinking perhaps some lute strings, I had forgotten I had ordered, had just arrived. However, something about it made me hesitate, I may be wrong and it may be valid, but I think it is a clever new scam to get personal details, or to spread a virus. Have any of you received a similar message purporting to be from UPS. Anthony Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Guy Smith a écrit : If you are selling an instrument over the internet, watch out for the Nigerian scam (they'll offer to send you considerably more than the purchase price and you are to send the extra back...). I got one of these in response to an ad for a tandem bicycle that I'm trying to sell, and I advertised only on a private mailing list. I've heard of several other similar incidents with tandems, and I imagine they could target lutes as well. Guy -Original Message- From: Wayne Cripps [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 8:26 AM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] baroque guitar scam Hi folks - You probably know that I run a lutes for sale web page. at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html . I just got the first for sale scam - at least it seems like a scam to me.. I am Brad Baker.I came accross your wanted advert and email address on http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute/forsale.html#wanted I would like to inform you that i have 5 course baroque guitar For Sale @ 1,400 Euro(Give Away Price)including shipping to your front door in Finland via Courier express delivery.The price of this lutes are more than 2,500 euro.You can't get it this price(1,400 euro)anywhere.Hurry up now,this is give away price.Buy one and get one free Nokia mobile phone. Maybe I am wrong... maybe many respected luthiers are now supplying free cell phones with their usual merchandise.. but I would suggest that you be careful with any internet transactions with strangers. You can see the instruments at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/ lute/Baker/ There seem to be two different pairs of guitars and a fifth by itself. Maybe one of them is yours! Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1599 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 8:49 PM
[LUTE] Re: wound strings in 120 CM length
if you look on The Lute Society site there is a page on stringing that has the URLs of the usual string makers. http://www.lutesoc.co.uk/lutestringing.htm -Original Message- From: Bruno Fournier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2008 16:23 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] wound strings in 120 CM length Can anyone give me the address of Pyramid and any other string supplier that would have strings in lengths of 120 cm or more. I have just finished modifying one of my old lutes into a small theorbized lute (tiorbino) but not small enough to accept my standard wound strings. thx -- Bruno Cognyl-Fournier Luthiste, etc Estavel Ensemble de musique ancienne www.estavel.org -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.
I have no idea what software the printers use suffice to ay they are a
commercial outfit and certainly the screen output looked completely normal.
The PDFs were not compressed but were amalgamated using PDF995 suite.I could
understand it better if all the printed output was corrupt but many pages
were normal, I doubt whether the firm will want to talk to me again!
CH
-Original Message-
From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 July 2008 10:22
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.
What software?
Are you using press output in the settings?
Backwards compatibility turned on?
Compression turned off for fonts and graphics?
dt
At 12:07 PM 6/30/2008, you wrote:
Dear All,
I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get
printed professionally. I checked each file (68) using both Acrobat and
pdf995Edit and gsview. They were fine. I then amalgamated then into four
PDFs checked again and sent them by email to the printers. The output was
wrong with a number of pages and I can only assume that fonts were being
substituted as the tablature lines were correct but the tablature glyphs
had
been replaced by punctuation marks. The printer's computer screen showed
the
files correctly. The manager said that this had never happened before and
they print off thousands of PDFs. I cannot explain it . Document info shows
that the Django fonts are embedded. I have printed these files before and
were it not for the 'fiddle' of binding them I would do it again. Can
anybody ell me what the problem is?
Thanks
Charles
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[LUTE] Re: PDFprinting problems.
Dear All,
I downloaded some PDF files of The Weiss London Ms which I wanted to get
printed professionally. I checked each file (68) using both Acrobat and
pdf995Edit and gsview. They were fine. I then amalgamated then into four
PDFs checked again and sent them by email to the printers. The output was
wrong with a number of pages and I can only assume that fonts were being
substituted as the tablature lines were correct but the tablature glyphs had
been replaced by punctuation marks. The printer's computer screen showed the
files correctly. The manager said that this had never happened before and
they print off thousands of PDFs. I cannot explain it . Document info shows
that the Django fonts are embedded. I have printed these files before and
were it not for the 'fiddle' of binding them I would do it again. Can
anybody ell me what the problem is?
Thanks
Charles
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[LUTE] Re: The London Manuscript
Neil, It has been intabulated by Daniel Forget in Django and pdf format This is the site http://pagesperso-orange.fr/jdf.luth/ . It is something like 320 pages of tablature Charles -Original Message- From: Narada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2008 19:39 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] The London Manuscript Greetings, I've just listened to vol 3 of this work, amazing stuff. Is any of it available as Fronimo files? Regards N -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Jerusalem
Dear All,
has anyone a version of Jerusalem that is playable on a lute/archlute?
thanks
Charles
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[LUTE] Re: Fine Knacks for Ladies Fronimo Tab?
try http://www.gerbode.net/ -Original Message- From: Daniel Stachowiak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2008 09:41 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Fine Knacks for Ladies Fronimo Tab? Hello Everybody, Does anyone happen to have Dowland's Fine Knacks for Ladies in Fronimo Tab? I need to accompany a countertenor and the original Key in F is to high for him. If I can get a fronimo tab of it I could easily automatically transpose it a tone or two lower. Thanks, Daniel. _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: two intabulations
Dear Manolo, according to Dick Hoban's The Art of the Lute in renaissance Italy the first is an intabulation of a vocal piece by da Crema 1546(Vol 3: Intabulations) and the second is by da Crema (Vol 2:Dances) as well. best wishes Charles -Original Message- From: Manolo Laguillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 May 2008 22:31 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] two intabulations Dear lutelisters, I have the photocopies of two pieces in italian tabulature, both facsmiles, same aspect: Et don bon soir (this is a chanson) Sal ditto el Giorgio (this is a... saltarello, obviously) but no idea about where they come from (book, intabulator...) Can somebody help me? Thank you very much! Saludos from Barcelona, Manolo Laguillo -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute Performance on DVD
Dear Neil, have you looked at youtube at all? Admittedly, the picture quality is not that brilliant but there are quite a few lute videos to be seen. Also, isn't Martin Eastwell performing at York fairly soon? and, I think Philip Macleod Coupe is giving a lecture-recital at Higham Hall in July and ,of course, the Lute Society weekend takes place in September at Whitby. I accept that Higham Hall is actually in Cumbria and I suspcct that Whitby is East Yorks. but you get the idea! regards Charles -Original Message- From: Narada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2008 19:47 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Lute Performance on DVD Greetings all, Can anyone point me in the right direction of sources for purchasing Lute performances on DVD ( region 2 ). Amazon seem bereft of such things and it would be nice to see a lute played rather than just hearing it. Live Lute concerts are very rare here in West Yorkshire. The last one was at Leeds Uni just over 12 months ago and it didn't last very long. Regards Neil -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Hurel download
Dear Stewart, the URL of the Thomas Robinson pdf was truncated and will not get the right page. Try: http://amphionconsort.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/theschoolofmus icke.pdf Charles -Original Message- From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 March 2008 18:56 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] Hurel download In looking for Hurel, I stumbled across a complete facsimile of Thomas Robinson at http://amphionconsort.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/theschoole ofmusicke.pdf Stewart McCoy. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Whew what a corker
What about the scarifier-lute? here is a sample: http://www.collinscompany.com/mall/ClayCourts.asp -Original Message- From: Ron Fletcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2008 12:58 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Whew what a corker Caulking is the process of wedging old rope fibres (oakum), and tar between the planking of old sailing ships. I have not heard the name luter applied to the dockyard worker who does this. My maritime dictionary does have Lute heads...in trawler fishing! The iron frames at each end of the trawl beam on which the entire net is dragged along the bottom The planking of a (carvel-built) ship is similar to the construction of a lute bowl, so maybe the term luter has been used at some time. What a resource of information? - and not too far off topic! Ron (UK) -Original Message- From: David Tayler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 5:58 AM To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Etymology In the 50s, 60s and 70s lutanist was common, now lutenist is more common; they are both correct as far as both modern and historical use. I don't usually hyphenate lute player, except as an attributive (lute-player leftovers, etc) but that is taste. Anyway it can't be luteplayer, except in email. W00t! Lute player is slightly less formal. Lutist is used less often, but more than luter. Luter also means someone who applies caulk or sealant, (possibly related to gluing?) The internal extra syllable may form the cosy diminutive, as in Ach Elslein, liebes Elselein, but that is speculation. Also, there is the classy but archaic nominative attributive, lute As in the King's luttes Or the Queen's luttes The terms are traditionally context dependent A program might read on the front page Max Planck, lute yet in the Bio read Lutanist Max Planck began as an unpaid private lecturer in Munich. An apposite epithet is also used Max Planck, lute, enjoyed many evenings of fine music at the home of Helmholtz. Of course Max really played the keyboard cello, presumably with gut strings. The term lute has often and widely been misrepresented as meaning wood. The mediaeval Arabic means twig or bent stick and this could refer to the plectrum, similar to the way the terms percussion refers to the way the instrument is played, or fiddler refers to the action of playing. It could refer as well to the bending of the wood, as luter later refers to the process of gluing. dt At 03:43 AM 3/4/2008, you wrote: I small question. To describe a person playing the lute, I've come across: Lutenist Lutist Lutanist Lute-player Which is (are) the correct one (s)? All of them? G. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Etymology
Ian Harwood (The Lute Vol 37 -1997) argued that only those who compose for the lute can call themselves lutenists and if you only play the instrment you are a lute-player. Charles -Original Message- From: Rob MacKillop [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 12:56 To: G. Crona Cc: Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Etymology And Lutar is Scots... Rob On 04/03/2008, G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I small question. To describe a person playing the lute, I've come across: Lutenist Lutist Lutanist Lute-player Which is (are) the correct one (s)? All of them? G. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Etymology
It is worth reading his article. -Original Message- From: Andrew Gibbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 March 2008 13:26 To: Charles Browne Cc: Lute Net Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Etymology I haven't heard that distinction applied to any other musical instrument... Andrew On 4 Mar 2008, at 13:08, Charles Browne wrote: Ian Harwood (The Lute Vol 37 -1997) argued that only those who compose for the lute can call themselves lutenists and if you only play the instrment you are a lute-player. Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Aimez-vous harpsichord musique?
A beautiful piece, beautifully played. Is the transcription available? Charles -Original Message- From: Daniel Shoskes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 January 2008 16:24 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Aimez-vous harpsichord musique? My homage to Claire Antonini's transcription of a sarabande by de Chambonnieres. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoZcVSQHQoA -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Diagram of tendons.
there is a sheath of connective tissue that covers the back of the hand and into the back of the fingers which limits independent flexion of the fingers, mainly the Ring and Little fingers (4th and 5th) at the first metacarpo-phalangeal joint or 'knuckle'I tried to find a diagram online but failed ! Charles -Original Message- From: Herbert Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2007 17:36 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Diagram of tendons. Sometimes I hear that the ring finger shares tendons with its neighbors, so that no level of technique can achieve perfect indepdence of fingers. I've never seen a good diagram showing exactly how this works. For example, I don't know whether the sharing occurs for the flexor tendons, the extensor tendons, both, or neither. Indeed, there must be more than two tendons per finger, because the fingers can move sideways also. I spent about 15 minutes Googling the subject, but the drawings were not useful, because they did not resolve the spaghetti-like nature of the overall mechanism (tendons, sheaths, pulleys, hoods, joints, etc). Does anyone know of a schematic-type drawing, which shows the mechanical relationships clearly, at the expense of realistic pictorial depiction? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lauffensteiner
They were available on the Fronimo site. Both ensemble and solo works.I haven't checked recently but I think? they were intabulations by Doug Towne? There is,or was, an Edition of Academische Druck- u.Verlagsanstalt under the series title Musik Alter Meister (1975 - General Editor Hans Radke) and Vol 30 contained two preludes and five suites of Lauffensteiner. best wishes Charles -Original Message- From: David Rastall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 December 2007 04:22 To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Lauffensteiner Dear Wisdom, I've been looking for an edition of the works of Wolff Jacob Lauffensteiner, but without success. I know an edition exists out there somewhere, because I used to have a copy, but somehow mislaid it. Does anyone know where that edition exists, or how I can find his music? I'm not looking for a freebie (except of course if one is available...). ;-) David R [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new sound file for 11c
Dear Martin, I think I got my copy from Jacks,Pipes and Hammers about 2 - 3 years ago. Brian Jordan might also be worth a try. best wishes Charles -Original Message- From: Martin Shepherd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2007 13:04 To: baroque lutenet Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new sound file for 11c Dear Luca, The relevant quotes from Burwell are in my essay on Rob's site: www.rmguitar.info/Maler.htm A facsimile of the book was printed by Boethius Press but is probably now out of print - can anyone advise? The author of the Burwell lute tutor is thought to have been John Rogers, who is thought to have been a pupil of Ennemond Gaultier. Best wishes, Martin Luca Manassero wrote: Dear Martin, all this sounds very, very interesting. Are you aware of a site where I could get the Mary Burwell on-line? Many thanks, Luca Martin Shepherd on 14-12-2007 13:12 wrote: Dear Chris, The author of the Burwell tutor is quite clear. He says the French masters first adopted a twelve course lute, then returned to an 11c, keeping only the small eleventh because the sound of the low octave on the 11th is too big and smothers the sound of the other strings. He also explains how you can then play a C on the open 11th instead of having to finger it at the third fret of the sixth course. You're right about the single 11th being the high octave, not the lower - Burwell says it should be between the 5th and 6th in size. Later authors clearly used both strings, Mouton for instance indicates where they are to be played separately. Best wishes, Martin P.S. I do think the single 2nd course arises from conversion of a 10c lute - it means you only need one more peg for the 11c version, which you can get by adding a treble rider. So no need to make a new pegbox! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the idea of the single 11th course was possibly transitional - to make a 10c into an 11c set up with single second course, leaving another single for the 11th. My understanding was that this 11th course was an 8ve and not a bordon. Cheers Chris Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thanks Theo and Anthony, Yes, these gimped strings are new to me, the Pistoys too. So it's not just a case of getting used to 11 courses and new repertoire, but new strings also. I will doubtless experiment a bit over time, but gut basses are expensive! I'd love to hear your Andy Rutherford 11c, Theo, and Anthony's Gottlieb when it arrives. Mary Burwell said the French fashion was for a single 11th course - I might try that with a thicker fundamental. I'm probably finished recording for the moment, but might take you up on the idea of recording the same piece in a couple of months, just to see what differences there are. Rob www.rmguitar.info -Original Message- From: T. Diehl-Peshkur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 December 2007 10:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new sound file for 11c Hi Rob, Thanks for the link, very nice! From my own experience, I picked up my Andy Rutherford 11 course about a 2 months ago, all gut, with gimped basses from Larson. The basses developed quite dramatically in the first few month- especially after working on them vigorously for some time. I think it is a combination of the string developing as well as the soundboard. My suspicion is that in about a month or two, those basses of yours are going to be quite different. It would be fun to record the same piece again at that time to see what happens! Cheers, Theo From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:19:14 - To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] new sound file for 11c I've made an mp3 of the Chaconne in Am by de Visee with my right hand little finger resting on the bridge. This technique is depicted in a number of paintings and seems to work well with all-gut strings. I once tried it on a lute strung in nylon and it sounded quite poor. I think it works well with gut, so might try to adopt it as my 11c technique. On the other hand (not literally) the famous painting/engraving of Mouton has his hand a little further from the bridge with little finger on the sound board, but still nowhere near the rose. The gimped strings seem to have settled. Here it is: http://www.rmguitar.info/Maler.htm - scroll to the bottom of the page. Man, I love this lute! Please excuse all this sudden enthusiasm! Rob www.rmguitar.info -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] standing position for playing
Dear All, I was fascinated to watch Andrew Maginley at the recent Lute Society meeting as he played the baroque lute while standing. I have been trying this over the last two weeks with an archlute and a swanneck baroque lute and it is quite an interesting experience. I have found it much easier than I thought although the low ceiling in our cottage now has pockmarks all over! The archlute is easier to hold than the baroque lute due, in part, to the relative shallowness of the archlute bowl. The lute strap has a short 'tail' on which I usually sit and I tuck this end through a belt-loop on my trousers. The physical balance is easier to maintain and I do not feel so stiff after playing, presumably because I am standing upright and can move a little. Could these callisthenics be regarded as 'Playing a short exercise? No, perhaps not! I wondered whether there are others who have converted from the sitting position and who observations about their own experiences? best wishes Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: FoMRHI - copyright and a rebirth?
if the image is on another site, presumably it is there to be viewed ,if not downloaded? The first person to ask would be the webmaster(s) of the relevant sites. They may be delighted to have further links to their site(s) and may have already ensured that any copyright protection is embedded in the image so that any copy would be useless commercially. It is an interestig question to pursue further. regards /charles -Original Message- From: Anthony Hind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 November 2007 19:20 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Subject: [LUTE] Re: FoMRHI - copyright and a rebirth? Howard, or any one else I was just wondering what the legal situation is about putting a link to a Jpeg, of a painting including a lute, when the photo on the site has a copyright symbol on it. Can linking your explanation to a photo that is copyrighted infringe the photographer's rights, or the persons running the site's rights? Is this different from actually including that JPeg in your message? Are both acts legally acceptable, in fact? I assume that paintings are not like written texts that lose their copyright after a fixed time (at least the content of the text). I suppose the owner of a painting has rights beyond any fixed time. Indeed, I suppose that is true for the manuscript, rather than for its written content. Thus we can quote Burwell, for example, but possibly not put in a photograph of part of the actual manuscript. In the case of a painting, I suppose there just cannot be that differnciation between content and the the actual painting. Does any one know about this? My question might seem a little bizarre, but how about a link to the engraving of Jacques Gaultier that belongs to the RA. They sell copies of this, and so might be nervous of such a link, at the same time, they could also be happy for an advertisement, through the link, but that does not relate to the legal issue. Perhaps, I should not ask the question, as may be it would be best for the issue to be left in the dark? Regards Anthony Le 20 nov. 07 à 16:30, howard posner a écrit : On Nov 20, 2007, at 2:24 AM, Stuart Walsh wrote: Martyn Hodgson wrote: Following recent communications which mentioned FoMRHI, I contacted Eph Segerman and include the relevant part of his reply below. In short, anything in FoMRHI not specifcally restricted as detailed below seems to be able to be freely reproduced and circulated. MH Ephraim Segerman wrote: Subject: Re: Fwd: FoMRHI From: Ephraim Segerman To: Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 00:36:22 + All one needs to copyright something that is written is to print the symbol of a C inside a circle. A few contributors to FoMRHI have retained their copyright by doing this, but the vast majority have not. FoMRHI has never claimed copyright on anything it published. So, except for the few copyrighted Comms, all FoMRHI stuff can be duplicated and circulated. There is now a movement to revive FoMRHI, which involves action by the Fellows. Yours, Eph I'm note sure Eph is right here. See: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/protect/protect-should/protect-should-copy.htm As I understand it, copyright (in UK) is yours just if you've written (or created) something original. Putting a C inside a circle just makes things a bit clearer - but still, if you've written something original, you have copyright (in UK anyway). Also pretty much the case in the US; an original work is automatically copyrighted until some years (I think it's now 75) after the author's death. What Eph wrote would have been half right 30 years ago in the States, I think it qualifies as misinformation throughout Europe. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Is it true?
A lot of lute music is written for 6c lutes so after tuning down the 3rd guitar string to F# you have the same relative tuning as a 'g' lute albeit lower by a third. There is a very large corpus of 6c lute music. If you want to play later lute music on a 6 stringed instrument there are problems of arrangement and/or transcription that might make playing more difficult on an instrument with fewer strings. Quite often the lower courses on a 10/11 course lute are played 'open' and do not always require fingering. If you re-arrange those bass notes in a higher register your fingers will be very busy. There are many guitarists who have learned to play from tablature by first playing on a re-tuned guitarand if you just want to play occasional renaissance lute music that is a very good way to do it. Be careful! you might get hooked!! best wishes Charles -Original Message- From: Joshua E. Horn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2007 05:38 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Is it true? Is it true that most lute music can be played on guitar if you retune the g string? -- Joshua E. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - One of many happy users: http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/quotes.html To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re:
the Spanish Guitar Centre in London used to sell a packet of three grades of fine emery paper.They are french called TLP . I have just found an old packet and on he back it saysTLP distribution DIAM 78360 Montesson I am sure there are many similar packets. I hope that helps /charles -Original Message- From: H.L. Pakker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2007 13:58 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Hi, A lot of you will know John Sutherland's nail polish set, existing of a piece of rubber and three pieces of polishing paper (grades 2400, 4000,12000). I am looking for a replacement of the polishing papers, since they are quite expensive (i.e that counts for me). Suggestions are welcome. HP -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re:
further my earlier reply, the Spanish Guitar Centre in nottingham sells by mail order and has packets of polishing paper for £4.50 (approx 6) Here is the email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charles -Original Message- From: H.L. Pakker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 November 2007 16:33 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Edward Martin Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: I believe he is a classical guitarist. Look at http://www.guitarrabuena.nl/webwinkel_product/771 for a (Dutch) desctiption. (it is a real good system - my opinion - but I don't want to pay every time euro 17,95) Henk - Original Message - From: Edward Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: H.L. Pakker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] I have never heard of John Sutherland's nail polish set. Is he a lutenist? Although my nails are very short, I still make them smooth by using a diamond file for my right hand, and if I want more smoothness, I will use standard 600 wet or dry sandpaper. ed At 02:58 PM 11/11/2007 +0100, H.L. Pakker wrote: Hi, A lot of you will know John Sutherland's nail polish set, existing of a piece of rubber and three pieces of polishing paper (grades 2400, 4000,12000). I am looking for a replacement of the polishing papers, since they are quite expensive (i.e that counts for me). Suggestions are welcome. HP -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 3:47 PM Edward Martin 2817 East 2nd Street Duluth, Minnesota 55812 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voice: (218) 728-1202 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 10-11-2007 15:47
[LUTE] Re: Ok guys...need your help (again...)
in the absence of Sage Gerbode's site, try Richard Civiol's Luth-Librairie. http://luthlibrairie.free.fr/?Renaissance:Fran%26ccedil%3Baise there are 17 songs fron the First book of Ayres online in PDF Charles -Original Message- From: Omer katzir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 November 2007 17:59 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Ok guys...need your help (again...) I cant find any of campions song's with tabs, i can buy them, but it's a problem for me to read facsimile (i cant see that good... unless it's really good quality) so what i need is a good website with the songs+tabs, or good source for ordering them, if it facsimile, so it must be high quality. I need to four books, with tabs for lute (really...), website will be much better becuase i have no money in my lute case :-( after that, I'll go on to dowland... Thank you all good night and may the great cat bless your lute To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Persephone
Serge Gerbode site has all the Campion songs www.gerbode.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 November 2007 00:53 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Persephone Sean wrote: How about Harke all you ladies that do sleep The fairy queen Proserpina bids you awake and pite them that weep, You may do in the dark what the day doth forbid, Fear not the dogs that bark; night will have all hid. #19 in the Rosseter/Campion book, 1601 Thank you Sean. Is there a current publication of this book? Or a facsimile? Craig To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Lute book lullaby for SATB
Dear Daniel, yes, I am interested in the Geoffrey Shaw arrangement which is slightly different to the version that I have. It will probably extend my skill at intabulation to the limit if I tried this version -hence the query! best wishes Charles -Original Message- From: Daniel F Heiman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 October 2007 03:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute book lullaby for SATB Rainer: I know of at least two pieces that have been called Lute-Book Lullaby. Both are found in the Willam Ballet Lute Book (Dublin, Trinity College BM, Add. 17786-91). One is for 5 voices or viols. The other has been arranged for 4 voices by Geoffrey Shaw and published as number 30 in The Oxford Book of Carols OUP, London, copyright 1928 and 1964. It is reproduced as number 34 in Carols for Choirs ed. R Jacques David Willcocks, OUP, London, copyright 1961. I assume the latter is the one of interest here. Daniel Heiman On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:29:19 +0100 Spring, aus dem, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the Lute-book lullaby ? Best wishes, Rainer aus dem Spring IS department, development Tel.:+49 211-5296-355 Fax.:+49 211-5296-405 SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Charles Browne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:20 PM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Lute book lullaby for SATB does anyone have a Fronimo/Django file of the Lute-book lullaby for SATB? I would be very grateful for a copy! thanks Charles browne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html CONFIDENTIALITY DISCLAIMER *** The information in this email and in any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy this message, delete any copies held on your systems and notify the sender immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this email for any purpose outside of any NDA currently existing between Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH and yourselves. Toshiba Electronics Europe GmbH Hansaallee 181- 40549 Düsseldorf Handelsregister Düsseldorf HRB 22487 Geschäftsführer: Ryoichi Shikama Amtsgericht Düsseldorf
[LUTE] Lute book lullaby for SATB
does anyone have a Fronimo/Django file of the Lute-book lullaby for SATB? I would be very grateful for a copy! thanks Charles browne To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Looking for new tuner + computers
I prefer the VSAM at home because the strobe is very clear for tuning. It also has a very loud sound if you want to tune by ear. I keep on dropping the smaller tuners and the rubber boot on the VSAM certainly protects the tuner. I am not so sure about my toes though . The main difficulty about the VSAM is size and weight so it doesnt go in the instrument case easily. The Korg OT12 is very handy. The case is not resistant to my charms and the screen is getting very difficult to read following several disasters. As peg technology improves and geared lute pegs make their appearance perhaps we will have auto-tuning pegs containing nano-motors and wireless receivers that respond to reference signals sent out with the time signals.! Ah well, back to te meter again Charles -Original Message- From: Ed Durbrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2007 21:58 To: Charles Browne; LuteNet list Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Looking for new tuner + computers Which tuner did you prefer? On Oct 15, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Charles Browne wrote: I have used the Schaller 'Oyster' for some time with various tuners , inclusing the Korg OT12 and the Peterson VSAM II. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Looking for new tuner + computers
there is no? doubt that the pick-up is also very important when selecting a tuner. I have used the Schaller 'Oyster' for some time with various tuners , inclusing the Korg OT12 and the Peterson VSAM II. I use a bit of 'whitetack' to fix the pick-up to the body of the lute and this does not seem to damage the surface. The response is better IMHO than any of the other pick-ups. The 'Oyster' is a Chrome-encased piezo soundboard transducer with Ultra-high impedance. -Original Message- From: LGS-Europe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2007 12:56 To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Looking for new tuner + computers The nice thing about the Korg Orchestral the custom response curve--it works well on lute in medium setting and you can tune even in a wind tunnel with the clip mic. . As far as accuracy goes, the response curve is much more important than the accuracy rating. This makes the current model more accurate than the MT1200, which had a smaller drift. The Korg has 3 response curves. Good point. The MT-1200 does not always respond to the very low notes (not even with clip). Although, when you specify the octave it does get a lot better. I tend to use it mostly giving me notes. Better anyway, as our ears will always be the ultimate test for in-tuneness. My on-stage-while-the-orchestra-is-playing-tuner is the Korg AW-1. It's the size of a clip and can stay clipped on the lute, or out of sight on the music stand if you prefer to look 'authentic'. No risk of fly fishing scenes like with the clip-on mics with line to tuner. Cool machine: piezo as well as built-in mic. 410 to 480Hz. Only ET (it looks like ET), but it has a mark where the pure major third is. David David van Ooijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.davidvanooijen.nl To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Test format Pegs
this is the URL that works. There are two character codes at the end of the first line that can easily be removed with a text editor. http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical%20pegs/?actio n=viewcurrent=LuteReamingHoles.jpg Charles -Original Message- From: Anthony Hind [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2007 17:07 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Net Subject: [LUTE] Test format Pegs I don't know whether these photos can be viewed. I am just sending this having changed one setting on my mail programme to see if it makes any difference. Making the holes http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical% 20pegs/?action=viewcurrent=LuteReamingHoles.jpg Completed pegs http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/ag-no3phile/Mechanical% 20pegs/?action=viewcurrent=LutePeghedComplete.jpg Regards Anthony To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Pilkington
try www.gerbode.net. There are 8 or 9 pieces under Pilkington. The Lute Society newsletter no 69 had ,in its music supplement, the Collected Lute music of francis Pilkington Charles -Original Message- From: Eduardo Hayashi Magagnin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 August 2007 02:22 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Pilkington I need urgent works about Francis Pilkington. Has somebody anything about this? Thanks Eduardo Hayashi -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Nigel on YouTube
The Lute Society Newsletter for December 2003 (no 68) has an article by Christopher Goodwin on some recent Dowland discoveries. There are some references to 'solus cum Sola' . The meaning is given as 'a man alone with a woman alone'. The article is well-worth reading ! Charles Browne -Original Message- From: Taco Walstra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 July 2007 09:24 To: Eric Crouch; lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Nigel on YouTube On Thursday 19 July 2007 09:28, Eric Crouch rattled on the keyboard: Can anyone explain the meaning of the title 'Solus cum Sola' and the next piece in Poulton 'Solus sine Sola'? Eric Crouch Hi, the easy answer is 'the mail and the female alone' as the meaning of the first, but that doesn't say much. Point is where the title comes from. I read an explanation a long time ago that it came from a well-known book in Elizabethan times which had something to do with a lover trying to get into a bedroom of a girl. Don't know the details anymore. It was different from Poulton's explanation which is doubted (she thought it had to do with a reference to a philosopers text if I remember well). Sorry not any details, but perhaps somebody knows more about it. taco On 18 Jul 2007, at 22:47, Jim Abraham wrote: The longer one is Solus cum sola, Poulton #10. On 7/18/07, Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may have been answered already: which piece exactly is Nigel playing? Alain Ed Durbrow wrote: Thanks for posting this. Wonderful. Very interesting how he is so free with his right arm. On Jul 8, 2007, at 12:22 AM, DANIEL SHOSKES wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qIigZZb4ME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXb3zih2umw To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ -- -- University of Amsterdam, Faculty of Science Drs. T.R. Walstra Valckenierstraat 65 1018 XE Amsterdam, The Netherlands Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 0031-20-5255730 Web: http://staff.science.uva.nl/~walstra
[LUTE] zero volume MP3 files
Dear all has anyone made any zero volume spacer files in MP3 format that they would be willing to share? I am trying to put some pauses in a continuous loop playlist that has no means of separating items on the list, apart from inserting MP3 files with zero volume but with defined times eg 2/5/10 minutes? many thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Carbon strings
Dear colleagues, I have three carbon strings, at least I had three, marked No.6, No.8 and No, 10. Presumably these were from reels of fishing line. Is there a standard relationship between this type of numbering and string diameter? thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: To end all Lute Chord Confusion
I wonder which politician you would name that after? Charles -Original Message- From: Stewart McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2007 16:52 To: Lute Net Subject: [LUTE] To end all Lute Chord Confusion Dear David, Not half as difficult as Dutch typed fast, or Japanese for that matter. In answering Neil's initial question by supplying a list of chords for the lute, one can see why there must be better ways of approaching the lute other than solely through chord shapes. I particularly liked the chords with seven flats in the key signature, i.e. what you get when you drop a grand piano down a pit shaft. Best wishes, Stewart McCoy. - Original Message - From: LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: to end all Lute Chord Confusion music bottom of the page, a chord chart with two alternative sheapes for Sorry, plural of sheep is sheep, I know that. Let alone shape and shapes. English typed fast is difficult. David David - haste job, so corrections are welcome ;-) Told you so ... To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] 2 questions
does anyone have lute accompaniments to 1.My spirit longs for Thee by John Dowland and 2. Palestrina O bone Jesu for SATB. Both are available in staff notation but if anyone has already done the intabulations and were willing to share them I would be most grateful! thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Anthony Rooley's Lute Lessons
Dear Bruce I dont know about this recording but if you are looking for easy music with an associated CD the Lute Society produces one: 58 Very Easy Pieces for Renaissance Lute NOW WITH CD edited by Christopher Goodwin, John H. Robinson, and Jeanne Fisher, with left-hand fingerings by Lynda Sayce. 58 very easy pieces for 6-course lute, in a variety of styles, chosen from English, and Italian sources, approximately graded in order of difficulty for the beginner, or those wanting something genuinely easy to play, for a change! 40 pages. The accompanying CD, Blame not my Lute, recorded by Jacob Heringman, is also available as a download, with free try-before-you-buy option, at www.magnatune.com ISBN 0 905655 22 2 Members: £8 / $14 /E12 non-members: £10 /$18 / E15 Postage: Band B Book alone without CD, members: £5 / US $9 / E7.50 non-members: £7 /$12.50/E10.5 Postage: Band B regards Charles -Original Message- From: Bruce O. Bowes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 April 2007 14:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Anthony Rooley's Lute Lessons I have been given a copy of A new varietie of Lute Lessons and I notice that it was originally published ( would you believe in 1975 ) with an LP. Does any one know if the LP ever made it into either a tape or cd? It would be wonderful if I could obtain a copy of it for it goes along with the lessons in the book. Thank you Bruce O. Bowes -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] intabulations of God so loved the world and Ah holy Jesu, how hast thou offended
I am looking for intabulations of God so loved the world - for four voices, and Ah Holy Jesu, how hast though offended by Cruger - for four voices, for archlute. If any one has these pieces intabulated and is willing to share them I would be most grateful thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] interpretation of arpeggiated chords in Weiss sonatas
I enjoyed watching, and listening to, Daniel Shoskes playing the prelude from the Sonata no 13 of the Weiss London MS on Youtube. I wondered whether there are any written performance 'suggestions' for playing Weiss's arpeggiated chords or whether this is an individual choice at the time of preparation. I have read Michel Cardin's analysis of the London Ms with great interest but I am still at a loss to know how best to perform the arpeggiations 'correctly'. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: More on Sting again REVISED
according to John Carey John Donne - Life, mind and Art FaberFaber 1981 the fine was £20 per month. Donne came from a very well-connected Catholic family but he turned apostate eventually. Presumably the random nature of the persecution was far worse than anything else and the torture and execution of Catholics would have been gruesome and public with many victims being either friends or family. Apostasy was little better as this meant 'hellfire and damnation for all eternity' which was then believed absolutely. Sadly, there are modern parallels! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 February 2007 15:49 To: David Rastall; Nancy Carlin Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: More on Sting again REVISED --- David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were a Catholic in the England of 1600, probably you would be left alone as long as you didn't get political. --- David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you were a Catholic in the England of 1600, probably you would be left alone as long as you didn't get political. Yes, but what of something like the 20-pound fine - initiated under Elizabeth - that was imposed upon anyone not present at the state-church's Sunday services? This is quite considerable when you consider that the average person brought in around _2_ pounds a year! This would have been a serious burden for even the wealthiest of Catholics. Today we can point to instances of a few people like Byrd who were able to jump over the hurdles of state-sponsored discrimination, but that doesn't mean that the powers-that-be were willing to look the other way in every case. Why _would_ they want Catholics in these primo positions? Consider the case of blacks in the US before the civil rights movement. As a black, you might very well have been, say, the most gifted lawyer applying for a position at a firm. In spite of this merit, there's every likelyhood that your resume would have ended up in the waste basket before it ever even got past the front desk. Chris Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: mertel
Davide, Richard Darsie of Silver Sound Publications, produced two volumes ,one of preludes and the second of Fantasiae and Fugues, in 1996 from Hortus Musicalis Novus. I have no idea whether they are still available. best wishes Charles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 January 2007 18:51 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] mertel Hi to all, anyone know where to find some tablatures of elias mertel? I've played only a prelude (the #93 I think)and it's very beautiful, so if anyone can mail me something or send me an url where i can download them, I'll be grateful. (is all its music suitable for a 8 courses or does need more?) Thank you all Davide P.S. For who wants, I'm online with the radio now for about 2h! -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Burns Night
Late again! Has anybody any suggestions for an encore for Soprano+lute at a Burns night Supper. ? thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] East European renaissance lute music in staff notation
Dear List, I was asked by a harpist whether I could suggest any renaissance lute music of east European origin, in staff notation, that would be suitable for teaching 'arrangement for harps'. I would be grateful for any suggestions and music if possible ,please : ^). I gather this is for a Harp festival in Edinburgh in January 2007. In this context, East European would include Russia, Poland Germany, Hungary etc. thanks for your help, I hope! Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] keys for Falkenhagen sonatas and partitas
could some kind person please let me what the keys for Falkenhagen's Partitas and Sonatas are? The only CD I have of the partitas gives the first three as being in A Major and the last three as Bb Major but I think this is the wrong way round. I cannot find any reference to the keys used for the sonatas. thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] re Taizé chants
Has anybody transcribed Taizé chants for the lute? If so, I would love to hear from them thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: strings: direction of vibration?
The following link to the proceedings of a 1983 conference of Swedish guitar makers is quite interesting and there is a reference to the acoustic differences between plucking 'vertically' or 'in parallel' to the soundboard. A vertical 'pluck' producing a strong ,but short, tone and a parallel 'pluck produces a weaker but more sustained tone. Jonsson makes the point that the direction of pluck is normally a mixture of these two extremes and the resulting combination gives both the initial 'attack' and the ensuing 'sustain'. There is a lot of background research information including Chladni Interferograms. The whole publication is about 106 pages long! have a good read! Charles http://www.speech.kth.se/music/publications/kma/papers/kma38-ocr.pdf#search=%22 Jonsson%20Acoustics%20for%20guitar%20makers%22 To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Johann Gottfried Conradi
1724 is the date given in the Tree edition facsimile To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Zamboni Romano Sonatas in Score Conversions Edition
I am trying to track down a copy of the Zamboni Sonatas that Score Conversions produced in 1997, in French Tab, from the Lucca Ms(1718) If anyone has a copy that they wish to part with please contact me off-list. I tried emailing Miles Dempster but the email was returned so I don't know whether Score Conversions is still in existence? thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Latest Musical Definitions
extra: Placebo Domingo: at least 20% of listeners thought it was the real 'thing' Tempo Asboluto : anywhere between Andante Cantabile and Allegro con Brio The following appeared on various church notice boards. you may have seen the list already but these made me laugh! Next Thursday there will be tryouts for the choir. They need all the help they can get. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be What Is Hell? Come early and listen to our choir practice. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: beginners tablature
The Lute Society publishes 58 pieces for Renaissance Lute not 10c but a useful stepping-stone. The French Lute Society publishes a series called Le secret des Muses edited by Pascale Boquet. Vol 7 is 20 easy pieces for 10c lute (trans.) best of luck Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: The Ten Commandments
Dear Stewart, this presumably is Christopher Tye's setting. I thought that I had a copy but no luck, I am afraid. It is available from Stainer Bell. Best wishes Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Dear All, what early music events are happening in Venice in the first week in July? thanks Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Music Therapy
surely they would keep to the beat? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Music Therapy
A Happy New Year to all! There was an article in one of the UK national newspapers recently about Harpists being 'employed' in operating theatres and in Chemotherapy Units to help reduce tension and anxiety in patients. I followed this up by looking at various links to formal Music Therapy and I gather that the Harp, among other instruments, is often used because of its particular properties. I wondered whether the lute would be similarly useful. Has anybody on the list experience of this? best wishes Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Thanks to Wayne
I agree most heartily! Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Bawdy Songs Catches
Faber Music has just published Broadside Ballads - songs from the streets,taverns,theatres and countryside of 17th C England Edited by Lucy Skeaping. Words and melody only but it could be a useful source. ISBN 0-571-52223-8 regards Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] writing divisions
what are the 'rules' for writing divisions? regards Charles To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
