[LUTE] Re: Goffriller

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Ed:

Paul O'Dettes copy of the Goffriller lute was used on this vinyl LP:
https://www.discogs.com/Paul-ODette-Early-Venetian-Lute-Music/release/10202869
However, there is no original lute by Goffriller listed in the 
Lautenweltaddressbuch.

Regards,

Daniel

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Edward Martin
Sent: 15 March, 2018 14:30
To: lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Goffriller

Dear ones, 

I reside in Northern Minnesota, and in a few days we will have a cello concert 
performed by Amit Peled, and he is performing on Pablo Casals’ old cello by 
Matteo Goffriller made in 1733.  I looked up some information on that builder, 
and he founded the Venice school of violin making and he is known mostly for 
his cellos.  Most or all of his surviving instruments are accounted for, but 
all lists contained only violins, violas, cellos, basses. No lutes listed. 

I seem to recall years ago that Paul O’Dette used to play an alto lute built by 
Nico van der waals, modeled after a lute by Goffriller. I am having a difficult 
time finding anything about extant Goffriller lutes. Does anyone know anything 
about the provenance of an old Goffriller lute?  I would like to know, as I 
will be meeting with Amit Pelad, who has Pablo Casals’ Goffriller cello. 

Thanks in advance. 

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[LUTE] Re: Interesting exhibition featuring lute opens today in Yale

[Daniel F. Heiman]

The opening event is now fossilized at:
https://youtu.be/BXtpfU4Bfjo?t=735

The meat of the presentation starts here:
https://youtu.be/BXtpfU4Bfjo?t=1264

Daniel

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Luke Emmet
Sent: 14 February, 2018 15:57
To: David Van Edwards
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Interesting exhibition featuring lute opens today in
Yale

Hi David

Thanks for sharing that - it looks really intriguing - I hope to see the
exhibition when comes back to the UK over the summer.

As you have probably already seen, the Yale site includes the short intro
film which is narrated by Stephen Fry which well worth the watch

   https://britishart.yale.edu/multimedia-video/27/6516

Best Wishes

  - Luke

On 14-Feb-2018 12:50, David Van Edwards wrote:
>The Paston Treasure: Microcosm of the Known World
>
> The Paston Treasure, a huge painting from Norwich Castle, England,
> showing part of the collection of Robert Paston the Earl of Yarmouth
> c.1665 features a prominent life-size image of a 12 course lute and
> less prominently a bass viol, pochette, violin, trumpet and a tenor
> recorder. It has been the subject of a major collaborative
> investigation and the splendid exhibition that shows off the results,
> including several of the surviving objects in the painting, opens
today
> Wednesday 14th Feb. in the Yale Center for British Art.
>
>
https://britishart.yale.edu/event/opening-conversation-paston-treasure-
> microcosm-known-world
>
> There will be a live stream of the opening event starting at 5.30
> Eastern Seaboard time.
>
> For the exhibition the Lute Society http://www.lutesociety.org/ have
> lent the 12 course lute made in their 2010 summer school to display in
> a case with historic examples of each of the other instruments.
>
> After the showing in Yale the exhibition moves to Norwich Castle from
> July - September. 
> https://www.museums.norfolk.gov.uk/norwich-castle
>
> From the photos I've seen the exhibition is positively sumptuous and
> admission is free!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> David
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[LUTE] Interesting perspective on Spinacino & Petrucci

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   In a set of notes for a harpsichord recording :


   https://www.naxos.com/mainsite/blurbs_reviews.asp?item_code=8.572998
   tNum=572998=About this Recording=English#


   Particularly the 8^th paragraph, dealing with track 1.


   Daniel Heiman

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[LUTE] Re: Luther's lute

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Not intabulations of the chorales themselves, but Matthaus Reymann in hin 
Nostes Musicae includes Fantasias super
Nun komm der Heiden Heiland 
Vom Himmel hoch da komm ich her
Erhalt uns Herr bei deinem Wort
Es spricht der unwesen Mund wohl
Erbarm dich mein, O Herre Gott
Ich rufe zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ
Nun freut euch lieben Christen G'mein
Durch Adams Fall ist ganz verderbt
Wenn mein Stündlein vorhanden ist

Fairly challenging music.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Stephen Stubbs
Sent: 18 April, 2017 08:03
To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luther's lute

The text for some chorales is ascribed to Martin Luther in:

Sacred Music For Lute
Edited by Catherine Liddell, Volume I: Renaissance tuning

Published by Lyre Music Publications, copyright 2000
3710 Bellaire Circle
Fort Worth, Texas 76109  USA

I couldn't find an ISBN number for this publication.

Best,
"The Other" Stephen Stubbs


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Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:19 AM
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luther's lute



Dear G. C. Kaleido,


Luther did indeed play the lute and some chorals from the core repertoire of 
the protestant church are ascribed to him, but if you ever come upon any 
mentioning of a lute book from his hands, be sure that it's a fraud.

I do not know about any collected edition of intavolations of chorals ascribed 
to Martin Luther (the chorals, not the tabs!), but it is quite possible that 
there is at least on ore the other. 

Best,

Joachim

-Original-Nachricht-
Betreff: [LUTE] Luther's lute
Datum: 2017-04-16T10:45:12+0200
Von: "G. C." 
An: "Lutelist" 

   Dear list,
   Martin Luther allegedly played the lute. He is also the purported
   composer of a number of protestant psalms.
   Has there been any research work on Luther's possible ouvre, or an
   attempt to collect his psalms in tablature or otherwise (from different
   lutebooks / manuscript sources)?
   Is there any mention of "a Luther lute book"?
   B.R.
   G.

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[LUTE] Re: A Fronimo question

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Rainer:

Yes, the time signature characters are located in the tablature font file, and 
the Fronimo font file layouts are not standard -- not all spots in the font map 
are filled, and not all spots that are occupied are filled with the same 
character that is there in a standard text or display font.  If you use a font 
for the tablature characters that was not supplied with the Fronimo software, 
the characters located at the corresponding place in the font map will 
sometimes be different.

Get a font editor and modify the font (e.g. Old English Text MT that comes with 
Windows) and save it under a new name.

Regards,

Daniel



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Rainer
Sent: 06 February, 2017 04:54
To: Lute net
Subject: [LUTE] A Fronimo question

Erm, I assume most members of the Fronimo mailing list are members of this list.

Question:

Instead of time signatures get empty boxes.

I assume this is a font problem.

Any idea anybody?

Rainer



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[LUTE] A previously unknown MS from the 1590s

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   In the Stadtbibliothek Baunschweig:

   [1]http://www.rism.info/en/home/newsdetails/article/2/a-previously-unkn
   own-lute-tablature.html


   Regards,


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[LUTE] Re: lute music for Candlemas

[Daniel F. Heiman]

David:

Richard Allison has a Nunc dimittis, the seventh piece in his "Psalmes of
David in Meter," but it probably would work best if you can draft a singer
rather than playing it as a solo.

Regards,

Daniel

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Ron Andrico
Sent: 23 January, 2017 09:07
To: David van Ooijen; lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: lute music for Candlemas

   I suggest the Cantique de Simeon in Vallet's _Regia Pietas_, p. 166.
   It's in F mode and actually quite satisfying to play.

   RA
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   From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on behalf
   of David van Ooijen 
   Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 1:41 PM
   To: lutelist Net
   Subject: [LUTE] lute music for Candlemas

  Dear collected wisdom
  I'm to play something like 20 minutes in a concert around the theme
   of
  Canldemas, aka Feast of the Purification of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
  It's the occasion 40 days after his birth Maria presented Jesus in
   the
  temple. Jesus is regared the light of the world, so it's the
   occasion
  of having your candles blessed in church. Simeon was the priest on
   duty
  and he blessed Jesus with a Nunc Dimittis. Simeon died afterwards,
   as
  was foretold to him by the Holy Spirit.
  So much for history. Now for music. Themes can be light, Simeon,
   Nunc
  Dimittis, whatever else you can think of.
  I'm open to suggestions of good lute pieces. Preferably, but
  necessarily confined to, 16th century polyphony.
  David
  PS: For those who wondered what I did for the Song of Songs concert,
   I
  intabulated four motets by Palestrina and six by Lechner. The latter
  was a very welcome tip from one of you.
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[LUTE] Nigel North concert videos on YouTube

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   From a concert performed last March, five sets are here:

   [1]http://bit.ly/Nigel-ByronColby


   The sixth set, which will complete the concert, has been edited and is
   awaiting final approval to post.


   Regards,


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[LUTE] Re: El atanbor

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Sean:

El ata~bor = tambor, a drum.  The tilde over a vowel may represent either an
"n" or an "m," depending on the context.  In fact, the short ostinato does
sound a bit like a drum.

The section at the end of the discussion is telling you how to use a guitar
as a substitute for a vihuela when playing the part.

Regards,

Daniel

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Of Sean Smith
Sent: 18 January, 2016 18:57
To: lute list
Subject: [LUTE] El atanbor


Dear vihuelists, guitarists and historians,

The final piece in Valderabanos' vihuela books is a "para discantar" over a
one-measure "punto" 'commonly known as "el atanbor"'. 

Is there a meaning to this Atanbor? I've never seen in in relation to
lute/vihuela music before. 

In the final line of the incipit there is the phrase:

". o en guitarr su tercera en vazio a los vieios con tercera en lleno de la
vihuela en unisonus." 

I have negligible spanish skills - could someone translate this for me? I
could send an image of the incipit to whomever needs it.

Much appreciated in advance, 

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[LUTE] Re: Vel Puo Giurar Amor

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Tomoko:

The collection was first published in 1551.  The 1597 basso partbook in the 
British Library is from the fifth reprint of it!  Apparently someone else 
enjoyed the music as well.

See entry 1551-10 in this (as yet incomplete) index:
http://imslp.org/wiki/User:Feduol/Sandbox

I have not found any other copy of the music on line, though.

Regards,

Daniel

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Tomoko Koide
Sent: 30 October, 2015 07:43
To: jo.lued...@t-online.de; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vel Puo Giurar Amor

Dear Joachim

Thank you for prompt reply,  great help to find a source and lyrics!
A basso part book containing the song survives but other two parts (cantus, 
tenor) does not seem to .

https://repository.royalholloway.ac.uk/items/359bdfc2-9b51-be97-1464-15a5aea7e233/1/

(..and I couldn't help but grin at nice doodles some skill hands added to this 
book... :) )

Tomoko

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Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 8:22 PM
To: Tomoko Koide ; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vel Puo Giurar Amor

Dear Tomoko,

search for the song title in combination with the composer nam Vincenzo Ferro. 
This should lead you even (if I remember well) to an internet-publication of 
the vocal model.

Regards,

Joachim


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Betreff: [LUTE] Vel Puo Giurar Amor
Datum: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 11:34:45 +0100
Von: "Tomoko Koide" lutenist.mumin.ko...@gmail.com
An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

Dear collective wisdom,

Could anyone tell me if the song and lyrics of "Vel Puo Giurar Amor" survives 
in other sources?
The piece I recently found in Vincenzo Glilei's Intavolature di Lauto, 
pp.13-14, is so beautiful that I would love to know the original song..

http://imslp.org/wiki/Intavolature_de_lauto_(Galilei,_Vincenzo)

regards,
Tomoko Koide



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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Buxtehude

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Also here:

http://www.free-scores.com/download-sheet-music.php?pdf=7277


Daniel

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Of Richard Darsie
Sent: 17 August, 2015 16:13
To: Undisclosed-recipients:
Cc: baroque lute list
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Buxtehude

   For those interested, there is tab here
   [1]http://earlymusicstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Allmande_Cour
   _Sar_Gig.pdf
   and the entire Walter Gerwig album is here:
   [2]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTX0MycryIA
   Cheers,
   Richard

   On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Sterling Price
   [3]spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu wrote:

 Hi all. I'm looking for the buxtehude suite on Gerwigs album from
 the 1960s. I had heard that there was an 18th century version for
 lute, but then I read that wasn't the case. Also the pachelbel suite
 on the same album I'd love to have.
 Thanks!
 Sterling
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[LUTE] No place to plant your little finger...

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   but it is almost as light as a lute.


   [1]https://youtu.be/n3g4j0ERp5M


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[LUTE] Re: Soap Talc, quick question

[Daniel F. Heiman]

There are various commercially-available remedies as well:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuning_peg#Peg_dope

Whatever you use, apply it sparingly, and realize that you may have to
remove some or all of it if the application does not improve the situation.

Daniel

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Sent: 13 August, 2015 06:02
To: lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Soap  Talc, quick question

   Love that typo. ;-)

   David
   On Thursday, August 13, 2015, David van Ooijen
   [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:

I use talk only. Baby powder.
David
On Thursday, August 13, 2015, andy butler
 [1][2]akbut...@tiscali.co.uk
wrote:
  I'm about to change strings on my lute, and I understand that
  applying
  a soap/talc mix to the pegs will help with tuning.
  So, is that a 50/50 mix?
  Should I add any water?
  any tips gratefully received
  kind regards
  andy
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[LUTE] Re: Converting tablature to grand staff

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Tobiah:

Fronimo does this instantly and fairly well.  You may have to use the Rebeam 
notes command to get a presentation that is more easily read.

Daniel Heiman

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Tobiah
Sent: 19 February, 2015 10:45
To: Lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Converting tablature to grand staff

I'm able to do this with Finale to some extent, but it feels as though I'm 
expending too much effort in the process.  Are there any other favorite 
computer tools for doing this, or do people just sort of convert on the fly 
with their eye?

Thanks,

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[LUTE] Re: Neusidler

[Daniel F. Heiman]

I should correct this to say that there are several links there to his 1574
publication in German tablature and to both the Primo libro and secondo
libro from 1566 in Italian tablature.

Jason Kortis has been kind enough to transcribe the whole Primo libro into
Fronimo format so you can print it out in whichever format you wish.  That
is here:
https://xa.yimg.com/df/Fronimo_editor/M.+Newsidler+Libro+Primo+1566.zip

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

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Of Daniel F. Heiman
Sent: 18 February, 2015 21:48
To: 'Dan Winheld'; 'sterling price'; 'Lutelist Net'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Neusidler

Dan:

There are several places you can download digital facsimiles of Melchior
Neusidler's publications in German tablature.  There are links on the
Digital Facsimiles page of the LSA site:
 http://bit.ly/KWa5XB

Regards.

Daniel

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Of Dan Winheld
Sent: 18 February, 2015 19:20
To: sterling price; Lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Neusidler

Me too- but I would take German tab. rather than nothing at all.
More thanks-
Dan

On 2/18/2015 4:34 PM, sterling price wrote:
 Hi--I am looking for a version of the Teutch Lautenbuch of Melchior
 Neusidler that is in something other than German Tab. Or do I need to
 go ahead and try to learn to read German Tab?
 Thanks all,
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[LUTE] Re: Neusidler

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Dan:

There are several places you can download digital facsimiles of Melchior
Neusidler's publications in German tablature.  There are links on the
Digital Facsimiles page of the LSA site:
 http://bit.ly/KWa5XB

Regards.

Daniel

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Of Dan Winheld
Sent: 18 February, 2015 19:20
To: sterling price; Lutelist Net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Neusidler

Me too- but I would take German tab. rather than nothing at all.
More thanks-
Dan

On 2/18/2015 4:34 PM, sterling price wrote:
 Hi--I am looking for a version of the Teutch Lautenbuch of Melchior
 Neusidler that is in something other than German Tab. Or do I need to
 go ahead and try to learn to read German Tab?
 Thanks all,
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[LUTE] Ensemble Viscera performance

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   Iberian music, ca. 1 hour long:


   [1]http://bit.ly/19lycPy


   You guys in New York should be letting us know about things like this,
   particularly since it is not on YouTube where videos stay up
   indefinitely.  This  will disappear sometime fairly soon.


   Regards,


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[LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.

[Daniel F. Heiman]

The discussion so far has confirmed my diagnosis that the question cannot be
answered with a brief summary.   OK.  I will try to limit my response, but
no promises.

First, to oversimplify a bit, you have to consider the main strains of
Protestantism, the Lutherans, the Calvinists and the Anglicans, which each
have a different musical point of view.  

The Calvinists took the simplest approach, limiting the musical
participation in services mainly to psalm singing, often without
accompaniment, as mentioned earlier.  Nevertheless, this led to the
publication of the Geneva Psalter, which provided melodies for use in church
and for devotions at home. Those melodies underlie a huge body of all sorts
of more complex music composed from that time to the present.  In the lute
world, you have to look at the two books of sacred music published by
Nicolaes Vallet (Een en twintich Psalmen Davids and Regia Pietas) as derived
quite directly from that tradition.  Adrian Le Roy published psalm settings
in several collections, 21 in 1552 and 8 in 1574 (edition by CNRS, 1962) in
addition to a full set of 150 in 1567.

The Lutherans and the Anglicans retained much more of the formal structure
of the Roman Catholic mass, including the singing of the Kyrie, Gloria,
Credo, Sanctus and Agnus Dei, in addition to the hymns, at least in larger
churches and especially on festivals.

Martin Luther clearly had some experience playing the lute, in addition to
composing at least a few simple hymn melodies.  Lutheran churches of any
size normally had (and have today) on staff a musical director, organist
and/or choral conductor, who may be known as a cantor, and these musicians
often have composed their own music to suit the needs of their positions.
Yes Johann Sebastian Bach was a Lutheran and cantor/organist/composer in
Leipzig, but he was just the pinnacle of a large body of composers starting
from some of Luther's personal friends, like Georg Rhau, Johann Walther  and
Georg Forster who initiated the creation of the body of music, the Lutheran
chorale tunes, that again forms the basis of an ongoing compositional
tradition.  Later sixteenth century figures such as Hans Leo Hassler, Johann
Eccard and Erasmus Widmann began the elaboration.  Well-known
representatives from the seventeenth century include Michael Praetorius,
Michael Altenburg, Heinrich Schütz, Johann Hermann Schein, Samuel Scheidt,
Johann Pachelbel, Johann Crüger, Franz Tunder, Nicolas Bruhns, Dietrich
Buxtehude  In the world of the lute, there are many settings of Lutheran
chorale melodies.   In print they appear in the collections of Melchior
Neusidler, where some settings are attributed to Conrad Neusidler.
Matthaeus Reymann's Noctes Musicae includes a bunch of massive fantasies
based on Lutheran chorale melodies.  The Königsberg Ms includes simple
settings of at least 20 Lutheran chorales, in addition to around 50 Psalms.

Also in England, large Anglican congregations have always employed an
organist/choirmaster/composer to provide for their musical needs.  Early
major composers in that tradition include Christopher Tye, Thomas Tomkins,
Thomas Tallis, Thomas Weelkes, Orlando Gibbons and Adrian Batten.  William
Byrd did write a number of Anglican anthems in addition to his well-known
body of music for the Roman Catholic rite.   A very important composer of
church music later in the 17th century was Henry Purcell.  Sacred music for
lute in tablature, in addition to the Allison Psalm collection mentioned
earlier, includes Thomas Campion's First Booke of Ayres, printed in 1614,
and Miserere My Maker in the Turpyn Book, though these were pretty clearly
not intended for use in formal church services.   William Leighton's
collection, The Tears or Lamentations of a sorrowful soul, 1613/14 includes
sacred music in English by John Dowland, John Bull, Alphonso Ferrabosco and
Coperario in addition to pieces he composed himself.

For a modern collection for lute with very useful critical notes, see
Catherine Liddell, Sacred Music for Lute, Volume 1, Renaissance Tuning, Fort
Worth: Lyre Music Publications, 2000.

Daniel Heiman



-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Markus Lutz
Sent: 31 December, 2014 02:37
To: Ron Andrico; Herbert Ward; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.

Hi Ron,
it is much too simple and in fact wrong to say the reformed religion 
or even derogatively reformed sects.

In fact there had been two protestant churches that had a real different
approach for music in services.
The so called reformed protestants had been mainly influenced by the Swiss
reformators Zwingli (who had been in fact a good lutenist and
musician) and Calvin, who didn't want to disturb the service by music.
In the reformed churches the singing of psalms was for a long time the only
possibility to have music in the service.
Nevertheless we have many good composers and musicians from this 

[LUTE] Re: Historical Protestant music.

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Herb:

No, it cannot be summarized briefly.

Would you care to narrow the focus of your question a bit?

Daniel


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Herbert Ward
Sent: 29 December, 2014 23:15
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Historical Protestant music.



Can the question of Catholic vs Protestant support for the historical
performance and composing of early music be summarized briefly?

By way of supplying framework,
Martin Luther began around 1520 and the
Thirty Year's war lasted until 1648.



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[LUTE] Re: those sarabands

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Thomas:

Both of Donington's books have essentially the same relatively limited
information:
The only specifically French reference is Charles Masson, Nouveau traité de
regles de composition de la musique, Paris 1699, the sarabande is taken
gravely (gravement)
Mace, 1676, says Serabands are of the Shortest Triple-Time; but are more
Toyish, and Light, than Corantoes; and commonly of Two Strains
Philips, The New World of Words, in 1658 defines Saraband as Lesson or Air
Musick going with a quick time.  The fifth edition (1696) of the book omits
the tempo indication, and the copy of the first edition in the British
Museum has a handwritten correction (possibly from around 1719) where the
word quick is crossed out and changed to slow.

The general impression is that the tempo slowed late in the 17th century.

Regards,

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Thomas Walker
Sent: 15 December, 2014 14:03
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] those sarabands

   Greetings all--
   I know the sarabande was originally a lively ditty which morphed pretty
   thoroughly by the late 17th century.  I have a question about the
   middle ground, in particular the sarabandes found in Ballard's prints
   from the 1630s, though.  Many seem to work whether played lively or
   stately, and I know of an old Bailes recording where he positively
   burns through a sarabande by Mesangeau.  I also have played sarabands
   in ensemble works by Jenkins et al that demanded a lively reading.
   The question is, what textual evidence do we have for expected tempi of
   sarabandes of the French school 1610-1640?
   Thank you kindly,
   Thomas Walker, Jr.

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[LUTE] Re: Scottish Lute Album

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Let's try this:
http://www.instantencore.com/contributor/contributor.aspx?CId=5076480

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of David Tayler
Sent: 08 November, 2014 00:46
To: Jacob Johnson
Cc: lute
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Scottish Lute Album

   Yes, mysteriously the link was changed after it was online for an hour
   or so.
   Here's the correct Instant Encore link:
   [1]https://www.instantencore.com/ControlPanel/Music/cpAlbumChecklist.as
   px?PIdQ15636
   A lot of these companies resample the files and add compression and
   reverb, which is unfortunate because the dynamic range is lost (what
   little there is) so often the lute sounds very flat or compressed,
   Instant encore just adds a metatag to the MP3. Actually a lot of
   engineers add a lot of compression and then all of the piano dynamics
   disappear. The down side--you may laugh--is that if you listen in the
   car, you can't hear the quiet parts.
   And this is a major concern for marketing. I chose the bad in the car
   sound, but in a nice quiet room you can hear the dynamic shades and
   shapes.
   Recording setup: put up nine mics in my back room: 2x Senheiser MKH40,
   1x ribbon mic with custom ribbon and motor, 2x Schoeps MK41, 2x Schoeps
   MK2H, 2x MKH 80.
   Yes, there are CDs! And they sound a bit rounder and smoother and
   obviously the sound has not been compressed.
   [2]http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00V71UOU
   d
 __

   From: Jacob Johnson tmrguitar...@gmail.com
   To: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net
   Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 8:29 PM
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Scottish Lute Album
   Hi David,
   I would love to hear your album. I checked the Instant Encore link and
   it didn't seem to work. The CD Baby samples sound great, though! Do you
   have any plans to make physical copies available in the future?
   Also, would you mind telling me about the recording setup you used?
   Thanks so much,
   Jacob Johnson
   Guitar/Lute
   On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:06 PM, David Tayler
   [3]vidan...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Dear all, my new Album is now online.
After putting it online, I asked my self, should I sell it or
 share it
with my friends?
Well, of course, sharing is the way to go!
If you would like a free copy, just send me a message on FB and I
 will
send you a download code.
[1]CDBaby
[2]Instant Encore
Instant Encore has better preview files.
CDBaby now offers FLAC files which sound as good as the CD
Cheers,
David T.
--
 References
1. [4]http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/davidtayler2
2. [5]http://www.instantencore.com/music/details.aspx?PIdQ15636
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References

   1.
https://www.instantencore.com/ControlPanel/Music/cpAlbumChecklist.aspx?PIdQ1
5636
   2. http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00V71UOU
   3. mailto:vidan...@sbcglobal.net
   4. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/davidtayler2
   5. http://www.instantencore.com/music/details.aspx?PIdQ15636
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: hello and introductions

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Dear Ching-Ping:

I would also like to extend my welcome to you.  It is great to hear from 
someone in China.

In my capacity as Webmaster for the Lute Society of America I try to track who 
is interested in our electronic offerings and where they are located.  For 
example, our YouTube channel has been on the air for four years now and is on 
track to hit 100,000 all-time total views this month.  
http://bit.ly/N87o48
The greatest number of the hits are from the USA, though those constitute only 
22%.   In clear second place is Japan, with 10% – I know Ed Durbrow is a great 
fan of ours (Hi, Ed!), but there is no way he can account for 10,000 views by 
himself!  The really amazing thing to me is that China, for all its billions of 
people, has produced only 17 views of our material in all that time.  Thus is 
clear that interest in the European lute and knowledge about it must be almost 
non-existent in China.  I hope you will be successful in spreading the word 
about our favorite instrument among your friends and acquaintances there.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Ching-Ping Lin
Sent: 02 August, 2014 19:46
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] hello and introductions

Dear All,

I'm new and have been reading for a while, but thought I should say hello to 
everyone. I live in Beijing and I've mainly been an early music singer, but I'm 
excited to be taking up the lute. It has not been easy (that's an 
understatement actually) getting an instrument, books or instruction over here, 
but I have to send many thanks to Ed Durbrow for helping me out from Japan. 

Glad to be part of this community,

Ching-Ping

--
林青萍 Ching-Ping Lin
p...@fatmice.com





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[LUTE] Re: Lute Songs on the Web

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Charles:

A fairly comprehensive summary of digital facsimiles available on the
Internet is accessible on the website of the Lute Society of America:
http://bit.ly/KWa5XB
This of course includes much solo music, but accompanied vocal music from
Bossinensis to the Baroque is listed as well.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Charles Mokotoff
Sent: 01 August, 2014 09:57
To: LuteNet list
Subject: [LUTE] Lute Songs on the Web

   Greetings Lutenists,
   I am reading through some songs with a soprano this week. I must have a
   roomful of printed books of music, greatest hits of the era, Dowland,
   Campion, Ford, most of the Stainer and Bell editions.
   Is there a place on the internet where these are perhaps already living
   to save me the scanning and printing for my performance binder? It
   doesn't have to be the editions I have.A
   Thanks for any advice.
   CharlesA

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[LUTE] Re: Bare spot on soundboard.

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Herb:

This is a cosmetic problem that affects the monetary value of the instrument
but not the sound the instrument produces.  I have the same problem with a
Tomlinson lute I purchased second0hand.  I talked to Grant at the recent
Lute Festival in Cleveland, and he basically said it is not important to fix
it.

If you choose to do something about it, the course of action depends in part
on what the existing finish material is, but the choices basically boil down
to:
1) try to refinish that area and make it blend with the surrounding parts of
the soundboard
2) strip off all the finish on the soundboard, then
a) refinish it
b) leave the wood bare
If the existing finish is shellac, option 1) may be easier to accomplish
than if it is a varnish that may be difficult or impossible to match.  Since
shellac is soluble in alcohol, it may be possible just to redistribute the
existing finish with denatured alcohol to even it out.   
Many early lutes seem to have had minimal or no finish on the soundboard, so
2)b is a realistic option.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Herbert Ward
Sent: 27 July, 2014 15:52
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Bare spot on soundboard.

I've worn a spot on the soundboard with my RH pinkie.
The bare wood is starting to show through the finish.
Should I do anything?



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[LUTE] Lutefest concert programs posted

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   Four of the concert programs for the upcoming Lute Festival in
   Cleveland are now on line:


   [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/seminar/index.html


   Daniel

   --

References

   1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/seminar/index.html


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[LUTE] Re: David's Besard article

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Martin:

http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/publications/Q/2012/index.html
Issue 1, page 14.  

Slowly, but surely, the Table of Contents pages for the Quarterly are
appearing on the website.  They are most conveniently searchable using the
restricted engine at the bottom of the home page:
http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Martin Shepherd
Sent: 23 May, 2014 02:05
To: Nancy Carlin; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: David's Besard article

Nancy, for those of us who probably do have the Q (somewhere!) can you
remind us which issue it's in?

Thanks,

Martin

On 23/05/2014 06:18, Nancy Carlin wrote:
 I have spare copies of the Quarterly that has David's article about 
 the Besard duets in it with the music.  If you are not a LSA member 
 and didn't get it, email me with a street address and I will send you 
 a copy.
 Nancy



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[LUTE] Re: Lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Anthony:

Looking at the Minuet provided as a sample page raises some questions about
the notation.

The use of square brackets (rather than curly braces) at the beginning of
each system implies that these are two separate instruments; thus the top
staff is for the lute, and the bottom one is for the B.c. (That is to say
this is not a grand-staff presentation of the lute part alone, and the
continuo is on a separate page.)

The question then becomes, what is the tuning of the lute?  Conventional
wisdom is that the Italians never adopted the d-minor tuning.  So, if we
assume an ffeff tuned instrument in G, the notated pitch is quite
stratospheric, mostly above the 5th fret and hitting the 13th fret at one
point.  If we assume that the notation follows the modern guitar convention,
sounding an octave lower than written (in spite of the absence of an 8 below
the treble clef), then the music is quite easy, falling within the range of
a 6-course lute or mandora.  However, that puts many of the bass notes of
the lute below the B.c. part, which seems a bit strange.

Any additional information available?

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Anthony Hart
Sent: 12 April, 2014 06:03
To: lute
Subject: [LUTE] Lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio

   The lute sonatas of Antonino Reggio have now been published. Please
   visit [1]www.edizionear.com/lute.html

   Anthony Hart

   --

References

   1. http://www.edizionear.com/lute.html


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[LUTE] Re: And, to reiterate

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Why not just use a matchstick?

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of alexander
Sent: 10 February, 2014 03:28
To: Rockford Mjos
Cc: Dan Winheld; Herbert Ward; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] And, to reiterate


If someone decides to saw off some tiny pieces of wood, for whatever
purpose, and do it with a precision, A surgical bone saw is the best and
quickest tool. Practically no wood wasted, too. That was the question.
alexander r.

 I find fret shims sometimes useful on my archlute and theorbo, where I
don't always get a new fret tight enough before that very short slide up to
position. Instead of throwing that new fret out I will shim with wood or
rolled thick paper. If older frets become loose but are still serviceable, I
may also shim.
 
 But new frets make the instruments sound their best.
 
 -- R
 
  I could whittle with a utility knife, but that would be wasteful 
  and time consuming.
  
  I find that a surgical saw, something like what one can find even 
  on Amazon (Satterlee Bone Saw 13) is an ideal tool. A very thin blade
with sharp teeth. Just make sure you do not cut yourself in the process...
It is actually ideal for many uses with wood, bone and plastics.
  
  Guys,
  
  Why would either of you go to all that bother, rather than merely
replacing the fret? Of course, an emergency situation (5 minutes before show
time, during rehearsal, or stuck out somewhere beyond easy reach of the
postal service  no spare gut) is another story.



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimile

[Daniel F. Heiman]

The pages load, including all the appropriate buttons, which appear to
function, but there are no facsimile images displayed -- just a small box
containing an X.

Daniel


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Rainer
Sent: 25 January, 2014 09:01
To: Andreas Schlegel; lute list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimile

??

Verstehe kein Wort...

Rainer

On 25.01.2014 15:53, Andreas Schlegel wrote:
 Thanks, Rainer!

 The first link is D-B 40588 - see:
 http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Quellen_CH/Quellen_CH.html

 The second link has no connection to the images... but normally it works.

 All the best,

 Andreas

 Am 25.01.2014 um 15:33 schrieb Rainer:

 Gerle 
 1532digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN618952
 624 
 http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN61
 8952624

 4230http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PP
 N745197221PHYSID=PHYS_0001

 Click on Werkzeugkasten

 The web pages are a nightmare...

 Rainer adS



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[LUTE] Re: Facsimile

[Daniel F. Heiman]

On the website of the Staatsbibliothek zu Berlin the display of facsimile
images on the page is now working again (without having to download a PDF
file in a separate operation).

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Rainer
Sent: 25 January, 2014 10:40
To: Daniel F. Heiman; 'lute list'
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimile

As I said - the web pages are a nightmare.

Once again: Click on Werkzeugkasten and you will see a pdf icon...

Rainer

On 25.01.2014 17:26, Daniel F. Heiman wrote:
 The pages load, including all the appropriate buttons, which appear to 
 function, but there are no facsimile images displayed -- just a small 
 box containing an X.

 Daniel


 -Original Message-
 From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On 
 Behalf Of Rainer
 Sent: 25 January, 2014 09:01
 To: Andreas Schlegel; lute list
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimile

 ??

 Verstehe kein Wort...

 Rainer

 On 25.01.2014 15:53, Andreas Schlegel wrote:
 Thanks, Rainer!

 The first link is D-B 40588 - see:
 http://www.accordsnouveaux.ch/de/Quellen_CH/Quellen_CH.html

 The second link has no connection to the images... but normally it works.

 All the best,

 Andreas

 Am 25.01.2014 um 15:33 schrieb Rainer:

 Gerle
 1532digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN61895
 2
 624
 http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=PPN6
 1
 8952624

 4230http://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/dms/werkansicht/?PPN=P
 P
 N745197221PHYSID=PHYS_0001

 Click on Werkzeugkasten

 The web pages are a nightmare...

 Rainer adS



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[LUTE] Re: LSA Website Digital Facsimiles Page

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Thanks, Rainer:

Well, I did have the two Newsidler books listed...  I have added the rest,
and I took out the link that annoyed you.   The updated page is here, now
with the number of links approaching 300!
http://bit.ly/KWa5XB

Thanks also for the suggestion to insert a note about what has been changed
on the page.  I put that at the top, just under the Table of Contents.

Regards,

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Rainer
Sent: 20 January, 2014 11:02
To: Lute net
Subject: [LUTE] Re: LSA Website Digital Facsimiles Page

Vallet:

http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27720
http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27722
http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27723

Schlick:
http://hdl.handle.net/1802/4943

 From Karlsruhe Library:
Kargel 1586 http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176881
Ochsenkuhn  http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176888
Newsidler 1544_2http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/243869
Newsidler 1544_1http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/243892
Barbetta 1582   http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176867
Drusina http://digital.blb-karlsruhe.de/id/1176874



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[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

[Daniel F. Heiman]

One thing I forgot to mention is that Fronimo also has the capability to
import from a MIDI file (which can be output by most general-purpose music
programs) and use that to generate a good rough draft tablature.  You will
still want to adjust some of the fingering to minimize hand shifts (or
maximize them, if you want special effects).

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Daniel F. Heiman
Sent: 19 November, 2013 00:54
To: 'Anthony Hart'
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

Anthony:

Given the current state of the art, I would strongly encourage you to use
Fronimo to set the tablature version of your edition.   The cost of the
software is moderate given the amount of time and effort that has been put
into creating it.  Input of tablature is very easy and very quick.  The
fonts provided with the program are extremely legible and well-designed -
Francesco has worked hard to make the letters compatible so there are no
clashes between them when they appear on adjacent lines.   The fonts are
aesthetically pleasing, and there are styles based loosely on historical
examples from various traditions and tablature systems.  Rhythm signs are
included in forms that are specific for tablature.  Because the Fronimo
program is designed from the beginning for setting tablature, it includes
provisions for adding all the necessary ornament signs, many of which are
unique to tablature (and hence absent from general-purpose music software
like Finale). The current version (version 3) of Fronimo includes good
flexibility to define the spacing between rhythmic events and to adjust line
spacing, font size, positioning of titles and editorial notes, etc.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Anthony Hart
Sent: 18 November, 2013 23:27
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Tablature for publication

I found a thread to this effect dating back to 2008 and was wondering if
there has been any significant up dates to the opinions.

I am planning to publish some 18th century lute sonatas which are in staff
notation I intend to publish a study edition which is OK, I am using Finale.

I also wish to publish a performance edition which will be in tablature.
Finale has  can achieve this (I am using the latest version 2014). But I am
not sure what would be most widely accepted style.

I have some published works from the 80's and, frankly I am not impressed
with any of them. There has been several publish since those days which I
have not seen.

Does anyone have an option as to the most appropriate style, any examples of
current works. I know that each player has his/her own style which suits
them but I am trying to find a consensus of opinion ( You can please some
people some of the time but it is impossible to please all the people all of
the time!!)I used to copy out all the tablature by hand and became used to
playing from them - but this just my way.

I would be grateful for your options. Those who have published what was the
reason for your choice.

Another question: I propose a study edition which will consist of the score
on staff notation and then publish as a performance edition, probably in
parts (there are 24 sonatas and I was thinking of publishing in, say, four
volumes of six in a spiral bound form for easy handling - any comments on
this welcome. Should I publish as Tablature only (there will be the complete
study edition should anyone be interested) or tablature plus staff in one
volume?

If the latter, the tablature complete followed by staff complete (or vice
versa)or staff then tablature following each other (definitely not together
on one page!.

Still pondering which, I want the publication to be professional but also
able to be playable from the publication.


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Musicologist and Independent Researcher
Highrise Court 'B', Apt 2,
Tigne' Street,
Sliema,
SLM3174,
MALTA
Tel: +356 27014791; Mob: +356 9944 9552.



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[LUTE] Re: Tablature for publication

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Anthony:

Given the current state of the art, I would strongly encourage you to use
Fronimo to set the tablature version of your edition.   The cost of the
software is moderate given the amount of time and effort that has been put
into creating it.  Input of tablature is very easy and very quick.  The
fonts provided with the program are extremely legible and well-designed -
Francesco has worked hard to make the letters compatible so there are no
clashes between them when they appear on adjacent lines.   The fonts are
aesthetically pleasing, and there are styles based loosely on historical
examples from various traditions and tablature systems.  Rhythm signs are
included in forms that are specific for tablature.  Because the Fronimo
program is designed from the beginning for setting tablature, it includes
provisions for adding all the necessary ornament signs, many of which are
unique to tablature (and hence absent from general-purpose music software
like Finale). The current version (version 3) of Fronimo includes good
flexibility to define the spacing between rhythmic events and to adjust line
spacing, font size, positioning of titles and editorial notes, etc.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Anthony Hart
Sent: 18 November, 2013 23:27
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Tablature for publication

I found a thread to this effect dating back to 2008 and was wondering if
there has been any significant up dates to the opinions.

I am planning to publish some 18th century lute sonatas which are in staff
notation I intend to publish a study edition which is OK, I am using Finale.

I also wish to publish a performance edition which will be in tablature.
Finale has  can achieve this (I am using the latest version 2014). But I am
not sure what would be most widely accepted style.

I have some published works from the 80's and, frankly I am not impressed
with any of them. There has been several publish since those days which I
have not seen.

Does anyone have an option as to the most appropriate style, any examples of
current works. I know that each player has his/her own style which suits
them but I am trying to find a consensus of opinion ( You can please some
people some of the time but it is impossible to please all the people all of
the time!!)I used to copy out all the tablature by hand and became used to
playing from them - but this just my way.

I would be grateful for your options. Those who have published what was the
reason for your choice.

Another question: I propose a study edition which will consist of the score
on staff notation and then publish as a performance edition, probably in
parts (there are 24 sonatas and I was thinking of publishing in, say, four
volumes of six in a spiral bound form for easy handling - any comments on
this welcome. Should I publish as Tablature only (there will be the complete
study edition should anyone be interested) or tablature plus staff in one
volume?

If the latter, the tablature complete followed by staff complete (or vice
versa)or staff then tablature following each other (definitely not together
on one page!.

Still pondering which, I want the publication to be professional but also
able to be playable from the publication.


--

 Anthony Hart MSc, LLCM, ALCM.
Musicologist and Independent Researcher
Highrise Court 'B', Apt 2,
Tigne' Street,
Sliema,
SLM3174,
MALTA
Tel: +356 27014791; Mob: +356 9944 9552.



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[LUTE] Re: Lawrence K Brown

[Daniel F. Heiman]

David:

After he quit making lutes, he continued building modern guitars for a
while, but apparently he is no longer in that either.  This link is dead.
http://lawrencebrownguitars.weebly.com/

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of David Rastall
Sent: 24 October, 2013 13:30
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Lawrence K Brown

I've been trying to contact LK Brown, but I can't find him online anywhere.
Can someone tell me how to contact him nowadays?

Thanks,

David Rastall



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[LUTE] Re: Ebony Pegs

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Craig:

Some information is available within the Lautenweltadressbuch.
http://bit.ly/S4CPmB

If you put 15 into the Date field, it will pull up all the instruments made in 
the 16th century (as well as those made or repaired in 1615, 1715, etc.).  In 
the Material field you will often see the material of which the back is made 
and occasionally some other portion of the instrument, though not likely the 
material for the pegs. 

You will see a lot of yew, maple and ivory backs.  You do have to allow for the 
presence of a few forgeries in the list, and not every museum report is likely 
to be completely accurate, so you have to be a bit skeptical of things like 
mahogany, for example.

Regards,

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
co...@medievalist.org
Sent: 28 September, 2013 19:49
To: Lute List
Subject: [LUTE] Ebony Pegs

Collected Wisdom,

I know that today we know there's too much silica in ebony to use as tuning 
pegs, but I'm curious as to whether using ebony for pegs was a period practice 
pre-1600? Can anyone point me to appropriate documentation on the types of 
woods used on stringed instruments prior to 1600?

Thank you as always.

Regards,
Craig





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[LUTE] Re: Summary intavolations 33

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Anton:

I strongly suggest that you go back to using Fronimo for your output files.


The software you are currently running is problematic in several ways:
- the font is not properly designed for tablature
  – stacked chords containing 'a,' 'd' and 'b' tab letters just become a
muddle.
  – an 'f' character over a 'b' character on adjacent strings is a visual
mess.
- having the dots on the tab characters instead of the rhythm signs is a
disaster, especially because the spacing between the character and the dot
is inconsistent
  – a dotted 'a' character, a dotted 'd' character and a 'd' character
without a dot are sometimes difficult to distinguish without a magnifying
glass.
 – an 'f' character and a dotted 'f' character are extremely difficult to
differentiate when reading rapidly.

Some of your ensemble arrangements look interesting.  I am hoping to have a
chance to try out a few of them next week at the Madison Early Music
Festival.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Anton Höger
Sent: 29 June, 2013 03:50
To: Lutelist List
Subject: [LUTE] Summary intavolations 33


Hi,

there are new Lute Intavolations on IMSLP

(and I overwirked my homepage-  http://lute-ensemble-tabulatures.npage.de/

Enjoy them 
Anton



for 4 lutes  (Unisono)

Hassler, Hans Leo   Canzon noni toni
http://imslp.org/wiki/Sacri_Concentus_(Hassler,_Hans_Leo)#IMSLP285861
and the same for 4 lutes ad Quartam (2a-lutes and 2 D-lutes) or 2 a-lutes
and 2 E-lutes (I always prefer this combination!)



for 4 lutes (Ad secundam--g,g,g,d-lutes)

Hassler, Hans Leo   Canzon duodecim tonig,g,g,D
http://imslp.org/wiki/Laudate_Dominum_omnes_gentes_(Hassler,_Hans_Leo)#IMSLP
284912



2 Sopranos  2 Lutes in g

Gagliano, Marco da  Aura in tanto lasciva   2 Sopranos  2 Lutes
http://imslp.org/wiki/Su_la_sponda_del_Tebro_humida_(Gagliano,_Marco_da)

2 Lutes Unisono



Kotter, HansPräludium in Fa
http://imslp.org/wiki/Präludium_in_Fa_(Kotter,_Hans)


Schmid, Bernhard d. Ä   Ein guter Dantz
http://imslp.org/wiki/Ein_guter_Dantz_(Schmid_I,_Bernhard)#IMSLP286343





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[LUTE] Re: Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge

[Daniel F. Heiman]

It's here:
http://cantastorie05.com/DowlandConference/registration/


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of William Samson
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 02:49
To: Hector; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge

   This sounds very interesting.  However I can't find details of the cost
   of attending the conference.  When will this be decided?

   Thanks,

   Bill Samson
   From: Hector hectorl...@mac.com
   To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2013, 21:09
   Subject: [LUTE] Celebrating Dowland's 450th Anniversary - Cambridge
   Dear all,
   The John Dowland 450th anniversary conference will take place at
   Fitzwilliam College Cambridge on 4-5 May 2013. This is a unique
   opportunity to hear and network with the best scholars and performers
   on the subject.
   The event includes:
   Concerts by:
   Nigel North (lute solo)
   Emma Kirkby and Jakob Lindberg (Lute song)
   The Rose Consort of Viols (consort songs and instrumental music)
   Paul O'Dette (lute solo)
   Presentations by:
   Christopher Hogwood/Francis Knights
   Anthony Rooley
   Kirsten Smith (New Castle University)
   Paul O'Dette
   and more...
   Master classes by:
   Nigel North
   Paul O'Dette
   For more information visit the website:
   [1]http://cantastorie05.com/DowlandConference/
   We particularly want students to attend/participate so please
   distribute as appropriate.
   Best wishes,
   Hector Sequera
   University of Birmingham
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[LUTE] Re: Traveling on Amtrak with a lute.

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Herb:

When I have traveled on Amtrak, the baggage handling system was my own two
hands.   I guess you can still tip a porter to carry things for you at some
larger stations, but mostly it is DIY.

Daniel

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of Herbert Ward
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 16:52
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Traveling on Amtrak with a lute.


Anyone with experience on Amtrak with a lute?

The main question, of course, is whether you can keep the lute away from the
baggage handling system, and otherwise safe.



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[LUTE] Re: Happy Thanksgiving

[Daniel F. Heiman]

Thanks, David.   Very nicely done.

I notice though that you do not list the singer among the musicians.  Hee
hee ;-)

Daniel

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Of David Tayler
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:35
To: lute
Subject: [LUTE] Happy Thanksgiving

Happy Thanksgiving from Voices of Music
   In between the Turkey and the football game, here is Dominique Labelle
   singing Vivaldi In turbato mare
   http://youtu.be/ZjAooY2vj0I?hd=1
   And also a special shout out to Luthval, who has cruised past the
   2,000,000 mark on his YouTube channel
   Awesome!

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[LUTE] Re: The Sick Tune

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   Alan:


   Thanks very much for this.  It is exactly what I needed.


   Regards,


   Daniel


   From: Alan Hoyle [mailto:adr...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 02:55
   To: Daniel F. Heiman
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] The Sick Tune


   Daniel


   Is this the setting? (scanned from the [Dd.9.33 facsimile])


   Best wishes


   Alan

   West Yorkshire

   On 2 August 2012 01:31, Daniel F. Heiman [1]heiman.dan...@juno.com
   wrote:

  Does anyone have this piece in tab they could send me (off list) or
  point me to a source on line?
  TIA
  Daniel Heiman
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[LUTE] The Sick Tune

[Daniel F. Heiman]

   Does anyone have this piece in tab they could send me (off list) or
   point me to a source on line?


   TIA


   Daniel Heiman

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[LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far?

[Daniel F. Heiman]

This process is amazingly intrusive.

As part of my ongoing effort to post video from the recent LSA Summer
Seminar on the LuteSocietyofAmerica channel on YouTube, I posted privately a
section of raw video from the Participants' Concert so the performers could
audition it prior to editing and posting it.  Note that there is no text in
the video, since I have not edited in the titles, and there is no meaningful
text on the descriptive page, only the filename:  20120629-01-Kathryn, and
the note that this is unedited video of their two lute songs.   For this
unlisted video, I have been flagged for matched third party content.
When I check on the reason, I learn that:  

Your video may include the following copyrighted content:  DOWLAND: LADY,
IF YOU SO, musical composition administered by:  One or more music
publishing rights collecting societies  

The piece named is in fact the **second** song in the file.   So someone has
been paid to create pattern matching software that checks the whole of every
video posted and to load a truly astounding number of sequences of notes
into the system.  Where will this end?

Scary.

Daniel Heiman 

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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf
Of David Tayler
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 18:09
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: TRe: YouTube going too far?

I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, they may claim that they
   actually own it (and then they are real trolls, after all). Then you
   have very little recourse.
   --- On Thu, 7/5/12, Sauvage Valery sauvag...@orange.fr wrote:

 From: Sauvage Valery sauvag...@orange.fr
 Subject: [LUTE] TRe: YouTube going too far?
 To: 'Lute List' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Date: Thursday, July 5, 2012, 7:55 AM

   I had often the same problem (Dowland, Narvaez, Milan, Bach...). I just
   disput the claim and usually they automatically withdrawn.
   Last one was about la Cancion del Emperador... I disput the claim (by
   Harry Fox Cie) but they maintain it, I had to delete the video, then to
   post
   it again, they again claim on it and I argue in the disput with the
   fact it
   was published in Spain in 1538 (so public domain), that I played
   myself,
   from the original source and I add the following text :
   Music and lyrics published in 1922 or earlier are in the Public Domain
   in
   the United States. No one can claim ownership of a song in the public
   domain. Public Domain music and songs may be used by anyone . . .
   without
   permission, without royalties, and without any limitations whatsoever.
   And sayed that the Harry fox claim was an abuse of the copyright laws.
   (I find the text quoted here :
   [1]http://www.pdinfo.com/ )
   I think it is important to write : Public domain, original source,
   and
   to mention the date of publication of the music played (and country
   too).
   Valery
   -Message d'origine-
   De : [2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu]
   De la part
   de David van Ooijen Envoye : jeudi 5 juillet 2012 16:15 A :
   [4]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Objet : [LUTE] Re: YouTube going too far?
   On 5 July 2012 16:05, Ron Andrico [5]praelu...@hotmail.com wrote:
To make a long story short, the only words Youtube needs to see in
response is that the music is in the Public Domain, or the person
posting the music is the verified copyright holder.  The challenge is
then automatically withdrawn.
   It is not. Because this is the second time YouTube challenges this
   particular (and not at all popular) video. I'm not in it for the money,
   but
   coorperation claiming Greensleeves simply feels wrong.
   I also post 'fingerstyle covers' of pop songs (I've just recorded
   Paradise
   by Sade, early music of sorts. I will upload later today).
   Obviously these are far more popular, and obviously there are copyright
   holders involved who claim their share. Fair enough. But Greensleeves
   ...
   David
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   4. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   5. file://localhost/mc/compose?to=praelu...@hotmail.com
   6. file://localhost/mc/compose?to%c3%9avidvanooi...@gmail.com
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: lute poems

[Daniel F Heiman]

Thomas:

With regard to poems in English, you should take a look at the program
and videos from the performance by Ronn McFarlane and Robert Aubry Davis
last Summer at the LSA Summer Seminar and Lute Festival.  Mr. Davis read
sections from eleven different poems that mention the lute.  Some are
quotations from Shakespeare plays (I am sure you do not want to post the
whole document for those (-;), and some are well known to the lute
community because they are the texts of lutesongs. 

The main page for the program is here, with MP3 files so you can hear
some of the readings:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2010/McFarlaneConcert/index
.html
The full texts of the poems Blame not my lute and Objections Against
the Immortality of the Soule are here:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2010/McFarlaneConcert/Texts
.html

Videos of Blame not My Lute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3GYM8b7L8Q
and Objections 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3GYM8b7L8Q

Feel free to reference these pages.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 23:03:59 +0100 Thomas Schall lauten...@lautenist.de
writes:
Hi all,
 
I've redisigned my homepage (http://www.lautenist.de) and would 
 like to
ask if some of you know poems related to the lute which are not 
 listed
on my page.
 
Thanks for your help and all the best
--
 
Thomas Schall
 
Doerflistrasse 2
 
CH-6078 Lungern
 
+41 41 678 00 79
 
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[LUTE] Beating time for Lully

[Daniel F Heiman]

Literally:
http://www.citedelamusiquelive.tv/Concert/0940463.html

Regards,

Daniel



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[LUTE] Who got this gig?

[Daniel F Heiman]

   [1]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/58/BcgOLMloEOI

   [2]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/59/YyNLx8n_49o

   [3]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/60/mf3Iks-iibA

   [4]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/61/ylJ04ARTGlY

   [5]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/62/lxnO9UyNMgg

   [6]http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/63/XYUbGAwnVfU

   There is a clear shot of the theorbo player at about 6:07-6:12 in part
   2/3 of the Handel Dixit Dominus at 0:24-0:27 and 12:04-12:07 in the
   Vivaldi.  On the whole a pretty nice performance (although the choral
   forces may be larger than necessary) and a very well made video.



   Daniel

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   2. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/59/YyNLx8n_49o
   3. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/60/mf3Iks-iibA
   4. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/61/ylJ04ARTGlY
   5. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/62/lxnO9UyNMgg
   6. http://www.youtube.com/user/protestant7#p/u/63/XYUbGAwnVfU


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[LUTE] Re: Like as the Lute question

[Daniel F Heiman]

Ben:

Gordon is a very careful musicologist, recently retired from Acadia
University, and you can trust his transcriptions.  He sometimes monitors
this list, but I don't know if he is on at present.

In fact the Scolar Press facsimile shows exactly the rhythm that appears
in the transcription in that section of the piece. (I did not check the
whole thing.)  The only obvious difference is that in the original the
measures are of variable length, while in the transcription they are
regularized to 4/2. 

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 22:10:10 -0500 be...@interlog.com writes:
 Hi, everyone! I've got a question about John Danyel's Like as the  
 Lute Delights. This is a version of it that I found online.
 
 http://www.acadiau.ca/~gcallon/www/archive/like.pdf
 
 On page three, second bar there is pause after the words her 
 touch,  
 and you can see that the tab denotes the rests, rather than having 
 the  
 word touch held for three beats.
 
 Does anyone familiar with this song know if this notation is 
 original?  
 Is Gordon J. Callon on this list-serve, or does anyone know him? Or 
 is  
 there an original source for the tab that can be accessed online?  
 Thanks! Ben S
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Annual list of lute summer schools - can you add anything?

[Daniel F Heiman]

The Links page on the Lute Society of America website has been updated
to reflect the advertisers in Vol. 45, no. 4.  There are five Summer
Seminar opportunities listed.  Hope you are able you participate in one
of them.
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/links/index.html#supplies

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:46:01 -0500 A.  J. Ness
arthurjn...@verizon.net writes:
Chris asks if you know of any appropriate summer schools not 
 listed
here, you let him know at [1]lute...@aol.com and he will include 
 the
school when he posts a final list on the web page of the Lute 
 Society
(U.K.).  Those lute schools are a wonderfujl experience, and 
 you'll
make friendships that will last a lifetime.
 
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From: [2]lute...@aol.com
To: [3]lute...@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 5:53 AM
Subject: Annual list of lute summer schools - can you add 
 anything?
 
Dear lute friends
 
 
Here is my annual list of summer schools which have either a lute 
 tutor
or where lutes are welcome, which I am about to put in Lute News
magazine, and on the lute society website.
 
 
At the bottom I have put summer schools which happened last year, 
 but
do not seem to have published details for this year.
 
 
Can you add anything to the list - have I missed any lute weeks 
 or
weekends?
 
 
Teachers!! please check I have got all the details of your 
 course
correct.
 
 
best wishes
 
Chris Goodwin
 
 
2011
 
 
Mar 25-27   Al manere minstrelsy, with the Dufay
Collective, at Jackdaws Music Education Trust, Great Elm, Frome 
 BA11
3NY, tel: 01373 812383
 
www.jackdaws.org.uk
 
 
Apr 1-3Songs to the lute and guitar, at West 
 Dean,
with Michael Fields, at West Dean College, West Dean, Chichester 
 PO18
0QZ tel 0844 4994408
 
or  from overseas ++44 1243 
 811301 /
fax: 811343   e: short.cour...@westdean.org.ukweb:
www.westdean.org.uk
 
 
Apr 12-19Easter Early Music Course at St 
 George's
School Ascot, contact Geri Coop,  tel: 07971 388 509
www.easterearlymusiccourse.org.uk
 
 
Apr 15-17   Lutefest at Benslow, with Jakob Lindberg, 
 Jacob
Heringman, Stewart McCoy, Jeni Melia, Sarah Groser, Benslow 
 Music
Trust, Little Benslow  Hills
 
off Benslow Lane, Hitchin, Herts 
 SG4
9RB. Tel: 01462 459446 (fax: 440171). Email: i...@benslow.org
 
 
Apr 25-May 1 Musica antica a Monterone/Sestone, Arezzo, 
 with
Sigrun Richter. Details:  www.sigrunrechter.de, e:
li...@sigrunrichter.de tel: ++39 0575 772219
 
 
Apr 26 - May 1Benslow Baroque Oratorio, Handel's 
 Theodora, at
Benslow Music Trust, contact, as above.
 
 
Apr 26-29   Renaissance Music at Easter, Wedgwood 
 Memorial
College, Stoke on Trent, Contact: 01782 372105
 
 
e: 
 wedgewood.memor...@stoke.gov.uk
web: www.stoke.gov.uk/wedgewoodmemorialcollege
 
May 11-15   Kloster Schlehdorf, Kurs Alte Musik, with 
 Axel
Wolf, Marion Teupel-Franck, tel: ++49 89/ 6012755  e:
schlehd...@flautotraverso.de
 
www.flautotraverso.de
 
 
May 27-29  Music from the Cradle of the Renaissance, 
 with
Sarah Stowe, Benslow Music Trust, Little Benslow Hills off 
 Benslow
Lane, Hitchin,
 
Herts SG4 9RB. Tel: 01462 459446 
 (fax:
440171). Email: i...@benslow.org   www.benslow.org
 
 
Jun 2-15   Tafelmusik Baroque Summer Music 
 Institute,
with Lucas Harris, lute continuo class, University of Toronto, 
 Canada,
tel. ++1 416 964 9562,
  ext: 241  e: t...@tafelmusik.org  web: www.tafelmusik.org
 
 
Jun 29-July 3   Oberlin baroque performance institute, 
 Back to
Bach. Contact: Baroque Performance Institute, Conservatory of 
 Music, 39
West College Street, Oberlin,
  Ohio 44074 1576, USA, tel: Anna Hoffmann ++1 440 775 8413 /fax: 
 8942
e: anna.hoffm...@oberlin.edu
 
web: 
 www.oberlin.edu/conservatory/summer/baroque-performance-institute/
 
 
Jun 19-25 Mediaeval and Renaissance Workshop Music from the Edges 
 of
Music  with Tim Rayborn, Sonoma State University, CA, contact: 
 San
Francisco Early Music
Society, PO Box 27495, Berkeley, CA 94127 0495, USA, tel: ++1 510 
 528
9808   email: sf...@sfems.org web: www.sfems.org
 
 
Jun 26-July 2Baroque Music Workshop The Italian 
 Connection
incl. baroque orchestra, Sonoma State University, CA, contact: 
 San
Francisco Early Music
 Society, details above.
 
 
July 2-9International Summer School of Early 
 Music,
Valtice, Czech Republic. with Brian Wright, 

[LUTE] Phil plays Wall Street

[Daniel F Heiman]

http://www.trinitywallstreet.org/webcasts/videos/music-arts/concerts-at-o
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[LUTE] Re: How to make a lute in five minutes

[Daniel F Heiman]

Martin:

There is no way Windows Movie Maker can animate those still photos. In
order to do proper video you have to buy a movie camera...;-)

Windows Movie Maker is actually quite decent for doing YouTube-quality
short clips.  Any other program you obtain will probably have the same
general structure -- a timeline onto which you drag and drop segments of
video, audio, titles, credits, trailers, etc.  In my experience there is
going to be a considerable learning period no matter what package you
use.  The best amateur program is probably Vegas, from Sony.  It is
relatively inexpensive, is available in several versions with different
levels of features, and you can download it and try it out for 30 days
before you have to pay.

By the way, very nice playing on the clip you just posted!  Cutting is
*not* easy.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 11:03:04 +0100 Martin Shepherd
mar...@luteshop.co.uk writes:
   (with a little help from Francis Cutting):
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMBMGRcRbG0
 
 and considerable hindrance from Windows Movie Maker.
 
 Lots of questions about how to do proper video coming up
 
 
 Best wishes,
 
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[LUTE] Re: Search - Ave Maria/Josquin

[Daniel F Heiman]

Hi, Laura:

Josquin obviously composed a number of different settings of the Ave
Maria text.  According to H. M. Brown (Instrumental Music Printed Before
1600), the original setting for the lute transcription in Phalese 1547(9)
is for six voices.  The citation for the vocal original is the motet
volume of Albert Smijers incomplete complete works of Josquin (1926).  No
other concordances are provided.

This clearly does not provide the fretboard layout or any of the
ornamentation added to the lute transcription, but it does give you the
underlying piece.

Hope that is of some help.

Regards,

Daniel

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:03:24 -0300 Laura Maschi lmas...@gmail.com
writes:
Hello,
 
I'm searching for Josquin's Ave Maria, the one published by 
 Phalese in
1547 according too what I have been told.
 
Need help, noone has it locally
 
Does anyone have a shareable - free copy of this?
 
thank you very much!
 
Laura
 
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[LUTE] Re: books of BLANK tablature

[Daniel F Heiman]

You can still print your own, punch the pages and put them into
three-ring binders (or whatever other configuration you prefer).  See the
first section of the page here:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/download/index.html

Daniel Heiman

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 10:01:26 -0400 Brad Walton gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca
writes:
 Sorry, folks, I meant books of blank tablature (not bland 
 tablature!)
 
 Brad
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Crawford Young

[Daniel F Heiman]

Does anyone have a current e-mail address for Crawford?

Please send to me privately.

Thanks,

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[LUTE] LSA Lute Festival Seminar

[Daniel F Heiman]

At this point we have concert programs posted for more than half of the
individual performances.  

See the Seminars page at 

http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org

Come and join us for a week of great music!

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[LUTE] Re: My god...my lute is on strike!

[Daniel F Heiman]

Omar:

1) Are the strings all breaking at the same place (i.e. all breaking at
the point they cross over the nut)?
If so, check for roughness at that location.

2)  Whose strings are you buying?  
It may be that you have received a weak batch from your supplier – try a
different source.

3) What material are you using?   
If gut, try a Nylgut chanterelle for the Summer.  The sound of the
chanterelle is usually the least dependent on the material of which it is
made.

Daniel
 
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:27:54 +0300 Omer Katzir kome...@gmail.com writes:
 It goes like this,
 Yesterday I drove to the other side of the country with my 10c, she 
 never goes out unless i'm going to a lesson, and it was hot day, 
 very hot day. 
 First I wanted to tune, and *SNAP* first string snapped right on my 
 face. Lucky for me, I had two more strings with me, so I tried to 
 replace it. But, my lute didn't wanted to...
 these strings also snapped and the peg gave me hard time spinning 
 it. Finally we gave up and played on Levi's lute (which is also 10c, 
 but much different then mine)
 
 I said ok, she might need some rest, so I wanted to replace that 
 string today, and give her a rest until tomorrow. But no! she still 
 don't want the string on her, snapped again, right into my eye!
 The  heat, and the cold also changed my frets, which is bad...but I 
 can handle the frets. I can't handle to be stringless. 
 
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[LUTE] Whodunit?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Who is the lutenist in this?

http://www.youtube.com/v/otrLM1FmbXk

Looks to me like it might be Ron Andrico, but it is hard to tell with the
hazy focus and his being mostly at the distorted edge of the field of
view.

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[LUTE] Re: Whodunit?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Thanks, Jean-Marie.

The guitarist is identified by name as William Simms in this video:
http://vimeo.com/2839822
and, although he gets amazingly little screen time, he does appear very
briefly at 2:45 and 6:15.  

It is obvious that this is the same person as in my query.

Regards,

Daniel 

On Wed, 26 May 2010 13:13:46 +0200 Jean-Marie Poirier
jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr writes:
 Same balditude with Bill Simms and he is recorded as a regular member 
 of Appolo's Fire, the ensemble featured in this video. On Vimeo 
 there is another video of the same ensemble, and apparently the same 
 concert, where Bill Simms is indicated and seen towards the end, as 
 playing baroque guitar. So I would definitely vote Bill Simms (much 
 less risky than some other votes...;-)
 
 Best,
 
 Jean-Marie
 
 =
   
 == En réponse au message du 26-05-2010, 11:59:18 ==
 
 
 Bill Carter, judging by the balditude.
 RT
 
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jean-Marie Poirier jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
 To: lute lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:43 AM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: hodunit?
 
 
  Could be William Simms, imho...
 
  best,
 
  Jean-Marie
 
  =
 
  == En réponse au message du 26-05-2010, 10:10:39 ==
 
 
 Who is the lutenist in this?
 
 http://www.youtube.com/v/otrLM1FmbXk
 
 Looks to me like it might be Ron Andrico, but it is hard to tell 
 with the
 hazy focus and his being mostly at the distorted edge of the 
 field of
 view.
 
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[LUTE] Re: New Youtube links

[Daniel F Heiman]

Martin:

The Duo tutti di fantasia is in both versions of Fronimo (1568/9 and
1584).  It appears in mensural notation rather than tab.
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k582176.image.hl.r=fronimo.f87.langE
N.pagination

If you make a performing edition, please feel free to send it to me for
posting on the Fronimo page:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/associated/Galilei/index.html

Regards,

Daniel

On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:59:09 + Martin Shepherd
mar...@luteshop.co.uk writes:
 Dear Jean-Marie,
 
 Excellent!  I really liked the playing and the video - it's good to 
 have 
 the close-ups!  Dare I ask for any technical information about the 
 equipment you used?
 
 Strangely, I didn't know the Galilei piece.  Is it in Il Fronimo 
 (1584)?
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Martin
 
 Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
  Just a quick reminder to let you know that I have uploaded 3 vids 
 on Youtube, 3 lute duets by A Due Liuti, i.e. Thierry Meunier and 
 yours truly. Hope you enjoy them. They all appear on our duet CD En 
 despit des faulx mesdisans.
 
  Please have a look at :
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kIxQs-6mF4   : a Dump by J. 
 Johnson
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd-U35Z3Ow4   : Canono by F. da 
 Milano
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMjm_1SpDTw   : Duo tutti di 
 fantasia by V. Galilei
 
  All the best,
 
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[LUTE] Re: Dalza question.

[Daniel F Heiman]

The two most important manuscript sources known to survive from the
pre-print era are known as Pesaro and Thibault.  

May I suggest that you purchase A History of the Lute from the LSA? 
(See the website for details.)

Spring is also good, but he focuses pretty closely on the British Isles.

Daniel Heiman

On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:24:25 -0500 Christopher Stetson
cstet...@smith.edu writes:
Hi,
 
Thanks to all for great answers to my calata question and a good
ensuing discussion.  It leads me to another question, that came 
 up as I
was lying in bed thinking about my upcoming program, to whit:  
 are
there any significant manuscript sources of lute tablature that 
 predate
the first printed books?
 
Thanks again,
 
Chris.
 
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[LUTE] Paul Live in Valdagno 1992

[Daniel F Heiman]

   There are now 4 segments on this guy's Youtube page.  Looks like he is
   intending to post the whole concert.



   [1]http://www.youtube.com/user/pelandroide62#p/u/0/k0Rz27lLECM



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[LUTE] LSA Summer Seminar Registration Open

[Daniel F Heiman]

Seminar Director Phil Rukavina has put together a very nice program  for
the 2010 LSA Summer Seminar, and descriptive material together with a
registration form are posted on the Seminars page of the LSA website.  
Please join us for a week of immersion in all things lute at the end of
June.

http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org 

Regards,

Daniel Heiman
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[LUTE] Viola-Matic

[Daniel F Heiman]

Decidedly off-topic, but something to think about for folks performing
under less than ideal weather conditions.  With a matched set of
fluorocarbon strings

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf2w2zMNvzE

*This is a real playable musical instrument.*  (Not quite as inexpensive
as the tag line suggests.)

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[LUTE] Re: plucked (and plonked) trio

[Daniel F Heiman]

Some nice photos from the LSA Lute Festival concert are here
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2006/CYoungConcert.html
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2006/CYoungConcertPhotos.ht
ml

Unfortunately I have been unable to get Crawford to choose some of the
audio clips so I can post them.  Margit was very nice about granting
permission.  She can also be heard very prominently (and seen in the
background -- only person standing other than Philippe) in this amusing
video of Christine Pluhar's organization:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ-VsKB_tNw

Regards,

Daniel 

On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 17:52:41 -0700 Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com writes:
 
 Hi Stuart,
 
 Margit actually flew out to the LSA seminar in Ohio a few years ago 
 to  
 play duos with Crawford. Yes, it's in the hammered dulcimer family,  
 
 yep, sure sounds great and believable in that context and, oh yeah, 
 is  
 she ever in control!
 
 It looks like a pretty versatile instrument and very overlooked. I'd 
  
 think most of the lute rep would be available: certainly tenors with 
  
 whomever, formal ensemble music and I'm sure they made solo  
 arrangements of popular vocal or ensemble music. The latter could  
 range from tenor-contrapunto settings, to (mostly) strict 3-part  
 settings of their own --just like the lute rep. Furthermore, if its  
 
 metal strings and good simple solid body was as portable as the lute 
  
 and twice as durable I'm sure there were those that took advantage 
 and  
 specialized in it.
 
 There's a guy here in Berkeley who's been playing one on street  
 corners for 30 years. I'm pretty sure that for some of it it was  
 keeping him fed. A tradition that goes back centuries, if not  
 millenia, in hammered dulcimer circles.
 
 Sean
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 21, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote:
 
  http://www.lewon.de/inhalt/projekte/ensembles_dulce.php?navbat=03
 
  Ont this page, under 'Tonbeispiele' there are three pieces,  
  including one by Obrecht,  'Nec mihi nec tibi'. Jon Banks claims  
 
  that  this Obrecht untexted chanson was actually conceived and  
  composed for three plucked instruments but here in this Ensemble  
 
  Dulce Melos version the three instruments are: ? at least one  
  plucked thing and, surprisingly what seems to be  a hammered  
  dulcimer. The three instruments create a strange sound; very nice, 
  
  very beguiling. I was really surprised to hear a hammered dulcimer 
  
  (if it is one) in this context (of quite sophisticated polyphony)  
 
  and the as can be heard,  the player (Margit Übellacker) is in  
  complete command.
 
  The instrument Margit Übellacker is playing is described as a 
 dulce  
  melos, after  Henri Arnault de Zwolle: fully chromatic over 3  
  octaves. But Margit sounds like she is playing with hammers and  
  Henri is definitely  sniffy about hammers and his dulce melos  
  proper  has an elaborate keyboard mechanism. Iconography of 15th  
 
  century hammered dulcimers suggests long, thin instruments with a  
 
  limited range but Margit's instrument looks a monster by 
 contrast.
 
 
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[LUTE] Brazilian duet a la Dowland

[Daniel F Heiman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcsSPzr7ays

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[LUTE] Re: Recording yourself

[Daniel F Heiman]

Ned:

The main reason for choosing a webcam rather than a video camera is
obvious:  price.  Webcams can be purchased for less than $50.  But again,
obviously, there is going to be a tradeoff for that low price, and that
comes in the lower resolution and lower image quality of webcam output
vs. that from a hand-held video camera.  A typical webcam may only put
out 640x480 images as its native resolution, and anything higher must be
interpolated, leading to pixelation.  The sensor in a webcam may also use
CMOS technology rather than the CCD technology that is more-or-less
standard in a video camera, so the dynamic range (light to dark) will be
somewhat less.  The software package you get with the webcam should allow
you to capture video of your playing to a computer, but check the specs
before you purchase.

Older computers may impose limitations as well, in not being able to
handle the data stream effectively.  Anything with a USB2 port should be
fine.

Daniel Heiman

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:38:11 EDT nedma...@aol.com writes:
I've found it helpul to make audio recordings of pieces I'm 
 working
on.  Now I'd like to add video, which I think would be even more
helpful.  I could buy a video camera, but am wondering if a 
 webcam
would allow me to record directly to - and view on - my 
 computer.
Anyone out there doing this, or have ideas on the best 
 procedure?
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Welcome to the Lute mailing list!

[Daniel F Heiman]

Indeed, the file of transcriptions from Siena posted to the Fronimo site
by Jason Kortis (and containing Doug Towne's work in addition to his own)
stopped at f. 69v.  The Spagna pieces are on ff. 74v-76r.

The facsimile is well worth purchasing, even at 120 Euros or so.  The
musical material is wonderful, and the information on the concordances,
done by Arthur Ness, is extremely valuable.

Daniel Heiman

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 21:16:41 +0200 Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de
writes:
  where can I find the 4 modis of “Spagna detta Lamire” from the
  Siena
  Lutebook?
 
  I think Jason Kortis entabulated most,if not all the Siena Lute 
 book
  into French Tab and it was on the Fronimo site (Yahoo groups).
 
 
 I think NOT the Spagna :-(
 
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[LUTE] Re: Welcome to the Lute mailing list!

[Daniel F Heiman]

Anton:

The Siena Lute Book is available in facsimile, published by Minkoff:  
http://www.omifacsimiles.com/cats/minkoff.pdf
Purchase information here:
http://www.omifacsimiles.com/contactomi.html

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Tue, 4 Aug 2009 08:39:05 +0200 =?iso-8859-1?Q?Anton_H=F6ger?=
diwa-animat...@t-online.de writes:
 Hello,
 
 this is my first posting:
 
 where can I find the 4 modis of “Spagna detta Lamire” from the 
 Siena
 Lutebook?
 
 
 Many thanks in advance
 
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[LUTE] Re: Tune Index

[Daniel F Heiman]

Leonard:

You are probably looking for the Music Supplement to Lute News 68
(December 2003).  That contains Craus Recercars on p. 8 and  p. 22

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:33:39 -0400 Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net
writes:
 Is there an index of pieces published in the (British) Lute 
 Society
 Quarterly?  I'm looking for a piece by Craus (recercar?) that I'm 
 sure I
 found in there, and I'd would like some hints before I go wading 
 through my
 collection.
 
 Thanks and regards,
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[LUTE] Re: Easy duets

[Daniel F Heiman]

   Rod:



   On the website of the Lute Society of America there are a few duets,
   which you may or may not be consider easy.  Go to

   [1]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org

   1) select the Publications page, and the section entitled Editons
   contains two English duets edited by Lyle Nordstrom

   2) select the Lute Projects page, and on the Fronimo Project page under
   that, the Modern Editions section contains a canonic duet entitled
   Fuga a l'unisono dopo sei tempi.  In fact also the first one on the
   list, the [2]Cantilene `a 2, could very easily be deconstructed into
   a simple piece for two lutes, since it is very strictly written as a
   two voice fantasia.



   Regards,



   Daniel Heiman



   On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:52:48 +0100 Rod [3]sally...@tiscali.co.uk
   writes:
Folks,
   
Can you recommend any easy duets for 2 beginners. We are currently
massacaring the Almane form the Sampson/Toellemache.  Similare
pieces
either in French Tab or guitar arrangements would be welcome.
   
cheers,
Rod
   
   
   
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[LUTE] Re: Re: [LUTE] Re: München 266

[Daniel F Heiman]

The images are really high resolution, so they print up very nicely.

Danke schön!

Daniel Heiman

On Wed, 13 May 2009 20:31:53 +0200 Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de
writes:
  
  http://www.file-upload.net/download-1636531/Munich-ms266.pdf.html
  
 
 ..seems to be a hit :-)) Already 150 downloads in 12 hours.
 Ok, some may have downloaded it several times to have some copies 
 :-)
 
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[LUTE] Re: Elias Mertel

[Daniel F Heiman]

OMI still lists the facsimile at $162.  It is generally quite legible,
requiring no transcription.
http://omifacsimiles.com/cats/lute.pdf   (page 17 of this catalog)

Daniel

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:21:18 -0500 Stephen Arndt
stephenar...@earthlink.net writes:
Dear All,
 
 
Goeran Crona has gifted us with a wonderful transcription of 
 Elias
Mertels preludes and phantasies from the Hortus musicalis novus. 
 Since
he produced his work to make this music accessible to 
 guitarists,
however, the basses are often transposed up an octave. I am 
 interested
in acquiring a version of the entire work with the basses at the
original pitch.
 
 
Apart from Richard Darsies selections, which I already have, the 
 only
thing I have been able to find is the Hortus musicalis novus1615
Tablature de luth franc,aise. Preludes, fantaisies et fugues 
 offered by
the Maison de Musique Ancienne in Paris for 114 euros. (They also 
 have
two other volumes, which I suspect are Richard Darsies, for 25 
 euros
each.)
 
 
I have written to inquire about this edition, but my e-mails to 
 the
address given on their website (i...@musiqueancienne) keep 
 bouncing
back. Does anyone have a working e-mail address for them?
 
 
Also, do any of you have this edition, and, if so, can you tell 
 me
whether it is complete or a group of selections? Does anyone know 
 of an
outlet in the States that might carry it (I wasnt able to find 
 one)?
Does anyone know of another edition (German tablature would be 
 fine,
since I wont be playing from it but only adding an 8 to Goerans
transcription to indicate the lower basses)?
 
 
I would appreciate any information anyone could give me.
 
 
Many thanks,
 
 
Stephen Arndt
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Toyota Theorbo for rent, low mileage

[Daniel F Heiman]

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:59:30 +0100 Mark Wheeler l...@pantagruel.de
writes:
snip 
 
 It seems that the 2 main factors for the trend of toy theorbos 
 (more a
 definition of usage than size) and single strung archlutes are the
 availability of modern string materials and the size of car boots. 
 Both of
 which are not evil, just modern factors that did not exist in the 
 past. 
 
 All the best
 Mark
 
Mark:

It is clear that if you have some imagination or ingenuity, the size of
your theorbo is not limited by the size of your automobile...
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/old/Cleveland2006/Departure.html
(Scroll down to the third and fourth photos.)

Daniel Heiman



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[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Arthur:

The files are at the top of my Member page where it says You added 3
songs, and are labeled jeune##.pdf.  If you select one of the link
buttons to the left of the filename with the right mouse button and
choose Open in a new window... or Save file as.. as Sean suggests, it
should load correctly.

The files are the same ones you saw in 1989, except that they have been
converted to PDF format..

Daniel

On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:47:34 -0500 Arthur Ness
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I can confirm what Daniel says.  I too use SCORE, and all of the 
 music
 and the tablature (for the Marco pieces) was done with that 
 program.
 The prgram is built so that it would be easy to directly change the
 Italian tabature into French.  Daniel has been particularly
 resourceful in selecting appropriate type for French tablature.
 
 I saw some of his work many years ago.  I can't find the example he 
 
 mentions on his web page.
 =AJN (Boston, Mass.)=
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:20 PM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced 
 users?
 
 
 | Since the discussion is about music printing and publishing
 software, I
 | have to put in my 2 cents worth.
 |
 | I can claim that I am a programmer also, since I write (sometimes
 sloppy)
 | HTML, but this entry method (as in alexander's message below) is 
 way
 too
 | much hassle for me.  I will contend (and defend this contention 
 to
 | whatever length someone desires in a debate) that SCORE is the
 ultimate
 | program for setting high quality tablature.  Yes, Fronimo is a
 reasonably
 | well-thought-out tablature program, and Francesco has done a
 marvelous
 | job of creating beautiful and highly legible fonts, but Fronimo
 still
 | lacks the flexibility necessary for high-quality publishing, and
 SCORE
 | had that already more than twenty years ago.
 |
 | Output I created in 1989 is here:
 | http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/Libertylute
 | Yes, I know that PDF files were not around then, but the 
 PostScript
 files
 | I just converted into these PDFs bear creation dates of 16 July
 1989.
 | This transcription was done a few weeks after I acquired the
 program, so
 | I used a standard font (Zapf Chancery).  Remember, you couldn't 
 just
 | download any font you want off the Internet in those days -- it 
 took
 a
 | while to locate and purchase ware back then.  I was obviously not
 | completely satisfied with the solution for the d tablature
 character,
 | since I used a couple of different versions.  Now days, lots of 
 nice
 tab
 | fonts are available, and it is much less difficult to create your
 own
 | than it was then.  The point here is the spacing of the music and
 the
 | page layout in general.  Any almost infinitesimal variation in 
 staff
 size
 | and placement is available.  Any almost infinitesimal variation 
 in
 the
 | size and location of any object on the staff is available. Each
 object on
 | the page, including each character, has its own parameters, and 
 they
 are
 | editable by the user.  The horizontal spacing of the ojects on a
 staff is
 | done with a simple letter command (LJ, for line up and 
 justify),
 | generating this effortless-appearing layout.
 |
 | Regards,
 | Daniel Heiman
 |
 | On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:54:24 -0500 alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
 |  Lilypond is not in the lute tablature business. However, the
 |  abctab2ps - is. For the love of VIm - it is perfect. This file:
 | 
 |  X:1
 |  T:Lacrimae
 |  C:Dowland, 1600
 |  L:1/4
 |  M:C|
 |  K:Bb
 |  %%pageheight 11 in
 |  %%staffwidth 7.7 in
 |  %%titlespace 0.2 in
 |  %%musicspace 0.2 in
 |  %%staffsep 0.5 in
 |  %%systemsep 0.5 in
 |  %%indent 0.5 in
 |  %%leftmargin .5 in
 |  %%tabfontsize 11
 |  %%tabfontscale 1.4
 |  %%barnumbers 0
 |  %%scale 0.7
 |  %%taballflags=f
 |  %%strictness1 0.5
 |  %
 |  V:1 clef=alto name=Viol
 |  V:2 clef=frenchtab name=Lute
 |  %
 |  %System 1
 |  [V:1] g3 f/e/ d2 b4 a g ^f4 | g2 d3 dff | e2 c2 d3 a | b2g2a2f2 
 |
 g1
 |  b3/2 a/ g1 ^f2 b2 |
 |  [V:2] [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b ,,d2
 |  [,aa,c] ,a |\
 |  [,,bcca1] ,a a ,a [,d,,,d/],b,a,,d [,ab,,d1] ,,a |
 |  [,,d,a] ,,b [,,a,d] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,,,c ,,,b2 |\
 |  [,,,c,a1] ,a3/2 ,,d/ [,abc],c [,daa1] ,,d [,aa,c2]|
 [,,,cd1]
 |  ,a ,,d2 [,aa,c] [,ab,,d1] ,d |
 |  %System 2
 |  [V:1]  a g g3 ^f/=e/ ^f2 | g8 || \
 |  g/G/B/c/ d/e/c/d/ B/c/A/B/ G/A/B/c/ d/c/B/A/ G/A//B// A/G/
 |  [V:2]  [,bd,a] ,,b [,,ded] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,a2 ,,d1 |\
 |  [,,ccca3/2] ,b/ ,a ,,d ,,c ,,a [,ac,,a1] ,,,c ,a2 ||\
 |  [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b
 |  %System 3
 |  [V:1] ^F/D/[K:bass]A/d/ D/[K:alto]d//c// d//c//B//A// |\
 |  B//A//G//F// G//F//G//A// B/A/ G//A//B//c// d//c//B//A//
 |  B//c//d//e// f/e/ d//f//e//d// |\
 |  e/d/ e//d//c//B// c/d/e/c/
 |  [V:2]  ,,d2 [,aa,c

[LUTE] Re: lilypond for tab using mac, any experienced users?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Since the discussion is about music printing and publishing software, I
have to put in my 2 cents worth.

I can claim that I am a programmer also, since I write (sometimes sloppy)
HTML, but this entry method (as in alexander's message below) is way too
much hassle for me.  I will contend (and defend this contention to
whatever length someone desires in a debate) that SCORE is the ultimate
program for setting high quality tablature.  Yes, Fronimo is a reasonably
well-thought-out tablature program, and Francesco has done a marvelous
job of creating beautiful and highly legible fonts, but Fronimo still
lacks the flexibility necessary for high-quality publishing, and SCORE
had that already more than twenty years ago.  

Output I created in 1989 is here:
http://lutegroup.ning.com/profile/Libertylute
Yes, I know that PDF files were not around then, but the PostScript files
I just converted into these PDFs bear creation dates of 16 July 1989. 
This transcription was done a few weeks after I acquired the program, so
I used a standard font (Zapf Chancery).  Remember, you couldn't just
download any font you want off the Internet in those days -- it took a
while to locate and purchase ware back then.  I was obviously not
completely satisfied with the solution for the d tablature character,
since I used a couple of different versions.  Now days, lots of nice tab
fonts are available, and it is much less difficult to create your own
than it was then.  The point here is the spacing of the music and the
page layout in general.  Any almost infinitesimal variation in staff size
and placement is available.  Any almost infinitesimal variation in the
size and location of any object on the staff is available. Each object on
the page, including each character, has its own parameters, and they are
editable by the user.  The horizontal spacing of the ojects on a staff is
done with a simple letter command (LJ, for line up and justify),
generating this effortless-appearing layout.

Regards,
Daniel Heiman

On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 19:54:24 -0500 alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Lilypond is not in the lute tablature business. However, the 
 abctab2ps - is. For the love of VIm - it is perfect. This file:
 
 X:1
 T:Lacrimae
 C:Dowland, 1600
 L:1/4
 M:C|
 K:Bb
 %%pageheight 11 in
 %%staffwidth 7.7 in
 %%titlespace 0.2 in
 %%musicspace 0.2 in
 %%staffsep 0.5 in
 %%systemsep 0.5 in
 %%indent 0.5 in
 %%leftmargin .5 in
 %%tabfontsize 11 
 %%tabfontscale 1.4
 %%barnumbers 0
 %%scale 0.7
 %%taballflags=f
 %%strictness1 0.5
 %
 V:1 clef=alto name=Viol
 V:2 clef=frenchtab name=Lute
 %
 %System 1
 [V:1] g3 f/e/ d2 b4 a g ^f4 | g2 d3 dff | e2 c2 d3 a | b2g2a2f2 | g1 
 b3/2 a/ g1 ^f2 b2 |
 [V:2] [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b ,,d2 
 [,aa,c] ,a |\
 [,,bcca1] ,a a ,a [,d,,,d/],b,a,,d [,ab,,d1] ,,a | 
 [,,d,a] ,,b [,,a,d] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,,,c ,,,b2 |\
 [,,,c,a1] ,a3/2 ,,d/ [,abc],c [,daa1] ,,d [,aa,c2]| [,,,cd1] 
 ,a ,,d2 [,aa,c] [,ab,,d1] ,d |
 %System 2
 [V:1]  a g g3 ^f/=e/ ^f2 | g8 || \
 g/G/B/c/ d/e/c/d/ B/c/A/B/ G/A/B/c/ d/c/B/A/ G/A//B// A/G/ 
 [V:2]  [,bd,a] ,,b [,,ded] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,a2 ,,d1 |\
 [,,ccca3/2] ,b/ ,a ,,d ,,c ,,a [,ac,,a1] ,,,c ,a2 ||\
 [,,bcca3] ,,a1 [,,bc,a] ,,d ,a ,,,a [,,,cd] ,,d/,,b
 %System 3
 [V:1] ^F/D/[K:bass]A/d/ D/[K:alto]d//c// d//c//B//A// |\
 B//A//G//F// G//F//G//A// B/A/ G//A//B//c// d//c//B//A// 
 B//c//d//e// f/e/ d//f//e//d// |\
 e/d/ e//d//c//B// c/d/e/c/ 
 [V:2]  ,,d2 [,aa,c] ,a |\
  [,,bcca1] ,a a ,a [,d,,,d/],b,a,,d [,ab,,d1] ,,a | [,,d,a] ,,b 
 [,,a,d] ,,,c 
 %System 4
 [V:1] d/A/^F/D/ [K:bass] D/d/ a/g//a// |\
  b/g/d/G/ [K:alto] G/B/A/B/ A/G/F/E/ D/A/G/A/ | G//A//B//c// 
 d//e//f//d// g//f//e//d// e//d//c//B// A/[K:bass]D/^f/A/ [K:alto] 
 d/=f/e/d/ |
 [V:2] [,,a,c] ,,,c ,,,b2 |\
 [,,,c,a1] ,a3/2 ,,d/ [,abc] ,c [,daa1] ,,d [,aa,c2] | [,,,cd1] ,a 
 ,,d2 [,aa,c] [,ab,,d1] ,d | 
 %System 5
 [V:1]  e//d//c//B// c//G//A//=B// c//_B//A//G// A//B//c//B// 
 A//G//^F//=E// D AG/A/ | G\
 g3-g/d/=B/G/ G2 || [K:alto] b3 a g f b3 a/g/ a2 |
 [V:2] [,bd,a] ,,b [,,ded] ,,,c [,,a,c] ,a2 ,,d1 | [,,ccca3/2] ,b/ ,a 
 ,,d ,,c ,,a [,ac,,a1] ,,,c
 ,a2 || [,dff,d4] [,aba,d2] [,dbad] [,,,ca1] ,b ,,d d 
 |] 
 
 produces this result: 

http://wa4.images.onesite.com/vokaria.onesite.com/large/lachrimaeclipped.
jpg?v=156150
 
 There are different fonts available etc. 
 http://www.lautengesellschaft.de/cdmm/
 
 alexander
 
 Luca Manassero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thank you.
 I guess one needs to do some really serious tweaking to get a 
 lute-like
 tablature output, thou.
 Best,
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[LUTE] Re: Baroque lute in......Saskatoon?

[Daniel F Heiman]

For some reason I did not receive the original message to which the
message below is a reply.

I just spent last week in Saskatoon on a errand unrelated to music. 
Nevertheless, I was able to get together with Travis Carey one evening
and play duets for a couple of hours.  

Travis is a luthier who currently lives about two hours drive north of
Saskatoon.  However, 1) I am pretty sure he does not currently have a
Baroque lute available, and 2) he is moving to Vancouver next week for an
extended period to work in the shop with Grant Tomlinson.  

By the way, the weather was gorgeous -- warm and sunny -- all week;
almost always warmer than it was in the Chicago area at the same time.

Regards,
Daniel Heiman

On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:11:08 +0200 David van Ooijen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 2008/10/7 Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Dear all,
 
I'm giving a paper at a conference in Saskatoon (Canada) for 
 which I
need a baroque lute
 ..
details of this very interesting conference on things French 
 baroque.
 
 
 What an utterly cool, and probably equally cold, conference! The 
 list
 of lectures reads like something out of Monthy Python. ;-) Wish I
 could be there, just to be amazed. Will there be something like 
 this
 next year, again? I hope to be picking up my own baroque lute in
 Canada by then, alas for you left-handed, but you can twist my arm 
 to
 play your examples. ;-)
 
 David
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Where is the oldest?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Joshua:

Answers to questions like that may be found by checking the
Lautenweltadressbuch on the LSA website.  (It is one of the Lute
Projects.)  

Searching in the year field, typing in '150' brings up three
instruments that apparently may have been made before 1510.  Two are in a
private collection if Vienna, Austria, and one is in Copenhagen.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 15:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Horn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Does anyone know where the oldest surviving lute is? - and how old it 
 is?
 
 Joshua
 
 
   
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Javob Hes

[Daniel F Heiman]

On the website of the Cité de la Musique there are several nice photos. 
Unfortunately, there is no good way to provide a URL to get you there
directly.  So, go to the main collections page here:

http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/masc/

On the left, select
Collections du Musée
then 
Instruments et oeuvres d'art
then on the search page enter 
luth 
in the box labeled Mot-clé(s) : 
and enter 
Hes
in the box labeled Facteur, auteur ou sujet :
and finally click on Rechercher at the bottom 

It is a very nice instrument.  The first lute I purchased was based on
that model, and it is still my favorite.

Daniel Heiman

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Henry Villca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Dear friends, 
 
Does anyone have pictures of the lute Jacob Hes (1586) is the 
 one that is in Paris, unfortnatelly I could not se that instrument 
 because the museum is closed till next year. 
 
 Thank you !!
 Warm Regards 
 Henry.
 
 
   
 
 
 
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[LUTE] LSA Seminar reports solicited

[Daniel F Heiman]

If you attended the 2008 LSA Summer Seminar a few weeks ago, we would
like to have your photos and written impressions of the courses and
concerts you attended included in the summary of the event to be
published in the August issue of the Quarterly (particularly if you are
one of those who raised your hand to volunteer during the general
meeting, but even if you are not).   Material needs to be received by the
18th of July.  Please submit hard copy writeup or photos on CD to the
editor for that issue, 

Jocelyn Nelson
School of Music
336 Fletcher Music Center
East Carolina University
Greenville, NC 27858

or preferably by e-mail at the address for her posted on the about LSA
page of our website.

I would also welcome photos (ideally with captions or descriptive
material included) for inclusion in the overview on the LSA Website.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman
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[LUTE] Re: Lute Quartet on BBC Early music show

[Daniel F Heiman]

Speaking of lute quartets, the Venere Lute Quartet concert page from the
recent Lute Festival on the LSA website now has sound clips available. 
(Some of the other concerts are getting sound files attached as well, and
a few pictures are now in place.)  See the Seminars page.

Daniel Heiman


On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 15:40:30 +0200 G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Interesting stuff on Digital Radio this week:
 
 On Sunday's edition there is a segment with a lute quartet playing
 Kapsberger between ca. min. 18:00 and lasting to ca. 26:00 at
 
 http://tinyurl.com/5sksk
 
 Also the Saturday show is semi-relevant with a program about 
 musicians at 
 the court of Christian IV also Dowland (Lacrimae of course) at ca. 
 min. 
 21:00 played by Fretwork and with madrigal performances by a.o. 
 Anthony 
 Rooley's Consort and the Hilliard Ensemble, organ music at Roskilde, 
 a.s.o.
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.

[Daniel F Heiman]

Jean-Marie:

I think I understand what is going on.  Although the site is again open,
a large majority of the music is still unavailable.  Only a few of the
files I tried to access actually downloaded; the rest generated a message
saying that the file is still blocked.  Try Attaingnant (Deux Livres
d'Orgue) and see if that works for you.

Daniel Heiman

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 20:07:59 +0200 Jean-Marie Poirier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Sill an anti-French stratagem ;-))) ??? 
 Never mind, we've got the wine. Gallo's zinfandel, for instance.. 
 ;-)))
 
 Best,
 
 Jean-Marie, (couldn't help that reallysilly joke. French style, 
 maybe g !   )   
 
 === 04-07-2008 19:56:35 ===
 
 
 No problems on my end. XP.
 RT
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 To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; The Other 
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 Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 1:17 PM
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Facsimiles.
 
 
 I have the same problem as Jean-Marie with Windows XP
  and the official Acrobat reader...
 
  B.
 
 
  Perhaps your version of PDF reader is not supported.
 
  Check out
 
  http://imslp.org/wiki/IMSLP:File_formats
 
  to see if you have a compatible PDF reader.
 
 
  On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 18:10 +0200, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
  Thank you Peter for the IMSL project info, but each time I try 
 to open a 
  pdf from their site I get a message error saying the file is 
 corrupt or 
  whatever... Is it the same with you ?
 
 
 
 
 
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[LUTE] Re: Ronn McFarlane to perform in Cleveland

[Daniel F Heiman]

Umm, according to the posted schedule, Ronn's concert is actually on
Wednesday evening, 25 June at 7:30 PM, in Harkness Chapel on the campus
of Case Western Univesity.

Daniel Heiman

On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:11:23 -0400 Suzanne Konefal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Be sure to check out Ronn McFarlane - performing live on Sunday June  
 
 22nd as part of the Lute Society of America Summer Seminar, in  
 Cleveland, OHIO!!
 
 
 Suzanne Konefal
 Director of Marketing and Business Development
 Dorian Recordings / Sono Luminus
 540-592-3677
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[LUTE] LSA Seminar update

[Daniel F Heiman]

Please note that advance registration is now closed for the LSA Seminar
starting next weekend.  You are still cordially invited to attend, since
registrations will be accepted on site, and single tickets will be
available for each of the concerts, if you are unable to find time to
participate in the whole event.  Most of the concert programs are now on
line on the Seminars page of the LSA website.
http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org

Regards,
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[LUTE] Re: Frets

[Daniel F Heiman]

Andrew:

This whole thread has been fascinating to me.  Sorry I have not had the
time to participate earlier.

Since I created the spreadsheet, one might logically ask which fret
placement system I use.  The answer is, none of the above.  I have set my
frets empirically, according to what sounds good to me.  I just measured
my 55 cm 7-course, the instrument I play most frequently, and got the
following numbers (nearest half mm), with indications in parentheses as
to which historical temperament most closely matches that value:
1st, 2.85 cm (Kepler tastino)
2nd, 5.75 (Aron meantone)
3rd, 8.7 (Equal temperament!)
4th, 10.95 (Aron meantone/both Mersenne)
5th, 13.7 (both Mersenne/Werckmeister)
6th, 15.85 (Silbermann 1/6th comma)
7th, 18.1 (Aron meantone) 
8th 20.05 (Silbermann 1/6th comma)

Keep in mind that the fret placement interacts strongly with how you set
the piteh intervals between the strings in determining the frequency
generated by any given string/fret combination, so that you cannot just
tune each string off an equal-tempered electronic box and expect any
historical temperament to sound good.  For example, I take a reference
pitch for the 6th course and tune the 4th course/2nd fret to an exact
octave above that, so the 2nd fret placement determines the 6th/4th
course interval.  I then tune the 2nd course 3rd fret from the open 4th
course (maybe not quite so exactly), so the 6th/2nd course interval is
determined by the placement of both the 2nd and 3rd frets.

I am kind of out of time, but I will try to continue this evening.

Daniel

On Wed, 21 May 2008 10:08:58 +0100 Andrew Gibbs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Thanks Sean - that is helpful.
 
 I've yet to experiment with tastini. Apart from ET, the only other  
 
 fret positioning system I use is Gerle's (as given in the handy 
 Excel  
 sheet on the American Lute Society web site). I have to say I'm not  
 
 sure exactly what this is - some kind of mean-tone other than 
 quarter- 
 comma? or an irregular system like the much later Mersenne and  
 Werckmeister 'well temperaments'?
 
 Andrew
 
 
 On 13 May 2008, at 17:46, Sean Smith wrote:
 
 
  Dear Andrew,
 
  Yes, theoretically. But meantone's saving grace on the ren lute is 
  
  that the keys of G, C, and their minors use much of the same  
  keyboard so you don't really have to change any fret positions  
  (mostly white keys on the piano w/ a few Bb's and Cb's). So you're 
  
  essentially safe in 85% of the music --w/ a few exceptions of 
 course.
 
  But. When you move to a key in A or Amin, E and  Emin, Fmin and  
  Bbmin, then things start to get wonky (ie, a lot of flats or 
 sharps).
 
  Think about that 1st course, 1st fret. If you're playing an Ab on  
 
  it you're ok for most of the rep. If you need to play a G# that  
  means the fret has to be in the other position (closer to the nut: 
  
  the tastini position). Same goes for 2nd course, 1st fret: if  
  you're playing an Eb, that's fine usually but if it needs to be a  
 
  D# you have to put the fret in the tastini position again.
 
  I know this is a generalized way of looking at only one small  
  aspect of meanton on the lute. And I don't mean this at all to be  
 
  applicable to the baroque lute whatsoever. I hope this helps in  
  some small way.
 
  Sean
 
 
  On May 13, 2008, at 8:13 AM, Andrew Gibbs wrote:
 
  The whole idea of moveable frets allowed relatively easy shifts  
 
  between temperaments? e.g. mid-concert between a suite of pieces  
 
  in one key and the next  suite in another?
 
  Andrew
 
 
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[LUTE] Flat-back lute

[Daniel F Heiman]

from Amazon.com:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0010W6JAW/sr=8-5/qid=1210334643/ref=olp
_product_details?ie=UTF8me=qid=1210334643sr=8-5

Product Description
This 15 string, eight course, Flat Back lute has a rosewood body, and
ebony tuning pegs. The movable nylon frets are tied on. The solid spruce
soundboard is decorated with an attractive center rosette. It comes with
a traveling black nylon case and the Learning to Play the Lute book by
DeGroodt.The Flat Back LUTE has frets and measures 23 1/2 inches from the
nut to the bridge. The peg box measures 9 1/2 inches. It is 10 inches at
it widest point and measures 2.5 inches deep. This size lute is not so
difficult to play, especially if you already know a few things on a
guitar. 

Has anyone seen one of these in person?  Are they made in Pakistan like
the EMS lutes?  Any impressions on the action or quality of sound?

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[LUTE] Re: museums online with instrument pics/descriptions

[Daniel F Heiman]

Stuart:

For North America, see the Links page on the LSA website.
http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org

Daniel Heiman
- Original Message - 
From: Stuart Walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, 26 April, 2008 4:47 AM
Subject: [LUTE] museums online with instrument pics/descriptions


 I've lost all my references to museums that have images and
descriptions
 of instruments (lutes/citterns and guitars etc)

 I've remembered:


http://mediatheque.cite-musique.fr/masc/?URL=http://mediatheque.cite-musi
que.fr/clientbooklineCIMU/toolkit/p_requests/default-catalogue.htm

 and

 http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/

 and they are both superb. I'm sure there are more. Has anyone got  a
 useful list?


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[LUTE] Extravaganza (OT)

[Daniel F Heiman]

The center part of the US tends to be an early music desert compared to
either of the coasts, but lately the Chicago area has begun to perk up a
bit, with a few more local musicians putting on relatively high-quality
performances.  In addition, there are sometimes outreach events designed
to engage young people and the general public.  I participated in
something last Sunday that, while not superb musically, was still just a
lot of fun to do.  Pictures here:
http://earlymusichicago.org/photoalbum_MICEarlyMusicExtravaganzaApril2008
.htm
Some of you who attend LSA Seminars will recognize a singer.at the center
of the group in the second picture from the right in the top row.

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[LUTE] Forqueray

[Daniel F Heiman]

Antoine Forqueray La Couperin on viol + archlute.

http://www.youtube.com/v/Av20FgeJIokhl

Passionate playing.  Looks like it may be copyrighted material, so catch
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[LUTE] If in New York 26 March

[Daniel F Heiman]

If you are in New York, Wednesday 26 March, you might possibly be
interested in a lecture/demonstration at the Metropolitan Museum of Art,
on their collection of musical instruments.  Their holdings include a
number of historical lutes and other plucked strings, though the
highlight of the demonstration will be their Amati violin.  More
information at:
http://www.metmuseum.org/TICKETS/calendar/view.asp?id=2231

Regards,
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[LUTE] Re: How About A Lute-Care Handbook?

[Daniel F Heiman]

David:

Maybe this guy's guitar-playing friends are all as uninformed about lutes
as he is, and the only lute any of them has ever purchased is one of the
Pakistani approximations available in quantity on E-Bay.  Apparently
those are indeed unplayable as received (I have never seen one) and might
well burst and crack under the slightest sort of stress or temperature or
humidity change.

Daniel

On Sat, 9 Feb 2008 19:52:21 -0500 David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 I was given a comprehensive lecture the other day on the complete  
 worthlessness of all lutes.  This was in conversation with a guitar  
 
 repair specialist I happened to be talking to, because he recently  
 
 did a fret job on my Martin D18.  He did a great job BTW, but 
 somehow  
 we got on the subject of lutes.  Lutes, he said, are overpriced,  
 poorly made, they have a shelf-life of between 5 and 10 years;  they 
  
 burst, they crack, they're completely unplayable even when they're  
 
 new.  Why else do you think so few lutes have survived? he asked:   
 
 they all break down!   I get all the lutes in my workshop!  They all 
  
 end up in my workshop for repair!
 
 What surprised me about this conversation was that this particular  
 
 gentleman is extremely highly thought of in guitar circles!  He's  
 considered among the best of the best among guitar repairmen.
 
 He continued dissing lutes in general for some time, and I just sat  
 
 there listening.  Then I told him my own perspective on the subject, 
  
 and mentioned by name Lawrence K. Brown, who I said has made a 
 number  
 of lutes for me, and is in my view a master lute builder who has my  
 
 complete confidence and admiration.  The guitar repairman had never  
 
 heard of him.  He was also very surprised to hear me say that every  
 
 lute maker I know will stand by his own work.
 
 What this conversation implied to me was that a lot of guitarists 
 who  
 buy lutes do not know how to take proper care of them.  Is there 
 such  
 a thing as a handbook of proper lute care?
 
 There are plenty of books for sale out there telling how to take  
 proper care of guitars, and just about anything else.  Any  
 suggestions about what should be included in a handbook of proper  
 lute care for the novice buyer?
 
 David Rastall
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[LUTE] Vuestros ojos

[Daniel F Heiman]

Only 800 views in over 5 months???

This performance is outstanding and deserves to be much better known:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ81bbG-khM

Daniel Heiman



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[LUTE] Re: recording with ZOOM H2

[Daniel F Heiman]

Wolfgang:

The audio quality seems to be about as good as MP3 gets.  Were you using
built-in microphones?

The message says you are singing bass in the Amaryllis vocal consort. 
Who played the lute on the Dowland?

Daniel Heiman

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:14:58 +0100 wolfgang wiehe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 hi all,
 if someone is interested. i got the ZOOM 2H today and did my first
 recording (work in progress :-). it is easy to handle. look at:
 http://www.esnips.com/web/lautenklang/
 greetings
 w.
 
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[LUTE] Re: Good Friday music

[Daniel F Heiman]

Charles:

To amplify my one-word reply of this morning (when I was late for work):

Heinrich Schütz:
Some sections from the Seven Last Words, if you can't take the time to
do the whole work.  The chorus sections are in 5 voices, so you would
have to come up with another tenor.  A so-so edition is here:
http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Die_Sieben_Worte_Jesu_Christi_am_Kreuz
%2C_SWV_478_%28Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz%29

The general sentiment is on target with the motet Es ist allhier ein
Jammertal, but for this you would need to come up with 2 extra singers,
since this is six voices, SSATTB.  Partial edition here:
http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Musikalische_Exequien:_Part_I%2C_No._1
4_-_Es_ist_allhier_ein_Jammertal_%28Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz%29

In the other direction, a piece having only two parts is Erhöre mich,
wenn ich rufe.  The specification is for two sopranos, but pieces like
this generally work quite well with soprano + tenor -- I have done a
number of them that way with my wife.  Your 4 singers might even pull it
off with two on each part.  See the following page:
http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Erh%C3%B6re_mich%2C_wenn_ich_rufe%2C_S
WV_289_%28Heinrich_Sch%C3%BCtz%29

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:20:49 - Charles Browne
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 Dear all,
 I would be grateful for suggestions, and music, for a Good Friday 
 Service.
 We have a quartet of singers (SATB) and I accompany on an archlute. 
 The
 service is meditative and we sing and play from the back of the 
 church.
 Thanks for your help
 Charles
 
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[LUTE] What is it?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Is this thing, identified variously as a lute (which it is in the
organological sense of the word) or an ud (of which it is certainly not a
typical example), a one-off creation, or is it part of some standard
instrument-making tradition in eastern Europe or Asia?

http://www.civilization.ca/tresors/immigration/im0300be.html

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[LUTE] Re: Lute book lullaby for SATB

[Daniel F Heiman]

Rainer:

I know of at least two pieces that have been called Lute-Book Lullaby. 
Both are found in the Willam Ballet Lute Book (Dublin, Trinity College
BM, Add. 17786-91).  One is for 5 voices or viols.  The other has been
arranged for 4 voices by Geoffrey Shaw and published as number 30 in The
Oxford Book of Carols OUP, London, copyright 1928 and 1964.  It is
reproduced as number 34 in Carols for Choirs ed. R Jacques  David
Willcocks, OUP, London, copyright 1961.  I assume the latter is the one
of interest here.

Daniel Heiman

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:29:19 +0100 Spring, aus dem, Rainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 What is  the Lute-book lullaby ? 
 
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Rainer aus dem Spring
 IS department, development
 
 Tel.:+49 211-5296-355
 Fax.:+49 211-5296-405
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 From: Charles Browne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 7:20 PM
 To: Lutelist
 Subject: [LUTE] Lute book lullaby for SATB
 
 does anyone have a Fronimo/Django file of the Lute-book lullaby for
 SATB? I would be very grateful for a copy!
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[LUTE] Re: Mystery Brownsea lutes

[Daniel F Heiman]

Anthony:

The Lautenweltadressbuch 
(
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/associated/index.html#lautenweltadressbu
ch )
shows three historical lutes at Dean Castle Museum in Killarnock and 
eight at Edinburgh University.  The ones at Dean Castle are all made 
of ivory, so it seems they had first pick of the van Raalte collection. 
I found one instrument pictured on each website:
http://www.futuremuseum.co.uk/images/cache/Img285S1000.jpg
http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/euchmi/ucj/ucjtb.html

Regards,

Daniel Heiman


On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:02:41 +0200 Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 The message from Kenneth Sparr (below) about the mystery lady with  
 the Copenhagen Jauch lute, brought to mind two mystery lutes that I  
 
 had read about in a book on the history of Brownsea Island.
 
   I used to live in Poole, UK, near this island, and I seem to 
 recall  
 reading that two lutes from a musical instrument collection there,  
 
 had been sold, a number of years before, for  Pounds 5 each. I had 
 thought,  
 how cheap that was, and wished I had been around then with 5 quid  
 
 in my pocket. Even if,  Pounds 5 at the time (1927?) would have been 
 worth a  
 good deal more than now.*
 
 (*e.g. . Cheddar, cheese cost in average 17 pence per kilogram in  
 1923 and 490 pence in 1998, thus one lute would have cost roughly 70 
  
 Kilos of Cheddar, or about  Pounds 150 to  Pounds 200 in today's 
 money, which still  
 seems very cheap by any standard; although I am very partial to a  
 true unpasteurised muslin-covered Cheddar).
 
   Of course had I been fortunate enough to have bought them, I  
 wouldn't be here talking about them today ...
 
   I remember that there was a photo showing the lutes in a case (or  
 
 on a wall) of what looked like the Brownsea castle library.
 
 However, I made a search this morning, and discovered that there had 
  
 been a very important collection of musical instruments on Brownsea, 
  
 known as the Charles van Raalte collection. I dare say, you all knew 
  
 about that; but although I have often wondered about those lutes, I  
 
 never thought I could find anything out about them, or the Brownsea  
 
 collection, till today.
 
   The first indication given at http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/euchmi/ 
 cimcim/id/idtuk.html,
 
 states that the instruments are mostly now in Edinburgh University  
 
 Collection of Historic Musical Instruments 
 http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/ 
 euchmi/, or at Dean Castle museum. http://www.futuremuseum.co.uk/ 
 Default.aspx?Id=172
 
 
   A number of important instruments were purchased from the van  
 Raalte Collection, Brownsea Island probably in 1927, as well as on  
 
 the Continent. (For the remainder of the van Raalte Collection, see  
 
 Kilmarnock, Scotland, Dean Castle.)
 
 
 http://www.music.ed.ac.uk/euchmi/cimcim/id/idtuk.html
 
 At Cecilia-uk, the collection (I think, the part in Edinburgh) is  
 described as follows: =AB It included plucked strings (e.g lutes,  
 
 theorbo, chittara, mandora, guitar, mandola, cittern, harp, 
 dulcimer,  
 lyra); bowed strings including members of the viol and violin  
 families; wind instruments including ivory recorders and flutes,  
 flageolet, cornett, serpent; keyboards including ottavini, 
 virginals,  
 clavichord, spinet, harpsichord, positiv and portative organs;  
 percussion instruments including 2 Ugandan conical drums.
 
 http://www.cecilia-uk.org/html/search/verb/GetRecord/1173
 
   The Dean Castle museum  
 http://www.futuremuseum.co.uk/Default.aspx? 
 Id=172, describes their part of that collection as follows: For  
 certain types of instruments this is one of the most important  
 collections in the world. This applies to the instruments of the 
 lute  
 family, some of which are very old, particularly fine and well  
 preserved. These date from as early as 1570, several being products  
 
 of famous instrument makers of their time. The tops are made of 
 maple  
 wood; the backs are usually wholly or partly of ivory. Ivory is also 
  
 used in the elaborate decoration found on several instruments. You  
 
 can see some of the instruments at that web address.
 
   How the instruments came into the possession of the Dean Castle  
 museum, is explained, thus :
 
   =AB The musical instruments on display at Dean Castle were 
 collected,  
 at the end of the 19th Century by Charles van Raalte of Brownsea,  
 Dorset. His daughter, Margherita, married the 8th Lord Howard de  
 Walden*, (*restorer of the castle, surporter of orchestras, but  
 collector of fine arms and armour) and although several of her  
 father's instruments were sold after his death, she brought many of  
 
 the most historically important examples to Dean Castle. 
 
 At first sight this seems to contradict the details about the  
 Edinburgh University collection, which was possibly acquired in 1927 
  
 (see above).
 
   The telegraph states =AB in 1908, van Raalte had died but his wife 
  
 Florence kept the island going until 

[LUTE] Re: help

[Daniel F Heiman]

Shiro:

Up front you need to realize that buying a lute is a serious financial
commitment.  They are not generally available over the counter except in
a place like the Early Music Shop in Bradford, England.  There are
several hundred luthiers around the world who can build you one, custom
made to your specifications, but that will take time (six months to four
or five years, depending on the demand for that builder's work) and $1500
to $6000 or more.

A very fundamental choice you must make is what kind of music you want to
play.   Many people use the term medieval music for anything old.  You
need to understand clearly the distinctions and stylistic differences
between Medieval, Renaissance and Baroque music.  The lutes required are
completely different.  (So you may end up buying several instruments.) 
Some nice samples can be found on YouTube:
Medieval:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB4CehJEK8ANR=1
Renaissance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G23_pcCZkZg   (Played by a professional)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3lKc_JMmIg   (Played by a
non-professional)
Baroque solo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIANAfU2cS4   (Played by a professional)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVlFbu-0I3g(Played by a
non-professional)
or Baroque ensemble music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqkjkbSBHAs 

Finally, you need to realize that there is a significant time commitment
involved in learning to play.  All of the people who made these videos
have worked at it regularly for many years to achieve the level of
proficiency you see there (the shortest being around 4 years).

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Thu, 31 May 2007 20:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Shiro Okami
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 im trying to buy a lute for myself because i really enjoy listening 
 to its sounds..ive never touched one before and i was wondering if 
 somebody could help me choose the right one for me. i like listening 
 to lute music from the medevil ages or stuff like a song called 
 skalds and shadows by blind guardian.. help me please.. thank you

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[LUTE] Re: the bandore

[Daniel F Heiman]

Chris:

For some quick background on the instrument, try this:
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~lsa/aboutLute/Bandora.html

Daniel Heiman

On Wed, 30 May 2007 14:48:35 -0400 Cotton, Christopher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Dear Lutenists,
  
 I am a high school English teacher in Shaker Heights, Ohio, and I am 
 doing research on the bandore.  I have learned that it was a courtly 
 Elizabethan instrument, and I know that it went out of fashion some 
 time after.  Possibly it was supplanted by the lute or guitar?  In 
 any case, what I need to know is when it went out of fashion.  Was 
 it still a common instrument in 1700?  In 1650?
  
 Any thoughts you might have about this would be very grateful!
  
 Chris
 
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[LUTE] Re: Nigel North Interview - non-working link?

[Daniel F Heiman]

Hermann:

Look at this page:
http://www.guitaralive.org/playlist.html
From this it appears that all of the programs more than 6 months old have
been pulled off the server (assuming the 2006 dates in the middle of 2007
are errors).  It might be worth sending an e-mail to the address given at
the top of the page ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) and requesting that it
be reposted.

As an aside, I discovered that on this page there is another program of
interest to lutenists, well camouflaged:
The second half of the entry at: 
http://www.guitaralive.org/playlist_06_10_16.html 
listed as David Russel and Richard Savino is in fact an interview with
**Richard Stone,** including performance by Tempesta di Mare, his group
based in Philadelphia, doing his reconstruction of some of Weiss'
ensemble music.

Regards,

Daniel Heiman

On Mon, 7 May 2007 20:10:59 +0200 Hermann Stemberger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Hello,
 Can somebody help me with the interesting Interview with Nigel North 
 about
 J. Downland?
 The Link on the Page:
 http://www.guitaralive.org/playlist_06_3_28.html
 
 Seems not to work. Does anybody have a working link?
 
 Thank you in advance,
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[LUTE] Re: measurements please

[Daniel F Heiman]

Hi, Kevin:

My small Renaissance lute, slightly smaller than your requested mensur at
55 cm, has a 55 cm length also for the central rib.  It is based on the
Hes lute in the Paris Museum of Decorative Arts (original in ivory; mine
is curly maple...).

Regards,

Daniel Heiman


On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Kishimoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Dear collective lute wisdom,
 I'm wondering if some of you with smallish renaissance g-lutes 
 (57-60 cm stringlength) would be willing to take a measurement for 
 me.  Could you please measure the length of the center rib on your 
 lute from the bottom of the soundboard, around the curve of the 
 bowl, to the neck block (using a tape measure)?  Cm or inches would 
 be fine.  I've got some really nice looking maple, but I'm not sure 
 if it would be long enough to build a lute.  And if you know upon 
 which historical model your lute is based, I'd appreciate that info 
 also.  Thanks in advance.
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[LUTE] Sources manuscrites

[Daniel F Heiman]

For those who might be interested, 

Sources manuscrites en tablature/Manuscript sources in tablature, ca.
1500 – ca. 1800 

is back on line at the same URL as previously:

http://www-bnus.u-strasbg.fr/Smt/sommaire.htm


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[LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597

[Daniel F Heiman]

Rainer:

What this means is that you have not contributed any films to the LSA
Microfilm Library since 1990 (and neither has anyone else!).  

What it may imply is that microfilm is obsolescent or even obsolete as a
format for data archiving and transmittal.  Some people are finding that
film reader-printers are just not available.

Should the LSA digitize all the films in the Library?  Nice idea. 
Requires quite a bit of (volunteer?) time by someone.  Then what?  Sell
them on CD or by file download?   May run into objections from the
libraries that own the original publications and could be damaging to
publishing houses like Minkoff that sell facsimiles.

Other suggestions?

Daniel Heiman

On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 08:39:24 +0200 Spring, aus dem, Rainer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 -Original Message-
 From: Arthur Ness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:52 PM
 To: adS; lutelist Net
 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Morleys Canzonets with lute 1597
 
 What is 17 years old?  The list? The microfilm?
 The list.
 
 Rainer
 
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