[LUTE] Phalèse 1552
Does anyone happen to have a readable copy of Phal=E8se Hortus Musarum 1552 ? I am unable to read my bars 6-7 of # 12 (Fantasia Pauli Baroni, f. 12). I know this was reprinted in several different editions, but I don't have access to this or the original. Best wishes, Jason -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Thumb way under
Hello all, Does anyone have the problem of their right hand middle finger crashing into their thumb when playing chords? If I drop my right arm down really far it helps but this is uncomfortable even after a short time. My thumb is a bit longer than most, but maybe I need to arch my hand or turn my wrist somewhat. Any remedies? Warm regards, Jason -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Thumb-in guitar
Hello Chris, I'm about 6 feet 2 inches and I always sit when I play, with my left foot (assuming a right-handed player) raised about 6 inches or more off the floor. The center of the body of the guitar is about in the center of my body. I use a suction cup/ strap tucked under my right leg. This way I can balance the instrument without supporting it with my arms. I let my arms hang down and then act as if I were picking the guitar up. My right arm has freedom, and this is important if you decide to use mostly arm on certain phrases for tonal variety. It is tempting to hunch over, but I have the neck of the guitar marked so that I know where I'm at if I need to glance for a position shift. If I need to work on something and really see my fingers, I sometimes use a mirror. Body position aside, my thumb is rather long - I am able to tuck it between my 3rd and 4th finger and see the whole nail (this is a good exercise, by the way) - and it was only necessary to pivot my wrist slightly. I do not bend my thumb pip joint toward the palm during the stroke, letting it relax to minimize tension. I always follow through with my fingers toward my shoulder. It is fun to experiment with different positions and I highly recommend persisting; you will be happy with the results. Best wishes, Jason - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jason Kortis [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 7:56 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thumb-in guitar Jason, How do you deal with the height of the guitar? (I'm assuming from Leonard's original post that we're talking about a modern nylon string instrument.) I've tried thumb-in with guitar using a footstool but have found that, because of the angle of the instrument, it sits too low for me to use the lute technique to much advantage. I have to lean way over to the right and still hunch down. The other option: bring the guitar way up high; much higher than typical classical (or lute) position. Then, however, my left hand seems to be at a disadvantage. Part of my problem is finding a way to support the guitar for thumb-in... - With the figure-eight shape, supporting it at the waist means that part of the instrument itself is lower than your support's (in other words: your leg's) point of contact. This puts the rest of my body in some contorted positions to compensate. Thumb-in works great for the lute and, perhaps not surprisingly, the shape of that instrument puts the strings exactly where they need to be for the technique (Whew - is that a backwards way of looking at things or what?) How do you make it work? Chris --- Jason Kortis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Leonard, I play guitar both thumb out and in, and it works exceptionally well if you attack at the right angle. If you are using nails, you will have to shape them a little differently, but you have as much power and facility with practice. Good luck. Happy new year, Jason - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [LUTE] Thumb-in guitar Does anyone out there play guitar with thumb-in technique? How does it work out with the higher tension strings? I've got a young person interested in playing stuff on a guitar, not interested in a particular style or technique; all I could responsibly show him is thumb-in, lute style. Thanks, and best regards in the New Year! Leonard Williams To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Yahoo! DSL - Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com
[LUTE] Re: Thumb-in guitar
Hello Leonard, I play guitar both thumb out and in, and it works exceptionally well if you attack at the right angle. If you are using nails, you will have to shape them a little differently, but you have as much power and facility with practice. Good luck. Happy new year, Jason - Original Message - From: Leonard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [LUTE] Thumb-in guitar Does anyone out there play guitar with thumb-in technique? How does it work out with the higher tension strings? I've got a young person interested in playing stuff on a guitar, not interested in a particular style or technique; all I could responsibly show him is thumb-in, lute style. Thanks, and best regards in the New Year! Leonard Williams To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
Lute duet recital
Hello everyone, I just wanted to rave about a program of lute duets performed by Ronnn McFarlane and Kenneth Be that I heard last night. The atmosphere (Trinity Cathedral in Cleveland Ohio), content and musicianship were SUPERB. Now I am even more excited about this summer's lute seminar! I highly recommend for anyone who is in the area to make every attempt to see these two performers. Best, Jason
Fingerpicks
Hello all, I read that Milano experimented w/fingerpicks - has anyone tried this? Jason
Adriaensen
Hello everyone, I've just posted a zip of the solo lute music of Pratum Musicum (Adriansen, 1584) here - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fronimo_editor/ Enjoy, Jason
Gerle
Hello everyone, Does anyone know where I might find some information about Gerle's Das ander Buch Laub 1549? Specifically, who are the composers and does the book contain reprints of earlier works? Best regards, Jason
Re: Gerle
Hello Rainer, I guess I do - while browsing my local music library's German lute music tablature books, I saw this one which is actually 3 in 1. Gerle is listed as the author in the library's catalogue. Below is a paste of the title- Ein Newes sehr kunstliches Lautenbuch Formschneider 1552 / Hans Gerle.Das ander Buch Laub 1549 ; Das dritt Buch Gunther 1544 / Hans Newsidler Best, Jason - Original Message - From: Rainer aus dem Spring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:19 PM Subject: Re: Gerle Jason Kortis wrote: Hello everyone, Does anyone know where I might find some information about Gerle's Das ander Buch Laub 1549? Specifically, who are the composers and does the book contain reprints of earlier works? Best regards, Jason ??? Such a book does not exist. Do you mean Neusidler's book? The Laub doesn't make sense :) Rainer adS
Christmas tunes for lute
Hello all, I posted a few of my Christmas favorites to the Fronimo lute group which I've been playing for years on guitar; I hope everyone enjoys them. If you have any favorite arrangements, feel free to send them my way as I'm always looking for new music to play. Best wishes, Jason
Re: Fromino to PDF conversion
Hello Martin, I use Ghostview/Ghostscript available here http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/ - you must install a set of drivers for a laser printer (whether you have one or not) and then in Fronimo select print to file. Use Ghostview to open that file and convert it to pdf (it has a few quality options). Remember to add the pdf extension when saving the file. Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Martin Shepherd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: Fromino to PDF conversion Dear All, Roman has reminded me that I still don't provide a PDF version of my piece of the month. I have a program called PDF995 which seems to work except it can't cope with Fronimo fonts. Any suggestions? (I'm working on a PC, I'm computer literate (used to be a programmer), but so bored by technicalities I want it to be easy). There must be other people on the net who have the same problem, so replies to the net please. Best wishes, Martin
Christmas music
Hello all, I've arranged a few Christmas tunes for lute (or guitar) and will eventually post the results at the Fronimo group. I was wondering if anyone had any requests, as I plan to do a few more. Regards, Jason
Re: The Right Hand Revisited
I've never played thumb in or thumb under or whatever it may be called, but does it really facilitate the thumb-index alternation of FAST scalar runs? It would great if someone could post a compressed video with audio demonstrating the benfits of this tecnique.With thumb out technique, I can easily play combinations of blazingly fast scalar runs (160-170bpm for eight notes) and block chords. What would be the purpose of learning to play thumb-inside if one achieves a beautiful tone and dynamic range with thumb out technique other than maybe aesthetic or historical reasons? Jason - Original Message - From: Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: FW: The Right Hand Revisited This is the old chestnut which comes out every year! When I joined this list around 7-8 years ago, I was corrected by one of our erstwhile antipodean lutenists thus.. Thumb-in = Early lute technique (fast-runs and fewer courses) Thumb-out = Later lute technique (More bass strings to contend with) Thumb-over = Guitarist's cheat for playing F-major Thumb-under = An illegal move in Rugby Football Best Wishes Ron (UK) Jon Murphy wrote: I was recently emailed a couple of paragraphs from a lute instructional regarding the right hand - it spoke of thumb under and thumb over. Now then, is thumb in/out another way of saying the same thing - or a different thing entirely.
Adriaensen
Hello all, I have the corrected (once again - added barlines and fixed the #) Fronimo file for Passomeso and the accompanying Galliarda if anyone is interested. Jason
Adriaensen
Dear all, If you only have time to practice one piece per day, maybe you should consider this one. Best, Jason -C -t -f {60 Passomesso in Basso/Adriaensen Pratum Musicum 1584} b c 2 d x a b 1abd a xabd 2aadc 3 c x a xaac a 4 d x c x d x c x a x c b 2abd a x c xabd x d xabd a xdabc 3 da xd 2c b xdab d x a xdab x c xdab d xa xdab c xa b b xdab d x a xdab xc 3a a xc xd xc xa x d x b x a b 2abd a x d xa x c x d x da 3 c x d 2 c b xabd a 3c xd xf xd xc xa xc xa x e x c x e xa x c x e b 2aac a x c xaac x d xaac a x d x c x a b b xaac a x c xaac a x d x a a x b x da x a b xabb d x c xabb xc xd c 3b xa 2b a 3d xb b 2ab d 3 d x b 2 d c xa d xb a xa d x d c x b a b x ab d x a x ab x b x d c x b x b a x a b x ab d x d x b x d xd c xb a xa d x d c b b x bd a xa x d c x b x a d x d x ca x a b xaac a x b x a d x d xaacc x d d x da x cc b xacd a xf xea 3c xe 2f a 3d xc xa x d x c x a b 2acd a x c xacd x d xacd a x c x d x a b b xabd a x d xa x c x bdd x dda 3 c x d 2 c b xabd a x c xabd x d xabd a 3f xd 2c a 3a xc b 2dab d 3c xa xc xa x d xa xb xa x d x b x a x d x b x a b 2 ab d x d x a x b x d d xa xc xd b b xf a xh xi xh xi a xh xf xh b xf a xh xi xh xf a xi xh xf b xea xf xh xf xha xf xe x h b xea xh x a xf xea xc xa x d b xabb d xd xd xc xab d x d x b x a b b xab d 3c xd xf xd xc xa xb xa x d x b x a x d x b x a b 2 ab d x d x d x b x ab d x d x b x a b x ab d x d x a x b x db d xa xc xd b xf a xh xi xh xf a xi xh xf b xea xf xh xf xea xf xfa xe b b 1f a 2a xc xacd a x d x c x a b xacd a 3d xc xa x d x c x a 2acd a x c x d x a b xabd a xc xd x a xaacc x d d x da x cc b xabd a x c xabd x d xabd a xc xd x a b x ab d x a x ab x c x ab d xa x ab c xa b b x ab d x c x d xa x ab c x d xa xc b xabd a 3 d x a x b x d xa xc xa xc xd xc xa x d x b x a b 2abd a xf xa xd xc a xa xaaa c x e b 1aac a xaac xaac a x d ac b xaac a 2 c x d xaacc x d x c x a b b xabb d xc xd x a x c xb xa x a b xd x d x b xc xa x b x a xa b x d x b x d xa xc x b x a xa b x d x d x b x c x a x d x b x a b xa xabd xc x a xd x d x a x d b b x c xaac xd x d x a x d x c x c b xacd a 3 d x a x c x d xa xc xa xc xd xc xa x d x c x a b 2acd a x c xacd x d xacd a 3 a x c x d x c x d x a b 2abd a 3 d x a x b x d 2a xa x d 3 b x d 2 a b b xabd a 3 d x a x b x d 2a xa x b 3 a x b 2 d b x ab d 3 a x a x b x d 2 a x d x d 3 b x d 2 a b x ab d 3 a x a x b x d 2 a x d x d 3 b x d 2 a b xabd a 3 d x a x b x d 2a xa x d 3 b x d 2 a b b xabd a 3 d x a x b x d 2a xa x b 3 a x b 2 d b xaac a 3 c x a x c x d 2 a x a x d 3 c x d 2 a b xaac a 3 c x a x c x d 2 a x a x b x da x a b xabb d 3 d x a x b x d xa xc 2db d 3d xc xa x d x b x a b b 2abb d 3 d x a x b x d xa xc 2d d 3c xa x d x b x a x d b 2 ab d 3 a x a x b x d x a x b 2 db d 3 d x b x a x d x b x a b 2 ab d 3 a x a x b x d x a x b 2 db d 3 a x b x d x a x b x d b b 2abd a 3 d x a x b x d xa xb 2abd a 3 d x b x a x d x c x a b 2aac a 3 c x a x c x a x c x d 2aac a 3 d x c x d x c x a x c b 2acd a 3 d x a x c x a x c x d 2acd a 3c xe xf xe xc xe b b 2f a 3d xc xa x d x c x a 2acd a 3 d x c x a x c x d x a b 2abd a 3 d x a x b x d xa xc xa xc xd xc xa x d x b x a b 2abd a 3 d x a 2 d c 3 b x d 2a d 3 d xa 2c a 3a xc b 2dab d x a xdab x c xdab d xa xdab c xa b b xdab d x a xdab xc 3a a xc xd xc xa x d x b x a b 2abd a 3 d x a x b x d xa xc 2d c 3b xd 2b a 3a xb b 2a d 3 d xa 2 d c 3 b x d 2 b a 3 a x b x a a x d x c x a b b 2aac a 3 d xa xb xa x d x b x a x b x d x b x a x d x c x a b 2aac a 3 c x a x c x a x c x d x a x b x d x a x b x a x b x d b 2abb d 3 d x a x b x d xa xc xd c xa xb xd xb a x d xa xb b b xa d x b x d xa x d c x a x b x d x b a x d x a x b x a a x d x c x a b 2 ab d 3 a x a x b x d x a x b x d c x a x b x d x b d x d x a x b b x ab d x a x b x d x a d x d x a x b x d c x a x b x d xad x d x b x a b b x b a x d x a x b x d c x a x b x d xa d x b x d xa xb a x d xa xb b xa c x b x d xa x d d x b x a x d x a a x d x c x a x cc x d x a x c b 2acd a 3 d x a x c x a x c x d xa x c x d xa xc xa xc xe b b 2f a 3d xc xa x d x c x a 2acd a 3 d x c x a x c x d x a b 2abd a xf xe 3c xe 2f xd x a x c b xa xf xe 3c xe 2f xc xd x a b x d x d x c 3 a x c 2 d xd xc xa b x d x d x c 3 a x c 2 d xa xc x d b b xa xf xe 3c xe 2f xd x a x c b xa xf xe 3c xe 2f xc xd x a b x a xh xf 3e xf 2h x e xa xc b x a xh xf
Adriaensen
Hello again, There are a couple of wrong notes in bar #266. If anyone is interested in the corrected file, let me know. Jason
LeRoy
Hello all, Does anyone have a digital format for the Pimontoyse (LeRoy 1552, I believe) for guitar? I haven't been able to track it down. Thanks in advance, Jason
Melchior Newsidler
Hello everyone, I just posted a zip file of M. Newsidler's Libro Primo (Italian tab. = originally) to the Yahoo Fronimo group. I was wondering if anyone has = ever recorded any of his music?=20 Jason --