[LUTE] More Melchior Newsidler (was Re: de Rippe portrait // Lutist portraits)

2019-11-10 Thread Wayne 
I posted 
Arthur’s picture athttps://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-old/MN_OsloJ3.jpg; 
class="">https://home.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-old/MN_OsloJ3.jpg WayneBegin forwarded message:From: Arthur Ness mailto:arthurjn...@cs.dartmouth.edu; 
class="">arthurjn...@cs.dartmouth.eduSubject: 
[LUTE] More Melchior Newsidler 
(was Re: de Rippe portrait // Lutist portraits)Date: November 
9, 2019 at 6:26:03 PM ESTTo: mailto:da...@vanedwards.co.uk; 
class="">da...@vanedwards.co.uk, mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de; 
class="">tristanvonneum...@gmx.deCc: 
mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; 
class="">lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net; 
class="">arthurjn...@verizon.netReply-To: Arthur 
 >Ness mailto:arthurjn...@verizon.net; 
 >class="">arthurjn...@verizon.netclass="">class="">--=_Part_1857672_968383007.1573341963355class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"class="">Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableclass="">Here is a portrait thought to represent Melchior 
 >Newsidler. The Fuggers were MN patrons and are said to have 
 >commissioned his portrait from a visiting Italian painter. The art 
 >historians have suggested an artist, but they thought MN to be Hans' brother 
 >(b. c!
 a. 1505). Hans was his father and Melchior was born in 1531, and !
 the dates don't match with the presumed artist.. (More on the engraving 
below.)The cited engraving comes from the MN lute book publ. by 
Jobin in 1574 when MN was in Strasbourg. It is by Tobias Stimmer, one of 
the leading artists of his day and a Jobin in-law--thus undoubtedly painted 
"from Life" He was especially noted for capturing his setters' emotional 
state. In this case, MN comes out as a very stern individual under Stimmer's 
tools.https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3; 
class="">https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3-Original Message-From: 
David Van Edwards mailto:da...@vanedwards.co.uk; 
class="">da...@vanedwards.co.ukTo: Tristan von Neumann 
mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de; 
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 s="">lute@cs.dartmouth.edu mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; 
class="">lute@cs.dartmouth.eduSent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 7:47 
amSubject: [LUTE] Re: de Rippe portrait // Lutist portraitsTo answer the second part of your question:Possibly: Melchior 
Newsidler 1574 https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3; 
class="">https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3Sebastian Ochsenkhun 1588https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-183; 
class="">https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-183Sixtus Kargel (1540-1600) https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-530
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[LUTE] More Melchior Newsidler (was Re: de Rippe portrait // Lutist portraits)

2019-11-09 Thread Arthur Ness 
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Here is a portrait thought to represent Melchior Newsidler.  The Fuggers were 
MN patrons and are said to have commissioned his portrait from a visiting 
Italian painter.  The art historians have suggested an artist, but they 
thought MN to be Hans' brother (b. ca. 1505).  Hans was his father and 
Melchior was born in 1531, and the dates don't match with the presumed artist.. 
(More on the engraving below.)
The cited engraving comes from the MN lute book publ. by Jobin in 1574 when MN 
was in Strasbourg.  It is by Tobias Stimmer, one of the leading artists of his 
day and a Jobin in-law--thus undoubtedly painted "from Life"  He was 
especially noted for capturing his setters' emotional state. In this case, MN 
comes out as a very stern individual under Stimmer's tools.
https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3 


-Original Message-
From: David Van Edwards 
To: Tristan von Neumann 
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 7:47 am
Subject: [LUTE] Re: de Rippe portrait // Lutist portraits

To answer the second part of your question:

Possibly:

  Melchior Newsidler 1574
  https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3

Sebastian Ochsenkhun 1588
https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-183

Sixtus Kargel (1540-1600) 
https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-530

Etc. Etc. Just search the Lute Society lute image database.

Best wishes,

David



At 10:22 +0100 31/10/19, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
>Dear Lutists,
>
>
>I just noticed that there is a portrait in "Le Cinquième Livre" of the
>1562 Le Roy print of Albert de Rippe's works.
>
>Is this considered an authentic portrait of de Rippe or just generic?
>
>
>Are there any confirmed authentic portraits of 16th c. lutenists?
>
>Links to pics are welcome.
>
>
>
>:)
>T*
>
>
>
>
>
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Here is a 
portrait thought to represent Melchior Newsidler. The Fuggers were MN 
patrons and are said to have commissioned his portrait from a visiting Italian 
painter. The art historians have suggested an artist, but they thought MN 
to be Hans' brother (b. ca. 1505). Hans was his father and Melchior was 
born in 1531, and the dates don't match with the presumed artist.. (More on the 
engraving below.)


















The cited engraving comes from the MN lute book publ. by Jobin in 1574 
when MN was in Strasbourg. It is by Tobias Stimmer, one of the leading 
artists of his day and a Jobin in-law--thus undoubtedly painted "from Life" 
He was especially noted for capturing his setters' emotional state. In this 
case, MN comes out as a very stern individual under Stimmer's tools.





https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3;











-Original Message-

From: David Van Edwards da...@vanedwards.co.uk

To: Tristan von Neumann tristanvonneum...@gmx.de

Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2019 7:47 am

Subject: [LUTE] Re: de Rippe portrait // Lutist portraits





To answer the second part of your question:











Possibly:











 Melchior Newsidler 1574





 https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3; target="_blank" 
rel="nofollow">https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-3











Sebastian Ochsenkhun 1588





https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-183; 
target="_blank" 
rel="nofollow">https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-183











Sixtus Kargel (1540-1600) 





https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-530; 
target="_blank" 
rel="nofollow">https://lute-images.myjetbrains.com/youtrack/issue/LI-530











Etc. Etc. Just search the Lute Society lute image database.











Best wishes,











David























At 10:22 +0100 31/10/19, Tristan von Neumann wrote:





Dear Lutists,

















I just noticed that there is a portrait in "Le Cinquième 
Livre" of the





1562 Le Roy print of Albert de Rippe's works.











Is this considered an authentic portrait of de Rippe or just 
generic?

















Are there any confirmed authentic portraits of 16th c. 
lutenists?











Links to pics are welcome.























:)





T*



































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