[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets

2018-03-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson 
   Dear Wayne,
   I ought to have thought. Many thanks.
   regards,
   Martyn
 __

   From: wayne lute <wst...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   To: lute net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Cc: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
   Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018, 11:34
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets
   Hi Martyn -
 That is a bogus address.  Because anti-spam measures are really
   fierce these days
   I have to send out many messages with a fake "From: " address.  The
   real address is
   in the "Reply=To:" filed which you may not see in your mail reader
   without asking
   for all the headers.  Anthony's real address is [1]agno3ph...@yahoo.com
   <mailto:[2]agno3ph...@yahoo.com>
 Wayne
   > Begin forwarded message:
   >
   > From: Martyn Hodgson <[3]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets
   > Date: March 12, 2018 at 7:17:36 AM EDT
   > To: Anthony Hind <[4]agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu>, John Lenti
   <[5]johnle...@hotmail.com>
   > Cc: Lutelist Net <[6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   > Reply-To: Martyn Hodgson <[7]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
   >
   >  Dear Anthony,
   >  Your email address [8]agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu bounces back (it
   didn't
   >  use to)! Have you another for a personal communication?
   >  Martyn
   >__
   >
   >  From: Anthony Hind <[9]agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   >  To: John Lenti <[10]johnle...@hotmail.com>
   >  Cc: Lutelist Net <[11]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   >  Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018, 10:15
   >  Subject: [LUTE] Re : Re: Loose frets
   >A very good tip, John, as is the idea of pre-wetting the fret
   >  material.
   >I wish I had thought of that these last few years, suffering from
   >severely slipping frets in similar changing conditions. However,
   as I
   >had resorted to a nylgut chanterelle, which quickly frays gut
   frets,
   >  I
   >decided to try Mimmo's new synthetic fret material. This has only
   >  been
   >on my lute for a few weeks, so I can't report on durability;
   however,
   >  I
   >can say that, as expected, this material is not effected by
   humidity,
   >but also less expectedly, it seems slightly softer than modern gut
   >(therefore, presumably not from Nylgut, as has been suggested).
   This
   >would have the advantage of not damaging gut strings, as
   reportedly
   >nylgut frets would do; but the possible disadvantage of making
   >  stopped
   >strings sound very slightly softer (but less so, I would judge,
   than
   >the much softer sounding double gut frets, with which I do have
   >experience, and appreciated for their greater durability). In
   spite
   >  of
   >their slippery surface, with the knot advised for them by Mimmo,
   they
   >do seem to slip far less than gut frets.
   >Regards
   >Anthony
   >[1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
   >Le lundi, mars 12, 2018, 8:13 AM, John Lenti
   >  <[1][12]johnle...@hotmail.com> a
   >Ã ©crit :
   >  I'm a little reluctant to share something that might seem almost
   >  immoral, but what the hell, I make my living playing the lute
   and I
   >tie
   >  a lot of frets, so I'll chip in here: when I go, as I do almost
   >weekly,
   >  from my home in Seattle, where the weather is always perfect for
   >  gut-strung-and-fretted instruments, to a place like the
   mountains
   >  of
   >  Montana or the desert of Tucson and the humidity is 1% and my
   frets
   >  (usually it's 1, 5, and 6 on my main touring instrument) start
   >slipping
   >  and sliding around, and I don't feel like re-fretting, I tape
   them
   >down
   >  with masking tape.
   >  Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
   >
   >  __
   >  From: [2][2][13]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   >  <[3][3][14]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
   >behalf
   >  of howard posner <[4][4][15]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
   >  Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 9:01:32 AM
   >  To: [5][5][16]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   >  Subject: [LUTE] Re: Loose frets
   >> On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:12 AM, John Mardinly
   ><[6][6][17]john.mardi...@asu.edu>
   >  wrote:
   >>
   >> My frets never come loose and they have not worn out yet. They
   >  are
   >> metal.
   >  I want to know how you tied them on in the first place.  You
   must
   >have
   >  really strong fingers.

[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets

2018-03-12 Thread wayne lute 
Hi Martyn -

  That is a bogus address.  Because anti-spam measures are really fierce these 
days
I have to send out many messages with a fake “From: “ address.  The real 
address is
in the “Reply=To:” filed which you may not see in your mail reader without 
asking
for all the headers.  Anthony’s real address is agno3ph...@yahoo.com 
<mailto:agno3ph...@yahoo.com>

  Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets
> Date: March 12, 2018 at 7:17:36 AM EDT
> To: Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu>, John Lenti 
> <johnle...@hotmail.com>
> Cc: Lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Reply-To: Martyn Hodgson <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
> 
>   Dear Anthony,
>   Your email address agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu bounces back (it didn't
>   use to)! Have you another for a personal communication?
>   Martyn
> __
> 
>   From: Anthony Hind <agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>   To: John Lenti <johnle...@hotmail.com>
>   Cc: Lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
>   Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018, 10:15
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re : Re: Loose frets
> A very good tip, John, as is the idea of pre-wetting the fret
>   material.
> I wish I had thought of that these last few years, suffering from
> severely slipping frets in similar changing conditions. However, as I
> had resorted to a nylgut chanterelle, which quickly frays gut frets,
>   I
> decided to try Mimmo's new synthetic fret material. This has only
>   been
> on my lute for a few weeks, so I can't report on durability; however,
>   I
> can say that, as expected, this material is not effected by humidity,
> but also less expectedly, it seems slightly softer than modern gut
> (therefore, presumably not from Nylgut, as has been suggested). This
> would have the advantage of not damaging gut strings, as reportedly
> nylgut frets would do; but the possible disadvantage of making
>   stopped
> strings sound very slightly softer (but less so, I would judge, than
> the much softer sounding double gut frets, with which I do have
> experience, and appreciated for their greater durability). In spite
>   of
> their slippery surface, with the knot advised for them by Mimmo, they
> do seem to slip far less than gut frets.
> Regards
> Anthony
> [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> Le lundi, mars 12, 2018, 8:13 AM, John Lenti
>   <[1]johnle...@hotmail.com> a
> Ã ©crit :
>   I'm a little reluctant to share something that might seem almost
>   immoral, but what the hell, I make my living playing the lute and I
> tie
>   a lot of frets, so I'll chip in here: when I go, as I do almost
> weekly,
>   from my home in Seattle, where the weather is always perfect for
>   gut-strung-and-fretted instruments, to a place like the mountains
>   of
>   Montana or the desert of Tucson and the humidity is 1% and my frets
>   (usually it's 1, 5, and 6 on my main touring instrument) start
> slipping
>   and sliding around, and I don't feel like re-fretting, I tape them
> down
>   with masking tape.
>   Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
> 
>   __
>   From: [2][2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   <[3][3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
> behalf
>   of howard posner <[4][4]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
>   Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 9:01:32 AM
>   To: [5][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
>   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Loose frets
>> On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:12 AM, John Mardinly
> <[6][6]john.mardi...@asu.edu>
>   wrote:
>> 
>> My frets never come loose and they have not worn out yet. They
>   are
>> metal.
>   I want to know how you tied them on in the first place.  You must
> have
>   really strong fingers.
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[LUTE] Re: Re : Re: Loose frets

2018-03-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson 
   Dear Anthony,
   Your email address agno3ph...@cs.dartmouth.edu bounces back (it didn't
   use to)! Have you another for a personal communication?
   Martyn
 __

   From: Anthony Hind 
   To: John Lenti 
   Cc: Lutelist Net 
   Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018, 10:15
   Subject: [LUTE] Re : Re: Loose frets
 A very good tip, John, as is the idea of pre-wetting the fret
   material.
 I wish I had thought of that these last few years, suffering from
 severely slipping frets in similar changing conditions. However, as I
 had resorted to a nylgut chanterelle, which quickly frays gut frets,
   I
 decided to try Mimmo's new synthetic fret material. This has only
   been
 on my lute for a few weeks, so I can't report on durability; however,
   I
 can say that, as expected, this material is not effected by humidity,
 but also less expectedly, it seems slightly softer than modern gut
 (therefore, presumably not from Nylgut, as has been suggested). This
 would have the advantage of not damaging gut strings, as reportedly
 nylgut frets would do; but the possible disadvantage of making
   stopped
 strings sound very slightly softer (but less so, I would judge, than
 the much softer sounding double gut frets, with which I do have
 experience, and appreciated for their greater durability). In spite
   of
 their slippery surface, with the knot advised for them by Mimmo, they
 do seem to slip far less than gut frets.
 Regards
 Anthony
 [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
 Le lundi, mars 12, 2018, 8:13 AM, John Lenti
   <[1]johnle...@hotmail.com> a
 Ã ©crit :
   I'm a little reluctant to share something that might seem almost
   immoral, but what the hell, I make my living playing the lute and I
 tie
   a lot of frets, so I'll chip in here: when I go, as I do almost
 weekly,
   from my home in Seattle, where the weather is always perfect for
   gut-strung-and-fretted instruments, to a place like the mountains
   of
   Montana or the desert of Tucson and the humidity is 1% and my frets
   (usually it's 1, 5, and 6 on my main touring instrument) start
 slipping
   and sliding around, and I don't feel like re-fretting, I tape them
 down
   with masking tape.
   Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10

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   <[3][3]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on
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   of howard posner <[4][4]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
   Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 9:01:32 AM
   To: [5][5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Loose frets
   > On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:12 AM, John Mardinly
 <[6][6]john.mardi...@asu.edu>
   wrote:
   >
   >  My frets never come loose and they have not worn out yet. They
   are
   >  metal.
   I want to know how you tied them on in the first place.  You must
 have
   really strong fingers.
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