[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ Thank you. In the middle of the third line, on the first course, there are two adjacent tablature letters of unfamiliar shape. The first resembles a 'p' with a long straight tail. And the second resembles a 'p' with a hooked tail. Can someone identify these two letters for me? Are they 'f' and 'h'? Are these shapes standard for that time and place? Or are they an idiosyncrasy of the writer? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
They are e and f. To me they don't seem very unfamiliar, at least I'd say that similar shapes can be found elsewhere. But I'm not a specialist in English mss for renaissance lute.. B Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 um 09:38 Uhr Von: Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude. That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. [1]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_s turt_lute_book/ Thank you. In the middle of the third line, on the first course, there are two adjacent tablature letters of unfamiliar shape. The first resembles a 'p' with a long straight tail. And the second resembles a 'p' with a hooked tail. Can someone identify these two letters for me? Are they 'f' and 'h'? Are these shapes standard for that time and place? Or are they an idiosyncrasy of the writer? To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
I would say they are f and h representing respectively a c and d if the top string has been tuned to g'. Happy luting! Lex Op 28 okt 2014, om 10:09 heeft b...@symbol4.de het volgende geschreven: They are e and f. To me they don't seem very unfamiliar, at least I'd say that similar shapes can be found elsewhere. But I'm not a specialist in English mss for renaissance lute.. B Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 um 09:38 Uhr Von: Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude. That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. [1]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_s turt_lute_book/ Thank you. In the middle of the third line, on the first course, there are two adjacent tablature letters of unfamiliar shape. The first resembles a 'p' with a long straight tail. And the second resembles a 'p' with a hooked tail. Can someone identify these two letters for me? Are they 'f' and 'h'? Are these shapes standard for that time and place? Or are they an idiosyncrasy of the writer? To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
You are right, of course, Lex. I looked at a different place.. :-( Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 um 11:25 Uhr Von: Lex van Sante lvansa...@gmail.com An: lute mailing list list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude. I would say they are f and h representing respectively a c and d if the top string has been tuned to g'. Happy luting! Lex Op 28 okt 2014, om 10:09 heeft b...@symbol4.de het volgende geschreven: They are e and f. To me they don't seem very unfamiliar, at least I'd say that similar shapes can be found elsewhere. But I'm not a specialist in English mss for renaissance lute.. B Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Oktober 2014 um 09:38 Uhr Von: Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude. That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. [1][1]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_joh n_s turt_lute_book/ Thank you. In the middle of the third line, on the first course, there are two adjacent tablature letters of unfamiliar shape. The first resembles a 'p' with a long straight tail. And the second resembles a 'p' with a hooked tail. Can someone identify these two letters for me? Are they 'f' and 'h'? Are these shapes standard for that time and place? Or are they an idiosyncrasy of the writer? To get on or off this list see list information at [2][2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. [3]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_s turt_lute_book/ 2. [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_s 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 3. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
In the middle of the third line, on the first course, there are two adjacent tablature letters of unfamiliar shape. The first resembles a 'p' with a long straight tail. And the second resembles a 'p' with a hooked tail. Can someone identify these two letters for me? Are they 'f' and 'h'? Pat O'Brien used to say h's have hooks To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
The first letter is an F and the second an H. There are a couple of scribes who wrote this ms and all the Fs are like that with long tails. The Hs are slightly different between the 2 writers - compare the H in the Courante above your Prelude - line 5 of the piece, 2nd measure. I think the Fs are pretty standard and the Hs a bit less so. Nancy That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ Thank you. In the middle of the third line, on the first course, there are two adjacent tablature letters of unfamiliar shape. The first resembles a 'p' with a long straight tail. And the second resembles a 'p' with a hooked tail. Can someone identify these two letters for me? Are they 'f' and 'h'? Are these shapes standard for that time and place? Or are they an idiosyncrasy of the writer? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ Nancy I'm looking for tablature (or regular staff notation) to John Sturt's prelude. I understand there is only one prelude extant from this composer. I can't find the tablature/staff online. I would appreciate suggestions or other help. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA 925 / 686-5800 www.groundsanddivisions.info www.nancycarlinassociates.com
[LUTE] Re: Tab for John Sturt's prelude.
Hebert, I put it into Fronimo, and also added it in staff notation, and will send it to you. ed On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Nancy Carlin [1]na...@nancycarlinassociates.com wrote: That is on f.22r of the ML Lute Book. Here is a link to that manuscript on Sarge Gerbode's web site. [2]http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_s turt_lute_book/ Nancy I'm looking for tablature (or regular staff notation) to John Sturt's prelude. I understand there is only one prelude extant from this composer. I can't find the tablature/staff online.A I would appreciate suggestions or other help. To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Nancy Carlin Administrator THE LUTE SOCIETY OF AMERICA [4]http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org PO Box 6499 Concord, CA 94524 USA [5]925 / 686-5800 [6]www.groundsanddivisions.info [7]www.nancycarlinassociates.com -- References 1. mailto:na...@nancycarlinassociates.com 2. http://gerbode.net/facsimiles/british_library/BL_MS_Add_38539_john_sturt_lute_book/ 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 4. http://LuteSocietyofAmerica.org/ 5. tel:925%20%2F%20686-5800 6. http://www.groundsanddivisions.info/ 7. http://www.nancycarlinassociates.com/
