[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
In French tablature the diapasons or bordons are written as numbers and / or as extra a letters with slashes separately below the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: --- --- --- --- --- --- a /a //a ///a [etc.] [AND/OR] 4 5 [etc.] so that a = 7th course; /a = 8th course, ///a = 9th course, a = 10th course, etc.and 4 = 10th course [i.e., the number replacing the four slashes], etc. I have seen examples in original manuscripts that use both numbers and /a letters together, I guess depending on the space available under the main six courses. See, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: 7 8 9 X --- --- --- --- --- --- I have samples in PostScript format at my www site, two pieces by Alessandro Piccinini. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P GJC On 12 Nov 2005 at 14:50, dc wrote: Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:50:43 +0100 To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Theorbo tablature Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French tablature the diapasons or bordons are written as numbers and / or as extra a letters with slashes separately below the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: --- --- --- --- --- --- a /a //a ///a [etc.] [AND/OR] 4 5 [etc.] so that a = 7th course; /a = 8th course, ///a = 9th course, a = 10th course, etc.and 4 = 10th course [i.e., the number replacing the four slashes], etc. I have seen examples in original manuscripts that use both numbers and /a letters together, I guess depending on the space available under the main six courses. See, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: 7 8 9 X --- --- --- --- --- --- I have samples in PostScript format at my www site, two pieces by Alessandro Piccinini. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P GJC On 12 Nov 2005 at 14:50, dc wrote: Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:50:43 +0100 To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Theorbo tablature Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
Rob, If you're looking for PDF you can use the free net distillery to convert .ps to .pdf [1]http://www.babinszki.com/distiller Just make sure to rename the file to have a .ps (not .eps) extension before you upload it. P.S. thanks very much for the nice recordings. Best, David Rob MacKillop wrote: Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [[2]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French tablature the diapasons or bordons are written as numbers and / or as extra a letters with slashes separately below the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: --- --- --- --- --- --- a /a //a ///a [etc.] [AND/OR] 4 5 [etc.] so that a = 7th course; /a = 8th course, ///a = 9th course, a = 10th course, etc.and 4 = 10th course [i.e., the number replacing the four slashes], etc. I have seen examples in original manuscripts that use both numbers and /a letters together, I guess depending on the space available under the main six courses. See, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: [4]http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: 7 8 9 X --- --- --- --- --- --- I have samples in PostScript format at my www site, two pieces by Alessandro Piccinini. See: [5]http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P GJC On 12 Nov 2005 at 14:50, dc wrote: Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:50:43 +0100 To: Lutelist [6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dc [7][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Theorbo tablature Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.babinszki.com/distiller 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A 5. http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
Or get a copy of Ghostscript (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/), and you can just print them yourself. It's free for non-commercial use and works quite well in my experience. Guy - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillopmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Lute net'mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Thanks David! Rob -Original Message- From: David Cassetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 17:44 To: Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Rob, If you're looking for PDF you can use the free net distillery to convert .ps to .pdf [1]http://www.babinszki.com/distiller Just make sure to rename the file to have a .ps (not .eps) extension before you upload it. P.S. thanks very much for the nice recordings. Best, David Rob MacKillop wrote: Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [[2]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French tablature the diapasons or bordons are written as numbers and / or as extra a letters with slashes separately below the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: --- --- --- --- --- --- a /a //a ///a [etc.] [AND/OR] 4 5 [etc.] so that a = 7th course; /a = 8th course, ///a = 9th course, a = 10th course, etc.and 4 = 10th course [i.e., the number replacing the four slashes], etc. I have seen examples in original manuscripts that use both numbers and /a letters together, I guess depending on the space available under the main six courses. See, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: [4]http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: 7 8 9 X --- --- --- --- --- --- I have samples in PostScript format at my www site, two pieces by Alessandro Piccinini. See: [5]http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P GJC On 12 Nov 2005 at 14:50, dc wrote: Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:50:43 +0100 To: Lutelist [6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edumailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dc [7][EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Theorbo tablature Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.babinszki.com/distillerhttp://www.babinszki.com/distiller 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edumailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#Ahttp://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A 5. http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#Phttp://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edumailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.htmlhttp://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
Use GS View (with Ghost Script). It is free, installs quickly and easily and works very well. It is multi-platform and will show PostScript files and print to any standard printer. See my links at: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P You must install both Ghost Script (the converting software) and GS View or Ghost View (the front end for viewing). GJC On 13 Nov 2005 at 17:33, Rob MacKillop wrote: Date sent: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:33:51 - To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French tablature the diapasons or bordons are written as numbers and / or as extra a letters with slashes separately below the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: --- --- --- --- --- --- a /a //a ///a [etc.] [AND/OR] 4 5 [etc.] so that a = 7th course; /a = 8th course, ///a = 9th course, a = 10th course, etc.and 4 = 10th course [i.e., the number replacing the four slashes], etc. I have seen examples in original manuscripts that use both numbers and /a letters together, I guess depending on the space available under the main six courses. See, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: 7 8 9 X --- --- --- --- --- --- I have samples in PostScript format at my www site, two pieces by Alessandro Piccinini. See: http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P GJC On 12 Nov 2005 at 14:50, dc wrote: Date sent:Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:50:43 +0100 To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo tablature Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
I have Adobe Acrobat 5 with Distiller, and following David's instructions have managed to convert the files to a printable form. Thanks to all, especially Gordon. Actually, Gordon, there is nothing I require right now, but it is certainly a website I shall utilise at somepoint. Cheers, Rob _ From: guy_and_liz Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 18:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Lute net' Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Or get a copy of Ghostscript (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/), and you can just print them yourself. It's free for non-commercial use and works quite well in my experience. Guy - Original Message - From: Rob mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MacKillop To: 'Lute net' mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Thanks David! Rob -Original Message- From: David Cassetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 17:44 To: Lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature Rob, If you're looking for PDF you can use the free net distillery to convert .ps to .pdf [1]http://www.babinszki.com/distiller Just make sure to rename the file to have a .ps (not .eps) extension before you upload it. P.S. thanks very much for the nice recordings. Best, David Rob MacKillop wrote: Great resource, Gordon, but how many of us have a Postscript printer? Rob -Original Message- From: Gordon J. Callon [[2]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 November 2005 16:51 To: dc; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature In French tablature the diapasons or bordons are written as numbers and / or as extra a letters with slashes separately below the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: --- --- --- --- --- --- a /a //a ///a [etc.] [AND/OR] 4 5 [etc.] so that a = 7th course; /a = 8th course, ///a = 9th course, a = 10th course, etc.and 4 = 10th course [i.e., the number replacing the four slashes], etc. I have seen examples in original manuscripts that use both numbers and /a letters together, I guess depending on the space available under the main six courses. See, for example, Lambeth Palace Library MS 1041. I have a sample in PostScript format at my www site, the anonymous French song, with archlute or theorbo tablature, Hola, hola Charon. See: [4]http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A In Italian tablature these are shown usually with numbers above the ruled lines (of the main six courses), viz: 7 8 9 X --- --- --- --- --- --- I have samples in PostScript format at my www site, two pieces by Alessandro Piccinini. See: [5]http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P GJC On 12 Nov 2005 at 14:50, dc wrote: Date sent: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:50:43 +0100 To: Lutelist [6]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: dc [7][EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[LUTE] Theorbo tablature Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at [8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html References 1. http://www.babinszki.com/distiller 2. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://ace.acadiauca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#A 5. http://ace.acadiauca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P http://ace.acadiau.ca/score/archive/ftp.htm#P 6. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 7. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. theorbo issues are considered integral parts of lute sciences on this list :) I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. courses, that is. In Italian tab, Arabic numerals beneath the system are used: 7, 8, 9, X, V, 12, 13, 14 (7th to 14th courses). X is a Roman numeral, of course, but V is not: it is 11, with the stems connected at the bottom. There is a difference with the 7th course: Some authors use a 7 for the 7th course, some others use a horizontally crossed-out O. In French tab, it's usually: a, /a, //a, ///a, 4, 5, 6, 7 beneath the system. Some English authors use Arabic numerals 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 (8th to 14th courses). -- Best, Mathias -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: Theorbo tablature
Dennis, Check out Lynda Sayce's site: www.theorbo.com. There is a section about notation directed towards composers, but it will tell you more than you ever thought you needed to know. Chris --- dc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any specific sites out there devoted to theorbo tablature? I found quite a few for the different lutes, but none for theorbo. I was wondering in particular how the unfretted strings were notated. Thanks, Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
