[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute: Jelinek's Two-part Invention No 3
Beautiful! Thanks! Arto On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:50:14 +0100, Stuart Walsh s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote: This is just a (maybe daft) little experimental curiosity - some serial music played as lute duo. But it's real music from 'Four Two-part Inventions' by Hanns Jelinek (1949). He says that these pieces are 'to all friends and lovers of composition in the twelve-tone system'. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDT4kheGWIk The piece goes beyond the three octaves of a lute so I had to do some octave transposition. The phrases are very clearly marked and I didn't do any Baroque guitar-style octave hopping: I only moved complete phrases. Also the tempo of quaver=76 is too slow for a G-lute so I played it a bit faster. Overall, I probably murdered the piece! But I think serial music could work on a lute or lutes. Stuart To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute: Jelinek's Two-part Invention No 3 - to Howard
Very beautifully composed and speakingly played! - to Howard: I always read your mails with great pleasure and admire their logic. But this time I can not follow You: The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell.(i.e.octave transpositions, tempo changes etc.) If this is meant as an affront against Schoenberg and his school, You are wrong. You can not exclude, that there are some (for sure not many!) listeners, who can tell. Octave transpositions for example are also in 5- ore 8-tone music not so easy hearable. Especially this piece of Jelinek (and especially in this lute-transscription) impresses by his musical gestures. I don´t miss normal melodies. Yours Andreas (Excuse my german-english!) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute: Jelinek's Two-part Invention No 3
On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: The piece goes beyond the three octaves of a lute so I had to do some octave transposition. The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. The phrases are very clearly marked and I didn't do any Baroque guitar-style octave hopping: I only moved complete phrases. Also the tempo of quaver=76 is too slow for a G-lute so I played it a bit faster. Overall, I probably murdered the piece! The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. But I think serial music could work on a lute or lutes. The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute: Jelinek's Two-part Invention No 3
On 15/10/2010 23:05, howard posner wrote: On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: The piece goes beyond the three octaves of a lute so I had to do some octave transposition. The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. The phrases are very clearly marked and I didn't do any Baroque guitar-style octave hopping: I only moved complete phrases. Also the tempo of quaver=76 is too slow for a G-lute so I played it a bit faster. Overall, I probably murdered the piece! The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. But I think serial music could work on a lute or lutes. The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. Nobody? I think you are miles off. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
