[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Begin forwarded message: From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau Date: April 21, 2014 at 6:11:14 AM EDT To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias So who wrote the other pieces in VM7 6211 ? Has someone published an analysis? Wayne according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Well yes, actually. There is a complete listing of the pieces in the manuscript and the attributionw whenever possible in Sources Manuscrites en Tablature, luth et théorbe, Catalogue descriptif Editions V. Koerner : Baden Baden et Bouxwiller, 1991. Ms 6211 is presented on pages 198 - 141 by Monique Rollin. The authors are the two Gaultiers, Dubut, Dupré, Emond, Lamrare Le Gras, Vincent, Bouvier and anonymous... There are two Tombeaux de Mésangeau. 1 on f° 8v - 9 (called Allemande du vieux gautier, D minor tuning) and the other one ob f° 31v - 32 , flat tuning) Best, Jean-Marie -- Begin forwarded message: From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau Date: April 21, 2014 at 6:11:14 AM EDT To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias So who wrote the other pieces in VM7 6211 ? Has someone published an analysis? Wayne according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Merci, Jean-Marie! We find the dépouillement also here: http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1type=msms=F-Pn6211lang=deushowmss=1 I've never seen a composer named Lamare Le Gras in an other ms. There is one piece ascribed to Mesangeau (some are ascribed in other sources to Mesangeau.) One of the hands writes ton enrhumé as ton arumay which looks somehow English. Crypto fans: what does Courante A.d.m.L.b.p.m.g. mean? On 46v I would read Courante diminution instead of diminutivy. Happy Easter! B On 21.04.2014 13:30, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Well yes, actually. There is a complete listing of the pieces in the manuscript and the attributionw whenever possible in Sources Manuscrites en Tablature, luth et théorbe, Catalogue descriptif Editions V. Koerner : Baden Baden et Bouxwiller, 1991. Ms 6211 is presented on pages 198 - 141 by Monique Rollin. The authors are the two Gaultiers, Dubut, Dupré, Emond, Lamrare Le Gras, Vincent, Bouvier and anonymous... There are two Tombeaux de Mésangeau. 1 on f° 8v - 9 (called Allemande du vieux gautier, D minor tuning) and the other one ob f° 31v - 32 , flat tuning) Best, Jean-Marie -- Begin forwarded message: From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau Date: April 21, 2014 at 6:11:14 AM EDT To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias So who wrote the other pieces in VM7 6211 ? Has someone published an analysis? Wayne according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Begin doorgestuurd bericht: Van: Lex van Sante lvansa...@gmail.com Datum: 21 april 2014 16:24:44 GMT+02:00 Aan: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Onderwerp: Antw.: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau Mathias, I understand what you mean but for instance in Bittner's book there is also a piece with the name Tombeau In France this would be named Tombeau de Bittner. Just like Courante de Gaultier for instance. I was only suggesting a possibility. Mesangeau could be the composer or he could be the dedicatee. Lex Op 21 apr 2014, om 12:11 heeft Mathias Rösel het volgende geschreven: Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Begin doorgestuurd bericht: Van: Lex van Sante lvansa...@gmail.com Datum: 21 april 2014 16:39:59 GMT+02:00 Aan: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de Onderwerp: Antw.: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau The PAN database lists a concordance for Barython as D-Kl 2° Ms. Mus. 61.L1 The number of the piece in this PAN database is 3.106 The lute version is in the french flat tuning as Mace calls it Lex Op 21 apr 2014, om 15:14 heeft Bernd Haegemann het volgende geschreven: Merci, Jean-Marie! We find the dépouillement also here: http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1type=msms=F-Pn6211lang=deushowmss=1 I've never seen a composer named Lamare Le Gras in an other ms. There is one piece ascribed to Mesangeau (some are ascribed in other sources to Mesangeau.) One of the hands writes ton enrhumé as ton arumay which looks somehow English. Crypto fans: what does Courante A.d.m.L.b.p.m.g. mean? On 46v I would read Courante diminution instead of diminutivy. Happy Easter! B On 21.04.2014 13:30, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote: Well yes, actually. There is a complete listing of the pieces in the manuscript and the attributionw whenever possible in Sources Manuscrites en Tablature, luth et théorbe, Catalogue descriptif Editions V. Koerner : Baden Baden et Bouxwiller, 1991. Ms 6211 is presented on pages 198 - 141 by Monique Rollin. The authors are the two Gaultiers, Dubut, Dupré, Emond, Lamrare Le Gras, Vincent, Bouvier and anonymous... There are two Tombeaux de Mésangeau. 1 on f° 8v - 9 (called Allemande du vieux gautier, D minor tuning) and the other one ob f° 31v - 32 , flat tuning) Best, Jean-Marie -- Begin forwarded message: From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau Date: April 21, 2014 at 6:11:14 AM EDT To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias So who wrote the other pieces in VM7 6211 ? Has someone published an analysis? Wayne according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
I understand what you mean but for instance in Bittner's book there is also a piece with the name Tombeau In France this would be named Tombeau de Bittner. Just like Courante de Gaultier for instance. I was only suggesting a possibility. Mesangeau could be the composer or he could be the dedicatee. That tombeau is lacking ANY name http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?id=1type=conclang=deuconc=586 the difference being that the tombeau F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v seqq. does bear a name: Tombeau de Mesangeau which translates as Mesangeau's [musical] tombstone. Which implies, if I'm not mistaken, that Mesangeau was the deceased person. As opposed to that, composers' names are given by the word par, as I've often found. Not a native speaker here, but I'm under the impression that this would be usual way. The tombeau written by Mesangeau would be Tombeau par Mesangeau. The easy way to prove me wrong would be to find a tombeau that is headlined Tombeau de XY where XY is the name of the composer. Mathias Lex Op 21 apr 2014, om 12:11 heeft Mathias Rösel het volgende geschreven: Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
In the catalogue by Brossard from 1724 (also online at Gallica) we find exactly this thoughts. As far as I can understand - my French is very poor - Brossard writes about this tombeaux (page 379, II°), that it could be on the death of Mesangeau or it could be written by him. Brossard, who collected and probably wrote these pieces, says, that he personally beliefs, it is a Tombeau by Mesangeau. Not any proof, but I think this enforces the possibility to understand it either way. Best regards Markus Am 21.04.2014 12:11, schrieb Mathias Rösel: Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Markus Lutz Schulstraße 11 88422 Bad Buchau Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89 Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90 Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
The passage which Markus refers to is at p. 379 in Brossard's Catalogue and apllies t the manuscript which is now known as Vm7 6211 which one of Brossard's books. Here is my quick translation of this passage : There is also a piece entitled Tombeau de Mezangeau, but if this piece was composed after his death, we do not know who the author is. In my opinion, I would be inclined to think that this Tombeau is also on the death of the famous Raquette, mentioned above, because all his disciples composed Tombeaux after his death, and I think, although Mezangeau who, if he had not been not his disciple, had at least been his contemporary, did not want to fail composing one too, to emulate his colleagues. However, this is only conjectural. (Brossard, 1724) Best, Jean-Marie -- In the catalogue by Brossard from 1724 (also online at Gallica) we find exactly this thoughts. As far as I can understand - my French is very poor - Brossard writes about this tombeaux (page 379, II°), that it could be on the death of Mesangeau or it could be written by him. Brossard, who collected and probably wrote these pieces, says, that he personally beliefs, it is a Tombeau by Mesangeau. Not any proof, but I think this enforces the possibility to understand it either way. Best regards Markus Am 21.04.2014 12:11, schrieb Mathias Rösel: Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Would be funny, though. Correct me if I'm wrong, I was thinking that tombeaux in the 17th century were composed for real deceased persons, and not just like that as a stylistic exercise like in the 20th/21st centuries. Unless it be clear for whom this tombeau was penned other than for late Mesangeau, I'd assume it was written at the occasion of Mesangeau's obituary by someone else. Mathias according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Markus Lutz Schulstraße 11 88422 Bad Buchau Tel 0 75 82 / 92 62 89 Fax 0 75 82 / 92 62 90 Mail mar...@gmlutz.de
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Some examples Tombeau de Turenne. Allemande du V.Gallot Tombeau de Lauffenst: (41) (Lauffensteiner) : this is a piece by Lauffensteiner! Tombeau de la Reine de Prusse ( Tombeau des Muses Franc,oises par Mr Gallot Vieux Le Tombeau de Gauttier : (Krakow) a piece by Gaultier! = Tombeau de Mademoiselle Gaultier in La Rhetorique I would guess that in almost all of the cases in the construction tombeau de NN, NN is the late friend. Sometimes (3 - 5 cases) the composer is added by par . There are a similar number of cases where de refers to the composer. One should have as look on the origin of these sources. There seem to be a little over 100 pieces with the title .. Tombeau ... B -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Begin forwarded message: From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de On 17.04.2014 16:10, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. W -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Not only did Mesangeau use this tuning a lot. This piece has many stylistic traits characteristic of him. I suggest he could well have been the composer. Otherwise someone else has deliberately cited from his work. Anyway Tombeau de Mesangeau might mean Tombeau by Mesangeau as well as Tombeau for Mesangeau. If my suggestion is right, this tombeau would predate the one composed by Ennemond Gaultier. Lex Op 20 apr 2014, om 14:29 heeft wbc het volgende geschreven: Begin forwarded message: From: Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de On 17.04.2014 16:10, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. That is the flat tuning, (like Lester) which Mesangeau did use a lot. W -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v F-Pn Ms. Res. 474 Denis Gaultier, Livre de tablature, p. 8 Perrine, Pieces de Luth en Musique, 1680, p. 8 See: [1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst =0title=Tombeau+de+Mezangeaukey=msnam=comp= Arto On 17/04/14 16:46, wayne cripps wrote: Hi Folks - ]Is there only one original version of the Tombeau do Mezangeau, from Livre de Tablature des Pieces de Luth, ca. 1672, or are there some other versions in old tablature books? Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst=0title=Tombeau+de+Mezangeaukey=msnam=comp= 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
On 17.04.2014 16:10, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b52503776m/f66.image That's a different piece, in one of the transistor tunings :-) May be BY Mezangeau. F-Pn Ms. Res. 474 Denis Gaultier, Livre de tablature, p. 8 you can find it here: http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/tombeau_mez.jpg Perrine, Pieces de Luth en Musique, 1680, p. 8 See: The Perrine I only have as a Fronimo file. Best regards Bernd [1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst =0title=Tombeau+de+Mezangeaukey=msnam=comp= Arto On 17/04/14 16:46, wayne cripps wrote: Hi Folks - ]Is there only one original version of the Tombeau do Mezangeau, from Livre de Tablature des Pieces de Luth, ca. 1672, or are there some other versions in old tablature books? Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst=0title=Tombeau+de+Mezangeaukey=msnam=comp= 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: versions of Tombeau do Mezangeau
Hi All, There is also a section of it embedded in a piece by Robert Johnson, as discussed by John Reeve in the Lute Society journal - last year? Not sure of the exact reference, but I'm sure somebody will help us out. M On 17/04/2014 16:10, Arto Wikla wrote: Hi, according to Peter's wonderful database, 3 have been found: F-Pn ms. Vm7 6211, 31v F-Pn Ms. Res. 474 Denis Gaultier, Livre de tablature, p. 8 Perrine, Pieces de Luth en Musique, 1680, p. 8 See: [1]http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst =0title=Tombeau+de+Mezangeaukey=msnam=comp= Arto On 17/04/14 16:46, wayne cripps wrote: Hi Folks - ]Is there only one original version of the Tombeau do Mezangeau, from Livre de Tablature des Pieces de Luth, ca. 1672, or are there some other versions in old tablature books? Wayne To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://mss.slweiss.de/index.php?lang=engid=1exFilter=1type=mssst=0title=Tombeau+de+Mezangeaukey=msnam=comp= 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html