Sourceforge?
I just created my sourceforge account. Who can add me to the list of user/admins of the lyxbugs project? I figure I can try tackling a bug or two here or there in my copious spare time. ---Kayvan -- Kayvan A. Sylvan | Proud husband of | Father to my kids: Sylvan Associates, Inc.| Laura Isabella Sylvan | Katherine Yelena http://www.successlinks.com/kayvan | Reach your goals now! | Robin Gregory
Re: mathed78.diff
I've found another bug: The size of big operators in display equation is like in inline equation and not bigger. [...] Ok. I had a couple of hours sleep over it. Mathed is currently broken and unusable for serious work. I have stated this several times already. Mathed is after application of the current patch (i.e. 78) still broken and unusable for serious work. Mathed will remain broken and unusable for serious work until the remaining bits are finished or unless a complete roll back to the state of January happens. The remaining bits are more or less the iterator/cursor and the display size stuff and comprise perhaps 10% of the whole thing, rather less I guess. The old math cursor and the new multicell stuff are not overly compatible. mathed78.diff marks some kind of niche of peaceful co-existence between the two (there are a few three-line-changes that would move us closer to the center of that niche, but that's rather cosmetics...) Most of the current problems are certainly fixable by throwing enough glue code between the cursor and the multicell stuff. This mean un-doing some of the separation work and would be a major hindrance for exactly those 10% of the work that remain. There is always the option of a complete roll back so nothing is really lost. Working on glue that will get thrown out in a few weeks is wasted time and annoying. So I simply won't do it. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bolzano, here I come
Hi, I've booked my flight to the Famous LyX Drinking Meeting: I'm leaving from Copenhagen the 22th of June, and arrive in Milan at 14.10. I'm going home from Milan the 26th of June at 13.50. That should be enough time to get drunk and sober a few times. Jurgen, I hope you can pick me up at the station in Bolzano, but we can coordinate that later. See you, Asger
Re: Bolzano, here I come
Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Hi, | | I've booked my flight to the Famous LyX Drinking Meeting: | | I'm leaving from Copenhagen the 22th of June, and arrive in Milan at | 14.10. I'm going home from Milan the 26th of June at 13.50. That should be | enough time to get drunk and sober a few times. | | Jurgen, I hope you can pick me up at the station in Bolzano, but | we can coordinate that later. I'll see if I can coordinate with you. -- Lgb
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Andre Poenitz wrote: PS: Juergen: Do you have fees for the motorways in Italy? If so, do you know whether I can pay them in advance somewhere? Anything else one needs to know? it's only about 10.000 Lire from brenner to bozen Herbert
Re: mathed78.diff
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - I'm afraid that the expansion of macro instances when editing them is a little bit annoying. I wonder if it possible to draw the expansion box, without changing anything else in the display. In other words, the expansion box is drawn over the buffer. Andre This would surely be possible, but some this means hiding Andre some of the macro's context. I don't know whether this is a Andre good idea. Is it possible to do you new style editing only when there is a repeated argument in the definition? I.e. edit in place arguments that appear only once, and edit separately the other ones. I realize that may be very difficult to do in some cases (and I agree that handling correctly macros that repeat their argument is very important). JMarc
Re: lyx websites
Allan == Allan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Allan Also I'm not sure which standard we should be choosing. I think Allan most of us just wanted to get HTML-4.01final but if you are Allan happy to continue developing the site I'm happy for you to Allan decide which standard is best. You're the man with industry Allan experience after all. It would be nice to chose a standard ensuring that the pages are usable with netscape 3.0 and text browsers. JMarc
Re: CSS for the website
Michael == Michael A Koziarski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Mozilla's great, Konqueror is too. Opera is good, Netscape 6 Michael is kinda bloated but allright. Michael Hell, even Lynx will do the job right. The problem with NS4 Michael is that it *thinks* it knows about css and attempts to Michael process it. It would be nice to have the site work with NS4 anway. I am all for using clean HTML, but our ultimate goal is to have the site accessible by lots of people (including me :). I do not care if some bells (or whistles) are not accessible to NS4 users, as long as the site is functional. And will browsers which do not know about css work?
Re: mathed78.diff
Andre This would surely be possible, but some this means hiding Andre some of the macro's context. I don't know whether this is a Andre good idea. Is it possible to do you new style editing only when there is a repeated argument in the definition? Well... we could try that. There is no obvious solution though. The old style (inline) editing was only possible by the (ab)use of the macro template itself for drawing which is breaks with nesting of macros of the same kind. Nowadays inline editing would mean to make macros some kind of 'multicell inset with dynamic layout' (sort of \sqrt[]{} and \frac, but varing positions for the nested parts). Probably doable, but not in five minutes. I even like the 'multicell' part since this would mean more code sharing with the other insets (macros are still somewhat special...) Personally, I'd like to have some visual feedback (a) that I am editing macro arguments at all (b) the name of the macro I am editing (a) is easy with another box color or so, (b) could be done with the minibuffer, so I am really not religuos about the current layout. But I'd put that in the cosmetics category I you don't mind... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mathed78.diff
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Personally, I'd like to have some visual feedback (a) that I am Andre editing macro arguments at all (b) the name of the macro I am Andre editing Andre (a) is easy with another box color or so, (b) could be done Andre with the minibuffer, so I am really not religuos about the Andre current layout. Andre But I'd put that in the cosmetics category I you don't Andre mind... Certainly (although I did not try to actually edit a document with the new scheme). And what about using an explicit command to open the macro inset? JMarc
Re: mathed78.diff
Certainly (although I did not try to actually edit a document with the new scheme). Simply try it. And what about using an explicit command to open the macro inset? You mean ordinary cursor movement jump over the unopened macro in one step and some key combination explicitly opens it? *shrug* Should not be hard. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: compose key not working in CVS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: | Garst R. Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | | Workarea event: KEYBOARD | | WorkArea: Key is `' [0] | | WorkArea: Keysym is `Multi_key' [65312] | | Workarea event: KEYBOARD | | WorkArea: Key is `' [0] | | WorkArea: Keysym is `c' [99] | | Workarea event: KEYBOARD | | WorkArea: Key is `' [0] | | WorkArea: Keysym is `' [0] | | Workarea event: KEYBOARD | | WorkArea: Key is `copyright' [169] | | WorkArea: Keysym is `' [0] | | Using keysym [B] | | Workarea Diff: 2830209853 | | KeySym is copyright[169] State is [1] | | action first set to [-1] | | meta_fake_bit is [0] | | action now set to [-1] | | Key [-1][S-copyright] | | Removing modifiers... | | Action now set to [87] | | TmpKeysym [0] | | SelfInsert arg[] | | -- | | But the copyright symbol never shows up. | | Nothing else in compose worked either. | | Garst | | The log looks correct... | | I have to investigate this. Will do after the weekend. Ok, I have changed most of this handling so now I have dead-keys, Composed keys and AltGr keys working in my tree. I am not quite sure how this change will work out for non latin-1 languages, but as long as the fonts are setup correctly there should be no problem. I'll commit pretty soon. -- Lgb
RE: Cannot build Lyx under Solaris
That did the trick Thanks Duncan -Original Message- On Mon, 28 May 2001, Webb, Duncan wrote: I cannot link either 1.1.6fix1 or 1.1.6fix2 under Solaris. Everything seems to compile okay but when the program is linked the following message is shown: undefined reference to `insert_unique__t8_Rb_tree5Zt12basic... As a quick possible workaround try configuring --with-included-string. It seems compiler/linker on Solaris have a tendency to not like the really long names they generate for types. Otherwise you might have a compiler option like -fsquangle. However this option for gcc apparently requires that all your c++ libraries also be squangled. There doesn't appear to be anything dodgy about the code so it would seem to be an STL implementation problem -- or the linker name problem. Allan. (ARRae) This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. CREDIT SUISSE GROUP and each of its subsidiaries each reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Unless otherwise stated, any pricing information given in this message is indicative only, is subject to change and does not constitute an offer to deal at any price quoted. Any reference to the terms of executed transactions should be treated as preliminary only and subject to our formal written confirmation.
Re: Natbib support
On Monday 28 May 2001 16:24, Lars Gullik Bjønnes wrote: Dekel Tsur [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | What is the status with the natbib branch ? | If it is not finished, then it probably requires only little work. | (I really don't know why we have a natbib branch and we don't have a mathed | branch). | I wish to see it merged soon (before 1.2.0). But if it is not donw well I don't want it in LyX yet. f.ex. the pretty-ref stuff went in way to fast... And we have no only crude half-baked support for pretty-ref (to use it properly you have to hack in the preamble) The natbib branch hasn't been touched since before I started the controller/view split of the GUI back in February! Whilst it was easy to implement the basic /citeX stuff two issues remain. * Support for text before and after the citation in a clean way will require a re-writing of the InsetCommandParams struct. * disabling/enabling natbib through the Document dialog is really clunky. All this is documented in the list threads Re: lyx, natbib and alternate \cite commands Re: Problem with Citation dialog I'm really busy at work at the moment and don't really have much spare time to sort this stuff out. I'll see if I can at least update the branch to reflect current cvs. Angus
Re: mathed78.diff
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Certainly (although I did not try to actually edit a document with the new scheme). Andre Simply try it. I did try it. What I do not know is how it would feel in `real life'. And what about using an explicit command to open the macro inset? Andre You mean ordinary cursor movement jump over the unopened Andre macro in one step and some key combination explicitly opens it? Andre *shrug* Should not be hard. I know. The real question is is it a good idea? JMarc
Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +1000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: Hi, It's good that you put together the deb. However, I still experienced the slowness when lyx calls latex from this deb. Do you have this problem on your box with this deb? The only way I can get lyx to run properly (both 1.1.6fix2 and 1.2.0cvs) is to use gcc-3.0. My locally compiled lyx-1.1.6fix2 (with gcc-3.0) works pretty well. You might consider recompile lyx with gcc-3.0 to work around the slownes instead of exporting to latex and compile by hand. Curiously, I don't see this problem on my system. Maybe I should test some more. BTW, do you know whether the real maintainer will release lyx 1.1.6fix2 anytime soon? I emailed hime once and got no reply. Did I not reply? Sorry. I thought I had. I have packaged 1.1.6fix2 and will probably upload it soon. The reason I never uploaded 1.1.6fix1 was I felt it was a regression on 1.1.5fix2... it's hard to be sure, but I felt it might hurt users more than help them. Jules
Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:21:34PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chanop Silpa-Anan) writes: BTW, do you know whether the real maintainer will release lyx 1.1.6fix2 anytime soon? I emailed hime once and got no reply. I don't know. If he could be maintaining the LyX Debian package more frequently i wouldn't bother compiling it on my own. I guess he has a good reason for not regularily updating the Debian package. Maybe he cares mostly about stable releases (which is a very good reason IMHO)? I don't have as much time for maintaining LyX as I'd like, but the decision not to upload 1.1.6fix1 was deliberate, and, I think, discussed on this list. 1.1.6fix2 hasn't been out for that long... I have packaged it, and I will upload it shortly if there are no problems with it. Jules
Re: Lyx Mathpanel (fwd)
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 12:57:48PM -0500, Alejandro Aguilar Sierra wrote: Suggestion: The mathpanel should contain hints on latex syntax for the provided symbols. This could be achieved by popups appearing when the mouse pointer rests above a button. Effect: The user could easily lookup commands which he then can use in future. Which he already can, they appear in the mini-buffer when you insert them. That's how I learnt most of the symbols: the math-panel plus looking in the mini-buffer. Jules
Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 08:07:00AM -0700, Kayvan A. Sylvan wrote: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:21:34PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: To tell the truth, i even don't really use LyX myself, maybe just a few times a year. I feel more comfortable with AUCTeX on any kind of (X)Emacs and actually only compile the unofficial .deb because i like LyX so much, that i want others to be able to just drop in a mostly up to date release. LyX is just too great to be ignored... ;-) Thanks for the feedback, P. *8^) Is there an rpm2deb utility somewhere? Maybe the Redhat RPM could work as a base for the debian package? Yes, it's trivial enough to install LyX using alien. There is little advantage to that over a source compile, though: debian packaging is as much about integration with the rest of the system as it is about providing binaries. Jules
Re: Bolzano, here I come
Asger == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Asger Hi, I've booked my flight to the Famous LyX Drinking Meeting: Asger I'm leaving from Copenhagen the 22th of June, and arrive in Asger Milan at 14.10. I'm going home from Milan the 26th of June at Asger 13.50. That should be enough time to get drunk and sober a few Asger times. I will arrive in verona (by train) the 23th of june at 6h28 in the morning. From there, I'll catch a train to Bolzano (not sure I'll get the 6h40 one, since I do not have a ticket). My return train is on the 26th of June at 21h42 at Verona. Asger Jurgen, I hope you can pick me up at the station in Bolzano, Asger but we can coordinate that later. Same here. JMarc
Re: CSS for the website
It would be nice to have the site work with NS4 anway. I am all for using clean HTML, but our ultimate goal is to have the site accessible by lots of people (including me :). I do not care if some bells (or whistles) are not accessible to NS4 users, as long as the site is functional. I agree with you here. NS4 should fetch and render the site fine. You just might be short some pretty-ness. And will browsers which do not know about css work? Yes, they should work fine. CSS was always meant to be backwards compatible. The problem with NS4 is that unlike lynx (and other css-less browsers) NS4 considers itself able to render the CSS and attempts (badly) to do so. css-less browsers will just ignore the CSS commands and use default fonts / colours. Cheers -- | Michael Koziarski |Conventional wisdom is often | | BCA/BSc Student, OpenBSD/Linux user | long on convention and short | | Objectivist. | on wisdom -- | | http://www.koziarski.com| Warren E. Buffett, BRK.A |
Re: CSS for the website
Michael == Michael Koziarski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael I agree with you here. NS4 should fetch and render the site Michael fine. You just might be short some pretty-ness. That's perfect with me. Thanks for doing this cleanup job. It was really needed. We will probably need a few hints on the most common errors we'll have to avoid in the pages from now on. JMarc
RE: Bugs of the day
On 28-May-2001 Michael Schmitt wrote: Hi, 1. Open a new document, insert a table, and press the font button - LyX crashes. This is general. Open a new document and press the font button - LyX crashes! This is most probably a problem in the CharacterLayout or the Controler/View split. Angus could you have a look at this? The segfault happens in the Apply function of the CharaterLayout. Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way before it is understood.
RE: Bolzano, here I come
On 29-May-2001 Asger K. Alstrup Nielsen wrote: Hi, I've booked my flight to the Famous LyX Drinking Meeting: Come on did we ever drink TOO much in a meeting? I'm leaving from Copenhagen the 22th of June, and arrive in Milan at 14.10. I'm going home from Milan the 26th of June at 13.50. That should be enough time to get drunk and sober a few times. Good! Jurgen, I hope you can pick me up at the station in Bolzano, but we can coordinate that later. No problem we do it as last time! I just have to know when you arrive, but as you said this can be handled in time (and you probably will have a cell phone so you can call me from the train ;) Ciao, Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ I wasn't kissing her, I was whispering in her mouth. -- Chico Marx
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On 29-May-2001 Andre Poenitz wrote: A few times within four days? No we never got drunk, just happy ;) Well, I have not been _really_ drunk for a while now, but as far as I remember this takes more than a day... Well as far as I can remember I'm not used to alkohol so I get drunk really fast #:O) On the other hand memory tends to fail in such cases :-} Hmmm, ... PS: Juergen: Do you have fees for the motorways in Italy? If so, do you know whether I can pay them in advance somewhere? Anything else one needs to know? Well there are fees on the Highway, but you can use normal streets too. I don't think you can pay them in advance and it's 10.000 Lire (5 Euro) from Brennero-Brenner to Bolzano-Bozen (Nord). Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Lavish spending can be disastrous. Don't buy any lavishes for a while.
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I will arrive in verona (by train) the 23th of june at 6h28 in the morning. From there, I'll catch a train to Bolzano (not sure I'll get the 6h40 one, since I do not have a ticket). My return train is on the 26th of June at 21h42 at Verona. If you are VERY lucky, but I don't think you'll get that in time if you have to buy the ticket. Well the next one would be 5 minutes later and then there is one at 7:45. Pay attention that for the 06:40 you have to pay an extra fee for EuroCity. Asger Jurgen, I hope you can pick me up at the station in Bolzano, Asger but we can coordinate that later. Same here. Sure I'll be there and as you arrive quite early you will receive a breakfast too ;) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ What I want to find out is -- do parrots know much about Astro-Turf?
Re: Bolzano, here I come
Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: I will arrive in verona (by train) the 23th of june at 6h28 in the morning. From there, I'll catch a train to Bolzano (not sure I'll get the 6h40 one, since I do not have a ticket). My return train is on the 26th of June at 21h42 at Verona. Juergen If you are VERY lucky, but I don't think you'll get that in Juergen time if you have to buy the ticket. Well the next one would Juergen be 5 minutes later and then there is one at 7:45. Pay Juergen attention that for the 06:40 you have to pay an extra fee for Juergen EuroCity. And I guess it is not possible to get the ticket in advance? Juergen Sure I'll be there and as you arrive quite early you will Juergen receive a breakfast too ;) Ahhh, that's nice. JMarc
Oddity with External material
I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2. I just added some External material (xfig diagrams) to a figure float. Everything seems to work, but when I load the file into LyX again, I get the following errors on the console: Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last inset read was: External Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last inset read was: External The relevant bit of the LyX file looks like: \begin_inset External XFig,callsync.fig, \end_inset ...and a little later \begin_inset External XFig,thsync.fig, \end_inset -- http://sc3d.org/rrt/ | Academics age by degrees
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: And I guess it is not possible to get the ticket in advance? Well I guess you can buy the train-ticket instead only to Verona directly to Bolzano, from there, can't you? Juergen Sure I'll be there and as you arrive quite early you will Juergen receive a breakfast too ;) Ahhh, that's nice. #:O) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and grieve at a funeral? It is because we are not the person involved. -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar
Re: Bolzano, here I come
Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: And I guess it is not possible to get the ticket in advance? Juergen Well I guess you can buy the train-ticket instead only to Juergen Verona directly to Bolzano, from there, can't you? Not from france, it seems... JMarc
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2, in which math-mode is bound to C-c Reuben asciitilde in xemacs.bind. This is an impossible binding on Reuben my keyboard, where I can only get a tilde by pressing shift, Reuben and I had to change it to C-c S-asciitilde to get it to Reuben work. Reuben Also, what does ~S mean in a binding? It seems to have the Reuben same effect as just S (shift). I fixed that in HEAD and 1_1_6 cvs branches. JMarc
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2, in which math-mode is bound to C-c | Reuben asciitilde in xemacs.bind. This is an impossible binding on | Reuben my keyboard, where I can only get a tilde by pressing shift, | Reuben and I had to change it to C-c S-asciitilde to get it to | Reuben work. | | Reuben Also, what does ~S mean in a binding? It seems to have the | Reuben same effect as just S (shift). | | I fixed that in HEAD and 1_1_6 cvs branches. Note that in HEAD if f.ex. S-copyright is unknown, we remove the modifiers and try with just copyright and if that has a lfun bound to it we use that instead. So Usually from now on the ~S should not be needed anymore. (most cases, I have not checked this completely) -- Lgb
Re: Oddity with External material
Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2. I just added some External material Reuben (xfig diagrams) to a figure float. Reuben Everything seems to work, but when I load the file into LyX Reuben again, I get the following errors on the console: Reuben Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last inset read Reuben was: External Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last Reuben inset read was: External Indeed, InsetExternal::Read does not read the \end_inset as other insets do. I guess this should be fixed. Wouldn't it be a good idea to add an Inset::gobbleEndInset method just to do this instead of cutandpasting code from (for ex.) insetquote? JMarc
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Note that in HEAD if f.ex. S-copyright is unknown, we remove Lars the modifiers and try with just copyright and if that has a Lars lfun bound to it we use that instead. Is it just for shift? It does not look like a good idea with C- or M-. Lars So Usually from now on the ~S should not be needed anymore. Lars (most cases, I have not checked this completely) That's good. JMarc
Re: asciitilde binding bug
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 12:40:38PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2, in which math-mode is bound to C-c Reuben asciitilde in xemacs.bind. This is an impossible binding on Reuben my keyboard, where I can only get a tilde by pressing shift, Reuben and I had to change it to C-c S-asciitilde to get it to Reuben work. Note that this is symptomatic of a wider bindings problem: the bindings are often slightly keyboard specific. For example, the binding for subsection* is (from memory) something like M-p S-numbersign. But what this really 'means' is M-p S-3, by analogy with M-p 3 for subsection. On many keyboards, S-3 is numbersign, so S-numbersign is correct. On UK keyboards, S-3 is pound... Similarly shift-2 is @ on some keyboards, and on others. Would Lyx understand S-3, instead of S-numbersign?? Jules
Re: Oddity with External material
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2. I just added some External material | Reuben (xfig diagrams) to a figure float. | | Reuben Everything seems to work, but when I load the file into LyX | Reuben again, I get the following errors on the console: | | Reuben Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last inset read | Reuben was: External Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last | Reuben inset read was: External | | Indeed, InsetExternal::Read does not read the \end_inset as other | insets do. I guess this should be fixed. | | Wouldn't it be a good idea to add an Inset::gobbleEndInset method just | to do this instead of cutandpasting code from (for ex.) insetquote? Is this a problem only with 1.1.6? I can't see how this could happen in HEAD? enlighthen me please. -- Lgb
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Note that in HEAD if f.ex. S-copyright is unknown, we remove | Lars the modifiers and try with just copyright and if that has a | Lars lfun bound to it we use that instead. | | Is it just for shift? It does not look like a good idea with C- or M-. Well IMO it is a good idea even for M- and C- Let's assume that C-a is not bound to anything. Then the first lookup will return -1 (no func), the we lookup again without C- and get self-insert as the fun. _If_ C-a had been bound then we would've run that fun instead. If you see any problems with this please tell. -- Lgb
[daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Some food for thought. JMarc --- Start of forwarded message --- FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:16:44 +0200 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Daniele Pighin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the following feedback message on the LyX home page: Today I took a look at texmacs http://www.texmacs.org, an application that is a sort of bridge between LyX and Emacs. Though I still prefere Lyx for writing my scientific documents (especially because of the good documentation that come with it), texmacs has several features that would make LyX even better. First of all, several aspects of texmacs math-editor are faster and more intuitive. A few examples: to write LaTeX' \Longleftrightarrow (which is quite slow and unfriendly) you simply write in sequence ==; = automagically becomes a Latex \ge, = a \Rightarrow, and so on (a disadvantage of LyX is that if you want to edit formulas fast and with all the needed symbol, the best way is learning by heart LaTeX math-mode commands). Moreover, it displays screen output (almost) exactly as the printed document will be: so, the foresaid == wouldn't be displayed as it is, instead, as soon as you digit the last and strike the spacebar, it would become a PostScript-like-looking equivalence symbol. So, I think that taking a look at texmacs to use some of its best aspects in Lyx would be a good thing. Then, there are a couple of things I've always been thinking about since I started using LyX (that is a really GREAT application, anyway). First, I've always missed a header/footer editor. Documents have to be nicely printed and organized, of course, and LyX does it with really few human efforts. But documents might be also nice looking, or personalized, and this is quite difficult if you don't have a good TeX/LaTeX background, and a friendly editor (especially for fancy headers) to allow the user to customize the size of the rules, the content of the header on the left, the header on the right, and so on, would be quite good. Second... wouldn't it be nice to make it easier to add Xfig's .pslatex to a document?? This is not all, but it is enough :) Thanks for Lyx, good Job Daniele --- End of forwarded message ---
[sedivyp@fel.cvut.cz] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Juergen, can you confirm this bug? JMarc --- Start of forwarded message --- Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:45:53 +0200 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feedback from www.lyx.org FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pavel Sedivy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) entered the following feedback message on the LyX home page: I would like to ask about table column width setting problem - when I changed this parameter in table col properties, it worked only within lyx view - it didn't affect dvi/ps output. This problem rise with 1.1.6 version an persists even in fix2. Is it known bug ? thanks Pavel --- End of forwarded message ---
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 12:40:38PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: | Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2, in which math-mode is bound to C-c | Reuben asciitilde in xemacs.bind. This is an impossible binding on | Reuben my keyboard, where I can only get a tilde by pressing shift, | Reuben and I had to change it to C-c S-asciitilde to get it to | Reuben work. | | Note that this is symptomatic of a wider bindings problem: the | bindings are often slightly keyboard specific. For example, the | binding for subsection* is (from memory) something like M-p | S-numbersign. But what this really 'means' is M-p S-3, by analogy with | M-p 3 for subsection. On many keyboards, S-3 is numbersign, so | S-numbersign is correct. On UK keyboards, S-3 is pound... | | Similarly shift-2 is @ on some keyboards, and on others. | | Would Lyx understand S-3, instead of S-numbersign?? No. -- Lgb
Re: Bolzano, here I come
Well there are fees on the Highway, but you can use normal streets too. I don't think you can pay them in advance and it's 10.000 Lire (5 Euro) from Brennero-Brenner to Bolzano-Bozen (Nord). Ok... so I hope there are no traps like the one near Basel. (You can cross the Suisse border on motorway there but you have no chance to pay the fee. Which in turn makes police very happy... Of course one could leave the motorway already on the German side and go there using ordinary roads (which is even shorter), but there are no hints for the unknowing...) -- Well. Bozen... I have not yet decided when to start here. We have a meeting till Wednesday that I have to attend, but I think I could leave there early. On the other hand there is another interesting event from Wednesday to Friday that I would like to attend, so I do not really know what to do. I think we could leave on Thursday afternoon or early in the evening which probably means arriving (very) early Friday morning. How long do you usually work at night? Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Odd message
From time to time I get the following message on my console: LyXAction::funcHasFlag: No info about kb_action: 171 I've no idea what's causing it, and don't seem to be experiencing any problems; I presume it's caused by some keypress, but I haven't been quick enough to spot which it is yet. I'm using 1.1.6fix2. -- http://sc3d.org/rrt/ | competent, a. underpromoted
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
A few examples: to write LaTeX' \Longleftrightarrow (which is quite slow and unfriendly) you simply write in sequence ==; = automagically becomes a Latex \ge, = a \Rightarrow, and so on (a disadvantage of LyX is that if you want to edit formulas fast and with all the needed symbol, the best way is learning by heart LaTeX math-mode commands). Moreover, it displays screen output (almost) exactly as the printed document will be: so, the foresaid == wouldn't be displayed as it is, instead, as soon as you digit the last and strike the spacebar, it would become a PostScript-like-looking equivalence symbol. I don't see any reason to hardcode it. If this feature is wanted it can be implemented using \bind M-m S-less equal S-greater math-insert Longleftrightarrow \bind M-m S-less equal math-insert le Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fcode()
Could anyone please check if there are any user visible changes if short MathedIter::fcode() const { return fcode_; } is replaced by short MathedIter::fcode() const { return -1; } in mathed/math_iter.C Thank you. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oddity with External material
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2. I just added some External Lars material | Reuben (xfig diagrams) to a figure float. | | Lars Reuben Everything seems to work, but when I load the file into Lars LyX | Reuben again, I get the following errors on the console: Lars | | Reuben Solitary \end_inset. Missing \begin_inset?. Last Lars inset read | Reuben was: External Solitary \end_inset. Missing Lars \begin_inset?. Last | Reuben inset read was: External | | Lars Indeed, InsetExternal::Read does not read the \end_inset as Lars other | insets do. I guess this should be fixed. | | Wouldn't it Lars be a good idea to add an Inset::gobbleEndInset method just | to Lars do this instead of cutandpasting code from (for ex.) insetquote? Lars Is this a problem only with 1.1.6? I can't see how this could Lars happen in HEAD? enlighthen me please. This has been fixed in HEAD by Angus: 2001-03-12 Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ExternalTemplate.C (read): the reading of external insets now checks for \end_inset and removes it form the input stream. I guess I should take this code and add it to the 1.1.6 branch. JMarc
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | A few examples: | |to write LaTeX' \Longleftrightarrow (which is quite slow and | unfriendly) you simply write in sequence ==; = automagically | becomes a Latex \ge, = a \Rightarrow, and so on (a | disadvantage of LyX is that if you want to edit formulas fast and | with all the needed symbol, the best way is learning by heart LaTeX | math-mode commands). Moreover, it displays screen output (almost) | exactly as the printed document will be: so, the foresaid == | wouldn't be displayed as it is, instead, as soon as you digit the last | and strike the spacebar, it would become a PostScript-like-looking | equivalence symbol. | | I don't see any reason to hardcode it. | | If this feature is wanted it can be implemented using | | \bind M-m S-less equal S-greater math-insert Longleftrightarrow | \bind M-m S-less equal math-insert le Agree. But one thing that we might want to have is separeate domains for the different dispatch regions, so that we have a separate collection of bindings that are only available in mathed. \math_bind S sum that overrides the standard \bind S self-insert when in math mode. -- Lgb
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Let's assume that C-a is not bound to anything. Then the first Lars lookup will return -1 (no func), the we lookup again without C- Lars and get self-insert as the fun. _If_ C-a had been bound then we Lars would've run that fun instead. You mean that if I type C-a because I am used to emacs bindings, but my bindings are CUA, I will insert an a instead? That's a terrible thing to do!! If I encountered such a thing, I think I'd file it as a bug right away. This is agains the 'least surprise' principle of any UI. JMarc PS: think about what happen if the non shifted version of the lfun is destructive.
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Let's assume that C-a is not bound to anything. Then the first | Lars lookup will return -1 (no func), the we lookup again without C- | Lars and get self-insert as the fun. _If_ C-a had been bound then we | Lars would've run that fun instead. | | You mean that if I type C-a because I am used to emacs bindings, but | my bindings are CUA, I will insert an a instead? That's a terrible | thing to do!! and I don't agree. ... or course I could ... instead of removing all modifiers when doing the second check just remove shift. | If I encountered such a thing, I think I'd file it as a | bug right away. | | This is agains the 'least surprise' principle of any UI. | | JMarc | | PS: think about what happen if the non shifted version of the lfun is | destructive. would you be overly surprised if C-delete actually deleted something? but I agree a bit... tiny bit -- Lgb
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few examples: to write LaTeX' \Longleftrightarrow (which is quite slow and unfriendly) you simply write in sequence ==; = automagically becomes a Latex \ge, = a \Rightarrow, and so on (a disadvantage of LyX is that if you want to edit formulas fast and with all the needed symbol, the best way is learning by heart LaTeX math-mode commands). Moreover, it displays screen output (almost) exactly as the printed document will be: so, the foresaid == wouldn't be displayed as it is, instead, as soon as you digit the last and strike the spacebar, it would become a PostScript-like-looking equivalence symbol. Andre I don't see any reason to hardcode it. Andre If this feature is wanted it can be implemented using Andre \bind M-m S-less equal S-greater math-insert Andre Longleftrightarrow \bind M-m S-less equal math-insert le That is probably a good idea, in fact. It has already been proposed here http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg09164.html A volunteer to prepare a list of bindings (and document it)? JMarc
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars But one thing that we might want to have is separeate domains Lars for the different dispatch regions, so that we have a separate Lars collection of bindings that are only available in mathed. Lars \math_bind S sum Lars that overrides the standard Lars \bind S self-insert You mean that you never use the letter S in maths? Again, this looks terrible to me. Of course, we could decide to bind M-s to sum, but then we have to make sure this is a win. However, the differentiation between math and non math could be useful for a few functions which currently have different semantics depending on the mode. It does not look too difficult to implement, but I may be wrong. JMarc
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars would you be overly surprised if C-delete actually deleted Lars something? Yes, if I was used to a wordprocessor where C-Delete only suppresses paragraph formatting, for example. JMarc
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Agree. But one thing that we might want to have is separeate domains for the different dispatch regions, so that we have a separate collection of bindings that are only available in mathed. \math_bind S sum that overrides the standard \bind S self-insert Maybe 'S' is not a good example since we need real S's from time to time, but I guess your idea covers things like 'less' too ;-) If so, it would not mind to have it... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre Maybe 'S' is not a good example since we need real S's from Andre time to time, but I guess your idea covers things like 'less' Andre too ;-) What would you do with 'less'? I also use in my documents. JMarc
Crash with Delete in latest CVS
Hello, With this afternoon's CVS, LyX crashes when I press the Delete key in some conditions : when I delete a piece of selected text which is at the end of the document. One consistent way to do is to create a new document, cut and paste from another application, select the whole pasted text, and deleting it with the Delete key. I'm joining the output of lyx -dbg key. If other info is needed, I will send it. Adrien --
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars But one thing that we might want to have is separeate domains | Lars for the different dispatch regions, so that we have a separate | Lars collection of bindings that are only available in mathed. | | Lars \math_bind S sum | | Lars that overrides the standard | | Lars \bind S self-insert | | You mean that you never use the letter S in maths? Again, this looks | terrible to me. Of course, we could decide to bind M-s to sum, but | then we have to make sure this is a win. Bare et eksempel, Helge | However, the differentiation between math and non math could be useful | for a few functions which currently have different semantics depending | on the mode. It does not look too difficult to implement, but I may be | wrong. quite a few things that would have to change. f.ex. how we call dispatch. But this is not 1.2 stuff, more like 1.3. -- Lgb
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Not from france, it seems... I seem to remember that you should be able to buy your ticket in the train. I'll inform myself and let you know. BTW 12 minutes are a bit short and it would be a real wonder if you will arrive in time (one train is not waiting for the other to arrive!) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ When things go well, expect something to explode, erode, collapse or just disappear.
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Bare et eksempel, Helge I dare not disagree such a statement. Lars | However, the differentiation between math and non math could Lars be useful | for a few functions which currently have different Lars semantics depending | on the mode. It does not look too Lars difficult to implement, but I may be | wrong. Lars quite a few things that would have to change. f.ex. how we call Lars dispatch. But this is not 1.2 stuff, more like 1.3. Why changing dispatch? It is just a matter of having an additional list of bindings for maths. We first try in the additional list, and then in the main one when there is no match. JMarc
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
What would you do with 'less'? I also use in my documents. Well, bind 'less space' to 'self-insert ' and 'less equal' to 'math-insert le' for instance. Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
More bugs
Hi, enclosed please find an updated list of bugs. Please have a look at item 10 which makes me feel quite uncomfortable... Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
More bugs (fwd)
Ok, here comes the list... Michael -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:17:26 +0200 (CEST) From: Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: More bugs Hi, enclosed please find an updated list of bugs. Please have a look at item 10 which makes me feel quite uncomfortable... Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de == Hi, 1. Open a new document, insert a table, and press the font button - LyX crashes. 2. Insert a figure float into a document, then insert a minipage into the float. Enter some TeX code in the minipage (use CTRL+Returns). Move the cursor (leave the minipage, enter it again, etc.) and try to select/cut/paste some text from time to time. After a few operations you will notice that the text selection is not correct any longer (the wrong selection is marked). 3. The Apply button in the character layout dialog does not work correctly because it is deactivated after the first application. 4. In the label dialog, could you please rearrange the buttons? I am used to click the right-most button in order to cancel a dialog. 5. If you open a float with a figure as its first element, the figure dialog is always opened at the same time. 6. captions are still not handled correctly on screen. 7. In the include file dialog, the load button does not work. I just get the console message OkCancelReadOnlyPolicy: No transition for input 3 from state 0 8. Opening and closing of floats only raises the console message A truly unknown func! 9. Create a new 5x5 table and insert e e e e ... in the first cell until the cell becomes larger than the screen, then (if you have luck and LyX does not repaint infinitely!), move one cell down and try to insert some text - the red box is not drawn correctly 10. When cutting normal text (no floats, no minipages, just plain text), the cursor is not moved correctly. Instead it stays at the same position (on screen). This is, of course, wrong. The cursor should be moved right in front of the text which has been cut. ARGHH. THIS IS CRITICAL - LyX crashes after a several operations! 11. During compilation gcc -Wall reports a couple of warnings that might be fixed.
RE: [sedivyp@fel.cvut.cz] Feedback from www.lyx.org
On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Juergen, can you confirm this bug? This would seem really strange to me! I would need an example file to see what happens, I cannot reproduce it! Jürgen I would like to ask about table column width setting problem - when I changed this parameter in table col properties, it worked only within lyx view - it didn't affect dvi/ps output. This problem rise with 1.1.6 version an persists even in fix2. -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ If graphics hackers are so smart, why can't they get the bugs out of fresh paint?
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Bare et eksempel, Helge | | I dare not disagree such a statement. Good! | Lars | However, the differentiation between math and non math could | Lars be useful | for a few functions which currently have different | Lars semantics depending | on the mode. It does not look too | Lars difficult to implement, but I may be | wrong. | | Lars quite a few things that would have to change. f.ex. how we call | Lars dispatch. But this is not 1.2 stuff, more like 1.3. | | Why changing dispatch? It is just a matter of having an additional | list of bindings for maths. We first try in the additional list, and | then in the main one when there is no match. Well, part of this is to have lfuns that are only avaliable in mathed too. Or that in math mode overrides the standard lfun. -- Lgb
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lars Well, part of this is to have lfuns that are only avaliable in Lars mathed too. Or that in math mode overrides the standard lfun. We could add a flag in LyXAction to those lfuns telling that they are math-only. JMarc
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On 29-May-2001 Andre Poenitz wrote: Ok... so I hope there are no traps like the one near Basel. You probably know that there is no German-Italian borderline, do you? So this trap exists also on the Austrian Motorway (which you probably have to pass Kufstein-Brenner) and you need to buy the tax on the border! Italian motorway do have toll-stops on every Entry-Exit so there's no way you can miss them ;) I think we could leave on Thursday afternoon or early in the evening which probably means arriving (very) early Friday morning. How long do you usually work at night? Well it seems most of the people will arrive on Friday so I will probably not work that long on Thursday. But I'm up at 6.00 normally in the morning as Kai has his own idea of Breakfast time #:O) Anyway if you tell me more or less when you're arriving I'll give you my phone-number and you can get me out of the bed quite easily #:O) Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Security check: INTRUDER ALERT!
Re: More bugs (fwd)
Michael == Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael 4. In the label dialog, could you please rearrange the Michael buttons? I am used to click the right-most button in order to Michael cancel a dialog. This popup has not been changed to a real one yet. It still uses the ugly default text entry form. Michael ARGHH. THIS IS CRITICAL - LyX crashes after a several Michael operations! This is a case where a good purify run would be useful... What is the status here? I remember a patch the I only applied partly (what remains is the part with pointer to members). If compaq cxx and gcc like it, I'll apply it. Will you be able to run/test LyX after that? JMarc
Re: [daniele@dcs.it] Feedback from www.lyx.org
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Lars == Lars Gullik Bjønnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Lars Well, part of this is to have lfuns that are only avaliable in | Lars mathed too. Or that in math mode overrides the standard lfun. | | We could add a flag in LyXAction to those lfuns telling that they are | math-only. I'd like to store them separately too. -- Lgb
Re: More bugs (fwd)
On 29 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Michael ARGHH. THIS IS CRITICAL - LyX crashes after a several Michael operations! This is a case where a good purify run would be useful... Yes, indeed. I can't run Purify right now on my machine but Rational is expected to release a new version soon that also supports gcc-2.95.2 on Solaris. Maybe someone who works on another platform would like to download a try'n'buy version of Purify in the meanwhile (and I think this person will safe all his money to buy this wonderful tool afterwards). .. I remember a patch the I only applied partly (what remains is the part with pointer to members). If compaq cxx and gcc like it, I'll apply it. Will you be able to run/test LyX after that? Yesterday, I tried to compile again but faced some problems with the STL and incomplete types in sigc++. So I decided to wait for the next version of Purify. Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: More bugs
On Tue, 29 May 2001, Michael Schmitt wrote: enclosed please find an updated list of bugs. Please have a look at item 10 which makes me feel quite uncomfortable... In fact, LyX crashes if you delete text at the end of a line/paragraph, i.e. when the cursor is in nowhere land after text deletion. Michael -- == Michael Schmittphone: +49 451 500 3725 Institute for Telematics secretary: +49 451 500 3721 Medical University of Luebeck fax: +49 451 500 3722 Ratzeburger Allee 160 eMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-23538 Luebeck, Germany WWW: http://www.itm.mu-luebeck.de ==
Re: More bugs (fwd)
Michael == Michael Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Yesterday, I tried to compile again but faced some problems Michael with the STL and incomplete types in sigc++. So I decided to Michael wait for the next version of Purify. Could you find the latest patch you had so that I try to apply it? JMarc
RE: [sedivyp@fel.cvut.cz] Feedback from www.lyx.org
On 29-May-2001 Pavel Sedivy wrote: On Tue, 29 May 2001, Juergen Vigna wrote: I send yoy some file - with lyx tex table - lyx file, dialog snapshot and pdf file. I thing it doesn't work properly. thank you for information, thank you for lyx improvement. Well the problem is you used the Alignment fields also. This alignment fields are exclusive, this means that if you fill them in they are used and not others! You put there an l for left-aligned so obviously LyX did output the table with an l alignment and not with the p{5cm} alignment it would if you would have left that field empty. Hope this helps, Jürgen -- -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Dr. Jürgen VignaE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Italienallee 13/N Tel/Fax: +39-0471-450260 / +39-0471-450253 I-39100 Bozen Web: http://www.sad.it/~jug -._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._-._ Are we THERE yet? My MIND is a SUBMARINE!!
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jules Note that this is symptomatic of a wider bindings problem: the Jules bindings are often slightly keyboard specific. For example, the Jules binding for subsection* is (from memory) something like M-p Jules S-numbersign. But what this really 'means' is M-p S-3, by Jules analogy with M-p 3 for subsection. On many keyboards, S-3 is Jules numbersign, so S-numbersign is correct. On UK keyboards, S-3 is Jules pound... This is very bad, IMO. Could we comeup with better bindings for these? Maybe M-p asterisk 3? JMarc
Re: Oddity with External material
Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reuben I'm using LyX 1.1.6fix2. I just added some External material Reuben (xfig diagrams) to a figure float. Reuben Everything seems to work, but when I load the file into LyX Reuben again, I get the following errors on the console: This is fixed in cvs now. Thanks for the report. JMarc
Re: Bug when loading file in 1.1.6fix1 (ext inset in table)
Helge == Helge Hafting [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Helge Saving reloading the file does not work, re-opening it gives Helge an empty table followed by lots of junk, e.g. cellblah Helge blah as text. Hello, This bug (while it still exists in 1.1.6fix2) should now be fixed in cvs (for next release). JMarc
Re: Bug in Lyx 1.1.6fix1 ?
Charles == Charles de Miramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Charles Hello, I'm using the Lyx 1.1.6fix1 rpm package found on Charles Kavyan A. Sylvan ftp site. When I hit the return key on the Charles numerical keyboard, LyX doesn't create a new paragraph but Charles inserts a space. When you hit the numerical keyboard return Charles key several times, LyX inserts several spaces on the screen Charles and in the resulting .lyx file, eventually generating errors Charles in the latex file. The return key on the main alphabetical Charles keyboard works normally and in every other applications on my Charles Linux box the return key on the numerical keyboard produces a Charles normal carriage return. This is fixed now in cvs. JMarc
Re: [BUG] citation dialog
Angus == Angus Leeming [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry but your previous patch has already been applied. Could you update it? Angus Here it is. Thanks. Applied. JMarc
Re: asciitilde binding bug
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 04:31:56PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jules Note that this is symptomatic of a wider bindings problem: the Jules bindings are often slightly keyboard specific. For example, the Jules binding for subsection* is (from memory) something like M-p Jules S-numbersign. But what this really 'means' is M-p S-3, by Jules analogy with M-p 3 for subsection. On many keyboards, S-3 is Jules numbersign, so S-numbersign is correct. On UK keyboards, S-3 is Jules pound... This is very bad, IMO. Could we comeup with better bindings for these? Maybe M-p asterisk 3? It's a relief someone agrees with me! Yes, M-p asterisk num would seem like a sensible set of bindings to me.. Jules
Re: asciitilde binding bug
Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jules It's a relief someone agrees with me! Jules Yes, M-p asterisk num would seem like a sensible set of Jules bindings to me.. Would you have time to review the bindings and propose an update? In fact, the binding should be M-p ~S-asterisk num. Are there other people who would object to such a change of bindings? We could also decide to keep the old ones for backward compatibility... JMarc
Re: Odd message
Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From time to time I get the following message on my console: Reuben LyXAction::funcHasFlag: No info about kb_action: 171 Reuben I've no idea what's causing it, and don't seem to be Reuben experiencing any problems; I presume it's caused by some Reuben keypress, but I haven't been quick enough to spot which it is Reuben yet. Could it be related with URLs? we had a similar report about that earlier. JMarc
Re: wrong paragraphs when changing textclass in 1.1.6fix1 and cvs
Herbert == Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Herbert changing the textclass gives wrong lyx-paragraphs when the Herbert list of these lyx-paragraphs is not the same. Herbert for example: in my class book caption is the 34th Herbert paragraph-style in the list. changing to koma-script, caption Herbert is the 36th one, because i have for this textclass two more Herbert lyx-paragraphs before caption. therefore i get a wrong Herbert lyx-paragraph for my caption, exactly the 34th one in the Herbert list. lyx changes the paragraphs by number not by name. I cannot reproduce this problem (and in fact, I thought I fixed it a long time ago). Could you give a detailed example? JMarc
Re: patching problem ...
Dieter == Ing Dieter Jurzitza [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dieter Dear Listmembers, hi Dekel, two things to say: 1.) WYSIWYM - I Dieter mean sans but I see roman - this is something I cannot Dieter understand. I think it would be nice to have a chance to say Dieter I want this text to be in sans and it does AND it shows. Dieter Just something like a global selection. I can stay with LaTeX Dieter - there I have to know what I mean, there I say Dieter \renewcommand{}{}. Just a suggestion. Another solution is to define your own textclass which uses sans serif by default. This is the cleanest solution (since choice of overall font is a class-wide decision). Then you can change the default font to be sans serif on dosplay too (like what happens for foils). Dieter 2.) If a second patch is Dieter intended without the first being applied that is really Dieter strange to me - some 7 years of linux experience say no, this Dieter cannot happen. Moreover, the directory name for fix2 should Dieter be fix1 - look into the patch. This must be something Dieter different. Take care, You are indeed supposed to apply the fix2 patch on top of the fix1 one. There is however a bug in our distribution process which adds these CVS/* files whereas it should not. However, I believe that the patch applies cleanly to a 1.1.6fix1 distribution (this is how I created it). It may be that it does not apply cleanly to a patched 1.1.6 distribution. This is harmless anyway. JMarc
Re: Please upgrade libtool in lyx
Adrian == Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adrian Hi, please upgrade libttol in lyx. All versions prior to 1.4 Adrian cause miscompilations under NetBSD/sparc-1.5. Lars, could you do this? Or, if it is easy enough, I can do it (and probably for 1.1.6 too). JMarc
Re: Bolzano, here I come
On 29 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Juergen == Juergen Vigna [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Juergen On 29-May-2001 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: And I guess it is not possible to get the ticket in advance? Not from france, it seems... From what it's worth: I got my train ticket from Milan to Bolzano in advance here in Denmark. Greets, Asger
Re: Bolzano, here I come
Asger == Asger K Alstrup Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what it's worth: I got my train ticket from Milan to Bolzano Asger in advance here in Denmark. I'll have to check this with a human being. The web site just says no. JMarc
Re: Use of URL package
Reuben == Reuben Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Reuben Is there any way around it? I'm thinking of LyX being able to Reuben detect the use of such commands, or at least providing Reuben check-box inclusion of common (supported) packages, rather Reuben than having to edit the preamble. It's not inconceivable that Reuben this mechanism might be useful to turn off auto-inclusion Reuben under some circumstances. Yes, we need some kind of general package/feature management scheme. However, nobody stepped up to write it :( JMarc
Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jules Bean) writes: On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 03:21:34PM +0200, Paul Seelig wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chanop Silpa-Anan) writes: BTW, do you know whether the real maintainer will release lyx 1.1.6fix2 anytime soon? I emailed hime once and got no reply. I don't know. If he could be maintaining the LyX Debian package more frequently i wouldn't bother compiling it on my own. I guess he has a good reason for not regularily updating the Debian package. Maybe he cares mostly about stable releases (which is a very good reason IMHO)? I don't have as much time for maintaining LyX as I'd like, but the decision not to upload 1.1.6fix1 was deliberate, and, I think, discussed on this list. 1.1.6fix2 hasn't been out for that long... I have packaged it, and I will upload it shortly if there are no problems with it. Yes, i too wish the day had 48 hours instead of just 24 (in my case to get more sleep ;). Anyway, i'm actually really glad you are maintaining Debian's LyX package at all! Maintaining a package for Debian usually is *quite* a bit more than just hacking together an installation binary and then forget about it... Thank you, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] - African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany --- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de
Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug
On 29 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Jules == Jules Bean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jules It's a relief someone agrees with me! Jules Yes, M-p asterisk num would seem like a sensible set of Jules bindings to me.. Would you have time to review the bindings and propose an update? [...] Are there other people who would object to such a change of bindings? We could also decide to keep the old ones for backward compatibility... I'm not criticizing the decision to change these bindings - improving the UI is always good, but having just seen another message about needing to update the docs about --export, I need to vent. The default user interface has to stop changing before the Doc Team can update everything. Don't stop changing it yet, but expect there to be problems until 1.2.0pre is declared ready, and everyone agrees the interface will be stable long enough for us to document it, then things will get cleaned up. In fact, we are discussing rearranging the docs to improve the layout, so small changes like this are really going to take a while before they appear in a distribution. Perhaps it's time for an Errata page on the Web. Anyone with Web CVS access willing to lead the charge? Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Re: Latest CVS: insert-float-wide table
Kayvan == Kayvan A Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kayvan mini-bug report, insert-float-wide table does nothing. On Kayvan the console, I see: Kayvan Non-existant float type: wide-tab Lars, do you plan to support those? How? JMarc
Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug
Mike == [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike I'm not criticizing the decision to change these bindings - Mike improving the UI is always good, but having just seen another Mike message about needing to update the docs about --export, I need Mike to vent. In the second case, it is rather that a constraint on --export (the presence of an X server) has been removed. Not really a change of UI. Mike The default user interface has to stop changing before the Doc Mike Team can update everything. Don't stop changing it yet, but Mike expect there to be problems until 1.2.0pre is declared ready, Mike and everyone agrees the interface will be stable long enough for Mike us to document it, then things will get cleaned up. How long do you need? Note that it will be possible to continue updateing the docs in 1.2.x, x0 Mike In fact, we are discussing rearranging the docs to improve the Mike layout, so small changes like this are really going to take a Mike while before they appear in a distribution. I understand that. JMarc
Re: Please upgrade libtool in lyx
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Adrian == Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Adrian Hi, please upgrade libttol in lyx. All versions prior to 1.4 | Adrian cause miscompilations under NetBSD/sparc-1.5. | | Lars, could you do this? Or, if it is easy enough, I can do it (and | probably for 1.1.6 too). I'll do it. -- Lgb
Re: Latest CVS: insert-float-wide table
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | Kayvan == Kayvan A Sylvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | | Kayvan mini-bug report, insert-float-wide table does nothing. On | Kayvan the console, I see: | | Kayvan Non-existant float type: wide-tab | | Lars, do you plan to support those? How? mmm yes... some ten lines of code missing I guess... -- Lgb
LyX Developers Guide
Hello, I have a student working for a few weeks on a small project whose goal is to interface LyX with the computer algebra system MuPAD. Well, actually this is the second time I propose this project. Last summer two other students of mines worked on it. Basically, it could take a lyx text paragraph, send it to MuPAD, get back the result as a piece of LaTeX, and integrate it as an equation in the LyX document. However it was too buggy and experimental to propose it for integration into LyX. I hope to get a little bit further this time! It would be useful for my new student to have access to the developers guide. It seems the link from http://www.devel.lyx.org/references.php3 to http://www.devel.lyx.org/devel/devguide.html seems to be broken. Thanks in advance! Have a nice day, Nicolas -- Nicolas M. Thiéry Isil [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mines.edu/~nthiery/ LAPCS, Bât. mathématiques, Université Claude Bernard Lyon I, 43 bd du 11 novembre, 69622 Villeurbanne Cedex, FRANCE tel: 04 72 43 19 01 fax: 04 72 43 10 54 PGP signature
Re: LyX Developers Guide
I have a student working for a few weeks on a small project whose goal is to interface LyX with the computer algebra system MuPAD. Well, actually this is the second time I propose this project. Last summer two other students of mines worked on it. There is now a lyx function 'math-extern' that pipes the contents of a math inset through an external script and tries to read back the output. This is highly experimental code, though. How do you solve the problem of extracting sematical structure from formulas stored for display purposes? I.e. how do you parse \int xy dx as int(x*y, x) ? Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde bindingbug
On 29 May 2001, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Mike The default user interface has to stop changing before the Doc Mike Team can update everything. Don't stop changing it yet, but Mike expect there to be problems until 1.2.0pre is declared ready, Mike and everyone agrees the interface will be stable long enough for Mike us to document it, then things will get cleaned up. How long do you need? Note that it will be possible to continue updateing the docs in 1.2.x, x0 Amount of time isn't as big an issue as not knowing when the interface will settle down, and I really don't want to redocument it six times - none of us has the time to do that. I'm hoping that 1.2.0pre0 will freeze the basic interface/keybindings/commandline for at least a few versions; if so, then I would like to have the docs _completely_ updated and correct for 1.2.0 proper. The primary reason the docs are currently lagging is simply that many things have changed since 1.1.5 and are continuing to change, as indicated by the spate of messages over the last couple of days. The UI changes from 1.0.0 through 1.1.5 are actually quite small compared to 1.1.5 - current CVS. (LyX's guts changed considerably over that time, but the UI didn't). Of course, new features added after 1.2.0 will require new documentation, but I'd like existing features, like the change to math arrays, to be settled before we sharpen our pencils. (can you sharpen a keyboard ? :-) ) Sorry to be a pain in the posterior hinterregions about this, but the recent UI changes have been rather dizzying. Complicating things for me personally are the fact that I can't use 1.1.6fixX at work due to the incomplete table support, so I haven't gotten used to that yet, and CVS is also changing too fast for me to grab a stable copy and try to do some real work with it (can a useful snapshot be made occasionally?). We're just in an exciting, rapidly changing phase, and the docs are going to lag as a result - we can't document a feature before it's finished! This brought up the idea of an Errata section on the Web. At least we can collect the current inconsistencies and make them known there, so the Users don't get totally frustrated with the current situation. Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
Pre-release 'offical' debs (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2)
At http://people.debian.org/~jules/ is the lyx 1.1.6fix2 deb which I will upload to woody unless people find serious problems with it. If you have a system with up-to-date enough libraries, please test it for me. I.e: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-1), libforms0.89, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, xlibs ( 4.0.3) On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +1000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: Hi, It's good that you put together the deb. However, I still experienced the slowness when lyx calls latex from this deb. Do you have this problem on your box with this deb? The only way I can get lyx to run properly (both 1.1.6fix2 and 1.2.0cvs) is to use gcc-3.0. My locally compiled lyx-1.1.6fix2 (with gcc-3.0) works pretty well. You might consider recompile lyx with gcc-3.0 to work around the slownes instead of exporting to latex and compile by hand. I don't see this problem locally at all. I'm using gcc 2.95.2-14 and libstdc++ 2.95.3-6. Jules
Re: Why docs don't get updated very often Re: asciitilde binding bug
I'm hoping that 1.2.0pre0 will freeze the basic interface/keybindings/commandline for at least a few versions; Don't trust math key bindings yet... Andre' -- André Pönitz . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fcode()
On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 01:51:16PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: Could anyone please check if there are any user visible changes if short MathedIter::fcode() const { return fcode_; } is replaced by short MathedIter::fcode() const { return -1; } in mathed/math_iter.C With or without mathed78.diff ?
Re: Pre-release 'offical' debs (was Re: [ANNOUNCE] LyX 1.1.6fix2)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jules Bean) writes: At http://people.debian.org/~jules/ is the lyx 1.1.6fix2 deb which I will upload to woody unless people find serious problems with it. [ ... ] Currently downloading and installing it... Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.3-1), libforms0.89, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, xlibs ( 4.0.3) I thought libforms0.89 was deprecated for compilation by the LyX developers? On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:21:34PM +1000, Chanop Silpa-Anan wrote: [ about unofficial LyX .deb slowness ] I don't see this problem locally at all. I'm using gcc 2.95.2-14 and libstdc++ 2.95.3-6. The Depends for my .deb differ only in regard to the libforms version. I've used libforms0.88 whereas you've used libforms0.89. Maybe we can find the culprit here? Yes, with your version i don't experience any delays either. So this looks more like a libforms problem. Cheers, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] - African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany --- http://ntama.uni-mainz.de
Attempting (and failing) to compile natbib branch
In spite of my whining, I thought I'd sneak in an attempt to compile Angus' natbib branch, since he went to the effort to merge it with the latest main CVS branch. I cruise along okay until I get smacked with the following: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src -I./../ -I../.. -I../.. -I../../boost -isystem /usr/X11R6/include -O2 -W -Wall -Wp,-MD,.deps/insetcollapsable.pp -c insetcollapsable.C -o insetcollapsable.o In file included from ../../src/Lsstream.h:20, from ../../src/support/lstrings.h:22, from insetcollapsable.C:24: /usr/include/g++-3/sstream: In method `int stringbuf::sync ()': /usr/include/g++-3/sstream:171: warning: comparison between signed and unsigned integer expressions insetcollapsable.C: In method `void InsetCollapsable::SetFont (BufferView *, const LyXFont , bool, bool)': insetcollapsable.C:448: no matching function for call to `InsetText::SetFont (BufferView *, const LyXFont , bool , bool )' insettext.h:155: candidates are: void InsetText::SetFont (BufferView *, const LyXFont , bool = false) make[3]: *** [insetcollapsable.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/mressler/LyX/NATBIB/lyx-devel/src/insets' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/mressler/LyX/NATBIB/lyx-devel/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/mressler/LyX/NATBIB/lyx-devel/src' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 It's a Mandrake 8.0 OS with gcc-2.96. Let me know if I'm doing something idiotic ... Mike -- Mike Ressler [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, I'm lame: I don't have my own website ...
serbian.kmap
Hi! I made a standard serbian (latin) keymap for LyX. To whom should I send it, so it gets included in the distribution? Also, I have a question: is it possible to make the keymap in such way that some keys that are usually not capslock-sensitive become capslock-sensitive ("[", "]", "\" for example)? Thanks in advance, Vladimir Vrzic Belgrade, Yugoslavia
Re: GIFs
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Allan Rae wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2001, John Levon wrote: Is it OK for me to convert all the GIFs on lyx.org to PNGs ? I doubt anyone runs a browser these days that can't handle PNG (well except transparent PNGs). png or jpg should be okay. But we don't use gif89 (?the copyright problem one?) so what are going to save? if lucky a couple of hundred bytes. oh OK I see. And Alternate LyX sites should IMHO just say Mirrors, and the other net things should be elsewhere. We should have obvious clear sections for the most common things in the sidebar. Trouble is Mirrors aren't just mirrors. They really are alternate LyX sites. My (out-of-date) LyX pages aren't a mirror for example. hence the phrase other net things should be elsewhere. The majority of people coming to the site won't want to look at your pages, they want to download a tarball and try it out. So we should have quick fixes as a priority. I've seen a couple of sites lately that I'd like to steal some ideas from. These two have a nice feel about them: http://www.windowmaker.org http://movingparts.thelinuxcommunity.org/bbkeys.shtml I agree ;) Anyway, we also need to go for a proper HTML-4.01 site rather than the transitional hodge-podge we have now. We also need someone who can draw or at least is artistic enough to composite (?) suitable artwork. definitely not me then :)) thanks john -- True communication is possible only between equals, because inferiors are more consistently rewarded for telling their superiors pleasant lies than for telling the truth.