Re: r33302 - lyx-devel/trunk/src

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Would the attached patch make sense to both of you?

I had worked to a smaller patch concerning only regexp, in which I had 
introduced a REGEXP_CODE, and was using such code in insetAllowed(), and 
I could see regexp insets inside ERTs and URLs. Probably I can rebase 
that on your patch, which seems to address also the other LFUN handling 
issues pointed out by vfr.


   T.

Edit buffer in external editor

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-02-04, Pavel Sanda wrote:



Thanks a lot Pavel,

  vc-command DR $$p my-editor $$i

(with - instead of _ in the command name) works like a charm.
This solves a long-standing issue for me.

Binding this with the ToolsSettingsKeybindings dialogue failed, however:
after saving, the command is truncated to

  vc-command DR $$p

Looking in the generated user.bind file, I found that the whole command
is put into quotes. Trying again with escaped quotes:

  vc-command DR $$p \my-editor $$i\

solved this issue. (Should the keydindings dialogue insert the quotes
automatically?)
  
I bound the function to F4.  Is there a preferred/usual keybinding for
external edit in CUA-aware applications?

Günter

Re: r33318 - lyx-devel/trunk/src

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Tommaso Cucinotta tommaso.cucino...@sssup.it writes:
  

However, I have to go through all the code, especially with
ignore-format off, because I noticed some misbehaviour (probably some
white-spaces more/less in the textual exports of insets -- w.r.t. a
few months ago).


You mean that your code is sensitive to every change we make to latex
export? Yikes!
  
Basically, in the current implementation I saved adding a method (and 
code) to each and every inset, for implementing the search, but all I 
rely upon is the text-only and latex exports, which were already present 
in LyX. Also, regular expressions search is implemented recurring to 
widely available libraries which operate on strings.
My plan would be to see a first release with the functionality out, that 
would provide good feedback on interface, missing features, etc...

Then, rework the implementation.

   T.

Re: [patch] bug 6503: Including self as child document crashes branch

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Vincent van Ravesteijn v.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl writes:
 The smart is to check for this before starting a master-child relation.

Or to admit that we cannot guard against such relations and make the
inset a dummy inset in this case. Unfortunately, the number of explicit
uses of INCLUDE_CODE in the code make such encapsulation more difficult.

JMarc

Re: How I can add a new button to the tool bar?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Edwin Leuven edwin.leu...@ensae.fr writes:

 ps. and what would be a better occasion to change the icons than a 2.0
 release?!

You stole my words ! Stop that.

JMarc

Wishlist items - document templates

[Helge Hafting]

File-New from Template currently shows only templates in 
/usr/share/lyx/templates.


The dialog ought to have a couple of shortcut buttons: system 
templates and private templates that goes directly to these two 
directories.


The reason is to have easy access to both the templates that comes with
lyx, as well as self-made templates. Navigating the filesystem from one 
place to another is too cumbersome. I guess some users don't even know 
about the private template directory. :-/


Putting all templates in a single directory is not a solution either:

* /usr/share/lyx/templates is normally not writeable for users, and
  it should not be either. But this makes it hard to add templates
  there. Especially for someone who isn't also a sysadmin.
* Copying the system templates is not a good solution either. Several
  users doing that wastes space, and you never know when some system
  upgrade adds/changes the official templates.

There is already a button that goes to the distributed templates,
having one that goes to the private templates would be very helpful.

Also, having a save as template menu would be nice. It would bring up 
the save as dialog, showing the user template directory by default.


Saving as a template should automatically remove stuff not wanted in a 
template, i.e. the \fontscheme and \papersize mentioned in section 5.4 
in the customization manual. (Those who want a template with a 
particular papersize can of course save a ordinary document instead.)


Helge Hafting

\middle

[Barak Sh]

Dear developers,

First of all, thank you for a wonderful piece of software! I have been using
LyX for almost two years now, while studying math  physics at the
university, and I don't know what I would have done without it.

I have a request which I think would benefit many people. When writing
certain mathematical expressions, such as definitions of sets:
   \left\{ \frac{x}{y}\middle|x\in A,y\in B\right\}
or inner products in physics:
   \left\langle \varphi\middle|\frac{1}{2}\psi\right\rangle
it is necessary to use \middle so that the middle vertical bar will be of
appropriate size (the same as the brackets). Even though the code is
supported by all LaTeX implementations, and is displayed correctly upon
compiling, LyX does not know how to render it.
Would it be possible to make LyX understand the \middle code and display the
vertical bar correctly?

Thank you,
Barak

po-files: Geman (old spelling)

[Kornel Benko]

Hi,
this string is (in branch and trunk) used ( in Preferences-Language 
Settings-Language-User interface language: ),
but is not part of po-files, thus will not be translated in the GUI.

Kornel


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\\middle

[Uwe Stöhr]

 it is necessary to use \middle so that the middle vertical bar will be
 of appropriate size
 Would it be possible to make LyX understand the \middle code and
 display the vertical bar correctly?

This can be implemented, see
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/1632

eTeX is now actually part of every LaTeX distribution, so we can indeed 
start implement \middle.


regards Uwe

Re: po-files: Geman (old spelling)

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Kornel Benko schreef:

Hi,
this string is (in branch and trunk) used ( in Preferences-Language 
Settings-Language-User interface language: ),
but is not part of po-files, thus will not be translated in the GUI.

Kornel
  

Then you have to do a remerge.

Vincent

Re: How I can add a new button to the tool bar?

[Olivier Ripoll]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

durocortorum73-gm...@yahoo.fr schrieb:


[...]
As I said, at present, my main issue for distribution is the mixing of 
several licenses. I do not know under which license the whole may be 
distributed. I have done a significant work (in terms of hours) to 
shrink 22 and 24 pixels icons to fit in 20, while preserving the 
aspect, and sometimes I did some pixel work (pdf, ps, dvi words, 
outline icons, footnote  margin note icons). I have no issue in 
putting my contribution under any license that would be compatible 
with the original ones.


LyX in general only accepts the GPL version 2 or later (and Creative 
commons (needs to be discussed first on the lyx-devel list)).


A little text file explains the history of most icons. I tried to use 
Tango icons mainly, they are public domain. The part I took from gimp 
can be easily redone (and will be for consistency I think). I also 
provide some xcf files for icons that have common parts.


Your work is impressive but perhaps too much. The current LyX icons are 
known by the users and thus shouldn't be changed if possible.
I see the problem you mentioned that icons with 24x24 pixels look 
blurred and I think we should only fix these icons and make them 20x20 
icons.


Your icons are nevertheless very nice and we should have a discussion 
about them. I therefore propose to upload them to our Wiki:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Icons


I'd prefer not to have this distributed officially as long as I do not 
understand the potential issues with licenses incompatibilities. For 
example, I still haven't been able to identify the license of openoffice 
Tango icons. They may be CC attribution share-alike.


Also, can icons based on public domain work (Tango) be licensed under 
GPL ? I guess so.



I'm forwarding this to the lyx-devel list.

regards Uwe


Best regards,

Olivier

Re: po-files: Geman (old spelling)

[Kornel Benko]

Am Donnerstag 04 Februar 2010 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:
 Kornel Benko schreef:
  Hi,
  this string is (in branch and trunk) used ( in Preferences-Language
  Settings-Language-User interface language: ), but is not part of
  po-files, thus will not be translated in the GUI.
 
  Kornel
 
 Then you have to do a remerge.

I fear, this is only half of the work. Jürgen is often remerging, but this 
string is still lost.

It is found in lib/languages. And the python script for extracting is 
po/Rules-lyx, but it looks like it were not corectly extracting.

Error: Unable to handle line:
german  german  German (old spelling) false  iso8859-15 
de-alt 


Changing de-alt into de_alt makes it work though.


 Vincent
 

Kornel


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Re: about the libintl version in the LyX windows installer

[Joost Verburg]

On 2/3/2010 7:34 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

I also found other Windows sources of gettext 0.17 for Windows and could
compile the intl.dll from the sources. The problem is that my compiled
intl.dll won't link with your LyX Windows package and all my attempts to
change the source code to make it link failed. Can you therefore please
have a look if you are able to use gettext 0.17 for you LyX Windows bundle?


Are you sure you actually have gettext code that is compatible with 
MSVC? I remember gettext 0.15 still included MSVC support code (it was 
somewhat broken, but I was able to fix it). AFAIK after gettext 0.15 
MSVC support was removed so that's why we're still using gettext 0.15. 
Later versions won't export any functions in the MSVC DLL and therefore 
won't link.


It should definitely be possible to use the gettext 0.15 MSVC support 
code and update that to 0.17. However, I'm afraid I won't have time for 
this. If you want to give it a try, a diff between the official gettext 
0.15 and my modified gettext 0.15 on the LyX FTP should show what I 
fixed in 0.15. And you can diff 0.15 and 0.16 to see what MSVC support 
code was removed.


Best regards,

Joost

Re: How I can add a new button to the tool bar?

[Pavel Sanda]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
  ps. and what would be a better occasion to change the icons than a 2.0
  release?!
 
 You stole my words ! Stop that.

and change menu structure of course :)
pavel

Re: Edit buffer in external editor

[Pavel Sanda]

Guenter Milde wrote:
 Looking in the generated user.bind file, I found that the whole command
 is put into quotes. Trying again with escaped quotes:
 
   vc-command DR $$p \my-editor $$i\
 
 solved this issue. (Should the keydindings dialogue insert the quotes
 automatically?)

dunno, please put this into bugzilla.

pavel

Re: #6498: Regex looks like math.

[Pavel Sanda]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
 Is it ok to add a ColorCode for a regexp frame like this ?

looks fine

 (what are all these strings ?)

//  ColorCode, gui, latex, x11, lyx

 Index: src/Color.cpp
 ===
 --- src/Color.cpp(revisione 33318)
 +++ src/Color.cpp(copia locale)
 @@ -241,6 +241,7 @@
 { Color_buttonhoverbg, N_(button background under focus), 
 buttonhoverbg, #C7C7CA, buttonhoverbg },
 { Color_paragraphmarker, N_(paragraph marker), paragraphmarker, 
 grey80, paragraphmarker},
 { Color_inherit, N_(inherit), inherit, black, inherit },
 +{ Color_regexpframe, N_(regexp frame), regexpframe, Green, 
 regexpframe },

green ?

pavel

offtopic blog

[Pavel Sanda]

Abdel, you're gonna be famous :)

http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010020500435OSSW

Re: r33302 - lyx-devel/trunk/src

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Would the attached patch make sense to both of you?

I had worked to a smaller patch concerning only regexp, in which I had 
introduced a REGEXP_CODE, and was using such code in insetAllowed(), and 
I could see regexp insets inside ERTs and URLs. Probably I can rebase 
that on your patch, which seems to address also the other LFUN handling 
issues pointed out by vfr.


   T.

Edit buffer in external editor

[Guenter Milde]

On 2010-02-04, Pavel Sanda wrote:



Thanks a lot Pavel,

  vc-command DR $$p "my-editor $$i"

(with - instead of _ in the command name) works like a charm.
This solves a long-standing issue for me.

Binding this with the Tools>Settings>Keybindings dialogue failed, however:
after saving, the command is truncated to

  vc-command DR $$p

Looking in the generated user.bind file, I found that the whole command
is put into quotes. Trying again with escaped quotes:

  vc-command DR $$p \"my-editor $$i\"

solved this issue. (Should the keydindings dialogue insert the quotes
automatically?)
  
I bound the function to F4.  Is there a preferred/usual keybinding for
"external edit" in CUA-aware applications?

Günter

Re: r33318 - lyx-devel/trunk/src

[Tommaso Cucinotta]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:

Tommaso Cucinotta  writes:
  

However, I have to go through all the code, especially with
ignore-format off, because I noticed some misbehaviour (probably some
white-spaces more/less in the textual exports of insets -- w.r.t. a
few months ago).


You mean that your code is sensitive to every change we make to latex
export? Yikes!
  
Basically, in the current implementation I saved adding a method (and 
code) to each and every inset, for implementing the search, but all I 
rely upon is the text-only and latex exports, which were already present 
in LyX. Also, regular expressions search is implemented recurring to 
widely available libraries which operate on strings.
My plan would be to see a first release with the functionality out, that 
would provide good feedback on interface, missing features, etc...

Then, rework the implementation.

   T.

Re: [patch] bug 6503: Including self as child document crashes branch

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Vincent van Ravesteijn  writes:
> The "smart" is to check for this before starting a master-child relation.

Or to admit that we cannot guard against such relations and make the
inset a dummy inset in this case. Unfortunately, the number of explicit
uses of INCLUDE_CODE in the code make such encapsulation more difficult.

JMarc

Re: How I can add a new button to the tool bar?

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Edwin Leuven  writes:

> ps. and what would be a better occasion to change the icons than a 2.0
> release?!

You stole my words ! Stop that.

JMarc

Wishlist items - document templates

[Helge Hafting]

"File->New from Template" currently shows only templates in 
/usr/share/lyx/templates.


The dialog ought to have a couple of shortcut buttons: "system 
templates" and "private templates" that goes directly to these two 
directories.


The reason is to have easy access to both the templates that comes with
lyx, as well as self-made templates. Navigating the filesystem from one 
place to another is too cumbersome. I guess some users don't even know 
about the private template directory. :-/


Putting all templates in a single directory is not a solution either:

* /usr/share/lyx/templates is normally not writeable for users, and
  it should not be either. But this makes it hard to add templates
  there. Especially for someone who isn't also a sysadmin.
* Copying the system templates is not a good solution either. Several
  users doing that wastes space, and you never know when some system
  upgrade adds/changes the official templates.

There is already a button that goes to the distributed templates,
having one that goes to the private templates would be very helpful.

Also, having a "save as template" menu would be nice. It would bring up 
the "save as" dialog, showing the user template directory by default.


Saving as a template should automatically remove stuff not wanted in a 
template, i.e. the \fontscheme and \papersize mentioned in section 5.4 
in the customization manual. (Those who want a template with a 
particular papersize can of course save a ordinary document instead.)


Helge Hafting

\middle

[Barak Sh]

Dear developers,

First of all, thank you for a wonderful piece of software! I have been using
LyX for almost two years now, while studying math & physics at the
university, and I don't know what I would have done without it.

I have a request which I think would benefit many people. When writing
certain mathematical expressions, such as definitions of sets:
   \left\{ \frac{x}{y}\middle|x\in A,y\in B\right\}
or inner products in physics:
   \left\langle \varphi\middle|\frac{1}{2}\psi\right\rangle
it is necessary to use \middle so that the middle vertical bar will be of
appropriate size (the same as the brackets). Even though the code is
supported by all LaTeX implementations, and is displayed correctly upon
compiling, LyX does not know how to render it.
Would it be possible to make LyX understand the \middle code and display the
vertical bar correctly?

Thank you,
Barak

po-files: "Geman (old spelling)"

[Kornel Benko]

Hi,
this string is (in branch and trunk) used ( in Preferences->Language 
Settings->Language->User interface language: ),
but is not part of po-files, thus will not be translated in the GUI.

Kornel


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\\middle

[Uwe Stöhr]

> it is necessary to use \middle so that the middle vertical bar will be
> of appropriate size
> Would it be possible to make LyX understand the \middle code and
> display the vertical bar correctly?

This can be implemented, see
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/1632

eTeX is now actually part of every LaTeX distribution, so we can indeed 
start implement \middle.


regards Uwe

Re: po-files: "Geman (old spelling)"

[Vincent van Ravesteijn]

Kornel Benko schreef:

Hi,
this string is (in branch and trunk) used ( in Preferences->Language 
Settings->Language->User interface language: ),
but is not part of po-files, thus will not be translated in the GUI.

Kornel
  

Then you have to do a remerge.

Vincent

Re: How I can add a new button to the tool bar?

[Olivier Ripoll]

Uwe Stöhr wrote:

durocortorum73-gm...@yahoo.fr schrieb:


[...]
As I said, at present, my main issue for distribution is the mixing of 
several licenses. I do not know under which license the whole may be 
distributed. I have done a significant work (in terms of hours) to 
shrink 22 and 24 pixels icons to fit in 20, while preserving the 
aspect, and sometimes I did some pixel work ("pdf", "ps", "dvi" words, 
outline icons, footnote & margin note icons). I have no issue in 
putting my contribution under any license that would be compatible 
with the original ones.


LyX in general only accepts the GPL version 2 or later (and Creative 
commons (needs to be discussed first on the lyx-devel list)).


A little text file explains the history of most icons. I tried to use 
Tango icons mainly, they are public domain. The part I took from gimp 
can be easily redone (and will be for consistency I think). I also 
provide some xcf files for icons that have common parts.


Your work is impressive but perhaps too much. The current LyX icons are 
known by the users and thus shouldn't be changed if possible.
I see the problem you mentioned that icons with 24x24 pixels look 
blurred and I think we should only fix these icons and make them 20x20 
icons.


Your icons are nevertheless very nice and we should have a discussion 
about them. I therefore propose to upload them to our Wiki:

http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Icons


I'd prefer not to have this distributed officially as long as I do not 
understand the potential issues with licenses incompatibilities. For 
example, I still haven't been able to identify the license of openoffice 
Tango icons. They may be CC attribution share-alike.


Also, can icons based on public domain work (Tango) be licensed under 
GPL ? I guess so.



I'm forwarding this to the lyx-devel list.

regards Uwe


Best regards,

Olivier

Re: po-files: "Geman (old spelling)"

[Kornel Benko]

Am Donnerstag 04 Februar 2010 schrieb Vincent van Ravesteijn:
> Kornel Benko schreef:
> > Hi,
> > this string is (in branch and trunk) used ( in Preferences->Language
> > Settings->Language->User interface language: ), but is not part of
> > po-files, thus will not be translated in the GUI.
> >
> > Kornel
> 
> Then you have to do a remerge.

I fear, this is only half of the work. Jürgen is often remerging, but this 
string is still lost.

It is found in lib/languages. And the python script for extracting is 
po/Rules-lyx, but it looks like it were not corectly extracting.

Error: Unable to handle line:
german  german  "German (old spelling)" false  iso8859-15 
de-alt ""


Changing de-alt into de_alt makes it work though.


> Vincent
> 

Kornel


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Re: about the libintl version in the LyX windows installer

[Joost Verburg]

On 2/3/2010 7:34 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

I also found other Windows sources of gettext 0.17 for Windows and could
compile the intl.dll from the sources. The problem is that my compiled
intl.dll won't link with your LyX Windows package and all my attempts to
change the source code to make it link failed. Can you therefore please
have a look if you are able to use gettext 0.17 for you LyX Windows bundle?


Are you sure you actually have gettext code that is compatible with 
MSVC? I remember gettext 0.15 still included MSVC support code (it was 
somewhat broken, but I was able to fix it). AFAIK after gettext 0.15 
MSVC support was removed so that's why we're still using gettext 0.15. 
Later versions won't export any functions in the MSVC DLL and therefore 
won't link.


It should definitely be possible to use the gettext 0.15 MSVC support 
code and update that to 0.17. However, I'm afraid I won't have time for 
this. If you want to give it a try, a diff between the official gettext 
0.15 and my modified gettext 0.15 on the LyX FTP should show what I 
fixed in 0.15. And you can diff 0.15 and 0.16 to see what MSVC support 
code was removed.


Best regards,

Joost

Re: How I can add a new button to the tool bar?

[Pavel Sanda]

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > ps. and what would be a better occasion to change the icons than a 2.0
> > release?!
> 
> You stole my words ! Stop that.

and change menu structure of course :)
pavel

Re: Edit buffer in external editor

[Pavel Sanda]

Guenter Milde wrote:
> Looking in the generated user.bind file, I found that the whole command
> is put into quotes. Trying again with escaped quotes:
> 
>   vc-command DR $$p \"my-editor $$i\"
> 
> solved this issue. (Should the keydindings dialogue insert the quotes
> automatically?)

dunno, please put this into bugzilla.

pavel

Re: #6498: Regex looks like math.

[Pavel Sanda]

Tommaso Cucinotta wrote:
> Is it ok to add a ColorCode for a regexp frame like this ?

looks fine

> (what are all these strings ?)

//  ColorCode, gui, latex, x11, lyx

> Index: src/Color.cpp
> ===
> --- src/Color.cpp(revisione 33318)
> +++ src/Color.cpp(copia locale)
> @@ -241,6 +241,7 @@
> { Color_buttonhoverbg, N_("button background under focus"), 
> "buttonhoverbg", "#C7C7CA", "buttonhoverbg" },
> { Color_paragraphmarker, N_("paragraph marker"), "paragraphmarker", 
> grey80, "paragraphmarker"},
> { Color_inherit, N_("inherit"), "inherit", "black", "inherit" },
> +{ Color_regexpframe, N_("regexp frame"), "regexpframe", "Green", 
> "regexpframe" },

"green" ?

pavel

offtopic blog

[Pavel Sanda]

Abdel, you're gonna be famous :)

http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2010020500435OSSW