Re: r33009 - in lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X: development/Win32/packaging/AltInstaller lib/doc lib/doc/de lib/doc/es lib/doc/fr
On 01/12/2010 07:51 PM, uwesto...@lyx.org wrote: Author: uwestoehr Date: Wed Jan 13 01:51:35 2010 New Revision: 33009 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/33009 Log: Tutorial.lyx: accept Richard's changes I added the stuff about unknown layout classes in response to yet more bug reports about import failures. I wonder if there is somewhere else we should also mention this, say, in the User's Guide. I guess I worry that many people may not read the Tutorial, especially if they are reasonably comfortable with LaTeX already. Another possibility would be to give more verbose error messages from tex2lyx, and perhaps in the GUI, error messages that would direct the user to the relevant part of the manuals. rh
Re: r33009 - in lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X: development/Win32/packaging/AltInstaller lib/doc lib/doc/de lib/doc/es lib/doc/fr
Am 13.01.2010 01:54, schrieb rgheck: Tutorial.lyx: accept Richard's changes I added the stuff about unknown layout classes in response to yet more bug reports about import failures. I wonder if there is somewhere else we should also mention this, say, in the User's Guide. I guess I worry that many people may not read the Tutorial, especially if they are reasonably comfortable with LaTeX already. Yes that's why I removed the further special information about layout files. If a user has problems, we refer now to the customization manual and there everything is described in detailed. The tutorial is a file for newbies and thus should only contain the basics. Another possibility would be to give more verbose error messages from tex2lyx, and perhaps in the GUI, error messages that would direct the user to the relevant part of the manuals. This can be done, however users with LaTeX classes we don't have a layout file are usually LaTeX experts. By reading the relevant sections of the tex2lyx manpage and the references Customization manual it should in my opinion become clear how to handle layout files. regards Uwe
Re: r33009 - in lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X: development/Win32/packaging/AltInstaller lib/doc lib/doc/de lib/doc/es lib/doc/fr
On 2010-01-13, Uwe Stöhr wrote: Am 13.01.2010 01:54, schrieb rgheck: The tutorial is a file for newbies and thus should only contain the basics. Another possibility would be to give more verbose error messages from tex2lyx, and perhaps in the GUI, error messages that would direct the user to the relevant part of the manuals. This can be done, however users with LaTeX classes we don't have a layout file are usually LaTeX experts. Not always. It could also be students given a university documentclass, first-time authors or converts trying to run a publisher's LaTeX template. By reading the relevant sections of the tex2lyx manpage and the references Customization manual it should in my opinion become clear how to handle layout files. However, pointing out the distinction between a LateX documentclass/-style and a LyX layout file and pointing to the relevant parts of the documentation will help them and, by reduced faqs, us. Günter
Re: r33009 - in lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X: development/Win32/packaging/AltInstaller lib/doc lib/doc/de lib/doc/es lib/doc/fr
On 01/12/2010 07:51 PM, uwesto...@lyx.org wrote: Author: uwestoehr Date: Wed Jan 13 01:51:35 2010 New Revision: 33009 URL: http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/33009 Log: Tutorial.lyx: accept Richard's changes I added the stuff about unknown layout classes in response to yet more "bug reports" about import failures. I wonder if there is somewhere else we should also mention this, say, in the User's Guide. I guess I worry that many people may not read the Tutorial, especially if they are reasonably comfortable with LaTeX already. Another possibility would be to give more verbose error messages from tex2lyx, and perhaps in the GUI, error messages that would direct the user to the relevant part of the manuals. rh
Re: r33009 - in lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X: development/Win32/packaging/AltInstaller lib/doc lib/doc/de lib/doc/es lib/doc/fr
Am 13.01.2010 01:54, schrieb rgheck: Tutorial.lyx: accept Richard's changes I added the stuff about unknown layout classes in response to yet more "bug reports" about import failures. I wonder if there is somewhere else we should also mention this, say, in the User's Guide. I guess I worry that many people may not read the Tutorial, especially if they are reasonably comfortable with LaTeX already. Yes that's why I removed the further special information about layout files. If a user has problems, we refer now to the customization manual and there everything is described in detailed. The tutorial is a file for newbies and thus should only contain the basics. Another possibility would be to give more verbose error messages from tex2lyx, and perhaps in the GUI, error messages that would direct the user to the relevant part of the manuals. This can be done, however users with LaTeX classes we don't have a layout file are usually LaTeX experts. By reading the relevant sections of the tex2lyx manpage and the references Customization manual it should in my opinion become clear how to handle layout files. regards Uwe
Re: r33009 - in lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X: development/Win32/packaging/AltInstaller lib/doc lib/doc/de lib/doc/es lib/doc/fr
On 2010-01-13, Uwe Stöhr wrote: > Am 13.01.2010 01:54, schrieb rgheck: > The tutorial is a file for newbies and thus should only contain the basics. >> Another possibility would be to give more verbose error messages from >> tex2lyx, and perhaps in the GUI, error messages that would direct the >> user to the relevant part of the manuals. > This can be done, however users with LaTeX classes we don't have a > layout file are usually LaTeX experts. Not always. It could also be students given a university documentclass, first-time authors or "converts" trying to run a publisher's LaTeX template. > By reading the relevant sections of the tex2lyx manpage and the > references Customization manual it should in my opinion become clear > how to handle layout files. However, pointing out the distinction between a LateX documentclass/-style and a LyX layout file and pointing to the relevant parts of the documentation will help them and, by reduced faqs, us. Günter
