Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Ignacio García
 On 28 Dezember 2007 23:18:39  Bob Lounsbury:
 Hi,

 I was just curious what everyone is using. If you'd like to respond
 that's fine, if not, just ignore the message. Also, could you include
 if you're running the latest LyX 1.5.3. Thanks in advance for anyones'
 input.

 Cheers and Happy New Year!
 Bob Lounsbury

Ubuntu 7.10; LyX-1.5.2 (Fri, Oct 5, 2007,
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.2/lyx-1.5.2-1_dapper_i386.deb)
Waiting for 1.5.3

Cheers
Ignacio


Linebreaks in tabulars?

2007-12-30 Thread bigblop

Is there someway to make linebreaks in a tabular for a single cell?
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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:30:17PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Hi Abdel,

 Ahhh! at last a (good) report about the increased speed in 1.5.3! You're 
 very welcome.

the speed problems are still a very weird problem I can hardly reproduce.
Yesterday it occured again when I started a backport of 1.5.3 for the first
time on a fresh system and today it's gone on the same box.
On my computer at home and my laptop I've been working with full speed and joy
for the last two month.

I've nearly given up on searching for a testcase where it's reproducible now.
Out of curiosity I've taken a look at the bugs filled against LyX in the
Ubuntu launchpad thingy last week and found at least those three describing
the same problem:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/136632
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/129813
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/94706

So I tink that the problem exits to some extend.

Beside that 1.5.3 seems to be solid now. Thanks to you and all the
other people involved. :)

Cheers,
Sven
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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Sven Hoexter wrote:

On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:30:17PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Hi Abdel,

  
Ahhh! at last a (good) report about the increased speed in 1.5.3! You're 
very welcome.



the speed problems are still a very weird problem I can hardly reproduce.
Yesterday it occured again when I started a backport of 1.5.3 for the first
time on a fresh system and today it's gone on the same box.
On my computer at home and my laptop I've been working with full speed and joy
for the last two month.

I've nearly given up on searching for a testcase where it's reproducible now.
Out of curiosity I've taken a look at the bugs filled against LyX in the
Ubuntu launchpad thingy last week and found at least those three describing
the same problem:
  


Hum, why are those people discussing the bugs there instead of our 
bugzilla and/or the mailing lists?



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/136632
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/129813
  
The slowness due to external clipboard has been solved in 1.5.2 IIRC. As 
to the scrolling and redraw problem, I am almost certain that it is an 
issue with X11 and the Window manager. LyX uses a pixmap (QPixmap) for 
the work area drawing and this is handled at the server side under X11; 
if for some reason, the pixmap transfer to screen is delayed, LyX will 
obviously appear to be very slow. I cannot do much without some 
profiling result but I understand at the same time that it's hard to 
profile if the slowness is intermittent. I could send out a patch that 
uses an image instead of a pixmap for drawing; the difference is that an 
image will be processed by the X11 client. This could speedup local 
execution of LyX but will be a problem for LyX over the network.



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/94706
  

Scrolling will be fixed in 1.6.

Abdel.



Problem rendering (QT4) itatlic Computer Modern

2007-12-30 Thread Jia 'Colin' Zheng
I'm using the OpenType version available at:
http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/~panov/cm-unicode/download.html
as my LyX interface fonts.

Please see the screenshot attached.  Italic CM serif is not
properly displayed, but it *does* show up correctly in Opera
(qt4 based) and qtconfig.

My question: Is it a LyX/QT rendering bug, or a (metric) problem
of this particular font?

I use LyX 1.5.3 and 1.60svn.
attachment: screenshot.png

Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo

El vie, 28-12-2007 a las 15:18 -0700, Bob Lounsbury escribió:
 Hi,
 
 I was just curious what everyone is using. If you'd like to respond
 that's fine, if not, just ignore the message. Also, could you include
 if you're running the latest LyX 1.5.3. Thanks in advance for anyones'
 input.
 

Laptop: Ubuntu 7.10, Lyx 1.5.1 at the moment (Ubuntu plus Gentoo just in
a few days, if possible...:-)
Desktop (home): Ubuntu 7.10, Lyx 1.5.1

 Cheers and Happy New Year!
 Bob Lounsbury

Same to you!
Daniel



Re: Linebreaks in tabulars?

2007-12-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

bigblop wrote:

Is there someway to make linebreaks in a tabular for a single cell?


You have to assign a fixed width to the column containing the cell.

/Paul



Dutch LyX

2007-12-30 Thread Tim Vos
Dear LyX users,

I would like to write my reports in dutch, but I don't have a 'patch' that 
makes all LyX inputs dutch (for example: Abstract, References, etc..). How can 
I change this so that I can easially switch between dutch and english? I am not 
really handy with all this MikTeX stuff, so I hope you guys can help me out!
Thanks!

Tim

Re: Dutch LyX

2007-12-30 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Tim Vos wrote:
 I would like to write my reports in dutch, but I don't have a 'patch' that
 makes all LyX inputs dutch (for example: Abstract, References, etc..). How
 can I change this so that I can easially switch between dutch and english?

Select dutch in Document-Settings-Language. This will load the dutch 
hyphenation patterns, enable dutch spell checking and translate strings 
like References, Chapter etc. in the output. To select different languages 
for single paragraphs or expressions, use Edit-Text Style-Language.

The strings remain untranslated (i.e., English) in the LyX work area, though. 
The reason is that the dutch translation of the LyX user interface has not 
been maintained since March 2003 and was removed from the release (since it 
does not have the minimum number of required translations).

If you feel like it, you're welcome to get the dutch translation into shape 
again. All that it needs is a text editor and dutch language skills:

http://www.lyx.org/devel/translation.php
http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/README.localization

If you're interested, contact the lyx-docs (at) lists (dot) lyx (dot) org 

Jürgen


How do you handle definition lists?

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

My new book will have a glossary or definition list at the beginning of each 
chapter, in order to introduce words introduced in the chapter.

I could do it with a table, or with the Description environment (my favorite), 
or maybe some other way.

Curious -- in what format do you all usually put such glossaries?


Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts


Re: importing a database

2007-12-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Pol wrote:

I would like to import a whole database into a lyx table, to edit before
printing. 
Specifically, i am using tellico as database, but any solution is welcome.
I know i can export as bibtex, but how to import into a table? 



I don't know tellico, but a general approach is to export the database 
to a spreadsheet, either directly (if supported) or by exporting a text 
file and then importing the text file into the spreadsheet.  Then create 
a table of the appropriate dimensions in the LyX document and follow the 
tips on the wiki (http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets) 
to copy the data from the spreadsheet to the LyX doc.


/Paul



Reminder of otl2lyx.awk

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

Just a reminder for those of you using both VimOutliner and LyX that you can 
convert a tab indented outline with colon+space defined body text with 
otl2lyx.awk, available here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/Otl2lyx

First you fill out the level to environment table file so that the program 
correctly converts between indent levels and LyX environments, and then you 
run it like this:

otl2lyx.awk level2environmentfile outlinefile

The resulting LyX content comes out stdout and can be redirected to a file. 
Then you simply build an empty LyX doc in the desired document class, and 
using an editor put in the LyX content from otl2lyx.awk.

otl2lyx.awk has been tested and works for LyX 1.4.x. I hear 1.5.x has a 
different format, so obviously otl2lyx.awk must be changed to output the 
1.5.x type LyX, or maybe the LyX project offers a converter. Either way it's 
not rocket science.

Modern LyX offers an outline mode similar to MS Word. IMHO that's the single 
greatest feature advance since character styles. However, I still use 
VimOutliner to create the initial outline, because VimOutliner is so 
amazingly fast for a touch typist. It's nice to know that once I've converted 
to LyX, I can continue to handle my document as an outline within LyX.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


use of paralist

2007-12-30 Thread Hellmut Weber - CORPHIS Service and More

Hi,
recently paralist was mentioned to permit lists in regular paragraphs in 
LaTeX.


My idea how to use so far is to define layout entries to start an 
'inparaenum' environment and to end it. Supposing that I can use a 
normal item inside.

I don't consider this a nice 'lyxish' solution.

Would be interested whether somebody has already experiences with this 
package.


TIA

Hellmut


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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Ray Henry
My family uses 1.3.6 on three Ubuntu 6.06 LTS boxes for books, articles,
reports, Broadway, and classroom materials.  I've home built 1.5.2 for
Ubuntu Feisty for testing.  Have not decided to upgrade the rest yet but
will test 1.5.3 soon.

An open-source project that I work with, the Enhanced Machine Controller
also uses 1.3.6 extensively for documentation.  Lyx files are included
in the CVS for the project.  We offer the option of automatic document
preparation during make and provide automated updates if changes are
made to the lyx code for the developer versions of documents on our
site.  That documentation runs several hundred pages of PDF and quite a
stack of HTML. 

The curious can browse/download at http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/. 
Really intrepid explorers are welcome at
http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/docs/src/

Thanks to all for a great product, great service, and really quick help.

Ray Henry






I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

For the first time I've gone beyond book outlining in VO (VimOutliner) and am 
actually writing the book (via body text) in VO. What this does is eliminate 
the artificial demarkation between outlining and writing. 

It's very possible, and in fact quite likely, that some chapters will be ready 
for writing long before others are fully outlined. In the past this led me to 
either retard writing certain chapters, or prematurely convert to LyX.

Now, to an extent, I can write one chapter while outlining another, and have 
everything come out well in the end.

This is not a rigorous process. The VO writing will be only a very rough 
draft. It can't include things like Tips, Notes, character styles etc. Well, 
it could, but not without time consuming difficulty. Instead, this is an 
informal extension of traditional outlining. The goal is still to have the 
book really take shape in LyX.

Fortunately, recent versions of LyX include an outline mode similar to what MS 
Word has had forever. This means that in all stages of development, outlining 
methods can be used. Early, when outlining speed is paramount, VO is used for 
speed, but some writing and formatting capabilities are available.. Later, 
when writing and formatting capabilities are most important, LyX is used, 
with the advantage that some outlining capabilities are still retained.

Stay tuned...

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Bob Alvarez
This is quite interesting to me as I am also interested in writing a book
with Lyx. I think I have seen some of your discussions in using VIM, and I
guess now VIM outliner, with Lyx. Could you provide links to documents on
your website and possibly posts on the Lyx user's mailing list where you
discuss the use of VIM with Lyx?

TIA

Bob


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Typhoon
Since there seems to be some interest in this, I would like to offer my
alternative experience.

I am a great believer in outlines for anything longer than a letter to
Mum. I also use them the way that Steve talks about - outline - write -
outline, etc.

My first experience was with Thinktank back in the prehistoric era. It
had a neat feature called Hoist: one part of the outline was made to
appear as the whole - a chapter in a book could be hoisted for that
day's work and the rest of the material was well and truly out of the
way. It is a form of folding. This hoisting is **very** valuable
when writing longer texts.

Emacs can be made to behave the same way with outline-minor-mode and
foldout. The hoist is actually the foldout-zoom-subtree command. You
can use outlining and write directly in LaTeX.

So, what I do is much as described by Steve except at the end I can
import a LaTeX file into LyX.

Of course, it depends on whether you like emacs. I understand that
not all people do :-).

It would be a valuable feature to add directly to LyX (in case the
developers have a lot of extra time on their hands!!!).

Cheers,
Alan


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread killermike
On Monday 31 December 2007 03:54:28 Typhoon wrote:
 Since there seems to be some interest in this, I would like to offer my
 alternative experience.

 I am a great believer in outlines for anything longer than a letter to
 Mum. I also use them the way that Steve talks about - outline - write -
 outline, etc.


I'm also a fan of outlining. For the last year or so I have a been using 
a mind mapping tool called Kdissert. You can see some of its output in this 
posting (scroll down):

http://www.unmusic.co.uk/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=29

The great thing about outlining graphically, is that you can put an idea down 
on the page without having to decide where it appears in the structure. This 
is useful for forgetful people like myself as I don't have to keep things in 
my head.

The problem with this tool is that editors don't usually accept pitches in 
graphical form. This means that the process of pitching an article consists 
of mapping it out and then writing it up, which is rather long-winded.

For this reason, like Steve, I've started to wonder if LyX itself can be used 
for outlining thanks to the new outlining sidebar. In the case of a detailed 
pitch, outlining and composing the pitch can be combined. I hear that 1.6 may 
contain folding section features? If so, this will make LyX even more 
plausible as an outliner.

For the book that I am writing, I am hoping that I can start creating chapter 
outlines from my written notes using the graphical tool. Once this is done, I 
can start writing the actual chapters by flitting between the written notes 
and the graphical mind-map.

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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Ignacio García
 On 28 Dezember 2007 23:18:39  Bob Lounsbury:
 Hi,

 I was just curious what everyone is using. If you'd like to respond
 that's fine, if not, just ignore the message. Also, could you include
 if you're running the latest LyX 1.5.3. Thanks in advance for anyones'
 input.

 Cheers and Happy New Year!
 Bob Lounsbury

Ubuntu 7.10; LyX-1.5.2 (Fri, Oct 5, 2007,
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.2/lyx-1.5.2-1_dapper_i386.deb)
Waiting for 1.5.3

Cheers
Ignacio


Linebreaks in tabulars?

2007-12-30 Thread bigblop

Is there someway to make linebreaks in a tabular for a single cell?
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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:30:17PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Hi Abdel,

 Ahhh! at last a (good) report about the increased speed in 1.5.3! You're 
 very welcome.

the speed problems are still a very weird problem I can hardly reproduce.
Yesterday it occured again when I started a backport of 1.5.3 for the first
time on a fresh system and today it's gone on the same box.
On my computer at home and my laptop I've been working with full speed and joy
for the last two month.

I've nearly given up on searching for a testcase where it's reproducible now.
Out of curiosity I've taken a look at the bugs filled against LyX in the
Ubuntu launchpad thingy last week and found at least those three describing
the same problem:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/136632
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/129813
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/94706

So I tink that the problem exits to some extend.

Beside that 1.5.3 seems to be solid now. Thanks to you and all the
other people involved. :)

Cheers,
Sven
-- 
There's no need for tears, cause there's no need to cry.
That love that you leave will never be denied.
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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Sven Hoexter wrote:

On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:30:17PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Hi Abdel,

  
Ahhh! at last a (good) report about the increased speed in 1.5.3! You're 
very welcome.



the speed problems are still a very weird problem I can hardly reproduce.
Yesterday it occured again when I started a backport of 1.5.3 for the first
time on a fresh system and today it's gone on the same box.
On my computer at home and my laptop I've been working with full speed and joy
for the last two month.

I've nearly given up on searching for a testcase where it's reproducible now.
Out of curiosity I've taken a look at the bugs filled against LyX in the
Ubuntu launchpad thingy last week and found at least those three describing
the same problem:
  


Hum, why are those people discussing the bugs there instead of our 
bugzilla and/or the mailing lists?



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/136632
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/129813
  
The slowness due to external clipboard has been solved in 1.5.2 IIRC. As 
to the scrolling and redraw problem, I am almost certain that it is an 
issue with X11 and the Window manager. LyX uses a pixmap (QPixmap) for 
the work area drawing and this is handled at the server side under X11; 
if for some reason, the pixmap transfer to screen is delayed, LyX will 
obviously appear to be very slow. I cannot do much without some 
profiling result but I understand at the same time that it's hard to 
profile if the slowness is intermittent. I could send out a patch that 
uses an image instead of a pixmap for drawing; the difference is that an 
image will be processed by the X11 client. This could speedup local 
execution of LyX but will be a problem for LyX over the network.



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/94706
  

Scrolling will be fixed in 1.6.

Abdel.



Problem rendering (QT4) itatlic Computer Modern

2007-12-30 Thread Jia 'Colin' Zheng
I'm using the OpenType version available at:
http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/~panov/cm-unicode/download.html
as my LyX interface fonts.

Please see the screenshot attached.  Italic CM serif is not
properly displayed, but it *does* show up correctly in Opera
(qt4 based) and qtconfig.

My question: Is it a LyX/QT rendering bug, or a (metric) problem
of this particular font?

I use LyX 1.5.3 and 1.60svn.
attachment: screenshot.png

Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo

El vie, 28-12-2007 a las 15:18 -0700, Bob Lounsbury escribió:
 Hi,
 
 I was just curious what everyone is using. If you'd like to respond
 that's fine, if not, just ignore the message. Also, could you include
 if you're running the latest LyX 1.5.3. Thanks in advance for anyones'
 input.
 

Laptop: Ubuntu 7.10, Lyx 1.5.1 at the moment (Ubuntu plus Gentoo just in
a few days, if possible...:-)
Desktop (home): Ubuntu 7.10, Lyx 1.5.1

 Cheers and Happy New Year!
 Bob Lounsbury

Same to you!
Daniel



Re: Linebreaks in tabulars?

2007-12-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

bigblop wrote:

Is there someway to make linebreaks in a tabular for a single cell?


You have to assign a fixed width to the column containing the cell.

/Paul



Dutch LyX

2007-12-30 Thread Tim Vos
Dear LyX users,

I would like to write my reports in dutch, but I don't have a 'patch' that 
makes all LyX inputs dutch (for example: Abstract, References, etc..). How can 
I change this so that I can easially switch between dutch and english? I am not 
really handy with all this MikTeX stuff, so I hope you guys can help me out!
Thanks!

Tim

Re: Dutch LyX

2007-12-30 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Tim Vos wrote:
 I would like to write my reports in dutch, but I don't have a 'patch' that
 makes all LyX inputs dutch (for example: Abstract, References, etc..). How
 can I change this so that I can easially switch between dutch and english?

Select dutch in Document-Settings-Language. This will load the dutch 
hyphenation patterns, enable dutch spell checking and translate strings 
like References, Chapter etc. in the output. To select different languages 
for single paragraphs or expressions, use Edit-Text Style-Language.

The strings remain untranslated (i.e., English) in the LyX work area, though. 
The reason is that the dutch translation of the LyX user interface has not 
been maintained since March 2003 and was removed from the release (since it 
does not have the minimum number of required translations).

If you feel like it, you're welcome to get the dutch translation into shape 
again. All that it needs is a text editor and dutch language skills:

http://www.lyx.org/devel/translation.php
http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/README.localization

If you're interested, contact the lyx-docs (at) lists (dot) lyx (dot) org 

Jürgen


How do you handle definition lists?

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

My new book will have a glossary or definition list at the beginning of each 
chapter, in order to introduce words introduced in the chapter.

I could do it with a table, or with the Description environment (my favorite), 
or maybe some other way.

Curious -- in what format do you all usually put such glossaries?


Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts


Re: importing a database

2007-12-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Pol wrote:

I would like to import a whole database into a lyx table, to edit before
printing. 
Specifically, i am using tellico as database, but any solution is welcome.
I know i can export as bibtex, but how to import into a table? 



I don't know tellico, but a general approach is to export the database 
to a spreadsheet, either directly (if supported) or by exporting a text 
file and then importing the text file into the spreadsheet.  Then create 
a table of the appropriate dimensions in the LyX document and follow the 
tips on the wiki (http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets) 
to copy the data from the spreadsheet to the LyX doc.


/Paul



Reminder of otl2lyx.awk

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

Just a reminder for those of you using both VimOutliner and LyX that you can 
convert a tab indented outline with colon+space defined body text with 
otl2lyx.awk, available here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/Otl2lyx

First you fill out the level to environment table file so that the program 
correctly converts between indent levels and LyX environments, and then you 
run it like this:

otl2lyx.awk level2environmentfile outlinefile

The resulting LyX content comes out stdout and can be redirected to a file. 
Then you simply build an empty LyX doc in the desired document class, and 
using an editor put in the LyX content from otl2lyx.awk.

otl2lyx.awk has been tested and works for LyX 1.4.x. I hear 1.5.x has a 
different format, so obviously otl2lyx.awk must be changed to output the 
1.5.x type LyX, or maybe the LyX project offers a converter. Either way it's 
not rocket science.

Modern LyX offers an outline mode similar to MS Word. IMHO that's the single 
greatest feature advance since character styles. However, I still use 
VimOutliner to create the initial outline, because VimOutliner is so 
amazingly fast for a touch typist. It's nice to know that once I've converted 
to LyX, I can continue to handle my document as an outline within LyX.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


use of paralist

2007-12-30 Thread Hellmut Weber - CORPHIS Service and More

Hi,
recently paralist was mentioned to permit lists in regular paragraphs in 
LaTeX.


My idea how to use so far is to define layout entries to start an 
'inparaenum' environment and to end it. Supposing that I can use a 
normal item inside.

I don't consider this a nice 'lyxish' solution.

Would be interested whether somebody has already experiences with this 
package.


TIA

Hellmut


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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Ray Henry
My family uses 1.3.6 on three Ubuntu 6.06 LTS boxes for books, articles,
reports, Broadway, and classroom materials.  I've home built 1.5.2 for
Ubuntu Feisty for testing.  Have not decided to upgrade the rest yet but
will test 1.5.3 soon.

An open-source project that I work with, the Enhanced Machine Controller
also uses 1.3.6 extensively for documentation.  Lyx files are included
in the CVS for the project.  We offer the option of automatic document
preparation during make and provide automated updates if changes are
made to the lyx code for the developer versions of documents on our
site.  That documentation runs several hundred pages of PDF and quite a
stack of HTML. 

The curious can browse/download at http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/. 
Really intrepid explorers are welcome at
http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/docs/src/

Thanks to all for a great product, great service, and really quick help.

Ray Henry






I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

For the first time I've gone beyond book outlining in VO (VimOutliner) and am 
actually writing the book (via body text) in VO. What this does is eliminate 
the artificial demarkation between outlining and writing. 

It's very possible, and in fact quite likely, that some chapters will be ready 
for writing long before others are fully outlined. In the past this led me to 
either retard writing certain chapters, or prematurely convert to LyX.

Now, to an extent, I can write one chapter while outlining another, and have 
everything come out well in the end.

This is not a rigorous process. The VO writing will be only a very rough 
draft. It can't include things like Tips, Notes, character styles etc. Well, 
it could, but not without time consuming difficulty. Instead, this is an 
informal extension of traditional outlining. The goal is still to have the 
book really take shape in LyX.

Fortunately, recent versions of LyX include an outline mode similar to what MS 
Word has had forever. This means that in all stages of development, outlining 
methods can be used. Early, when outlining speed is paramount, VO is used for 
speed, but some writing and formatting capabilities are available.. Later, 
when writing and formatting capabilities are most important, LyX is used, 
with the advantage that some outlining capabilities are still retained.

Stay tuned...

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Bob Alvarez
This is quite interesting to me as I am also interested in writing a book
with Lyx. I think I have seen some of your discussions in using VIM, and I
guess now VIM outliner, with Lyx. Could you provide links to documents on
your website and possibly posts on the Lyx user's mailing list where you
discuss the use of VIM with Lyx?

TIA

Bob


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Typhoon
Since there seems to be some interest in this, I would like to offer my
alternative experience.

I am a great believer in outlines for anything longer than a letter to
Mum. I also use them the way that Steve talks about - outline - write -
outline, etc.

My first experience was with Thinktank back in the prehistoric era. It
had a neat feature called Hoist: one part of the outline was made to
appear as the whole - a chapter in a book could be hoisted for that
day's work and the rest of the material was well and truly out of the
way. It is a form of folding. This hoisting is **very** valuable
when writing longer texts.

Emacs can be made to behave the same way with outline-minor-mode and
foldout. The hoist is actually the foldout-zoom-subtree command. You
can use outlining and write directly in LaTeX.

So, what I do is much as described by Steve except at the end I can
import a LaTeX file into LyX.

Of course, it depends on whether you like emacs. I understand that
not all people do :-).

It would be a valuable feature to add directly to LyX (in case the
developers have a lot of extra time on their hands!!!).

Cheers,
Alan


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread killermike
On Monday 31 December 2007 03:54:28 Typhoon wrote:
 Since there seems to be some interest in this, I would like to offer my
 alternative experience.

 I am a great believer in outlines for anything longer than a letter to
 Mum. I also use them the way that Steve talks about - outline - write -
 outline, etc.


I'm also a fan of outlining. For the last year or so I have a been using 
a mind mapping tool called Kdissert. You can see some of its output in this 
posting (scroll down):

http://www.unmusic.co.uk/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=29

The great thing about outlining graphically, is that you can put an idea down 
on the page without having to decide where it appears in the structure. This 
is useful for forgetful people like myself as I don't have to keep things in 
my head.

The problem with this tool is that editors don't usually accept pitches in 
graphical form. This means that the process of pitching an article consists 
of mapping it out and then writing it up, which is rather long-winded.

For this reason, like Steve, I've started to wonder if LyX itself can be used 
for outlining thanks to the new outlining sidebar. In the case of a detailed 
pitch, outlining and composing the pitch can be combined. I hear that 1.6 may 
contain folding section features? If so, this will make LyX even more 
plausible as an outliner.

For the book that I am writing, I am hoping that I can start creating chapter 
outlines from my written notes using the graphical tool. Once this is done, I 
can start writing the actual chapters by flitting between the written notes 
and the graphical mind-map.

-- 
http://www.unmusic.co.uk - about me, writing, music, gender, geek sitcom etc.



Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Ignacio García
 On 28 Dezember 2007 23:18:39  Bob Lounsbury:
> Hi,
>
> I was just curious what everyone is using. If you'd like to respond
> that's fine, if not, just ignore the message. Also, could you include
> if you're running the latest LyX 1.5.3. Thanks in advance for anyones'
> input.
>
> Cheers and Happy New Year!
> Bob Lounsbury

Ubuntu 7.10; LyX-1.5.2 (Fri, Oct 5, 2007,
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/1.5.2/lyx-1.5.2-1_dapper_i386.deb)
Waiting for 1.5.3

Cheers
Ignacio


Linebreaks in tabulars?

2007-12-30 Thread bigblop

Is there someway to make linebreaks in a tabular for a single cell?
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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:30:17PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Hi Abdel,

> Ahhh! at last a (good) report about the increased speed in 1.5.3! You're 
> very welcome.

the speed problems are still a very weird problem I can hardly reproduce.
Yesterday it occured again when I started a backport of 1.5.3 for the first
time on a fresh system and today it's gone on the same box.
On my computer at home and my laptop I've been working with full speed and joy
for the last two month.

I've nearly given up on searching for a testcase where it's reproducible now.
Out of curiosity I've taken a look at the bugs filled against LyX in the
Ubuntu launchpad thingy last week and found at least those three describing
the same problem:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/136632
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/129813
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/94706

So I tink that the problem exits to some extend.

Beside that 1.5.3 seems to be solid now. Thanks to you and all the
other people involved. :)

Cheers,
Sven
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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Abdelrazak Younes

Sven Hoexter wrote:

On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 11:30:17PM +0100, Abdelrazak Younes wrote:

Hi Abdel,

  
Ahhh! at last a (good) report about the increased speed in 1.5.3! You're 
very welcome.



the speed problems are still a very weird problem I can hardly reproduce.
Yesterday it occured again when I started a backport of 1.5.3 for the first
time on a fresh system and today it's gone on the same box.
On my computer at home and my laptop I've been working with full speed and joy
for the last two month.

I've nearly given up on searching for a testcase where it's reproducible now.
Out of curiosity I've taken a look at the bugs filled against LyX in the
Ubuntu launchpad thingy last week and found at least those three describing
the same problem:
  


Hum, why are those people discussing the bugs there instead of our 
bugzilla and/or the mailing lists?



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/136632
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/129813
  
The slowness due to external clipboard has been solved in 1.5.2 IIRC. As 
to the scrolling and redraw problem, I am almost certain that it is an 
issue with X11 and the Window manager. LyX uses a pixmap (QPixmap) for 
the work area drawing and this is handled at the server side under X11; 
if for some reason, the pixmap transfer to screen is delayed, LyX will 
obviously appear to be very slow. I cannot do much without some 
profiling result but I understand at the same time that it's hard to 
profile if the slowness is intermittent. I could send out a patch that 
uses an image instead of a pixmap for drawing; the difference is that an 
image will be processed by the X11 client. This could speedup local 
execution of LyX but will be a problem for LyX over the network.



https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lyx/+bug/94706
  

Scrolling will be fixed in 1.6.

Abdel.



Problem rendering (QT4) itatlic Computer Modern

2007-12-30 Thread Jia 'Colin' Zheng
I'm using the OpenType version available at:
http://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/~panov/cm-unicode/download.html
as my LyX interface fonts.

Please see the screenshot attached.  Italic CM serif is not
properly displayed, but it *does* show up correctly in Opera
(qt4 based) and qtconfig.

My question: Is it a LyX/QT rendering bug, or a (metric) problem
of this particular font?

I use LyX 1.5.3 and 1.60svn.
<>

Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Miguel Daniel Rodríguez Magarzo

El vie, 28-12-2007 a las 15:18 -0700, Bob Lounsbury escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> I was just curious what everyone is using. If you'd like to respond
> that's fine, if not, just ignore the message. Also, could you include
> if you're running the latest LyX 1.5.3. Thanks in advance for anyones'
> input.
> 

Laptop: Ubuntu 7.10, Lyx 1.5.1 at the moment (Ubuntu plus Gentoo just in
a few days, if possible...:-)
Desktop (home): Ubuntu 7.10, Lyx 1.5.1

> Cheers and Happy New Year!
> Bob Lounsbury

Same to you!
Daniel



Re: Linebreaks in tabulars?

2007-12-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

bigblop wrote:

Is there someway to make linebreaks in a tabular for a single cell?


You have to assign a fixed width to the column containing the cell.

/Paul



Dutch LyX

2007-12-30 Thread Tim Vos
Dear LyX users,

I would like to write my reports in dutch, but I don't have a 'patch' that 
makes all LyX inputs dutch (for example: Abstract, References, etc..). How can 
I change this so that I can easially switch between dutch and english? I am not 
really handy with all this MikTeX stuff, so I hope you guys can help me out!
Thanks!

Tim

Re: Dutch LyX

2007-12-30 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
Tim Vos wrote:
> I would like to write my reports in dutch, but I don't have a 'patch' that
> makes all LyX inputs dutch (for example: Abstract, References, etc..). How
> can I change this so that I can easially switch between dutch and english?

Select "dutch" in Document->Settings->Language. This will load the dutch 
hyphenation patterns, enable dutch spell checking and translate strings 
like "References, Chapter" etc. in the output. To select different languages 
for single paragraphs or expressions, use Edit->Text Style->Language.

The strings remain untranslated (i.e., English) in the LyX work area, though. 
The reason is that the dutch translation of the LyX user interface has not 
been maintained since March 2003 and was removed from the release (since it 
does not have the minimum number of required translations).

If you feel like it, you're welcome to get the dutch translation into shape 
again. All that it needs is a text editor and dutch language skills:

http://www.lyx.org/devel/translation.php
http://www.lyx.org/trac/browser/lyx-devel/trunk/README.localization

If you're interested, contact the lyx-docs (at) lists (dot) lyx (dot) org 

Jürgen


How do you handle definition lists?

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

My new book will have a glossary or definition list at the beginning of each 
chapter, in order to introduce words introduced in the chapter.

I could do it with a table, or with the Description environment (my favorite), 
or maybe some other way.

Curious -- in what format do you all usually put such glossaries?


Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Books written in LyX:
Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist
Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
Troubleshooting: Just the Facts


Re: importing a database

2007-12-30 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Pol wrote:

I would like to import a whole database into a lyx table, to edit before
printing. 
Specifically, i am using tellico as database, but any solution is welcome.
I know i can export as bibtex, but how to import into a table? 



I don't know tellico, but a general approach is to export the database 
to a spreadsheet, either directly (if supported) or by exporting a text 
file and then importing the text file into the spreadsheet.  Then create 
a table of the appropriate dimensions in the LyX document and follow the 
tips on the wiki (http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets) 
to copy the data from the spreadsheet to the LyX doc.


/Paul



Reminder of otl2lyx.awk

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

Just a reminder for those of you using both VimOutliner and LyX that you can 
convert a tab indented outline with colon+space defined body text with 
otl2lyx.awk, available here:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Tools/Otl2lyx

First you fill out the level to environment table file so that the program 
correctly converts between indent levels and LyX environments, and then you 
run it like this:

otl2lyx.awk level2environmentfile outlinefile

The resulting LyX content comes out stdout and can be redirected to a file. 
Then you simply build an empty LyX doc in the desired document class, and 
using an editor put in the LyX content from otl2lyx.awk.

otl2lyx.awk has been tested and works for LyX 1.4.x. I hear 1.5.x has a 
different format, so obviously otl2lyx.awk must be changed to output the 
1.5.x type LyX, or maybe the LyX project offers a converter. Either way it's 
not rocket science.

Modern LyX offers an "outline mode" similar to MS Word. IMHO that's the single 
greatest feature advance since character styles. However, I still use 
VimOutliner to create the initial outline, because VimOutliner is so 
amazingly fast for a touch typist. It's nice to know that once I've converted 
to LyX, I can continue to handle my document as an outline within LyX.

Thanks

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


use of paralist

2007-12-30 Thread Hellmut Weber - CORPHIS Service and More

Hi,
recently paralist was mentioned to permit lists in regular paragraphs in 
LaTeX.


My idea how to use so far is to define layout entries to start an 
'inparaenum' environment and to end it. Supposing that I can use a 
normal item inside.

I don't consider this a nice 'lyxish' solution.

Would be interested whether somebody has already experiences with this 
package.


TIA

Hellmut


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Re: fun poll: your linux distro

2007-12-30 Thread Ray Henry
My family uses 1.3.6 on three Ubuntu 6.06 LTS boxes for books, articles,
reports, Broadway, and classroom materials.  I've home built 1.5.2 for
Ubuntu Feisty for testing.  Have not decided to upgrade the rest yet but
will test 1.5.3 soon.

An open-source project that I work with, the Enhanced Machine Controller
also uses 1.3.6 extensively for documentation.  Lyx files are included
in the CVS for the project.  We offer the option of automatic document
preparation during make and provide automated updates if changes are
made to the lyx code for the developer versions of documents on our
site.  That documentation runs several hundred pages of PDF and quite a
stack of HTML. 

The curious can browse/download at http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/. 
Really intrepid explorers are welcome at
http://cvs.linuxcnc.org/cvs/emc2/docs/src/

Thanks to all for a great product, great service, and really quick help.

Ray Henry






I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all,

For the first time I've gone beyond book outlining in VO (VimOutliner) and am 
actually writing the book (via body text) in VO. What this does is eliminate 
the artificial demarkation between outlining and writing. 

It's very possible, and in fact quite likely, that some chapters will be ready 
for writing long before others are fully outlined. In the past this led me to 
either retard writing certain chapters, or prematurely convert to LyX.

Now, to an extent, I can write one chapter while outlining another, and have 
everything come out well in the end.

This is not a rigorous process. The VO writing will be only a very rough 
draft. It can't include things like Tips, Notes, character styles etc. Well, 
it could, but not without time consuming difficulty. Instead, this is an 
informal extension of traditional outlining. The goal is still to have the 
book really take shape in LyX.

Fortunately, recent versions of LyX include an outline mode similar to what MS 
Word has had forever. This means that in all stages of development, outlining 
methods can be used. Early, when outlining speed is paramount, VO is used for 
speed, but some writing and formatting capabilities are available.. Later, 
when writing and formatting capabilities are most important, LyX is used, 
with the advantage that some outlining capabilities are still retained.

Stay tuned...

SteveT

Steve Litt
Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books and courseware
http://www.troubleshooters.com/


I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Bob Alvarez
This is quite interesting to me as I am also interested in writing a book
with Lyx. I think I have seen some of your discussions in using VIM, and I
guess now VIM outliner, with Lyx. Could you provide links to documents on
your website and possibly posts on the Lyx user's mailing list where you
discuss the use of VIM with Lyx?

TIA

Bob


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread Typhoon
Since there seems to be some interest in this, I would like to offer my
alternative experience.

I am a great believer in outlines for anything longer than a letter to
Mum. I also use them the way that Steve talks about - outline - write -
outline, etc.

My first experience was with Thinktank back in the prehistoric era. It
had a neat feature called "Hoist": one part of the outline was made to
appear as the whole - a chapter in a book could be "hoisted" for that
day's work and the rest of the material was well and truly out of the
way. It is a form of "folding". This "hoisting" is **very** valuable
when writing longer texts.

Emacs can be made to behave the same way with outline-minor-mode and
foldout. The "hoist" is actually the foldout-zoom-subtree command. You
can use outlining and write directly in LaTeX.

So, what I do is much as described by Steve except at the end I can
import a LaTeX file into LyX.

Of course, it depends on whether you like emacs. I understand that
not all people do :-).

It would be a valuable feature to add directly to LyX (in case the
developers have a lot of extra time on their hands!!!).

Cheers,
Alan


Re: I'm writing a book in VimOutliner

2007-12-30 Thread killermike
On Monday 31 December 2007 03:54:28 Typhoon wrote:
> Since there seems to be some interest in this, I would like to offer my
> alternative experience.
>
> I am a great believer in outlines for anything longer than a letter to
> Mum. I also use them the way that Steve talks about - outline - write -
> outline, etc.
>

I'm also a fan of outlining. For the last year or so I have a been using 
a "mind mapping" tool called Kdissert. You can see some of its output in this 
posting (scroll down):

http://www.unmusic.co.uk/index.php?name=News=article=29

The great thing about outlining graphically, is that you can put an idea down 
on the page without having to decide where it appears in the structure. This 
is useful for forgetful people like myself as I don't have to keep things in 
my head.

The problem with this tool is that editors don't usually accept pitches in 
graphical form. This means that the process of pitching an article consists 
of mapping it out and then writing it up, which is rather long-winded.

For this reason, like Steve, I've started to wonder if LyX itself can be used 
for outlining thanks to the new outlining sidebar. In the case of a detailed 
pitch, outlining and composing the pitch can be combined. I hear that 1.6 may 
contain folding section features? If so, this will make LyX even more 
plausible as an outliner.

For the book that I am writing, I am hoping that I can start creating chapter 
outlines from my written notes using the graphical tool. Once this is done, I 
can start writing the actual chapters by flitting between the written notes 
and the graphical mind-map.

-- 
http://www.unmusic.co.uk - about me, writing, music, gender, geek sitcom etc.