OT: missing tlmgr in Linux distros (was 'Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu')

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all
Even if it's quite off-topic for lyx-users, re-opening an old discussion.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:
 The Problem is that you often end up with a mess because some third party
 installers/package manager overwrite files of your distribution packages.
 And a few weeks later a new update for your distribution arrives and
 replaces some of the newer files with another older but patched set.

 Sure. But you lose one of the most important features of TeXLive: immediate
 update to the most recent packages from CTAN.

Most people in this thread raised up the 'update' issues: tlmgr can
update packages to the latest available versions. But what about
installing new packages, such as those that are not packaged by
default by the distro? (I make heavy use of 'frletter', but there's no
way it'll get packaged any time soon by Debian/Ubuntu. Otherwise, half
of LyX's document classes are unavailable.) What about installing
non-default fonts? (I'm specifically thinking of Optima/URW Classico,
but other needs may arise.)

Some suggested that users advanced to need non-default classes should
have advanced knowledge and manage an upstream LaTeX installation.
Although I might have enough experience to figure this out, I'm pretty
sure I'm not enthusiastic enough to manage dependency problems arising
from an uninstalled TeXLive or to manually install LaTeX packages or
_fonts_. And at the same time I do need non-default packages.

Is there really no easy way to have tlmgr alongside
Debian/Ubuntu-provided TeXLive binaries? Regards
Liviu

PS For those concerned, there is an Ubuntu Idea [1] where you can vote
on this issue.
[1] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11449/


 I cannot judge *buntu or Debian, but openSuse does not update the TeXLive
 package often enough for my needs, so I'd always recommend to abandon the
 distro version and go for the upstream TeXLive version.

 Jürgen




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Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Manolo Martínez]

If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

Manolo

El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
 Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
 thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
 compilation process:

 !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found

 The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
 anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
 this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,

 Best regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com

   

Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Julio Rojas]

Nope Manolo, I'm on Win 7... Any idea? At least on how to get out of
this problem with any other font? I tried changing the class file
using another monospaced font, but it seems the problem comes from the
rescaling of the font to the size desired. Removing this rescaling
factor (.85) or setting it to one generates another type of error.

Thanks for your help.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Manolo Martínez
man...@austrohungaro.com wrote:
 If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

 Manolo

 El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
 Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
 thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
 compilation process:

 !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found

 The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
 anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
 this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,

 Best regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com

SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Hello,

I posted a similar question earlier, but without a response - maybe it 
wasn't worded properly, as I was in a bit of a panic, when it was posted.


SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output 
into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but 
occasionally I need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs 
produced by the code.


I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation 
that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.


I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar 
problem with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.


Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two 
document versions: one with code and one without.


I could live with all the code ending up in an appendix, and wondered if 
there was some clever way of working with two files, one for the 
analysis that would run first, then the main document could grab output 
from this analysis file for the main text, and then dump the analysis 
file into the compiled document as an appendix. If that makes sense.


Any suggestions gratefully received.

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Graham Smith
graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk wrote:
 SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output
 into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but occasionally I
 need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs produced by the
 code.

 I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation
 that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.

 I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar problem
 with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.

 Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two document
 versions: one with code and one without.

Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows
echo=F=
@

You might be able to play with these to tailor the document as needed.
Let us know if this solves your issues.
Liviu



 I could live with all the code ending up in an appendix, and wondered if
 there was some clever way of working with two files, one for the analysis
 that would run first, then the main document could grab output from this
 analysis file for the main text, and then dump the analysis file into the
 compiled document as an appendix. If that makes sense.

 Any suggestions gratefully received.

 Graham





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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Liviu


Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows
echo=F=
@


I have used this in specific chunks but it isn't practical for a full 
report. Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I 
will give it a go.


Thanks,

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 10/09/10 13:20, Graham Smith wrote:
 Liviu
 
 Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
 and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
 option on specific chunks as follows
 echo=F=
 @
 
 I have used this in specific chunks but it isn't practical for a full
 report. 

Well - you could open the LyX document in a text editor, and do a
search-replace, so that all chunks have the same option? Also something
I did in the past.

 Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I
 will give it a go.

If I remember correctly, I tried to set it in the preamble, but it was
overwritten again - so I put it into an ert block at the beginning of
the document and it was working.

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Thanks,
 
 Graham
 


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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Liviu,

This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the 
SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still 
get the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the 
numerical output


However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the 
main text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.


All told this looks very good.

Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Graham Smith
graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk wrote:
 Liviu,

 This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the
 SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still get
 the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the numerical
 output

 However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the main
 text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.

 All told this looks very good.

Great. Let us know if you still have issues.
Liviu

 Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.

 Graham





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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Rainer


Well - you could open the LyX document in a text editor, and do a
search-replace, so that all chunks have the same option? Also something
I did in the past.


Yes, this is an option, but its an added complication I would rather avoid



Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I
will give it a go.


If I remember correctly, I tried to set it in the preamble, but it was
overwritten again - so I put it into an ert block at the beginning of
the document and it was working.


I have it an ERT block at the beginning of the document, as it didn't 
seem to work in the pre-amble, but that was before I realised that the 
local echo=T were overrding the SWeaveOpt command. So I'm not sure now.


However, as I've said in another response I now seem to have the makings 
of someting that will work.


Thanks,

Graham

Re: looking for layout for MNRAS journal

[Piotr A. Dybczyński]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:43:43 +0200 Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Do you still need it or is it too late? I'm already working on another 
 layout file and could this way also write a layout file for MNRAS.

Yes, please!

When writing a scientific paper, urgent means a month or two ;-)

Thanks in advance,
Piotr

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pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[obregonmateo]

I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and when 
I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can see the 
preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot find the file 
it refers to. The error I get is:

Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.

However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on the 
resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex fiel, I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{article}


It seems as though lyx is generating a new file name but not the associated 
file.

Anyone know how to get pdfpages working again?

Mateo.

Re: pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 10.09.2010 16:20, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com:


I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and when 
I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can see the 
preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot find the file 
it refers to. The error I get is:

Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.

However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on the 
resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex fiel, I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{article}


The problem is that LyX cannot yet handle relative paths very well. 
Therefore try to specify the file with its absolute path.


regards Uwe

Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Manolo Martínez]

I'm sorry, I spent quite a bit of time making classicthesis work in
ubuntu, but I'm afraid the experience is useless for Windows... You have
tried to download and install Bera from the TeX catalogue
(http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/bera.html), of course?

Manolo

El 10/09/10 10:49, Julio Rojas escribió:
 Nope Manolo, I'm on Win 7... Any idea? At least on how to get out of
 this problem with any other font? I tried changing the class file
 using another monospaced font, but it seems the problem comes from the
 rescaling of the font to the size desired. Removing this rescaling
 factor (.85) or setting it to one generates another type of error.

 Thanks for your help.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com



 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Manolo Martínez
 man...@austrohungaro.com wrote:
   
 If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

 Manolo

 El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
 
 Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
 thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
 compilation process:

 !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found

 The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
 anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
 this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,

 Best regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com


   

 
   

Re: Tables and more tables

[Todd Denniston]

John Coppens wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Hello people,
 
 Two problems with tables:
 
 1) Scrolling:
 
 When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
SNIP
 
 I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
 worse by causing extra scrolling.
 
 Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?
 

If the toolbar is of use to you, I have found that locking it in made the 
situation better.
to lock it in...
get into some standard text
select View-Toolbars
select Table (auto)

If you look back in View-Toolbars it will show a check mark next to Table 
(auto), and the Table
toolbar will stay stuck on LyX User Interface until you undo the check mark, 
thus less random scrolling.

I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
Hope this helps some.
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Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
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Re: pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[obregonmateo]

On Friday 10 September 2010, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 Am 10.09.2010 16:20, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com:
 
  I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
  Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and 
  when I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can 
  see the preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot 
  find the file it refers to. The error I get is:
 
  Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.
 
  However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on 
  the resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex 
  fiel, I see:
 
  \includepdf[pages=-]{article}
 
 The problem is that LyX cannot yet handle relative paths very well. 
 Therefore try to specify the file with its absolute path.

Thanks for your quick reply. I tried fully specifying the file name in the 
dpfpages dialogue box, but I get the same error message. I exported the lyx 
document to latex(pdflatex) and I looked at the \includepdf{} command. I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{0_home_mateo_work_article}

which does not work because there is no file by this name.

Any more suggestions?

Should I regard this as a bug in v. 1.6.7 that is known about and therefore I 
shouldn't worry about filing a bug report?

Mateo.

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:53:28 -0400
Todd Denniston todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:

 I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
 Hope this helps some.

Great idea, Todd. Thanks

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:44 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Am 09.09.2010 18:45, schrieb John Coppens:
 
  1) Scrolling:
 
  When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
  unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around,
 
 This is a known problem. The situation will be much better in the next 
 major LyX version 2.0.

Thanks for the reply Uwe.

I'm not clear if the beta is stable enough to replace 1.6.7? 

  2) Table in table:
 
  I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
  touching, which isn't too aesthetic...
 
 Insert some horizontal or vertical space if necessary. The 
 EmbeddedObkects manual that you find in LyX's Help emnu shows you many 
 examples how to do this. (Start with sec. 3.7 Subfloats and/or sec. 
 2.12.1 Row Spacing.)

I tried the suggestions in 2.12.1:
  I added 3 mm 'bottom of the row', but no difference came out in the
PDF (the screen did update, and to be sure I also clicked 'update' PDF).
DVI didn't show the space either.

3.7 mentions putting minipages... Tried that too. That made the
register tables go outside the outer table (to the right). Tried to
adjust sizes (as text %, as cm etc, but all tests gave unpredictable
results.

None of the tests allowed to add spacing below the inner table.

I also tested (as I commented in the previous mail), that inserting a
vertical space below the inner table actually works, but doesn't
communicate the new size to the outer table, so the bottom border of
the table row disappears.

It's a small document. If someone would like to have a go, I'll post
the LyX file.

Thanks!
John

OT: missing tlmgr in Linux distros (was 'Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu')

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all
Even if it's quite off-topic for lyx-users, re-opening an old discussion.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller sp...@lyx.org wrote:
 Sven Hoexter wrote:
 The Problem is that you often end up with a mess because some third party
 installers/package manager overwrite files of your distribution packages.
 And a few weeks later a new update for your distribution arrives and
 replaces some of the newer files with another older but patched set.

 Sure. But you lose one of the most important features of TeXLive: immediate
 update to the most recent packages from CTAN.

Most people in this thread raised up the 'update' issues: tlmgr can
update packages to the latest available versions. But what about
installing new packages, such as those that are not packaged by
default by the distro? (I make heavy use of 'frletter', but there's no
way it'll get packaged any time soon by Debian/Ubuntu. Otherwise, half
of LyX's document classes are unavailable.) What about installing
non-default fonts? (I'm specifically thinking of Optima/URW Classico,
but other needs may arise.)

Some suggested that users advanced to need non-default classes should
have advanced knowledge and manage an upstream LaTeX installation.
Although I might have enough experience to figure this out, I'm pretty
sure I'm not enthusiastic enough to manage dependency problems arising
from an uninstalled TeXLive or to manually install LaTeX packages or
_fonts_. And at the same time I do need non-default packages.

Is there really no easy way to have tlmgr alongside
Debian/Ubuntu-provided TeXLive binaries? Regards
Liviu

PS For those concerned, there is an Ubuntu Idea [1] where you can vote
on this issue.
[1] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11449/


 I cannot judge *buntu or Debian, but openSuse does not update the TeXLive
 package often enough for my needs, so I'd always recommend to abandon the
 distro version and go for the upstream TeXLive version.

 Jürgen




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Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Manolo Martínez]

If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

Manolo

El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
 Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
 thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
 compilation process:

 !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found

 The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
 anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
 this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,

 Best regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com

   

Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Julio Rojas]

Nope Manolo, I'm on Win 7... Any idea? At least on how to get out of
this problem with any other font? I tried changing the class file
using another monospaced font, but it seems the problem comes from the
rescaling of the font to the size desired. Removing this rescaling
factor (.85) or setting it to one generates another type of error.

Thanks for your help.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Manolo Martínez
man...@austrohungaro.com wrote:
 If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

 Manolo

 El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
 Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
 thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
 compilation process:

 !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found

 The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
 anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
 this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,

 Best regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com

SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Hello,

I posted a similar question earlier, but without a response - maybe it 
wasn't worded properly, as I was in a bit of a panic, when it was posted.


SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output 
into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but 
occasionally I need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs 
produced by the code.


I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation 
that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.


I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar 
problem with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.


Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two 
document versions: one with code and one without.


I could live with all the code ending up in an appendix, and wondered if 
there was some clever way of working with two files, one for the 
analysis that would run first, then the main document could grab output 
from this analysis file for the main text, and then dump the analysis 
file into the compiled document as an appendix. If that makes sense.


Any suggestions gratefully received.

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Graham Smith
graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk wrote:
 SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output
 into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but occasionally I
 need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs produced by the
 code.

 I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation
 that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.

 I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar problem
 with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.

 Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two document
 versions: one with code and one without.

Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows
echo=F=
@

You might be able to play with these to tailor the document as needed.
Let us know if this solves your issues.
Liviu



 I could live with all the code ending up in an appendix, and wondered if
 there was some clever way of working with two files, one for the analysis
 that would run first, then the main document could grab output from this
 analysis file for the main text, and then dump the analysis file into the
 compiled document as an appendix. If that makes sense.

 Any suggestions gratefully received.

 Graham





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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Liviu


Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows
echo=F=
@


I have used this in specific chunks but it isn't practical for a full 
report. Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I 
will give it a go.


Thanks,

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Rainer M Krug]

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On 10/09/10 13:20, Graham Smith wrote:
 Liviu
 
 Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
 and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
 option on specific chunks as follows
 echo=F=
 @
 
 I have used this in specific chunks but it isn't practical for a full
 report. 

Well - you could open the LyX document in a text editor, and do a
search-replace, so that all chunks have the same option? Also something
I did in the past.

 Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I
 will give it a go.

If I remember correctly, I tried to set it in the preamble, but it was
overwritten again - so I put it into an ert block at the beginning of
the document and it was working.

Cheers,

Rainer


 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Liviu,

This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the 
SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still 
get the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the 
numerical output


However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the 
main text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.


All told this looks very good.

Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Graham Smith
graham.sm...@myotis.co.uk wrote:
 Liviu,

 This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the
 SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still get
 the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the numerical
 output

 However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the main
 text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.

 All told this looks very good.

Great. Let us know if you still have issues.
Liviu

 Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.

 Graham





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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Rainer


Well - you could open the LyX document in a text editor, and do a
search-replace, so that all chunks have the same option? Also something
I did in the past.


Yes, this is an option, but its an added complication I would rather avoid



Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I
will give it a go.


If I remember correctly, I tried to set it in the preamble, but it was
overwritten again - so I put it into an ert block at the beginning of
the document and it was working.


I have it an ERT block at the beginning of the document, as it didn't 
seem to work in the pre-amble, but that was before I realised that the 
local echo=T were overrding the SWeaveOpt command. So I'm not sure now.


However, as I've said in another response I now seem to have the makings 
of someting that will work.


Thanks,

Graham

Re: looking for layout for MNRAS journal

[Piotr A. Dybczyński]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:43:43 +0200 Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Do you still need it or is it too late? I'm already working on another 
 layout file and could this way also write a layout file for MNRAS.

Yes, please!

When writing a scientific paper, urgent means a month or two ;-)

Thanks in advance,
Piotr

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pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[obregonmateo]

I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and when 
I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can see the 
preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot find the file 
it refers to. The error I get is:

Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.

However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on the 
resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex fiel, I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{article}


It seems as though lyx is generating a new file name but not the associated 
file.

Anyone know how to get pdfpages working again?

Mateo.

Re: pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 10.09.2010 16:20, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com:


I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and when 
I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can see the 
preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot find the file 
it refers to. The error I get is:

Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.

However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on the 
resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex fiel, I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{article}


The problem is that LyX cannot yet handle relative paths very well. 
Therefore try to specify the file with its absolute path.


regards Uwe

Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Manolo Martínez]

I'm sorry, I spent quite a bit of time making classicthesis work in
ubuntu, but I'm afraid the experience is useless for Windows... You have
tried to download and install Bera from the TeX catalogue
(http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/bera.html), of course?

Manolo

El 10/09/10 10:49, Julio Rojas escribió:
 Nope Manolo, I'm on Win 7... Any idea? At least on how to get out of
 this problem with any other font? I tried changing the class file
 using another monospaced font, but it seems the problem comes from the
 rescaling of the font to the size desired. Removing this rescaling
 factor (.85) or setting it to one generates another type of error.

 Thanks for your help.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com



 On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Manolo Martínez
 man...@austrohungaro.com wrote:
   
 If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

 Manolo

 El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
 
 Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
 thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
 compilation process:

 !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found

 The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
 anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
 this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,

 Best regards.
 -
 Julio Rojas
 jcredbe...@gmail.com


   

 
   

Re: Tables and more tables

[Todd Denniston]

John Coppens wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
 Hello people,
 
 Two problems with tables:
 
 1) Scrolling:
 
 When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
SNIP
 
 I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
 worse by causing extra scrolling.
 
 Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?
 

If the toolbar is of use to you, I have found that locking it in made the 
situation better.
to lock it in...
get into some standard text
select View-Toolbars
select Table (auto)

If you look back in View-Toolbars it will show a check mark next to Table 
(auto), and the Table
toolbar will stay stuck on LyX User Interface until you undo the check mark, 
thus less random scrolling.

I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
Hope this helps some.
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Re: pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[obregonmateo]

On Friday 10 September 2010, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
 Am 10.09.2010 16:20, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com:
 
  I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
  Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and 
  when I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can 
  see the preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot 
  find the file it refers to. The error I get is:
 
  Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.
 
  However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on 
  the resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex 
  fiel, I see:
 
  \includepdf[pages=-]{article}
 
 The problem is that LyX cannot yet handle relative paths very well. 
 Therefore try to specify the file with its absolute path.

Thanks for your quick reply. I tried fully specifying the file name in the 
dpfpages dialogue box, but I get the same error message. I exported the lyx 
document to latex(pdflatex) and I looked at the \includepdf{} command. I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{0_home_mateo_work_article}

which does not work because there is no file by this name.

Any more suggestions?

Should I regard this as a bug in v. 1.6.7 that is known about and therefore I 
shouldn't worry about filing a bug report?

Mateo.

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:53:28 -0400
Todd Denniston todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil wrote:

 I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
 Hope this helps some.

Great idea, Todd. Thanks

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:44 +0200
Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:

 Am 09.09.2010 18:45, schrieb John Coppens:
 
  1) Scrolling:
 
  When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
  unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around,
 
 This is a known problem. The situation will be much better in the next 
 major LyX version 2.0.

Thanks for the reply Uwe.

I'm not clear if the beta is stable enough to replace 1.6.7? 

  2) Table in table:
 
  I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
  touching, which isn't too aesthetic...
 
 Insert some horizontal or vertical space if necessary. The 
 EmbeddedObkects manual that you find in LyX's Help emnu shows you many 
 examples how to do this. (Start with sec. 3.7 Subfloats and/or sec. 
 2.12.1 Row Spacing.)

I tried the suggestions in 2.12.1:
  I added 3 mm 'bottom of the row', but no difference came out in the
PDF (the screen did update, and to be sure I also clicked 'update' PDF).
DVI didn't show the space either.

3.7 mentions putting minipages... Tried that too. That made the
register tables go outside the outer table (to the right). Tried to
adjust sizes (as text %, as cm etc, but all tests gave unpredictable
results.

None of the tests allowed to add spacing below the inner table.

I also tested (as I commented in the previous mail), that inserting a
vertical space below the inner table actually works, but doesn't
communicate the new size to the outer table, so the bottom border of
the table row disappears.

It's a small document. If someone would like to have a go, I'll post
the LyX file.

Thanks!
John

OT: missing tlmgr in Linux distros (was 'Re: LyX 1.6.7 Packages for Ubuntu')

[Liviu Andronic]

Dear all
Even if it's quite off-topic for lyx-users, re-opening an old discussion.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:
> Sven Hoexter wrote:
>> The Problem is that you often end up with a mess because some third party
>> installers/package manager overwrite files of your distribution packages.
>> And a few weeks later a new update for your distribution arrives and
>> replaces some of the newer files with another older but patched set.
>
> Sure. But you lose one of the most important features of TeXLive: immediate
> update to the most recent packages from CTAN.
>
Most people in this thread raised up the 'update' issues: tlmgr can
update packages to the latest available versions. But what about
installing new packages, such as those that are not packaged by
default by the distro? (I make heavy use of 'frletter', but there's no
way it'll get packaged any time soon by Debian/Ubuntu. Otherwise, half
of LyX's document classes are unavailable.) What about installing
non-default fonts? (I'm specifically thinking of Optima/URW Classico,
but other needs may arise.)

Some suggested that users advanced to need non-default classes should
have advanced knowledge and manage an upstream LaTeX installation.
Although I might have enough experience to figure this out, I'm pretty
sure I'm not enthusiastic enough to manage dependency problems arising
from an uninstalled TeXLive or to manually install LaTeX packages or
_fonts_. And at the same time I do need non-default packages.

Is there really no easy way to have tlmgr alongside
Debian/Ubuntu-provided TeXLive binaries? Regards
Liviu

PS For those concerned, there is an Ubuntu Idea [1] where you can vote
on this issue.
[1] http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11449/


> I cannot judge *buntu or Debian, but openSuse does not update the TeXLive
> package often enough for my needs, so I'd always recommend to abandon the
> distro version and go for the upstream TeXLive version.
>
> Jürgen
>



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Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Manolo Martínez]

If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.

Manolo

El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
> Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
> thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
> compilation process:
>
> !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found
>
> The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
> anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
> this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,
>
> Best regards.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
>   

Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Julio Rojas]

Nope Manolo, I'm on Win 7... Any idea? At least on how to get out of
this problem with any other font? I tried changing the class file
using another monospaced font, but it seems the problem comes from the
rescaling of the font to the size desired. Removing this rescaling
factor (.85) or setting it to one generates another type of error.

Thanks for your help.
-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com



On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Manolo Martínez
 wrote:
> If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.
>
> Manolo
>
> El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
>> Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
>> thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
>> compilation process:
>>
>> !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found
>>
>> The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
>> anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
>> this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,
>>
>> Best regards.
>> -
>> Julio Rojas
>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>
>

SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Hello,

I posted a similar question earlier, but without a response - maybe it 
wasn't worded properly, as I was in a bit of a panic, when it was posted.


SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output 
into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but 
occasionally I need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs 
produced by the code.


I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation 
that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.


I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar 
problem with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.


Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two 
document versions: one with code and one without.


I could live with all the code ending up in an appendix, and wondered if 
there was some clever way of working with two files, one for the 
analysis that would run first, then the main document could grab output 
from this analysis file for the main text, and then dump the analysis 
file into the compiled document as an appendix. If that makes sense.


Any suggestions gratefully received.

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Liviu Andronic]

Hello

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Graham Smith
 wrote:
> SWeave and Lyx are a great combination for combining R code and R output
> into the same document and most of the time this is fine, but occasionally I
> need a 2nd version without the code, but still any graphs produced by the
> code.
>
> I did try branches, but switching off a branch, which runs a calculation
> that a figure relies on, breaks the figure code.
>
> I also tried putting the code in an appendix, but this has a similar problem
> with the figure code calling data that hasn't yet been created.
>
> Has anyone any idea how this can be got around, and give me the two document
> versions: one with code and one without.
>
Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Liviu


Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
option on specific chunks as follows

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Rainer M Krug]

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Hash: SHA1

On 10/09/10 13:20, Graham Smith wrote:
> Liviu
> 
>> Have you tried to use \SweaveOpts{echo=T} for the with_code document,
>> and 'echo=F' for the document with no code? You can also use this
>> option on specific chunks as follows
>> 

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Liviu,

This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the 
SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still 
get the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the 
numerical output


However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the 
main text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.


All told this looks very good.

Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.

Graham

Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Liviu Andronic]

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Graham Smith
 wrote:
> Liviu,
>
> This shows some promise. The echo=T within the chunks overrides the
> SWeaveOpts command, and the although the code is suppressed you still get
> the output, which is fine for the figures but not for some of the numerical
> output
>
> However, this all looks promising as you could create objects in the main
> text (rather than output)and then put the output into the appendix.
>
> All told this looks very good.
>
Great. Let us know if you still have issues.
Liviu

> Many many thanks.  lyx seems to triumph again.
>
> Graham
>
>



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Re: SWeave and Lyx - managing the R code component

[Graham Smith]

Rainer


Well - you could open the LyX document in a text editor, and do a
search-replace, so that all chunks have the same option? Also something
I did in the past.


Yes, this is an option, but its an added complication I would rather avoid



Howver, I haven't tried it as an option in  the pre-amble. I
will give it a go.


If I remember correctly, I tried to set it in the preamble, but it was
overwritten again - so I put it into an ert block at the beginning of
the document and it was working.


I have it an ERT block at the beginning of the document, as it didn't 
seem to work in the pre-amble, but that was before I realised that the 
local echo=T were overrding the SWeaveOpt command. So I'm not sure now.


However, as I've said in another response I now seem to have the makings 
of someting that will work.


Thanks,

Graham

Re: looking for layout for MNRAS journal

[Piotr A. Dybczyński]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 21:43:43 +0200 Uwe Stöhr  wrote:

> Do you still need it or is it too late? I'm already working on another 
> layout file and could this way also write a layout file for MNRAS.

Yes, please!

When writing a scientific paper, urgent means a month or two ;-)

Thanks in advance,
Piotr

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pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[obregonmateo]

I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and when 
I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can see the 
preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot find the file 
it refers to. The error I get is:

Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.

However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on the 
resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex fiel, I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{article}


It seems as though lyx is generating a new file name but not the associated 
file.

Anyone know how to get pdfpages working again?

Mateo.

Re: pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 10.09.2010 16:20, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com:


I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and when 
I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can see the 
preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot find the file 
it refers to. The error I get is:

Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.

However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on the 
resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex fiel, I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{article}


The problem is that LyX cannot yet handle relative paths very well. 
Therefore try to specify the file with its absolute path.


regards Uwe

Re: Problem with Nick Mariette's thesis style

[Manolo Martínez]

I'm sorry, I spent quite a bit of time making classicthesis work in
ubuntu, but I'm afraid the experience is useless for Windows... You have
tried to download and install Bera from the TeX catalogue
(http://texcatalogue.sarovar.org/entries/bera.html), of course?

Manolo

El 10/09/10 10:49, Julio Rojas escribió:
> Nope Manolo, I'm on Win 7... Any idea? At least on how to get out of
> this problem with any other font? I tried changing the class file
> using another monospaced font, but it seems the problem comes from the
> rescaling of the font to the size desired. Removing this rescaling
> factor (.85) or setting it to one generates another type of error.
>
> Thanks for your help.
> -
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Manolo Martínez
>  wrote:
>   
>> If you are using *buntu, texlive-fonts-extra has the Bera family.
>>
>> Manolo
>>
>> El 09/09/10 21:14, Julio Rojas escribió:
>> 
>>> Dear all, while compiling the sample document for Nick Mariette's
>>> thesis style, I receive the following error at the end of the
>>> compilation process:
>>>
>>> !pdfTeX error: pdflatex (file fvmro8r): Font fvmro8r at 408 not found
>>>
>>> The thing is this font, which seemly belong to Bera, doesn't appear
>>> anywhere in the installation files. Does anybody know how to solve
>>> this problem. I would like to move to this style as soon as possible,
>>>
>>> Best regards.
>>> -
>>> Julio Rojas
>>> jcredbe...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>> 
>   

Re: Tables and more tables

[Todd Denniston]

John Coppens wrote, On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM:
> Hello people,
> 
> Two problems with tables:
> 
> 1) Scrolling:
> 
> When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes

> 
> I already disabled the automatic table toolbar. The toolbar made things
> worse by causing extra scrolling.
> 
> Is there any way to get a more predictable behaviour?
> 

If the toolbar is of use to you, I have found that "locking" it in made the 
situation better.
to lock it in...
get into some standard text
select View->Toolbars
select "Table (auto)"

If you look back in View->Toolbars it will show a check mark next to "Table 
(auto)", and the Table
toolbar will stay stuck on LyX User Interface until you undo the check mark, 
thus less random scrolling.

I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
Hope this helps some.
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane)
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter

Re: pdfpages in lyx not producing files

[obregonmateo]

On Friday 10 September 2010, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> Am 10.09.2010 16:20, schrieb obregonma...@gmail.com:
> 
> > I used to be able to include PDF pages into my lyx with with 
> > Insert|File|ExternalMaterial|pdfpages. However, something has changed and 
> > when I generate pdflatex output, it cannot find the file, even though I can 
> > see the preview out the PDF document in lyx. I look around and I cannot 
> > find the file it refers to. The error I get is:
> >
> > Package pdfpages error: Cannot find file `0_home_mateo_work_article'.
> >
> > However, if I export the lyx file with tex(pdflatex), I can run pdflatex on 
> > the resulting tex file and get the desired result. If I look at the tex 
> > fiel, I see:
> >
> > \includepdf[pages=-]{article}
> 
> The problem is that LyX cannot yet handle relative paths very well. 
> Therefore try to specify the file with its absolute path.

Thanks for your quick reply. I tried fully specifying the file name in the 
dpfpages dialogue box, but I get the same error message. I exported the lyx 
document to latex(pdflatex) and I looked at the \includepdf{} command. I see:

\includepdf[pages=-]{0_home_mateo_work_article}

which does not work because there is no file by this name.

Any more suggestions?

Should I regard this as a bug in v. 1.6.7 that is known about and therefore I 
shouldn't worry about filing a bug report?

Mateo.

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 15:53:28 -0400
Todd Denniston  wrote:

> I do this when I have a document in which I am doing a lot of table editing.
> Hope this helps some.

Great idea, Todd. Thanks

John

Re: Tables and more tables

[John Coppens]

On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 20:03:44 +0200
Uwe Stöhr  wrote:

> Am 09.09.2010 18:45, schrieb John Coppens:
> 
> > 1) Scrolling:
> >
> > When a table gets a bit large (mostly wide), scrolling becomes
> > unmanageable. No scrollbar is available to move the screen around,
> 
> This is a known problem. The situation will be much better in the next 
> major LyX version 2.0.

Thanks for the reply Uwe.

I'm not clear if the beta is stable enough to replace 1.6.7? 

> > 2) Table in table:
> >
> > I had to put a small table inside another table. The table borders are
> > touching, which isn't too aesthetic...
> 
> Insert some horizontal or vertical space if necessary. The 
> EmbeddedObkects manual that you find in LyX's Help emnu shows you many 
> examples how to do this. (Start with sec. 3.7 "Subfloats" and/or sec. 
> 2.12.1 "Row Spacing".)

I tried the suggestions in 2.12.1:
  I added 3 mm 'bottom of the row', but no difference came out in the
PDF (the screen did update, and to be sure I also clicked 'update' PDF).
DVI didn't show the space either.

3.7 mentions putting minipages... Tried that too. That made the
register tables go outside the outer table (to the right). Tried to
adjust sizes (as text %, as cm etc, but all tests gave unpredictable
results.

None of the tests allowed to add spacing below the inner table.

I also tested (as I commented in the previous mail), that inserting a
vertical space below the inner table actually works, but doesn't
communicate the new size to the outer table, so the bottom border of
the table row disappears.

It's a small document. If someone would like to have a go, I'll post
the LyX file.

Thanks!
John