RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
 in
 MiKTeX's
 bin folder

 No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
 window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
 newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
 But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

  but when I compile a document with multiple   indexes, I see only my text 
  and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

 and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

 Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 10:34, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've attached my test file.


Thanks. This file works fine here, so strange that it doesn't for you.


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the ImAgemagick 
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement this yet.



The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx folder?


Because as user you cannot write to HKLM in the registry.


I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems with image 
conversion.


This is because we used a self-compiled ImageMagick which doesn't require keys in HKLM. But this is 
no proper solution, because we would then not always up to date with the latest IM version. Moreover 
we should not fork programs if there are tiny problems but try to encourage the developers to fix this.
Check what version of IM you have in your 2.0.3 and what in the testing 2.0.4 and you see that yours 
is outdated (contains even security issues).



However, with this installer I have.


Give me some time.

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 8.6.2012 11:34, Rick Blok - LR wrote:
 I've attached my test file.
 
 Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
 admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my 
 lyx folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any 
 problems with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.
 
 Kind regards,
 Rick Blok
 
I just made a quick try with your test file.  Seems to be working all
right here.  I have Window$ XP SP3 and MikTeX 2.9 installed with admin
rights.

 - Juha

Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Horacio Pérez]

Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX? 

Re: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Richard Heck]

On 06/08/2012 01:17 PM, Horacio Pérez wrote:

Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX?

Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an 
enhancement request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this 
work.


rh

Re: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Ray Rashif]

On 9 June 2012 02:16, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 06/08/2012 01:17 PM, Horacio Pérez wrote:

 Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX?

 Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an enhancement
 request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this work.

But you'd be surprised what actually works. This normally should work
if you copy from an application that treats the image as an object,
i.e not from the desktop or file manager, or an image viewer.

In simple terms, copy image from file manager or desktop, paste in a
normal word processor, copy that, paste in LyX. This, of course, if
you don't wanna have to organise anything into your LyX project dir
for use when you click the insert image button.

Today I pasted a dozen images like that with 2 windows split side by
side, and LyX even allowed me to insert a sub-float, 2 by 2 forming a
4-image figure. Just amazing, or maybe my expectations were too low :D


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1

RE: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

From: Richard Heck [rgh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:16 PM

Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an
enhancement request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this
work.

There is an enhancement request already filed that has a patch:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4017

I haven't tested it and it looks to be forgotten, but I'm guessing there's a 
chance of seeing this feature in 2.1.

Scott

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

 If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
 in
 MiKTeX's
 bin folder

 No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
 window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
 newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
 But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

  but when I compile a document with multiple   indexes, I see only my text 
  and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

 and do you have a older named ~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib which
 contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?

 Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 10:34, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've attached my test file.


Thanks. This file works fine here, so strange that it doesn't for you.


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the ImAgemagick 
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement this yet.



The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx folder?


Because as user you cannot write to HKLM in the registry.


I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems with image 
conversion.


This is because we used a self-compiled ImageMagick which doesn't require keys in HKLM. But this is 
no proper solution, because we would then not always up to date with the latest IM version. Moreover 
we should not fork programs if there are tiny problems but try to encourage the developers to fix this.
Check what version of IM you have in your 2.0.3 and what in the testing 2.0.4 and you see that yours 
is outdated (contains even security issues).



However, with this installer I have.


Give me some time.

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 8.6.2012 11:34, Rick Blok - LR wrote:
 I've attached my test file.
 
 Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
 admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my 
 lyx folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any 
 problems with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.
 
 Kind regards,
 Rick Blok
 
I just made a quick try with your test file.  Seems to be working all
right here.  I have Window$ XP SP3 and MikTeX 2.9 installed with admin
rights.

 - Juha

Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Horacio Pérez]

Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX? 

Re: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Richard Heck]

On 06/08/2012 01:17 PM, Horacio Pérez wrote:

Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX?

Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an 
enhancement request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this 
work.


rh

Re: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Ray Rashif]

On 9 June 2012 02:16, Richard Heck rgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 On 06/08/2012 01:17 PM, Horacio Pérez wrote:

 Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX?

 Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an enhancement
 request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this work.

But you'd be surprised what actually works. This normally should work
if you copy from an application that treats the image as an object,
i.e not from the desktop or file manager, or an image viewer.

In simple terms, copy image from file manager or desktop, paste in a
normal word processor, copy that, paste in LyX. This, of course, if
you don't wanna have to organise anything into your LyX project dir
for use when you click the insert image button.

Today I pasted a dozen images like that with 2 windows split side by
side, and LyX even allowed me to insert a sub-float, 2 by 2 forming a
4-image figure. Just amazing, or maybe my expectations were too low :D


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1

RE: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

From: Richard Heck [rgh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:16 PM

Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an
enhancement request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this
work.

There is an enhancement request already filed that has a patch:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4017

I haven't tested it and it looks to be forgotten, but I'm guessing there's a 
chance of seeing this feature in 2.1.

Scott

RE: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Rick Blok - LR]

I've attached my test file.

Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx 
folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems 
with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.

Kind regards,
Rick Blok

-Original Message-
From: Uwe Stöhr [mailto:uwesto...@web.de] 
Sent: vrijdag 8 juni 2012 3:20
To: rickb...@gmail.com
Cc: Rick Blok - LR; lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Subject: Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

Am 06.06.2012 08:42, schrieb rickb...@gmail.com:

>> If still not working, could you give me a list of new files you see 
>> in
> MiKTeX's
>> bin folder
>
> No. I noticed that files were changed because I had the explorer 
> window open but it happened so fast I couldn't see which ones. The 
> newest date modified is of January, and newest date created of march. 
> But I've attached a list with all folder contents.

Thanks. It shows that the perl interpreter is no in place - this worked at 
least.

 >> but when I compile a document with multiple  >> indexes, I see only my text 
 >> and no indexes.

As the Perl interpreter is there, it can be that I need to deliver more of its 
plugins. To find this out, can you please send me your LyX test file?

> and do you have a older named "~\MiKTeX 2.9\miktex\lib" which
>> contains the subfolders Exporter, File, Getopt, IO and warnings?
>
> Yes, that I have. In my program files folder though, not in my home folder.

This is correct.

Note that the installer is not yet ready to be used without admin priviledges. 
There are still many open issues but I'm currently working on this.

thanks and regards
Uwe


nieuwbestand1.lyx
Description: nieuwbestand1.lyx

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 08.06.2012 10:34, schrieb Rick Blok - LR:


I've attached my test file.


Thanks. This file works fine here, so strange that it doesn't for you.


Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
admin rights?


Because it requires registry settings in HKLM. After discussing this with the ImAgemagick 
developers, they changs it but I haven't found the time to test and implement this yet.



The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my lyx folder?


Because as user you cannot write to HKLM in the registry.


I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any problems with image 
conversion.


This is because we used a self-compiled ImageMagick which doesn't require keys in HKLM. But this is 
no proper solution, because we would then not always up to date with the latest IM version. Moreover 
we should not fork programs if there are tiny problems but try to encourage the developers to fix this.
Check what version of IM you have in your 2.0.3 and what in the testing 2.0.4 and you see that yours 
is outdated (contains even security issues).



However, with this installer I have.


Give me some time.

regards Uwe

Re: testers needed for LyX\'s Windows installer

[Juha Meriluoto]

On 8.6.2012 11:34, Rick Blok - LR wrote:
> I've attached my test file.
> 
> Btw, what problems are there with Imagemagick when lyx is installed without 
> admin rights? The installer says that it can't install it, but it is in my 
> lyx folder? I installed lyx 203 w/o admin rights and I haven't got any 
> problems with image conversion. However, with this installer I have.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Rick Blok
> 
I just made a quick try with your test file.  Seems to be working all
right here.  I have Window$ XP SP3 and MikTeX 2.9 installed with admin
rights.

 - Juha

Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Horacio Pérez]

Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX? 

Re: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Richard Heck]

On 06/08/2012 01:17 PM, Horacio Pérez wrote:

Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX?

Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an 
enhancement request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this 
work.


rh

Re: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Ray Rashif]

On 9 June 2012 02:16, Richard Heck  wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 01:17 PM, Horacio Pérez wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible somehow to drag and drop image files to LyX?
>>
> Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an enhancement
> request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this work.

But you'd be surprised what actually works. This normally should work
if you copy from an application that treats the image as an object,
i.e not from the desktop or file manager, or an image viewer.

In simple terms, copy image from file manager or desktop, paste in a
normal word processor, copy that, paste in LyX. This, of course, if
you don't wanna have to organise anything into your LyX project dir
for use when you click the insert image button.

Today I pasted a dozen images like that with 2 windows split side by
side, and LyX even allowed me to insert a sub-float, 2 by 2 forming a
4-image figure. Just amazing, or maybe my expectations were too low :D


--
GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1

RE: Drag and drop image files to LyX

[Scott Kostyshak]

From: Richard Heck [rgh...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:16 PM

>Not at the moment, I don't think, though feel free to file an
>enhancement request. It probably wouldn't be all that hard to make this
>work.

There is an enhancement request already filed that has a patch:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4017

I haven't tested it and it looks to be forgotten, but I'm guessing there's a 
chance of seeing this feature in 2.1.

Scott