Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan]

I use a Lamy Safari with a European EF nib; it works just fine.  If I 
need a finer line, then I use a Pilot Petit 1 with a Japanese EF nib.


Seriously, though, folks.  I suggest that OT advocacies of OSs or of 
writing instruments or of sexual practices not provoke mass responses. 
 Look at what else has been posted that day; if no one tells the 
advocate that he is OT, then do so, and just let it go.


On 05/16/2018 04:30 AM, John Kane wrote:


Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS
https://www.gouletpens.com/namiki/c/483

On 16 May 2018 at 00:42, Baris Erkus > wrote:


On 15-May-18 10:15 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:


People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants? 
Well, here's a few reasons for you that apply to my case, Johnny

boy:

(1)  I work in a scientific field and a specific laboratory that
uses data analysis software for which there are only Windows
versions.  I used Linux exclusively prior to joining this lab. 
I'd rather not quit this job because of a Linux snobbery affliction.

(2)  Gaming.  I have a Windows machine at home because I like to
play modern video games.  Good luck trying to get them to run on
WINE, which is a cheat anyway if you're a Linux purist.
(3)  There's nothing wrong with having a dual boot Windows/Linux
system for the sake of convenience.  I'm not going to waste time
booting into Linux just to write scientific documents if I'm
already in Windows.

Jim

On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:03 PM, John White wrote:

Why are people still using Windows?  My firm gets along
without Gates just fine.

John White


So are we now getting into a good-old "which OS is better"
discussion

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 05/16/2018 04:55 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:
>
> I remember from a long while back - years ago - that the Lyx installer
> on Windows would ask you to point to the directory of your Latex
> distribution.  I think a good accommodation would be a message
> indicating that a Latex distribution has been identified (if one has),
> with a prompt asking users whether they'd like to use the detected
> distribution or if they'd like to point the installer to another.

In my limited testing, the installer does detect an exiting installation
and fills in that dialog for you, though it also gives you the option to
select a different directory (in case you had two installs and wanted to
use a different one).

Riki

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Jim Rockford]

I remember from a long while back - years ago - that the Lyx installer on
Windows would ask you to point to the directory of your Latex
distribution.  I think a good accommodation would be a message indicating
that a Latex distribution has been identified (if one has), with a prompt
asking users whether they'd like to use the detected distribution or if
they'd like to point the installer to another.



On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Julio Rojas  wrote:

> What I wanted to say is that the installer automatically gives the option
> to use/download/install Texlive. Is it possible?
>
>
>

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 05/16/2018 12:25 PM, Baris Erkus wrote:
> BTW, MikTeX seems to have another major update

My understanding is that the issue that led to the installer delay was
caused by a change to the way the packaging system works. The kind of
upgrade you're seeing shouldn't cause that kind of problem.

Riki

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Baris Erkus]

On 5/16/2018 5:58 PM, Julio Rojas wrote:
Not Free (as in Gratis), though... ;)

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:30 AM, John Kane 
> wrote:
Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS
https://www.gouletpens.com/namiki/c/483

On 16 May 2018 at 00:42, Baris Erkus 
> wrote:
On 15-May-18 10:15 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:

People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants?  Well, here's a 
few reasons for you that apply to my case, Johnny boy:

(1)  I work in a scientific field and a specific laboratory that uses data 
analysis software for which there are only Windows versions.  I used Linux 
exclusively prior to joining this lab.  I'd rather not quit this job because of 
a Linux snobbery affliction.
(2)  Gaming.  I have a Windows machine at home because I like to play modern 
video games.  Good luck trying to get them to run on WINE, which is a cheat 
anyway if you're a Linux purist.
(3)  There's nothing wrong with having a dual boot Windows/Linux system for the 
sake of convenience.  I'm not going to waste time booting into Linux just to 
write scientific documents if I'm already in Windows.

Jim


On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:03 PM, John White 
> wrote:
Why are people still using Windows?  My firm gets along without Gates just fine.

John White






So are we now getting into a good-old "which OS is better" discussion



--
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

BTW, MikTeX seems to have another major update

[cid:part6.C3E3F333.8995CAAF@hotmail.com]

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[Julio Rojas]

Not Free (as in Gratis), though... ;)

-
Julio Rojas
jcredbe...@gmail.com

On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 7:30 AM, John Kane  wrote:

> Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS
> https://www.gouletpens.com/namiki/c/483
>
> On 16 May 2018 at 00:42, Baris Erkus  wrote:
>
>> On 15-May-18 10:15 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:
>>
>>
>> People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants?  Well,
>> here's a few reasons for you that apply to my case, Johnny boy:
>>
>> (1)  I work in a scientific field and a specific laboratory that uses
>> data analysis software for which there are only Windows versions.  I used
>> Linux exclusively prior to joining this lab.  I'd rather not quit this job
>> because of a Linux snobbery affliction.
>> (2)  Gaming.  I have a Windows machine at home because I like to play
>> modern video games.  Good luck trying to get them to run on WINE, which is
>> a cheat anyway if you're a Linux purist.
>> (3)  There's nothing wrong with having a dual boot Windows/Linux system
>> for the sake of convenience.  I'm not going to waste time booting into
>> Linux just to write scientific documents if I'm already in Windows.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:03 PM, John White 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Why are people still using Windows?  My firm gets along without Gates
>>> just fine.
>>>
>>> John White
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> So are we now getting into a good-old "which OS is better" discussion
>>
>
>
>
> --
> John Kane
> Kingston ON Canada
>

Re: LyX 2.3.0 on Mac: Exporting to LaTeX (pdflatex) messes up paths to tables and figures

[Uwe Thuemmel]

I realised that the problem appears when I am using the knitr module (but not 
always). I now found a workaround which is to have an empty master document 
which does not contain the knitr module — and which then contains the actual 
document with the knitr module via \input.

I still need to construct a simple example to make the error reproducible.

@Joel: I think I had also experienced the error in earlier LyX versions.

Best, Uwe


On 16. May 2018 at 16:12:24, Dr Eberhard Lisse (nos...@lisse.na) wrote:

I don't have any issues with subdirectories.  

Can it be that the names are generic? Try using myfigures and mytables  
or something like that and see if this changes things.  

And, in any case there is always perl -i -p -e 's+\_+/*g' *.lyx or  
similar :-)-O  

el  


On 13/05/2018 22:55, Joel Kulesza wrote:  
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Uwe Thuemmel  > wrote:  
>  
> Dear fellow users,  
>  
> I have figures (as pdf) and tables (as LyX child documents) in  
> subdirectories ./figures and ./tables. When I export from LyX  
> 2.3.0 on Mac to LaTeX (pdflatex), the relative paths to these  
> figures and tables are messed up. In particular, they are  
> replaced by absolute paths where ‘/‘ is replaced by ‘_'. For  
> example, a relative path /figures/figure1.pdf is replaced by  
> something like 1_users_user_project_project1_figures_figure1.pdf.  
> In addition, LyX places pdf files with these names as  
> 1_users_user_project_project1_figures_figure1.pdf in the same  
> directory as the main LyX file (but does not do so for the tables  
> contained in LyX child documents). As a result, the TeX file does  
> not compile correctly and I have to edit it by hand to adjust the  
> paths. I’d much rather see LyX keep the relative paths when  
> exporting to LaTeX. Sometimes this actually works - but I don’t  
> know why. Can anyone help?  
>  
> Thank you,  
> Uwe  
>  
>  
> Uwe,  
>  
> I experienced something that may be similar on Mac. Are you able to  
> test also with LyX 2.2.3? In my case, LyX 2.2.3 would behave how I  
> expect but not LyX 2.3.0.  
>  
> Also, are you able to post a MWE  
>  that has the problem for  
> others to test with?  
>  
> Thanks,  
> Joel  
>  

Re: LyX 2.3.0 on Mac: Exporting to LaTeX (pdflatex) messes up paths to tables and figures

[Dr Eberhard Lisse]

I don't have any issues with subdirectories.

Can it be that the names are generic?  Try using myfigures and mytables
or something like that and see if this changes things.

And, in any case there is always perl -i -p -e 's+\_+/*g' *.lyx or
similar :-)-O

el


On 13/05/2018 22:55, Joel Kulesza wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Uwe Thuemmel  > wrote:
> 
> Dear fellow users,
> 
> I have figures (as pdf) and tables (as LyX child documents) in
> subdirectories ./figures and ./tables.  When I export from LyX
> 2.3.0 on Mac to LaTeX (pdflatex), the relative paths to these
> figures and tables are messed up.  In particular, they are
> replaced by absolute paths where ‘/‘ is replaced by ‘_'.  For
> example, a relative path /figures/figure1.pdf is replaced by
> something like 1_users_user_project_project1_figures_figure1.pdf.
> In addition, LyX places pdf files with these names as
> 1_users_user_project_project1_figures_figure1.pdf in the same
> directory as the main LyX file (but does not do so for the tables
> contained in LyX child documents).  As a result, the TeX file does
> not compile correctly and I have to edit it by hand to adjust the
> paths.  I’d much rather see LyX keep the relative paths when
> exporting to LaTeX. Sometimes this actually works - but I don’t
> know why.  Can anyone help?
> 
> Thank you,
> Uwe
> 
> 
> Uwe,
> 
> I experienced something that may be similar on Mac.  Are you able to
> test also with LyX 2.2.3?  In my case, LyX 2.2.3 would behave how I
> expect but not LyX 2.3.0.
> 
> Also, are you able to post a MWE
>  that has the problem for
> others to test with?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joel
> 

Re: The tortured release of 2.3.0 Windows binaries

[John Kane]

Well, for elegant, scientific writing one can not beat this OS
https://www.gouletpens.com/namiki/c/483

On 16 May 2018 at 00:42, Baris Erkus  wrote:

> On 15-May-18 10:15 PM, Jim Rockford wrote:
>
>
> People are still taunting about this like schoolyard infants?  Well,
> here's a few reasons for you that apply to my case, Johnny boy:
>
> (1)  I work in a scientific field and a specific laboratory that uses data
> analysis software for which there are only Windows versions.  I used Linux
> exclusively prior to joining this lab.  I'd rather not quit this job
> because of a Linux snobbery affliction.
> (2)  Gaming.  I have a Windows machine at home because I like to play
> modern video games.  Good luck trying to get them to run on WINE, which is
> a cheat anyway if you're a Linux purist.
> (3)  There's nothing wrong with having a dual boot Windows/Linux system
> for the sake of convenience.  I'm not going to waste time booting into
> Linux just to write scientific documents if I'm already in Windows.
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 11:03 PM, John White 
> wrote:
>
>> Why are people still using Windows?  My firm gets along without Gates
>> just fine.
>>
>> John White
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> So are we now getting into a good-old "which OS is better" discussion
>



-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada