Re: Squish Monstrous Formula

[Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan]

On 05/28/2018 10:03 AM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 05/27/2018 08:09 PM, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote:

On 05/25/2018 05:05 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

On 05/25/2018 07:02 PM, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote:


I've a very large block-displayed formula in one of my articles. 
Its presence is simply to exhibit the true complexity of an 
ostensible axiom in the system of another researcher.


The problem is that the formula is so large that it would be good 
to reduce the character sizes a bit, just to make it fit into a 
smaller space on the page.  Few if any readers will want to make a 
careful examination of the formula.


What (if such exists) is a straightforward way for me to reduce 
the character sizes in one and only one formula?


(I'm perfectly happy with red boxes. ;-) )


You can load the graphicx package and use the \scalebox command. 
Note that graphicx might already be loaded if you are incorporating 
graphics. If not, you can load it explicitly in the preamble. If 
you want the formula in display mode, you may have to use inline 
math and center the paragraph manually (as I did in the attached 
example). There might be a way to convince it to work with display 
math formulas, but I don't know how.


Paul


Thanks for that much!

I am going to want to find a way to make this work for display 
formulae, as the formula in question needs to be numbered. (That's 
actually why I want it to take a bit less space.)


I can just dump the problem in the lap of whoever does the final 
marking-up for the journal, but I'd rather have a solution in place.


Turns out that's surprisingly easy to do (modified example attached). 
Start a display formula as usual, and with the cursor in the (empty) 
formula do ctrl-M (or, I suppose, cmd-M on a Mac) to go into text mode 
inside the formula. Alternatively, you can type "\text{"; LyX will 
insert the closing brace automatically and put you in a text inset. In 
the nested inset, type or paste the scalebox stuff. Exit out one level 
(back to math mode) and insert the label.


Paul


Perfect!  Thank you!

What I did was cut-and-paste from the expression into a plaintext 
editor, nest the code between “\scalebox{0.8}{$” and “$}”, and then 
paste that back into the box.


It should be trivial — just a matter of replacing the scale factor — 
for the person doing the final markup to size the image to the needs 
of the journal.

Re: Loss of spell-check in some languages

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 08:38:30PM +, John Kane wrote:
> That got it, Scott.
> 
> I was thinking that LyX and AOO should be sharing the same spell-check
> dictionaries and they are not.
> 
> I installed the needed Hunsell dictionaries in /usr/share/hunspell and
> things look fine.

Great! I think this process could be made a little smoother. I remember
at some point I wanted to look into that.

By the way, would you mind bottom-posting (and in-line posting) on the
list, as according to the list netiquette? [1] Bottom-posting makes it
much easier to have a detailed conversation, and to see exactly what
points each part of your responses refers to.

Best,

Scott


[1]
https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ListNetiquette#replying
and
https://wiki.lyx.org/FAQ/ListNetiquette#tofu


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Re: Pleading Paper / TOC question

[John White]

On Monday, May 28, 2018 10:58:23 AM PDT Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2018, John White wrote:
> > I am not sure docs written in 2.3 can be opened in 2.2.2 and my staff uses
> > 2.2.2. When we are not so busy, I plan to update to latest lyx.
> 
> John,
> 
>This makes sense.
> 
> > Thank you. Lawlist's post is very good. It is what I use (see my original
> > post on Pleading Paper / TOC. It well prints any document that does not
> > have indexes. However, adding an index blows it up.
> 
>Perhaps the person who posted that solution has an idea of two about
> adding an index to the document.

Excellent suggestion.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich

Re: Pleading Paper / TOC question

[John White]

On Monday, May 28, 2018 10:20:22 AM PDT Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Mon, 28 May 2018, John White wrote:
> > I gave lyx  2.3. a try from debian stretch backports and the results are
> > the same, so I went back to 2.2.2 (for a while).
> 
> John,
> 
>Why not continue with 2.3.0? You're no better off with an earlier
I am not sure docs written in 2.3 can be opened in 2.2.2 and my staff uses 
2.2.2.  When we are not so busy, I plan to update to latest lyx.


> version.
> > What I am planning to do, if all else fails, is print the document, or
> > parts of it, on blank pleading paper with numbers already printed down the
> > left hand side. Lyx prints the indexes (table of contents, table of
> > authorities, table of statutes, etc,) very well.
> 
>Have you seen this solution
> ?

Thank you.  Lawlist's post is very good.  It is what I use (see my original 
post on Pleading Paper / TOC.  It well prints any document that does not have 
indexes.  However, adding an index blows it up.
> 
>I thought there were several lyx layouts for legal documents as the need
> has been expressed on the maillist several times over the past couple of
> decades.

Probably some from me. Jurgen gave me some tips on indexing a couple of years 
back.  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Rich
John

Re: Loss of spell-check in some languages

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 05:51:20PM +, John Kane wrote:
> I have run into a spell-check problem.
> 
> I have, relatively recently, done a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 16.04 and
> I seem to have lost the ability to spell-check in French and Russian with
> my "new" LyX 2.3.0 installation.
> 
> My normal working dictionary is "English-Canadian". I have tried using both
> Enchant and Hunpell dictionaries. Both work with English and ignore entries
> in French and Russian.
> 
> I seem to have working dictionaries installed as spell-check in all three
> 
> I am assuming I have missed something simple, perhaps I need to set a path,
> but some googling has not helped.

Hi John,

Did you by chance back up your LyX user directory? (by default located
in ~/.lyx) It might have some useful preferences set.

If not, you might need to change the path to "Hunspell dictionaries" in
Tools > Preferences > Paths. Are the Russian and French dictionary files
located in the same directory as the English ones?

Scott


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Loss of spell-check in some languages

[John Kane]

I have run into a spell-check problem.

I have, relatively recently, done a complete reinstall of Ubuntu 16.04 and
I seem to have lost the ability to spell-check in French and Russian with
my "new" LyX 2.3.0 installation.

My normal working dictionary is "English-Canadian". I have tried using both
Enchant and Hunpell dictionaries. Both work with English and ignore entries
in French and Russian.

I seem to have working dictionaries installed as spell-check in all three

I am assuming I have missed something simple, perhaps I need to set a path,
but some googling has not helped.


-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: Pleading Paper / TOC question

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 28 May 2018, John White wrote:


I am not sure docs written in 2.3 can be opened in 2.2.2 and my staff uses
2.2.2. When we are not so busy, I plan to update to latest lyx.


John,

  This makes sense.


Thank you. Lawlist's post is very good. It is what I use (see my original
post on Pleading Paper / TOC. It well prints any document that does not
have indexes. However, adding an index blows it up.


  Perhaps the person who posted that solution has an idea of two about
adding an index to the document.

Regards,

Rich

Re: Where is the Plain-TeX IRC channel and mailing list?

[Cris Fuhrman]

Hi Steve - I don't have a direct answer to your question about IRC, but
there is a TeX Stack Exchange, which has chat. There have been some Eplain
questions/answers in the past (I'm not a TeX expert):
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/eplain

Cheers,

C. Fuhrman

On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Steve Litt 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I frequently need help on plain TeX, **NOT** on LaTeX or ConTeXT. 95 %
> of the web's docs retrieved by a search on "plain tex" are really
> about LaTeX. From my research on the web, there are maybe 10 docs on
> Plain TeX or Eplain (I'm using Eplain too),  and those docs are
> insufficient to tell you how to achieve simple things.
>
> I'm sorry to have to ask this here. Twice I've asked on Freenode
> #latex, and twice nobody answered.
>
> Thanks,
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
> June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
>
>
>

Re: Pleading Paper / TOC question

[Rich Shepard]

On Mon, 28 May 2018, John White wrote:


I gave lyx  2.3. a try from debian stretch backports and the results are the
same, so I went back to 2.2.2 (for a while).


John,

  Why not continue with 2.3.0? You're no better off with an earlier version.


What I am planning to do, if all else fails, is print the document, or
parts of it, on blank pleading paper with numbers already printed down the
left hand side. Lyx prints the indexes (table of contents, table of
authorities, table of statutes, etc,) very well.


  Have you seen this solution
?

  I thought there were several lyx layouts for legal documents as the need
has been expressed on the maillist several times over the past couple of
decades.

Regards,

Rich

Re: Pleading Paper / TOC question

[John White]

On Monday, May 28, 2018 5:50:00 AM PDT Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2018, John White wrote:
> > ps I use lyx 2.2.2 on debian stretch
> 
> John,
> 
>The current version (at least here on Slackware) is 2.3.0. Can you give
> that a try and see if you get desired results?
> 
> Rich

Thanks Rich,

I gave lyx  2.3. a try from debian stretch backports and the results are the 
same, so I went back to 2.2.2 (for a while).
What I am planning to do, if all else fails, is print the document, or parts 
of it, on blank pleading paper with numbers already printed down the left hand 
side.  Lyx prints the indexes (table of contents, table of authorities, table 
of statutes, etc,) very well.  

John

Re: Squish Monstrous Formula

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 05/27/2018 08:09 PM, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote:

On 05/25/2018 05:05 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


On 05/25/2018 07:02 PM, Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan wrote:


I've a very large block-displayed formula in one of my articles.  
Its presence is simply to exhibit the true complexity of an 
ostensible axiom in the system of another researcher.


The problem is that the formula is so large that it would be good to 
reduce the character sizes a bit, just to make it fit into a smaller 
space on the page.  Few if any readers will want to make a careful 
examination of the formula.


What (if such exists) is a straightforward way for me to reduce the 
character sizes in one and only one formula?


(I'm perfectly happy with red boxes. ;-) )


You can load the graphicx package and use the \scalebox command. Note 
that graphicx might already be loaded if you are incorporating 
graphics. If not, you can load it explicitly in the preamble. If you 
want the formula in display mode, you may have to use inline math and 
center the paragraph manually (as I did in the attached example). 
There might be a way to convince it to work with display math 
formulas, but I don't know how.


Paul


Thanks for that much!

I am going to want to find a way to make this work for display 
formulae, as the formula in question needs to be numbered. (That's 
actually why I want it to take a bit less space.)


I can just dump the problem in the lap of whoever does the final 
marking-up for the journal, but I'd rather have a solution in place.
Turns out that's surprisingly easy to do (modified example attached). 
Start a display formula as usual, and with the cursor in the (empty) 
formula do ctrl-M (or, I suppose, cmd-M on a Mac) to go into text mode 
inside the formula. Alternatively, you can type "\text{"; LyX will 
insert the closing brace automatically and put you in a text inset. In 
the nested inset, type or paste the scalebox stuff. Exit out one level 
(back to math mode) and insert the label.


Paul



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Re: Pleading Paper / TOC question

[Rich Shepard]

On Sun, 27 May 2018, John White wrote:


ps I use lyx 2.2.2 on debian stretch


John,

  The current version (at least here on Slackware) is 2.3.0. Can you give
that a try and see if you get desired results?

Rich