Re: Help with infrastructure (PHP)

[John White]

Paval,

I don't know enough to help you but just sent a donation to the tex user's 
group which I gather 
is a donation to lyx.

John

On Tuesday, March 5, 2024 10:57:37 AM PST Pavel Sanda wrote:
> Dear LyX community,
> 
> we are transitioning our www/wiki/trac services present on the web to a new
> infrastructure which unfortunately includes tweaks to port the underlying
> code to more current php version (version 8). Most of trivial changes are
> done, but there are few remaining bits which are not trivial for us, poor
> C++ LyX devs - but might be trivial for someone whose deaily bread involves
> php(/pmwiki) programming.
> 
> In case some kind soul would willing to help little bit, please contact me
> directly.
> 
> Thanks for the LyX team,
> Pavel

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Re: 14.4 font

[John White]

Thanks everybody.

I don't see much difference but I think I slightly prefer the Koma Script font, 
so I plan to use 
that.

John

On Monday, March 4, 2024 4:11:27 AM PST Herbert Voss wrote:
> Eberhard W Lisse schrieb:
> > In LyX,
> > 
> > Document -> Settings -> Document Class -> Document Class
> > 
> > select
> > 
> > KOMA-Script Article
> > 
> > then in same screen, ie
> > 
> > Document -> Settings -> Document Class -> Custom
> > 
> > put
> > 
> > 15 pt
> 
> That is a hidden feature of KOMA-Script, the correct
> Way is fontsize =…
> 
> Herbert
> 
> > klick
> > 
> > Ok
> > 
> > and then generate (view) the PDF as ususal.
> > 
> > greetings, el
> > 
> > On 2024-03-04 05:24, Herbert Voss wrote:
> > [...]
> > 
> >> However, for KOMAScript you can simply use
> >> 
> >> fontsize=14pt
> >> 
> >> as class option.
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
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Re: 14.4 font

[John White]

Thanks Doc,

I suspect you prefer Koma Script fonts?  However on my system I do not see a 
way to get to 14 
font in Koma Script Article.  

John

On Sunday, March 3, 2024 9:15:02 AM PST Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> I was in transit (to Puerto Rico) and would have suggested to use the
> Koma Script Article.
> 
> el
> 
> On 2024-03-02 23:39, John White wrote:
> > Thanks much Scott!  Works perfectly.
> > 
> > 
> > John
> 
> > On Saturday, March 2, 2024 6:18:23 PM PST Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> [...]
> 
> >> Go to Document > Settings > Document Class and change it to
> 
> "Article>> (Standard Class with Extra Font Sizes)". Then when you click
> on the
> 
> >> "Fonts" tab, you will see additional entries under "Base size".
> 
> [...[

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Re: 14.4 font

[John White]

Thanks much Scott!  Works perfectly.

John

On Saturday, March 2, 2024 6:18:23 PM PST Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 02, 2024 at 03:46:51PM -0800, John White wrote:
> > Hi Doc,
> > 
> > I am doing a brief to a court that requires
> > minimum font size of 14.4 but can't seem to get
> > lyx 2.3.6 to print larger than 12 font.  I use article
> > (standard class). Any suggestions?
> 
> Go to Document > Settings > Document Class and change it to "Article
> (Standard Class with Extra Font Sizes)". Then when you click on the
> "Fonts" tab, you will see additional entries under "Base size".
> 
> Scott

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14.4 font

[John White]

Hi Doc,

I am doing a brief to a court that requires 
minimum font size of 14.4 but can't seem to get 
lyx 2.3.6 to print larger than 12 font.  I use article 
(standard class). Any suggestions?  
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Re: Strange Pacer Question

[John White]

I don't think so.  What I am looking into is this:  Pacer will only accept pdf 
files. If those who 
export to pdf from within a word document don't have to "flatten" the document 
before 
uploading to Pacer, while those who use lyx are forced to flatten any document 
imported from a 
Word doc before uploading to Pacer, I want to let the Pacer folks know this and 
suggest that 
Pacer not default to Word.  

Word is so dominant that even in Nevada State Courts we are required to convert 
any editable 
document to Word before the judge will even look at it. If there must be a 
standard here, I think 
it should be an open source standard.  Courts should not be in the business of 
requiring 
everyone to use Word (or any other proprietary product).

John 

On Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:08:18 PM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Ever looked at Pandoc?
> 
> el
> 
> On 28/12/2023 21:57, Rich Shepard wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > When I have a .doc/.docx file sent that I want to
> > incorporate into a LyX document I'll do either of two
> > things:
> > 
> > 1.  Highlight the desired text in the Word document then use
> > Edit -> Paste Special -> Join Lines to put it in the LyX
> > doc.
> > 
> > 2.  [...]  If it's a .doc/.docx file I load it in
> > LibreOffice Writer then save as a text file before inserting
> > it.
> > 
> > Since your LyX document is set to include line numbers I
> > think these actions would work for you.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Rich

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Re: Strange Pacer Question

[John White]

Hi el,

If I get a Word doc, it opens in libreoffice, which allows for export to pdf.  
If I recall, I generally 
either highlight the words involved while in libreoffice and paste directly to 
lyx or instead export 
to pdf, highlight the relevant portions of the pdf and paste to lyx. 

It took me forever to get the ps2pdf right (so it would become pleading paper, 
with a vertical 
line followed by line numbers to the left of the page.  When I use anything 
else I have to load 
pleading paper and use that.

I plan to try your PDF5 trick this weekend.

John

On Thursday, December 28, 2023 2:04:54 PM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> John,
> 
> did you ever try to export using PDF5 (LuaLaTeX)?
> 
> Recent PSTricks should load
> https://github.com/zauguin/luapstricks when using LuaLaTeX. If
> that works for the "normal" way try and upload into Pacer and
> see what happens. If Pacer accepts that see what happens when
> you import a Word document and generate the PDF with LuaLaTeX.
> 
> How do you "import" Word documents?
> 
> el
> 
> On 28/12/2023 21:28, John White wrote:
> [...]
> 
> > Normally, I just do regular lyx stuff and once the file is
> > ready, export with pst2pdf (to insure that line numbers
> > exist at the left side of each page) and upload to Pacer.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > To file in Pacer, the document must be "flattened."  This poses no
> > problem with files created in lyx.  However, whenever I import a Word
> > file and convert it to lyx, Pacer balks and refuses to accept the
> > document unless I "flatten" it.
> 
> [...]

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Re: Strange Pacer Question

[John White]

I use lyx 2.3.6 on my debian (bullseye) system  I often file in Pacer, the 
database used by the US 
federal court system.  Normally, I just do regular lyx stuff and once the file 
is ready, export with 
pst2pdf (to insure that line numbers exist at the left side of each page) and 
upload to Pacer.  

HOWEVER, I often get files from other attorneys who use microsoft Word, which I 
import into lyx 
and reformat. 

To file in Pacer, the document must be "flattened."  This poses no problem with 
files created in 
lyx.  However, whenever I import a Word file and convert it to lyx, Pacer balks 
and refuses to 
accept the document unless I "flatten" it.  If  I am at the office, I "flatten" 
it  by printing out the 
lyx document and, using the copier, scan it back to me.  I then can upload that 
scanned file to 
pacer.  If I am at home, I "flatten" it by using "$ pdf2ps orig.pdf - | ps2pdf 
- flattened.pdf", which 
usually works.

Pacer itself uses Microsoft Word and brags about it incessantly.  

My question is this:  Do those who use Microsoft Word also have to "flatten" 
files before filing in 
the federal courts or does Pacer just accept Microsoft Word files "as is"?  If 
so, there might be 
some sort of anti-trust implications in all this.

John White Jr.

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Re: Debian 12

[John White]

Me too (using Debian for more than 20 years).  My lyx problem is new and 
surfaced after we upgraded to Debian 12.  However I am not sure the upgrade 
had anything to do with it.

On Friday, October 27, 2023 2:43:22 AM PDT Eckhard Höffner wrote:
> There are methods, to install both (use your home or /usr/local).  The
> system will prefer your home or /usr/local installation.  However, on
> debian, you can install texlive-full and you will get everything,
> including all the language, fonts, format and other files you'll never
> need,
> 
> In general, there are no issues with debian, and I am using it for more
> than twenty years.
> 
> Am 27.10.23 um 07:24 schrieb Steve Litt:
> > John White said on Thu, 26 Oct 2023 09:02:44 -0700
> > 
> >> We recently updated the three computers used by staff to Debian 12.
> >> My computer is still Debian 11.
> > 
> > My personal opinion is it's much better to install texlive from the TUG
> > website rather than from your distro, because you can get everything
> > related to texlive at the TUG website. And whatever you do, never, EVER
> > install texlive from both TUG and your distro.
> > 
> > SteveT
> > 
> > Steve Litt
> > 
> > Autumn 2023 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century
> > http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21



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Re: Debian 12

[John White]

Thanks Ecljard and Rich,

I have forwarded your input to our IT guy and will let you know what he says. 
He thinks there may be problems other than pstricks.sty. Before calling him I 
loaded every texlive program available on synaptic (except full) and 
reconfigured lyx and that didn't help.

John

On Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:21:26 AM PDT Eckhard Höffner wrote:
> Well, the file is here:
> 
> kpsewhich pstricks.sty
> 
> /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tes/latex/pstricks
> 
> and part of the package texlive-pstricks.
> 
> If the package is installed, there must be another problem.
> 
> Am 26.10.23 um 18:02 schrieb John White:
> > We recently updated the three computers used by staff to Debian 12.  My
> > computer is still Debian 11.
> > 
> > Though mine still works fine, none of the updated computers will generate
> > pdfs. They all show an error to the effect that it can't find
> > pstricks.sty.
> > 
> > Our IT guy is here now trying to fix it but I thought a quick email to
> > this
> > site might produce some helpful comments.
> > 
> > John



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Debian 12

[John White]

We recently updated the three computers used by staff to Debian 12.  My 
computer is still Debian 11.  

Though mine still works fine, none of the updated computers will generate pdfs. 
 
They all show an error to the effect that it can't find pstricks.sty.

Our IT guy is here now trying to fix it but I thought a quick email to this 
site might produce some helpful comments.

John


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Re: bottom posting question

[John White]

Great idea.

John

On Thursday, April 27, 2023 3:16:27 PM PDT Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 4/27/23 17:55, John White wrote:
> > I use lyx exclusively in my law practice.  I like this list but find
> > reading through the lyx posts in order to get to the bottom tiring. 
> > Perhaps,while sticking to bottom posting, the sender of a replying
> > email should be encouraged to delete a portion of the prior text no
> > longer necessary, keeping enough to maintain context? This would speed
> > up browsing by those lurking around (like me) without violating the
> > bottom posting requirement.
> 
> Yes, I agree that it's good list etiquette to delete bits one doesn't
> need. I tend to favor Ctrl-End, though, when reading the list, and
> that's usually pretty quick.
> 
> Riki

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bottom posting question

[John White]

I use lyx exclusively in my law practice.  I like this list but find reading 
through the lyx posts in order to get to the bottom tiring.  
Perhaps,while sticking to bottom posting, the sender of a replying 
email should be encouraged to delete a portion of the prior text no 
longer necessary, keeping enough to maintain context? This would 
speed up browsing by those lurking around (like me) without violating 
the bottom posting requirement.

Frankly, I almost always read posts by Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
 as he doesn't usually bottom post and is very lyx-
knowledgeable.

John
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Re: Screen font question-inline

[John White]

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 11:45:35 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> ok, than we'll move to the deep stuff :-)-O
> 
> I don't have Debian, but on my Mac there is a ~/.lyx directory where
> there is a file called lyxrc which has, in my case,
> 
>   \screen_font_roman "Noto Serif"
>   \screen_font_sans "Noto Sans"
>   \screen_font_typewriter "Noto Sans Mono"
> 
> so you want end LyX, then locate the file and change that to read
> something like
> 
>   \screen_font_roman "DejaVu Serif"
>   \screen_font_sans "DejaVu Sans"
>   \screen_font_typewriter "Hack"
> 
> and then start LyX again and see what that does.
> 
> el

Its already set to the Dejavu fonts.  I vote to leave this alone as alt + or 
alt - while editing 
a lyx doc is all I need. If I had known about the alt adjustments, I would not 
have posted 
in the first place.

Thanks again,

John

John
> 
> On 20/04/2023 20:27, John White wrote:
> > Thank for the suggestion. I can move window left and right, but not up
> > or down. The little move icon shows, but I can't reach the bottom edge.
> > 
> > On Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:55:34 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >> Drag on a lateral edge of the window to move it, then make it narrower
> >> 
> >> and do same on the top (or bottom) edge.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> el

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Re: Screen font question-inline

[John White]

Thank for the suggestion. I can move window left and right, but 
not up or down. The little move icon shows, but I can't reach the 
bottom edge.

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:55:34 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse 
wrote:
> Drag on a lateral edge of the window to move it, then make it 
narrower
> and do same on the top (or bottom) edge.
> 
> el

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Re: Screen font question-inline

[John White]

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 8:27:02 AM PDT Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 4/19/23 13:44, John White wrote:
> > I hope Mr. Hoffner is right but I know of no way to make my screen
> > larger. I can't figure that out.
> > 
> > On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:34:09 AM PDT Eckhard Höffner wrote:
> > > Actually you are missing the buttom of the window. Maybe your screen is
> > > 
> > > to small. Mine is 1150px high (attached).
> 
> A couple of things you might try with the dialog:
> 
>  1. if the dialog is opening maximized (full screen), try clicking the
> middle button in the upper right corner to toggle it from full
> screen to windowed; and

Assuming I understand and followed instructions, this did not help.  Screen 
gets smaller 
but shows same thing.

>  2. if it is windowed (not maximized) and you still can't see the
> buttons, try grabbing the upper edge or top left corner with the
> mouse and resizing it.
> 
> On my system, you can stretch or shrink the dialog window up to a point,
> but there is a minimum size below which you cannot go.

Not sure I understand "windowed" but nothing I do allows me to see the buttons.

Again, Alt + or Alt - while in the lyx document being edited, works great.  I 
have no need 
to fix it in Preferences.

Thanks to you and Doc for your help.

John
> 
> Paul

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Re: Screen font question-inline

[John White]

Thanks Pavel (and Doc - last email),

Nothing I do seems to make the screen larger (or smaller) while on the 
screen-fonts 
page in Preferences. I will try again upon receiving further (and more 
specific) 
instructions.

However, now that I know about (Alt - and Alt +) while in the lyx document, I 
am a happy 
camper and have no need to change screen fonts in Preferences.

John

On Thursday, April 20, 2023 3:13:31 AM PDT Pavel Sanda wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:44:42AM -0700, John White wrote:
> > I hope Mr. Hoffner is right but I know of no way to make
> > my screen larger. I can't figure that out.
> 
> Indeed it looks your screen is too small to show the whole dialog.
> It will be even worse with 2.4 and we should perhaps do something about it.
> 
> Anyway for the moment, even though you don't see the buttons you should
> still be able to use them via accelerators, i.e. for OK button you need
> to press Alt+O.
> 
> Does it help with saving your preferences?
> 
> Pavel

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Re: Screen font question-inline

[John White]

I hope Mr. Hoffner is right but I know of no way to make 
my screen larger. I can't figure that out.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:34:09 AM PDT Eckhard 
Höffner wrote:
> Actually you are missing the buttom of the window. 
Maybe your screen is
> to small. Mine is 1150px high (attached).

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Re: Screen font question

[John White]

On Lyx, my screen font window does not show an "Apply to current session only" 
dialog.  
Nor does it show any way to save the changes.

John

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 3:42:29 PM PDT Eckhard Höffner wrote:
> Am 18.04.23 um 18:19 schrieb John White:
> > I don't see a  "Apply to current session only" warning. However I can
> > write to the preferences file.
> 
> Strange. I have the German UI, however the translation shall be ok.
> 
> Tools>Preferences>look>screen fonts
> You can choose the fonts serif, sans & mono (drop down menu).
> Next several options for the size (UI only).
> And there is a bottom line with a check box ("Apply to current session
> only"), next to some buttons "OK | Apply | Dismiss".

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Re: Screen font question

[John White]

Thanks Paul,

I don't see a  "Apply to current session only" warning. However I can write to 
the 
preferences file. 

However, I learned that while the lyx doc is open, ALT + or Alt - works great, 
so I will just 
do that until I figure out the problem (which is there is no "save" option on 
the screen 
when adjusting screen fonts).

John

On Monday, April 17, 2023 7:35:43 PM PDT Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 4/17/23 19:53, John White wrote:
> > I can change screen fonts (lyx 2.3.6 running on Debian) by
> > Tools>Preferences>look>screen fonts. BUT I CAN'T SAVE THE
> > SETTINGS AS CHANGED.  Lyx always reverts to the font size it was in
> > before I made the change.  Suggestions?
> 
> First thing: Before clicking OK in the fonts dialog, make sure that
> "Apply to current session only" is not checked.
> 
> Second thing: LyX will try to write the changes to its preferences file
> (in the "screen & fonts" section). On Ubuntu and Mint, that file is
> ~/.lyx/preferences. I suspect it's the same on Debian, but if in doubt
> check Help > About LyX for the user directory. If LyX can't write to
> that file due to a permissions issue, the changes would not get saved.
> 
> Paul

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Screen font question

[John White]

I can change screen fonts (lyx 2.3.6 running on 
Debian) by 
Tools>Preferences>look>screen fonts. 
BUT I CAN'T SAVE THE SETTINGS AS CHANGED.  
Lyx always reverts to the font size it was in 
before I made the change.  Suggestions?
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Re: csv2lyx.py throwing an error

[John White]

Go linux 

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 3:38:24 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have tried to File -> Import -> Table (CSV) a small CSV file
> into a LyX document and receive an error, which I can reproduce
> from the command line for Python 3.9 3.10 and 3.11.2 (my default)
> like so:
> 
>   python -tt /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/scripts/
csv2lyx.py
> i.csv i.lyx
> 
> always yielding this error:
> 
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Resources/scripts/csv2lyx.py",
> line 171, in 
>   input_file = "".join(open(infile,'rU').readlines())
>
^
>   ValueError: invalid mode: 'rU'
> 
> This is on my spanking new M2 Airbook MacOs 13.2.1 and the MacTeX
> 2023 as well as on my Intel iMac.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea what to do about this?
> 
> greetings, el

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Re: More space for document

[John White]

I disagree.  I think we should do it tomorrow.

Dad

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:20:47 PM PST Paul Stansell wrote:
> > On 1/13/23 15:04, Stephen Buonopane wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
> > https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface
> > 
> > It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just
> > editing some text files.
> > 
> > Yes, that's right. It's all text files.
> > 
> > Short version: Copy the toolbars file from LYXLIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc to
> > HOMELIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc, then edit that file. Here, LYXLIB is your
> > 'system library' directory and USERLIB is the user library. Both of these
> > can be found from Help> About LyX. The local file will then be loaded
> > instead of the system file. The syntax should be relatively clear. Ask if
> > not. See Help> LyX Functions for all the different functions you can
> > assign
> > to buttons, etc.
> > 
> > You can both modify the standard toolbars this way and create new
> > toolbars. You can also do this with menus (stdmenus.inc) and context menus
> > (stdcontext.inc).
> > 
> > Riki
> 
> Riki,
> 
> Just to say that I finally got around to creating a custom toolbar.  I was
> very straightforward.  Thanks for explaining it.
> 
> Paul

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Re: More space for document

[John White]

Please ignore my "I disagree" email. It was copied to you by mistake.

John

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:14:30 PM PST John White wrote:
> I disagree.  I think we should do it tomorrow.
> 
> Dad
> 
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:20:47 PM PST Paul Stansell wrote:
> > > On 1/13/23 15:04, Stephen Buonopane wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
> > > https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface
> > > 
> > > It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just
> > > editing some text files.
> > > 
> > > Yes, that's right. It's all text files.
> > > 
> > > Short version: Copy the toolbars file from LYXLIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc to
> > > HOMELIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc, then edit that file. Here, LYXLIB is your
> > > 'system library' directory and USERLIB is the user library. Both of
> > > these
> > > can be found from Help> About LyX. The local file will then be loaded
> > > instead of the system file. The syntax should be relatively clear. Ask
> > > if
> > > not. See Help> LyX Functions for all the different functions you can
> > > assign
> > > to buttons, etc.
> > > 
> > > You can both modify the standard toolbars this way and create new
> > > toolbars. You can also do this with menus (stdmenus.inc) and context
> > > menus
> > > (stdcontext.inc).
> > > 
> > > Riki
> > 
> > Riki,
> > 
> > Just to say that I finally got around to creating a custom toolbar.  I was
> > very straightforward.  Thanks for explaining it.
> > 
> > Paul

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Re: top tool bar not available FIXED

[John White]

On Friday, December 23, 2022 1:18:00 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 12/22/22 16:34, John White wrote:
> > Paul,
> > 

I have deleted most of this reply as bottom posting does not show. I email only 
to 
thank Paul for his help and to let him know that I fixed it by completely 
deleting lyx 
and reinstalling it.

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Re: top tool bar not available FIXED

[John White]

On Friday, December 23, 2022 1:18:00 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 12/22/22 16:34, John White wrote:
> > Paul,
> > 
> > I hope this bottom posted email goes.  If not perhaps I am somehow
> > maxing out memory.
> > 
> > 
> > alt+T gives nothing, but perhaps something here might give you a clue
> > as to my problem:
> > 
> > 
> > johwhi@whitelaw:~$ cd /usr/share/lyx/ui
> > 
> > johwhi@whitelaw:/usr/share/lyx/ui$ ls
> > 
> > default.ui stdcontext.inc  stdmenus.inc  stdtoolbars.inc
> > 
> > johwhi@whitelaw:/usr/share/lyx/ui$
> > 
> > 
> > I am attaching my default.ui file in case that shows something. It shows:
> > 
> > 
> > Toolbars
> > 
> > "standard" "on,top"
> > 
> > "view/update" "on,top"
> > 
> > "extra" "on,top,samerow"
> > 
> > "review" "auto,review,top"
> > 
> > "vcs" "off,top"
> > 
> > "table" "auto,table,bottom"
> > 
> > "math_panels" "auto,math,bottom"
> > 
> > "math" "auto,math,bottom"
> > 
> > "mathmacrotemplate" "auto,mathmacrotemplate,bottom"
> > 
> > "ipa" "auto,ipa,bottom"
> > 
> > "minibuffer" "auto,minibuffer,bottom"
> > 
> > "documentation" "off,top"
> > 
> > End
> > 
> > 
> > Any other suggestions are appreciated. I wonder if perhaps something
> > might be wrong with my computer.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > John
> 
> I want to make sure we are on the same page about one key thing: what
> you are missing is the main /menu bar/ (File menu etc.), not the top
> /tool bar/, correct?
> 
> The toolbars section of default.ui controls which toolbars display by
> default. Earlier in the default.ui file, you'll see a line saying
> 'Include "stdmenus.inc"'. That loads the file that controls menus, and
> you can see in the "ls" output that it is present in the directory.
> 
> Check that the directory ~/.lyx/ui is empty. If not, you may have a
> broken UI file be loaded in preference to the default one.
> 
> Assuming that's not the case, try running LyX from a terminal with the
> command "lyx -dbg init". There will be a pile of messages in the
> terminal window. In particular, you should see the following (or
> something very close):
> 
> frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (3058): About to read default...
> frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (3108): Found default in
> /usr/share/lyx/ui/default.ui
> frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (3058): About to read stdmenus.inc...
> frontends/qt4/GuiApplication.cpp (3108): Found stdmenus.inc in
> /usr/share/lyx/ui/stdmenus.inc
> 
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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:47:19 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 12/21/22 15:29, John White wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:16:22 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > On 12/21/22 14:29, John White wrote:
> > > > Thank you Paul very much for the suggestion.  It caused me to think
> > > > 
> > > > that something might be wrong with permissions.  So I opened lyx in
> > > > 
> > > > root and the top tool bar shows.  It only doesn't show when I open it
> > > > 
> > > > on a regular, non-root command line or from the lyx icon.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure where the system menu is.  Lyx can be used without the
> > > > 
> > > > top menu bar but it will only print to one pdf version.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:09:52 AM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > > > On 12/19/22 14:44, John White wrote:
> > > > > > So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian
> > 
> > bullfrog
> > 
> > > > > > system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > /usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX
> > 
> > document.
> > 
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you launching LyX from a terminal or from the system menu.
> > 
> > If the
> > 
> > > > > menu, try editing the system menu entry. I would not be
> > 
> > surprised if it
> > 
> > > > > somehow ended up using the command "lyx /usr/share/.../lyx.desktop",
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > which would launch LyX and try to open the desktop file as a
> > 
> > document.
> > 
> > > > > Paul
> > > 
> > > John,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Please bottom-post on stuff going to the list.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There are two different pathologies here (likely unrelated), the missing
> > > 
> > > top toolbar and the "not readable" error message referring to the
> > > 
> > > desktop file. My comment about the system menu was related to the
> > > 
> > > latter. I don't use Debian (I'm on Mint), but if you have a button that
> > > 
> > > you use to launch a menu of available programs, that's what I mean. You
> > > 
> > > mentioned using the command line or a "LyX icon". Do you get the error
> > > 

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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

took out some wordage in hopes bottom post will send

> 
> If you want to look into it, try typing alt+T, which should open up the
> Tools menu. From there, go to Preferences > Look & Feel > User
> Interface. The first entry on the right is the user interface file.
> Unless you've futzed with it, it probably says "default". Try browsing
> to /usr/share/lyx/ui and selecting default.ui. Hopefully that will
> restore the missing menu. You might also want to run "ls -l
> /usr/share/lyx/ui/stdmenus.inc" in a terminal and verify that the
> stdmenus.inc file is readable by other accounts besides root.
> Permissions on my system are "-rw-r--r--". If the last "r" is missing,
> that might (or might not) explain why root gets the menus and you don't.
> 
> Paul

alt-T gives nothing.

"ls -l 
/usr/share/lyx/ui/stdmenus.inc

This is what default.ui shows

Toolbars
"standard" "on,top"
"view/update" "on,top"
"extra" "on,top,samerow"
"review" "auto,review,top"
"vcs" "off,top"
"table" "auto,table,bottom"
"math_panels" "auto,math,bottom"
"math" "auto,math,bottom"
"mathmacrotemplate" "auto,mathmacrotemplate,bottom"
"ipa" "auto,ipa,bottom"
"minibuffer" "auto,minibuffer,bottom"
"documentation" "off,top"
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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:26:21 PM PST John White wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:47:19 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > On 12/21/22 15:29, John White wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:16:22 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > > On 12/21/22 14:29, John White wrote:
> > > > > Thank you Paul very much for the suggestion.  It caused me to think
> > > > > 
> > > > > that something might be wrong with permissions.  So I opened lyx in
> > > > > 
> > > > > root and the top tool bar shows.  It only doesn't show when I open
> > > > > it
> > > > > 
> > > > > on a regular, non-root command line or from the lyx icon.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure where the system menu is.  Lyx can be used without the
> > > > > 
> > > > > top menu bar but it will only print to one pdf version.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > John
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:09:52 AM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > > > > On 12/19/22 14:44, John White wrote:
> > > > > > > So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian
> > > 
> > > bullfrog
> > > 
> > > > > > > system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > /usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX
> > > 
> > > document.
> > > 
> > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are you launching LyX from a terminal or from the system menu.
> > > 
> > > If the
> > > 
> > > > > > menu, try editing the system menu entry. I would not be
> > > 
> > > surprised if it
> > > 
> > > > > > somehow ended up using the command "lyx
> > > > > > /usr/share/.../lyx.desktop",
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > which would launch LyX and try to open the desktop file as a
> > > 
> > > document.
> > > 
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > 
> > > > John,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Please bottom-post on stuff going to the list.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > There are two different pathologies here (likely unrelated), the
> > > > missing
> > > > 
> > > > top toolbar and the "not readable" error message referring to the
> > > > 
> > > > desktop file. My comment about the system menu was related to the
> > > > 
> > > > latter. I don't use Debian (I'm on Mint), but if you have a button
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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

Sorry for top posting but for some reason my bottom posted comments are being 
cut-off.  
I will look into this tomorrow.

John

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 4:26:21 PM PST John White wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:47:19 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > On 12/21/22 15:29, John White wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:16:22 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > > On 12/21/22 14:29, John White wrote:
> > > > > Thank you Paul very much for the suggestion.  It caused me to think
> > > > > 
> > > > > that something might be wrong with permissions.  So I opened lyx in
> > > > > 
> > > > > root and the top tool bar shows.  It only doesn't show when I open
> > > > > it
> > > > > 
> > > > > on a regular, non-root command line or from the lyx icon.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure where the system menu is.  Lyx can be used without the
> > > > > 
> > > > > top menu bar but it will only print to one pdf version.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > John
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:09:52 AM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > > > > On 12/19/22 14:44, John White wrote:
> > > > > > > So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian
> > > 
> > > bullfrog
> > > 
> > > > > > > system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > /usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX
> > > 
> > > document.
> > > 
> > > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > John
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are you launching LyX from a terminal or from the system menu.
> > > 
> > > If the
> > > 
> > > > > > menu, try editing the system menu entry. I would not be
> > > 
> > > surprised if it
> > > 
> > > > > > somehow ended up using the command "lyx
> > > > > > /usr/share/.../lyx.desktop",
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > which would launch LyX and try to open the desktop file as a
> > > 
> > > document.
> > > 
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > 
> > > > John,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Please bottom-post on stuff going to the list.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > There are two different pathologies here (likely unrelated), the
> > > > missing
> > > > 
> > > > top toolbar and the "not readable" error message referring to the
> > > > 
> > > > desktop file. My comment about the system menu was related to the
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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:47:19 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 12/21/22 15:29, John White wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:16:22 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > On 12/21/22 14:29, John White wrote:
> > > > Thank you Paul very much for the suggestion.  It caused me to think
> > > > 
> > > > that something might be wrong with permissions.  So I opened lyx in
> > > > 
> > > > root and the top tool bar shows.  It only doesn't show when I open it
> > > > 
> > > > on a regular, non-root command line or from the lyx icon.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I am not sure where the system menu is.  Lyx can be used without the
> > > > 
> > > > top menu bar but it will only print to one pdf version.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > > 
> > > > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:09:52 AM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > > > On 12/19/22 14:44, John White wrote:
> > > > > > So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian
> > 
> > bullfrog
> > 
> > > > > > system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > /usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX
> > 
> > document.
> > 
> > > > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > John
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you launching LyX from a terminal or from the system menu.
> > 
> > If the
> > 
> > > > > menu, try editing the system menu entry. I would not be
> > 
> > surprised if it
> > 
> > > > > somehow ended up using the command "lyx /usr/share/.../lyx.desktop",
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > which would launch LyX and try to open the desktop file as a
> > 
> > document.
> > 
> > > > > Paul
> > > 
> > > John,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Please bottom-post on stuff going to the list.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > There are two different pathologies here (likely unrelated), the missing
> > > 
> > > top toolbar and the "not readable" error message referring to the
> > > 
> > > desktop file. My comment about the system menu was related to the
> > > 
> > > latter. I don't use Debian (I'm on Mint), but if you have a button that
> > > 
> > > you use to launch a menu of available programs, that's what I mean. You
> > > 
> > > mentioned using the command line or a "LyX icon". Do you get the error
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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 12:16:22 PM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 12/21/22 14:29, John White wrote:
> > Thank you Paul very much for the suggestion.  It caused me to think
> > that something might be wrong with permissions.  So I opened lyx in
> > root and the top tool bar shows.  It only doesn't show when I open it
> > on a regular, non-root command line or from the lyx icon.
> > 
> > 
> > I am not sure where the system menu is.  Lyx can be used without the
> > top menu bar but it will only print to one pdf version.
> > 
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:09:52 AM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > > On 12/19/22 14:44, John White wrote:
> > > > So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian bullfrog
> > > > 
> > > > system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:

> > > > 
> > > > /usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX document.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Any suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > > 
> > > Are you launching LyX from a terminal or from the system menu. If the
> > > 
> > > menu, try editing the system menu entry. I would not be surprised if it
> > > 
> > > somehow ended up using the command "lyx /usr/share/.../lyx.desktop",
> > > 
> > > which would launch LyX and try to open the desktop file as a document.

> > > 
> > > Paul
> 
> John,
> 
> Please bottom-post on stuff going to the list.
> 
> There are two different pathologies here (likely unrelated), the missing
> top toolbar and the "not readable" error message referring to the
> desktop file. My comment about the system menu was related to the
> latter. I don't use Debian (I'm on Mint), but if you have a button that
> you use to launch a menu of available programs, that's what I mean. You
> mentioned using the command line or a "LyX icon". Do you get the error
> message both ways or just using the icon?
> 
> As far as the top toolbar goes, is it actually the /top toolbar/ you are
> missing (buttons for selecting environments, creating/opening files,
> applying italics and other fun stuff) or the /menu bar/ (File menu, Edit
> menu etc.)? The subject line says toolbar but you mentioned "menu bar".
> 
> Paul

Thanks again.  I no longer get an error message. Lyx just opens without the top 
tool bar. I 
think its probably the menu bar that I am missing (the one that lets you open 
recent files 
and save a lyx file to various pdf versions). This is pretty confusing for me. 
I may wait til 
Christmas is over before looking into it further.  Right now what I do is email 
the lyx file to 
my secretary who can print it out fine.

John

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Re: top tool bar not available

[John White]

Thank you Paul very much for the suggestion.  It caused me to think that 
something 
might be wrong with permissions.  So I opened lyx in root and the top tool bar 
shows.  It 
only doesn't show when I open it on a regular, non-root command line or from 
the lyx 
icon.

I am not sure where the system menu is.  Lyx can be used without the top menu 
bar but it 
will only print to one pdf version.

John

On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 11:09:52 AM PST Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 12/19/22 14:44, John White wrote:
> > So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian bullfrog
> > system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:
> > 
> > 
> > /usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX document.
> > 
> > 
> > Any suggestions?
> > 
> > 
> > John
> 
> Are you launching LyX from a terminal or from the system menu. If the
> menu, try editing the system menu entry. I would not be surprised if it
> somehow ended up using the command "lyx /usr/share/.../lyx.desktop",
> which would launch LyX and try to open the desktop file as a document.
> 
> Paul

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top tool bar not available

[John White]

So I removed lyx and lyx common and reinstalled on my debian 
bullfrog system.  This is what I get now when trying to open Lyx:

/usr/share/applications/lyx.desktop is not a readable LYX document.

Any suggestions?

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Re: Cannot Create New Frame

[John White]

Sorry Gordon,

I have not used windows for several decades.  Perhaps others can help.  I am 
pretty sure 
lyx runs on windows.

John

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 5:20:42 PM PST typ...@mac.com wrote:
> Many thanks, John: a money-saving idea that comes with exactly what I want
> to hear!
> 
> However, given my need for “black box” comfort/confidence at this stage in
> life, I guess a PC with Windows 11 would be equally OK? Right?
> 
> PS: When I mentioned LyX-basic, that was to get around my Mac/LyX problems.
> 
> With a PC, and the accompanying lack of problems, it seems that LyX-basic
> will be unnecessary.
> 
> Thanks to the LyX team!
> 
> With my thanks again, John; Gordon
> 
> > On 17 Nov 2022, at 11:17 am, John White 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > I don't think a new PC is needed.  Why not pick up a used PC and put a
> > linux OS on it?  That's what I have done for years.  Lyx works fine.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 1:26:33 PM PST lyx101 via lyx-users wrote:
> > > Thanks, Scott,
> > > 
> > > Aged 4, I was dubbed a genius with a meccano set! Aged 21, I had an
> > > Honours
> > > degree in Mechanical Engineering. Aged 85, and still pretty clever, LyX
> > > is
> > > THE meccano set for my brain!
> > > 
> > > However, LyX does far more than I need. So I often think about helping
> > > develop  a "bullet-proof" LyX-basic. That is, I can show you everything
> > > that I can do beautifully, and we progressively drop stuff that I — and
> > > most others, like STEM students and teachers — will never need.
> > > 
> > > Of course, that might help me stay with Mac, at the same time bringing
> > > more
> > > Macs to LyX …
> > > 
> > > But Scott, as I think further. Why don’t I — to put it simply — just buy
> > > a
> > > PC? And more happily step up to 15 hours per day (occasionally)
> > > beginning
> > > tomorrow?
> > > 
> > > That’s what you’d do, right? Cheers; Gordon
> > > 
> > > > On 17 Nov 2022, at 7:54 am, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:43:50AM +1100, Gordon Watson wrote:
> > > >> Hi Scott,
> > > >> 
> > > >> On the subject of LyX and Mac! LyX — LyX Version 2.3.6.2 (7 January
> > > >> 2021)
> > > >> — is more important to me than my Monterey v12.6 Mac. (Ventura is on
> > > >> hold.) I am currently locked out of hundreds of essays with a lyx2lyx
> > > >> problem. SO: Is it time for me to buy a PC?
> > > >> 
> > > >> NB: I am a heavy user of LyX, often 14 hours per day. BUT: it is a
> > > >> black
> > > >> box to me, and that’s how I want it to stay: for I do not expect to
> > > >> fiddle with the engine when I buy a car! And, yes, to escape my
> > > >> current
> > > >> dilemma, I’d be happy to BUY LyX or hire a consultant.
> > > >> 
> > > >> In particular: I have no familiarity with the jargon — python, Koma,
> > > >> Linux/Unix — and I hope to remain that way
> > > >> 
> > > >> If a PC is the BEST solution, then recommendations for a suitable PC
> > > >> — or
> > > >> ones to avoid — will be happily received!
> > > >> 
> > > >> Thanks; Gordon
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Gordon,
> > > > 
> > > > Ouch! That sounds really frustrating! I do not think you should buy a
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Re: Cannot Create New Frame

[John White]

I don't think a new PC is needed.  Why not pick up a used PC and put a linux OS 
on it?  
That's what I have done for years.  Lyx works fine.

John

On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 1:26:33 PM PST lyx101 via lyx-users wrote:
> Thanks, Scott,
> 
> Aged 4, I was dubbed a genius with a meccano set! Aged 21, I had an Honours
> degree in Mechanical Engineering. Aged 85, and still pretty clever, LyX is
> THE meccano set for my brain!
> 
> However, LyX does far more than I need. So I often think about helping
> develop  a "bullet-proof" LyX-basic. That is, I can show you everything
> that I can do beautifully, and we progressively drop stuff that I — and
> most others, like STEM students and teachers — will never need.
> 
> Of course, that might help me stay with Mac, at the same time bringing more
> Macs to LyX …
> 
> But Scott, as I think further. Why don’t I — to put it simply — just buy a
> PC? And more happily step up to 15 hours per day (occasionally) beginning
> tomorrow?
> 
> That’s what you’d do, right? Cheers; Gordon
> 
> > On 17 Nov 2022, at 7:54 am, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 07:43:50AM +1100, Gordon Watson wrote:
> >> Hi Scott,
> >> 
> >> On the subject of LyX and Mac! LyX — LyX Version 2.3.6.2 (7 January 2021)
> >> — is more important to me than my Monterey v12.6 Mac. (Ventura is on
> >> hold.) I am currently locked out of hundreds of essays with a lyx2lyx
> >> problem. SO: Is it time for me to buy a PC?
> >> 
> >> NB: I am a heavy user of LyX, often 14 hours per day. BUT: it is a black
> >> box to me, and that’s how I want it to stay: for I do not expect to
> >> fiddle with the engine when I buy a car! And, yes, to escape my current
> >> dilemma, I’d be happy to BUY LyX or hire a consultant.
> >> 
> >> In particular: I have no familiarity with the jargon — python, Koma,
> >> Linux/Unix — and I hope to remain that way
> >> 
> >> If a PC is the BEST solution, then recommendations for a suitable PC — or
> >> ones to avoid — will be happily received!
> >> 
> >> Thanks; Gordon
> > 
> > Hi Gordon,
> > 
> > Ouch! That sounds really frustrating! I do not think you should buy a new
> > computer just because of this. We are working on releasing 2.4.0, and I
> > wonder if this will somehow work for you since it has a lot of
> > improvements compared to the version you're using.
> > 
> > Wow, 14 hours a day! I wonder if there is an entry in the Guiness Book of
> > World Records for LyX usage?
> > 
> > It is our goal that you should not have to know anything about Python,
> > Unix, Qt, C++, etc., to use LyX. Unfortunately, in practice it's hard to
> > achieve that since LyX has a lot of things it needs to work well and
> > sometimes the parts don't line up.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Scott
> > 
> >>> On 17 Nov 2022, at 3:22 am, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 11:10:14AM -0800, Michela Giorcelli via lyx-users 
> >>> wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  I recently upgraded my Mac to Ventura and in Lyx the create new
>  environment option has disappeared and I’m not able to create a new
>  frame, not even using the key board option. Could anyone help with
>  this?>>> 
> >>> Hi Michela,
> >>> 
> >>> Unfortunately, we've seen a lot of strange issues reported by LyX users
> >>> upgrading to Ventura. Further, we have only one LyX developer whose
> >>> main operating system is macOS and I'm not even sure if they are on
> >>> Ventura so I don't know if there will be a fix anytime soon since it's
> >>> hard to figure out what the problem is and how to fix it. I'm really
> >>> sorry for the inconvenience!
> >>> 
> >>> Scott

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Re: Outline for giving speeches

[John White]

On Sunday, November 13, 2022 1:12:59 AM PST Steve Hnizdur wrote:
> On 12/11/2022 17:30, Lou wrote:
> > Hi Steve and Axel,
> > 
> > Thank you very much for responding.
> 
> ...
> 
> > I can't get this to work. The fonts change, but the numbers do not
> > change to \Roman (or whatever they are set to in the renewcommand), and
> > indention doesn't happen. Is there something else I need to do besides
> > placing your code in the preamble?
> > 
> > Lou
> 
> The advice given by Steve Litt is probably the best, but if you want to
> do this in Lyx/Latex then the attached examples show a way to do it
> (assuming I understand your needs)
> 
> This is a bit of a hack as Latex very much wants to be in control of layout.
> 
> In the preamble there are a series of newcommands and renewcommands for
> each level. In the newcommand there is the indent for the header and in
> the following renewcommand at the very end is a leftskip which sets the
> indent for the following blocks of text. Change these to what you want.
> In addition you may want to change the font at each level in which case
> the standard Lyx methods can be used.
> 
> As you can see from the pdf the numbering is in alpha/roman etc as
> defined in the preamble. If your set up is not doing this then query
> operating system/Lyx version etc.
> 
> Hope that helps - good luck

THANK YOU!

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Re: Book about LyX 2.4

[John White]

Thank you Ricardo,

I have printed it out for use by myself and staff.  If we find it useful, as I 
suspect we will, 
let us know of a way we can contribute to your work.

John

On Monday, October 17, 2022 6:17:20 AM PDT Ricardo Berlasso wrote:
> I'm a bit crazy, let's face it, so not only have I updated the book I once
> wrote about LyX, I've done it in English, Spanish and Italian. Here they
> are:
> 
> [EN]
> https://frommindtotype.wordpress.com/lyx-book/
> [ES]
> https://elpinguinotolkiano.wordpress.com/latexxetexlyx/
> [IT]
> https://ilpinguinoscrittore.wordpress.com/xelatexlyx/
> 
> Comments and corrections are welcome. Surely there will be many corrections
> ;)
> 
> Regards,
> Ricardo

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Re: Top toolbar missing after switching from debian 10 to debian 11 (bullseye)

[John White]

Thanks to Paul, Pavel and el I think I have it fixed.  If not, I will try your 
trick.

Thanks,

John

On Monday, May 16, 2022 11:30:55 AM PDT Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 09:56:08AM -0700, John White wrote:
> > The main lyx tool bar is gone, the one with
> > 
> > File, Edit, View, Insert, Navigate, Document, Tools, Help.
> > 
> > Any thoughts on how I might get it back?
> 
> What operating system are you on? I saw something like this a long time ago
> on Ubuntu and the following fixed it for me:
> 
>   sudo apt-get remove appmenu-qt5
> 
> Here is the thread:
> 
>  
> https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=mid=CAO7dr0hxjaR-heXCPN%2BPdvWa37ck
> VKqRnY-Co1dH8YuVj-KXFQ%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> I doubt that issue is still around, but just thought I'd throw out another
> shot in the dark.
> 
> Scott

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Re: Top toolbar missing after switching from debian 10 to debian 11 (bullseye)

[John White]

Hi Doc,

Using your suggestion, Lyx seems to work just fine.  Different from what I am 
used to.  I 
will use it this way and let you know if I run into problems.  Teaching an old 
dog some 
new tricks is problematic.

Thanks!

John




On Monday, May 16, 2022 4:30:25 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> John,
> 
> what happens if you right-click on one of the toolbars?
> 
> "Standard" should be ticked.
> 
> el
> 
> On 12/05/2022 18:56, John White wrote:
> > The main lyx tool bar is gone, the one with
> > 
> > 
> > File, Edit, View, Insert, Navigate, Document, Tools, Help.
> > 
> > 
> > Any thoughts on how I might get it back?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > John

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Re: Top toolbar missing after switching from debian 10 to debian 11 (bullseye)

[John White]

Thank you Paul,

alt-T opens the Tools menu just fine, so I will likely try it without a fixed 
Top Toolbar for a 
while as that might give me more typing space. So you answered my lyx question. 
 Thanks 
much.

For what its worth, I note that my default.ui is all by itself in 
root>user>share>lyx>ui.  

default.ui is also in my /usr/share/lyx/ui/default.ui), along with 
stdtoolbars.inc, 
stdmenus.inc and stdcontext.inc, but lyx no longer points there for some reason.

Not sure why my lyx is accessing root>user>share>lyx>ui but am happy that I can 
now 
access the tools.

John



On Thursday, May 12, 2022 2:12:26 PM PDT Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> On 5/12/22 12:56, John White wrote:
> > The main lyx tool bar is gone, the one with
> > 
> > 
> > File, Edit, View, Insert, Navigate, Document, Tools, Help.
> > 
> > 
> > Any thoughts on how I might get it back?
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > 
> > John
> 
> Does alt+T open the Tools menu even though it is not visible?
> 
> If so, go to Preferences ... > Look & Feel > User Interface and see what
> is set for "User interface file". If it is not "default", try choosing
> the default UI file (probably located at /usr/share/lyx/ui/default.ui).
> 
> If it is set to the default, and assuming the default is at the above
> address, make sure that there is a file named stdmenus.inc in the same
> folder. If yes, open that file in a text editor and make sure it has a
> section named Menubar listing the menus you are missing.
> 
> If you can't get to the Tools menu, check your local UI folder
> (~/.lyx/ui) and see if there is a .ui file in it. If so, rename that to
> something else (.bak?), restart LyX, and see if that helps.
> 
> Shooting in the dark,
> Paul

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Re: Top toolbar missing after switching from debian 10 to debian 11 (bullseye)

[John White]

Thanks SteveT

F11 just minimizes the current screen and shows all other running applications.

It does not bring back the top menu.

John

On Thursday, May 12, 2022 12:04:41 PM PDT Steve Litt wrote:
> John White said on Thu, 12 May 2022 09:56:08 -0700
> 
> >The main lyx tool bar is gone, the one with
> >
> >File, Edit, View, Insert, Navigate, Document, Tools, Help.
> >
> >Any thoughts on how I might get it back?
> 
> I'd rather make a stupid suggestion than make a stupid mistake. Just
> for fun, press the F11 key to toggle "full screen". If that doesn't
> bring back the menu, you'll have wasted 10 seconds.
> 
> SteveT
> 
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Top toolbar missing after switching from debian 10 to debian 11 (bullseye)

[John White]

The main lyx tool bar is gone, the one with 

File, Edit, View, Insert, Navigate, Document, Tools, Help.

Any thoughts on how I might get it back?

Thanks,

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Re: Solved, Page numbers not showing in place

[John White]

Now that you have our curiosity up, perhaps you might show us where we could 
find a 
synopsis of your book.  Who knows.  You might make a sale or two.

On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 6:34:50 PM PST Melvin Bolton wrote:
> Thank you to everybody who offered suggestions and tried to help with
> the problem described below. It steered me towards the ERT that I had
> placed immediately before the first chapter. What finally did the trick
> was to repeat the ERT \pagestyle {plain}  in the text, after the last
> word (as printed in output) of Chapter 1, page 1. After that, the page
> numbers appeared on every page footer in all 18 chapters, centred in
> Standard Class, and in the outers when I switched back to Koma.
> 
> Perhaps this simply countered an earlier error of some sort. I don't
> know but I hope this snippet will prove helpful to others at some point.
> 
> Thank you again
> 
> Melvin
> 
> 
> 
> I have in the past completed a lengthy book, using Lyx,  without needing
> to trouble anybody for help,  but I'm now baffled by what should be a
> simple, basic task and I have no idea what to try next.
> 
> My problem is that the pagestyle settings that should place page numbers
> in the footer, are showing them in the output only on the first page of
> each chapter, which the User Guide says is treated by Lyx as a special
> environment.
> I began with KOMA-Script ( scrbook) with pagestyle set to 'plain' as I'd
> done previously. This places page numbers in the outer end of the footer
> as I prefer them. When I found them only appearing on the first page of
> each chapter I searched online and tried pasting a few commands in the
> preamble but nothing helped and mostly I got compilation errors. I've
> cleared the preamble.
> 
> I tried Lyx Standard Class (Book) with pagestyle set to 'plain', which
> centred the page numbers as it should, but still only on first pages of
> chapters. Neither was there any improvement after I tried pagestyle set
> to 'fancy' and tried to customize that. It's as though chapter footers
> are not accessible, except for first page.
> 
> In my document, immediately before the first chapter, I have the
> following ERT:  \mainmatter\pagestyle{plain} \setcounter{page}{1}
> 
> The frontmatter is fine because I have don't want page numbers there and
> have pagestyle set to 'empty.' That, at least, has worked; there were
> Roman numerals there to begin with.
> Finally, I did a reinstallation of Lyx (ver. 2.3.6.1) in case of
> corruption, (apparently not) and I'm now out of ideas.
> 
> I shall be truly grateful for any help, but I will need precise
> instruction if I am to paste commands correctly into the preamble. I
> really am an old novice.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Melvin

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Re: outline pane issues and huge note slowness

[John White]

I would try documents>settings>module>customheaders/footers.  That 
might help some.

On Monday, November 29, 2021 8:03:35 PM PST sovhist wrote:
> > I'm sending 3 svg and 3 png files from Hotspot.
> 
> My message is waiting for moderators decision because it is too big.
> 
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Re: LibreOffice to LyX

[John White]

On Friday, October 8, 2021 12:14:12 AM PDT Charlie wrote:
>   Wolfgang Engelmann informed me regarding: Re: LibreOffice to
>   LyX on Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:18:55 +0200
> 
> > > Everybody has Word and how difficult can it be?
> > 
> > not me
> > Wolfgang
> 
>   Replied thus:
> 
>   Or me. What is it?
> Charlie
> 
>   East Gippsland Wildlife Rehabilitators Inc..
>http://www.egwildlife.com.au/

Nor me.

John

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Re: LibreOffice to LyX

[John White]

We do everything in lyx, even one page letters, except that some courts require 
that 
submitted orders be in doc format (in case the judge wants to edit).  For those 
docs we 
use libreoffice.

John



On Sunday, October 3, 2021 3:31:47 PM PDT Steve Litt wrote:
> Tobias Hilbricht said on Fri, 01 Oct 2021 19:07:02 +0200
> 
> >Am Donnerstag, den 30.09.2021, 21:38 -0400 schrieb Steve Litt:
> >> converting to LyX, the answer is don't. LibreOffice is a bug ridden
> >> program that tries to be all things to all people and fails
> >> miserably.
> >> You need a 170 IQ and a doctorate to be able to deal with the quirky,
> >> often disappearing or changing styles in LibreOffice.
> >
> >This list should be kept free from remarks such as the one above,
> >because for many people it is just not true. Abstain from trying to
> >ignite stupid flame wars.
> 
> I'm sorry I offended you, Tobias, and thank you for letting me know the
> LyX list is an NLZ (No Laughing Zone) and an NHZ (No Hyperbole Zone),
> and that disappearing or automodifying styles in LibreOffice are my
> personal problem. So allow me to rephrase...
> 
> Several times, on long wordprocessing documents, I personally have had
> LibreOffice writer styles spontaneously change. At one point my
> personal problem with LibreOffice style prevented me from converting a
> 300 page doc made in MS Word to LibreOffice. The import went just fine,
> but the styles kept changing, and keeping them all intact was like
> playing whack-a-mole.
> 
> I had an even worse personal failure involving changing styles in
> LibreOffice's Impress, which contained the 90+ slide presentation I
> license to companies for their internal Universal Troubleshooting
> Process course, that now I need to rewrite the entire thing in Beamer.
> 
> So, based on my personal problems, my advice remains the same: If your
> document exceeds a couple thousand words, I'd recommend LyX over
> LibreOffice Writer, and if your presentation file exceeds four pages,
> I'd recommend Beamer over LibreOffice Impress.
> 
> Hopefully, by posting this clarification, I've avoided the flame war
> you were concerned with.
> 
> SteveT
> 
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> Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques

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Re: How to access the Date Field from Koma Letter in the (LaTeX) preamble.

[John White]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 10:58:42 PM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> John, all
> 
> here is the complete letter with the accompanying Koma Letter Class
> Option file, which either needs to be in the same directory or in one
> which texhash (which MUST be run after each change) can find.
> 


I am vacationing in Philadelphia for a while and will look into this upon my 
return to 
Reno.  

But just for the fun of it I ran your bookoff.lys on my stock lyx, making no 
changes, and 
here attach the resulting pdf.



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Re: How to access the Date Field from Koma Letter in the (LaTeX) preamble.

[John White]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:25:57 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have hacked me a Stamp in LaTeX which works very well in the Koma
> Letter (by way of putting it in LyX's preamble.
> 
> The stamp gets placed next to the signature block, slightly randomly
> placed, then slightly randomly rotated and by way of some roation of the
> frame achieving a realistic look (smudged corners).  I wrote an article
> about this in the German TeX Usergroup's Die Technische Kommödie 2/2017.
> 
> I use the \ISOtoday ERT from Koma Script's scrdate package.
> 
> 
> I do not remember whether I have asked this before, and I have looked,
> but is there a way of using the date that Lyx uses in the blue Date:
> field?  So that if I put a fixed date in the letter, the same should
> appear in the stamp (i.e. I do not want to have today's stamp on
> yesterday's letter :-)-O
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> 
> PS: In case someone is interested, here is what I use in my Practice,
> copy and paste into the preamble:
> 
> %%%
%
> % You can do whatever you want with this, other than bothering us but
> % if you make money from it, you must send us some.
> %
> % Copyright, -wrong -left, and -center 2017, 2021 SPF Lisse Private
> % Family Foundation best...@spflisseff.nl
> %%%
%
> %% LUA: Winkel des Gesamtstempels -- willk\"{u}rlich
> %% zwischen -5 und +5 Grad -- bei jedem Dokument anders
> \usepackage{luacode}
> \newcommand\rot{\directlua{tex.sprint(math.random(-5,5))}}
> 
> 
> \usepackage{tikz}
> \usepackage{xpatch}
> 
> %% XCOLOR: Farbdefinitionen
> \definecolor{stampink}{RGB}{122 150 165}
> 
> %% LATEX: Individuelle Definitionen f\"{u}r den Stempel
> %% (Formatierung Gr\"{o}{\ss}e und Schriftstil)
> %%
> \newcommand\myStampName{Dr Eberhard W Lisse}
> \newcommand\myStampProf{Obstetrician \& Gynecologist}
> \newcommand\myStampPO{PO Box 8421 Bachbrecht}
> \newcommand\myStampNo{016-000-0141135}
> 
> \newcommand\myStampArrangement{%
> \setsansfont{Linux Biolinum O}
> \parbox{3cm}{%
>\centering\sffamily
>\footnotesize\myStampName\\
>\tiny\myStampProf\\
>\scriptsize\myStampPO\\
>\myStampNo\\
>\footnotesize\ISOToday
> }
> \setsansfont{IBM Plex Sans}
> }
> 
> %% TIKZ: Laden notwendiger Styles
> \usetikzlibrary{fit}
> 
> %% Erstellen eines Befehls f\"{u}r den Stempel in einer
> %% Gr\"{o}{\ss}e von 6 cm x 3 cm skaliert
> \newcommand\Stamper{%
>  \resizebox{8cm}{3cm}{%
>  \begin{tikzpicture}
>  %%%

>  %%
>  %% TIKZ: Setzen der linken unteren und rechten oberen Ecke
>  %% des Rechtecks
>  \coordinate (dm1) at (0,0);
>  \coordinate (dm2) at (2.6,1.4);
>  %%
>  %%%
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Re: How to access the Date Field from Koma Letter in the (LaTeX) preamble.

[John White]

On Thursday, September 23, 2021 4:25:57 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have hacked me a Stamp in LaTeX which works very well in the Koma
> Letter (by way of putting it in LyX's preamble.
> 
> The stamp gets placed next to the signature block, slightly randomly
> placed, then slightly randomly rotated and by way of some roation of the
> frame achieving a realistic look (smudged corners).  I wrote an article
> about this in the German TeX Usergroup's Die Technische Kommödie 2/2017.
> 
> I use the \ISOtoday ERT from Koma Script's scrdate package.
> 
> 
> I do not remember whether I have asked this before, and I have looked,
> but is there a way of using the date that Lyx uses in the blue Date:
> field?  So that if I put a fixed date in the letter, the same should
> appear in the stamp (i.e. I do not want to have today's stamp on
> yesterday's letter :-)-O
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> 
> PS: In case someone is interested, here is what I use in my Practice,
> copy and paste into the preamble:
> 
> %%%
%
> % You can do whatever you want with this, other than bothering us but
> % if you make money from it, you must send us some.
> %
> % Copyright, -wrong -left, and -center 2017, 2021 SPF Lisse Private
> % Family Foundation best...@spflisseff.nl
> %%%
%
> %% LUA: Winkel des Gesamtstempels -- willk\"{u}rlich
> %% zwischen -5 und +5 Grad -- bei jedem Dokument anders
> \usepackage{luacode}
> \newcommand\rot{\directlua{tex.sprint(math.random(-5,5))}}
> 
> 
> \usepackage{tikz}
> \usepackage{xpatch}
> 
> %% XCOLOR: Farbdefinitionen
> \definecolor{stampink}{RGB}{122 150 165}
> 
> %% LATEX: Individuelle Definitionen f\"{u}r den Stempel
> %% (Formatierung Gr\"{o}{\ss}e und Schriftstil)
> %%
> \newcommand\myStampName{Dr Eberhard W Lisse}
> \newcommand\myStampProf{Obstetrician \& Gynecologist}
> \newcommand\myStampPO{PO Box 8421 Bachbrecht}
> \newcommand\myStampNo{016-000-0141135}
> 
> \newcommand\myStampArrangement{%
> \setsansfont{Linux Biolinum O}
> \parbox{3cm}{%
>\centering\sffamily
>\footnotesize\myStampName\\
>\tiny\myStampProf\\
>\scriptsize\myStampPO\\
>\myStampNo\\
>\footnotesize\ISOToday
> }
> \setsansfont{IBM Plex Sans}
> }
> 
> %% TIKZ: Laden notwendiger Styles
> \usetikzlibrary{fit}
> 
> %% Erstellen eines Befehls f\"{u}r den Stempel in einer
> %% Gr\"{o}{\ss}e von 6 cm x 3 cm skaliert
> \newcommand\Stamper{%
>  \resizebox{8cm}{3cm}{%
>  \begin{tikzpicture}
>  %%%

>  %%
>  %% TIKZ: Setzen der linken unteren und rechten oberen Ecke
>  %% des Rechtecks
>  \coordinate (dm1) at (0,0);
>  \coordinate (dm2) at (2.6,1.4);
>  %%
>  %%%
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Re: SV: A more effective error correction mechanism

[John White]

Does this revisit the old issue re whether Lyx is or is not a word processor?

John

On Thursday, September 2, 2021 5:39:13 AM PDT Daniel wrote:
> I tend to agree with Helge on this particular feature. But generally
> find it great when people mention features in other word processors they
> find helpful. So, thanks paolo.
> 
> On 02/09/2021 10:35, Helge Hafting wrote:
> >>The editor in gmail underlines in red words that cannot be founf in its
> >>vocabulary, as  lyx does, but it differs in correction, carried out
> >>without
> >>right clicking: just left clicking on that word pops up the list of 1)
> >>alternatives and 2) possible splitting
> >>
> > Please no popup on a left click.  The left click is indeed for
> > positioning the cursor. I have a greater vocabulary than the wordlist,
> > as do anybody who work in a specialist field or deal with names of
> > foreigners. So there are plenty of words underlined in red, and I do NOT
> > want a menu popping up whenever I navigate close to such words!
> > 
> > 
> > LyX already have too many unwanted menus accidentally popping up when
> > positioning the cursor into some complicated nesting of minipages &
> > images & hfills inside a float. Let's not have that inconvenience in
> > plain text too – plain text is a large part of all writing.
> > 
> > 
> > Also, I don't see why right-clicking is harder than left-clicking? Sure,
> > we use the left click more, but the right is just as easy? And with a
> > right click, I get a list with possible corrections, some possible
> > splits, and the option of adding this word to the lists.
> > 
> > 
> > *Fra:* lyx-users  på vegne av paolo m.
> > 
> > *Sendt:* torsdag 29. juli 2021 21:14:21
> > *Til:* lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> > *Emne:* A more effective error correction mechanism
> > The editor in gmail underlines in red words that cannot be founf in its
> > vocabulary, as  lyx does, but it differs in correction, carried out
> > without
> > right clicking: just left clicking on that word pops up the list of 1)
> > alternatives and 2) possible splitting
> > Then
> > - if you click on any item of that list, word is corrected accordingly.
> > Left
> > clicking on a word not underlined does not trigger any popups, just places
> > the cursor.
> > - if you delete the list of the alternatives, that word is included in you
> > personal dictionary
> > 
> > Please can anyone check this out?
> > I think it would be convenient to implement that mechanism in lyx.
> > 
> > thank you
> > 
> > pol



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Re: You use bookmarks in LyX. Tell me about it

[John White]

On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 9:01:23 AM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Am 06.04.21 um 17:21 schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck:
> > On 4/6/21 3:02 AM, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> >> first: What is the shortcut for 'Save Bookmark 1' ?
> >> Shortcuts tells:
> >> Umschalt+F1 Depth Increment Alt+Umschalt+Rechts
> >> Question: Why is Umschalt and Rechts used instead of the English
> >> expressions?
> >> Same for Goto Bookmark 1 > Strg+1 Depth Decrement Alt+Umschalt+Links
> > 
> > These will be a bit saner in 2.4.0 (at least in cua.bind): Ctrl-1,
> > Ctrl-2, etc, will set bookmarks; Alt-1, Alt-2, etc, will go to bookmarks.
> 
> thats good!
> 
> >> If I use Umschalt+F1 to set a bookmark
> >> and ctrl < to go back to it
> >> it does not work for me
> > 
> > Only the 0 bookmark works with Ctrl-<.
> 
> I see.
> 
> > Riki

I agree (that's good).  I use /// ,, , etc and occasionally forget to 
remove the mark 
before printing.
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Re: migrating kmail to new computer

[John White]

That did the trick.  

Thanks much,
John

On Monday, March 15, 2021 10:34:44 AM PDT you wrote:
> In data lunedì 15 marzo 2021 05:35:54 CET, John White ha scritto:
> > [...] Now the problem is
> > that for some reason kmail keeps adding "unnamed" identities in the setup
> > for sending and receiving messages.
> 
> I have had this problem in the past. I solved opening the file:
> ~/.config/emailidentities
> and removing all the unwanted identities from that file.
> 
> Regards.


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Re: Plugin creation info?

[John White]

This is an interesting thread.  Reminds me of Wordstar's mailmerge.

John

On Sunday, December 20, 2020 8:07:09 AM PST Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 12/19/20 7:36 AM, Christos Liaskos wrote:
> > Dear LyX development team,
> > 
> > First of all, many thanks for your hard work! I am an enthusiastic
> > user of LyX since 2009.
> > 
> > I would like to create a custom plugin. (The goal is to provide
> > generalized text autocompletion, depending on the context).
> > 
> > I have searched for information about developing plugins in general,
> > but I can't find much.
> > 
> > Can you direct me to some info on how to develop plugins?
> 
> There are no plugins as such for LyX. Anything that's in the code is in
> the main codebase. The only exception is the various configuration files
> that are text files (layouts, templates, the math autocomplete file,
> etc). So kind of thing you are envisaging would just need to be added to
> the main code.
> 
> I'm curious though what you mean by "generalized text autocompletion".
> 
> Riki



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Re: Xubuntu 20.04: Qt Library

[John White]

Thanks to all.  As I have 5 employees who also use lyx (we run a Gates-free 
office) and we edit each other's documents, I think it best to await the next 
release of Debian - even if I miss a few goodies in the interim.

John

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 2:47:28 PM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> I would try the PPA on a testsystem before changing in production, in your
> situation. That would then update with the usual “apt update”.
> 
> I like bleeding edge, tip of the spear, crack of my ass, to quote... but use
> homebrew on the mac so as to not have to do anything manually which is
> difficult to keep track...
> 
> el
> 
> —
> Sent from Dr Lisse’s iPhone
> 
> On 12 Dec 2020, 23:47 +0200, Richard Kimberly Heck , 
wrote:
> > On 12/12/20 4:18 PM, John White wrote:
> > > This sounds like an excellent way to keep lyx up to date, but I am
> > > clueless
> > > about alternative repositories. If they require github, I'm not
> > > interested.
> > > Lyx 2.3.2 ships with Debian Buster and it works fine for my purposes. I
> > > have learned that adding software versions not in the Buster repository
> > > sometimes causes problems. So I will probably keep using 2.3.2 until
> > > next summer or so when, I expect, Debian should come out with a new
> > > version.
> > 
> > It's really quite easy to build LyX yourself. You don't need git (let
> > alone github). You can just download the source that we release. Then
> > it's the usual method:
> > 
> > # tar -zxvf lyx-2.3.6.tar.gz
> > # cd lyx-2.3.6
> > # ./configure
> > 
> > Add --enable-qt5 there if you want to use qt5
> > 
> > # make
> > # sudo make install
> > 
> > To get the dependencies needed for the build, you should be able to do:
> > 
> > # sudo apt-get build-deps lyx
> > 
> > There's also a PPA for Ubuntu. I don't know if it works with Debian.
> > 
> > Riki
> > 
> > > Best,
> > > 
> > > John
> > > 
> > > On Saturday, December 12, 2020 7:42:23 AM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > > > Hartmut,
> > > > 
> > > > would a better approach not be an alternative repository from which
> > > > the
> > > > package manager then can install the latest DEB?
> > > > 
> > > > el
> > > > 
> > > > On 2020-12-12 12:47 , Hartmut Haase wrote:
> > > > > Hi Richard,
> > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm a little puzzled why you would need that. LyX uses Qt, yes,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > 
> > > > > if I install LyX from the distribution it is about 9 month older
> > > > > than
> > > > > the last release. Because this one does not have binaries for all
> > > > > distributions, I use to compile myself. Therefore I need the Qt
> > > > > library
> > > > > files.
> > > > > The error message is
> > > > > checking for Qt library name... failed
> > > > > configure: error: cannot compile a simple Qt executable. Check you
> > > > > have
> > > > > the



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Re: Xubuntu 20.04: Qt Library

[John White]

This sounds like an excellent way to keep lyx up to date, but I am clueless 
about alternative repositories.  If they require github, I'm not interested.  
Lyx 2.3.2 ships with Debian Buster and it works fine for my purposes.  I have 
learned that adding software versions not in the Buster repository sometimes 
causes problems.  So I will probably keep using 2.3.2 until next summer or so 
when, I expect, Debian should come out with a new version.

Best,

John

On Saturday, December 12, 2020 7:42:23 AM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Hartmut,
> 
> would a better approach not be an alternative repository from which the
> package manager then can install the latest DEB?
> 
> el
> 
> On 2020-12-12 12:47 , Hartmut Haase wrote:
> > Hi Richard,
> > 
> >> I'm a little puzzled why you would need that. LyX uses Qt, yes, but
> > 
> > if I install LyX from the distribution it is about 9 month older than
> > the last release. Because this one does not have binaries for all
> > distributions, I use to compile myself. Therefore I need the Qt library
> > files.
> > The error message is
> > checking for Qt library name... failed
> > configure: error: cannot compile a simple Qt executable. Check you have
> > the



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Re: beamer notes support?

[John White]

Perfect!  I couldn't find it in synaptic until receiving your kind email.

John

On Friday, December 4, 2020 12:12:00 PM PST Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Fri, 4 Dec 2020 20:02:32 +0100
> 
> schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann :
> > Am 04.12.20 um 17:49 schrieb Jürgen Spitzmüller:
> > > Am Donnerstag, dem 03.12.2020 um 22:53 -0800 schrieb John White:
> > >> So, what to do? Not knowing much of Beamer and nothing of Apple.  I
> > >> open the
> > >> url and it asks me to open or save.  When I open it I get an ad for
> > >> Slide
> > >> Pilot.  Where does my debian buster system fit in here?
> > > 
> > > For Linux, use pdfpc (I think that Mac app is basically a clone of
> > > pdfpc):
> > > 
> > > https://pdfpc.github.io/
> > > 
> > > Jürgen
> > 
> > I tried to install pdfpc in Debian. Search for it in synaptic shows
> > texlive-latex-extra, but after running pdfpc I am told the command was
> > not found ???
> > Wolfgang
> 
> Here it is in pdf-presenter-console package.
> 
>   Kornel



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Re: beamer notes support?

[John White]

So, what to do? Not knowing much of Beamer and nothing of Apple.  I open the 
url and it asks me to open or save.  When I open it I get an ad for Slide 
Pilot.  Where does my debian buster system fit in here?

On Thursday, December 3, 2020 10:38:40 PM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Slightly off topic, but prompted by BeamerNotes, on the Mac there is the
> marvelous SlidePilot PDF viewer
> 
>   https://slidepilotapp.com/en/
> 
> which has a little iOS companion (to drive the presentation on screen)
> and specifically supports BeamerNotes.  It took me 5 minutes of
> experimenting to get them to work from my usual LyX template, not having
> used them before.
> 
> This is an impressive piece of software.
> 
> And the author is responsive to suggestions (my next one being that the
> iOS App should be able to drive the pointer on the main screen like a
> laser pointer).
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> On 2020-12-02 22:12 , José Abílio Matos wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 5:54:30 PM WET Neal Becker wrote:
> >> Thanks!  I see now that there is Insert > Custom inset > Beamer Note,
> >> and  there is also Noteitem layout.  Seems odd that these two
> >> options are in entirely different menus.
> > 
> > Because they correspond to different roles:
> > 
> > 
> > Custom inset > Beamer Note => LaTeX: \note{...}
> > 
> > 
> > "Note item" layout => LaTeX: \note[item]{...}
> > 
> > 
> > That corresponds to two different usages, and after using both I like
> > the difference.  Conceptually, at least to me, both concepts make
> > sense.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > José Abílio



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Re: Changes to LaTeX

[John White]

Thanks Doc,

Lyx is working just fine now, and for years last past, so I will follow your 
suggestion and leave well enough alone.  I am not a "cutting edge" guy.  I am 
more a "prehistoric sledgehammer" kind of guy. I don't even have a cell phone, 
preferring to use twinkle as a sip phone on my laptop.  

Keep safe.

John

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 11:05:51 AM PST Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> John,
> 
> Debian uses a package manager (which implies stability and long intervals
> between updates) instead of the lates TeXLive.
> 
> If you are bored, there is apparently a dummy package to
> install TeXLive instead of using the package manager, which however needs
> to be upgraded every year.
> 
> For production use (as in your case) I would stay with the package manager.
> Mixing both together can cause difficult to trace issues.
> 
> I like to bleed the edge, tip the spear, crack the ass so to say, so I
> upgrade early and often, even if it means running into the odd (usually
> temporary) issue.  I have this scripted.
> 
> The coming LyX version will like all major upgrades make changes to the file
> format so older versions will be unable to read that, which would create an
> issue for one of my collaborators, though I can do a Zoom Sunday school.
> But if one waits a week or so, they will issue a version that can, which he
> will update by himself.
> 
> The below shows me you didn’t run it with sudo, but then I would not mix
> tlmgr with apt.
> 
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> —
> Sent from Dr Lisse’s iPad Mini 5
> 
> On 1 Nov 2020, 18:37 +0200, John White , wrote:
> > ??
> > 
> > On Sunday, November 1, 2020 6:22:45 AM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > > tlmgr update --self --all
> > 
> > johwhi@johwhi:~$ tlmgr update --self --all
> > (running on Debian, switching to user mode!)
> > Cannot determine type of tlpdb from /home/johwhi/texmf!
> > tlmgr: running in usermode, did you call `tlmgr init-usertree'?
> > johwhi@johwhi:~$
> > I am using Debian buster (10)
> > Suggestions?
> > John



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Re: Changes to LaTeX

[John White]

??

On Sunday, November 1, 2020 6:22:45 AM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> tlmgr update --self --all

johwhi@johwhi:~$ tlmgr update --self --all 

I am using Debian buster (10)

Suggestions?

John
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Re: LyX acting differently between computers

[John White]

Hi Doc!

Somebody gave me a Raspberry PI the other day and I have no clue what to do 
with it.  Does Lyx work on it?  Does Lyx work on Raspbian ?

Hope this finds you well and happy.

John

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 11:38:20 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Or,
> 
> actually this both means, get rid of Windows :-)-O
> 
> Seriously, I have tried to get LyX and MikTeX working on Windows, but
> given up. And I need Windows for my practice software, so I run it now
> in Virtual Box on an iMac which works out well. Not only for LyX.
> 
> On my servers I run Ubuntu by the way, on the Raspberry PI I run
> Raspbian (all Debian Derivates).
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> On 2020-10-30 03:41 , John White wrote:
> > Dr. Lisse is obviously not perfect or he would have said "Get Debian."
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:37:56 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >> Get a Mac.
> >> 
> >> el



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Re: LyX acting differently between computers

[John White]

Dr. Lisse is obviously not perfect or he would have said "Get Debian."

John

On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 4:37:56 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Get a Mac.
> 
> el
> 
> On 27/10/2020 23:01, David Chan wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I noticed that LyX was acting differently between computers and am trying
> > to figure out the source of this issue.
> > 
> > One computer cannot compile a file that uses biblatex with the apa
> > bibliography style, while the other two computers can. Also, the first
> > computer compiles lines slightly differently so that a paper compiles to
> > 110 pages, while on the other two computers, the paper compiles to 109
> > pages.
> > 
> > The first computer initially had an older version of LyX, 2.3.0 (February
> > 24, 2018), but when I updated it to the newest version, LyX 2.3.5.2 (June
> > 25, 2020), the problem persists. I also found the version that matches
> > the other computers in the archive, LyX 2.3.1-1, and the problem persists
> > with this as well.
> > 
> > When I checked the preferences on LyX on each of the computers, the first
> > one differs by not having `pdflatex` as an option under Preferences >
> > File Handling > File Formats > Default Output Formats, whereas this
> > option exists on the other computers. I am unable to find the `pdflatex`
> > option on the first computer regardless of the version of LyX.
> > 
> > The next thing that I did was to reinstall MikTeX on the first computer.
> > This did not seem to resolve the problem, although it seems to have
> > caused errors in compilation ("undefined control sequence", "Missing
> > number, treated as zero", and "Missing glyphs!").
> > 
> > Can someone please help me troubleshoot this?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Dave
> >  



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Re: Changes to LaTeX

[John White]

Isn't git owned by Gates?

John

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:32:31 AM PDT Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2020, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> > The quick fix is to roll back
> > 
> > tlmgr restore latex 53958
> > 
> > which implies that tlmgr should have been configured to keep a number of
> > backups :-)-O.
> 
> ...
> 
> > because I didn't keep enough backups but you want to look for a backup
> > from 2020-10-08 or earlier.
> 
> EL,
> 
> I use linux, not macOS but ... Have you considered using git to store
> builds? Easy to pull out an earlier version.
> 
> Rich



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Re: Problem saving a file [DROPBOX]

[John White]

Staff and I save to dropbox many, many times a day. I have never seen such an 
error.  We are a linux shop.  Perhaps that is why.

John

On Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:35:28 AM PDT jcredbe...@gmail.com wrote:
> What I have tried is using another file in Dropbox, writing and rewriting
> it. The error does not appear.
> 
> I have just made what you suggested (saving the file outside of Dropbox)
> and the following message appears:
> [image: image.png]
> That is a first! I do not even know what it means or why did it appear. The
> original file is in the Dropbox folder, a new copy is in my Desktop, so no,
> the file is shared (and not opened by someone else as I have updated the
> version number and my coauthor is seated besides me). Saved, modified,
> resaved, no problem with the copy. Closed the copy, opened the original,
> modified, saved, the write failure error appears.
> 
> Maybe this is a black swan, maybe not. Thanks, nevertheless.
> 
> Regards,
> Julio Rojas
> jcredbe...@gmail.com
> 
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 11:15 AM Kornel Benko  wrote:
> > Am Sun, 20 Sep 2020 10:54:55 -0300
> > 
> > schrieb jcredbe...@gmail.com:
> > > Richard,
> > > 
> > > It is 2.3.5.2. I guess it is not related to Dropbox, then.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Julio Rojas
> > > jcredbe...@gmail.com
> > 
> > Just to be sure ... you have tried without dropbox ?
> > 
> > Kornel
> > 
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Re: Paths forgotten?

[John White]

On Tuesday, May 5, 2020 9:27:22 AM PDT Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Tue, 5 May 2020 12:23:50 -0400
> 
> schrieb "Paul A. Rubin" :
> > On 5/5/20 12:11 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > Am Tue, 5 May 2020 11:42:34 -0400
> > > 
> > > schrieb UD Kap :
> > >> Kornel-- I always start the lyx file from the directory where the file
> > >> is (I simply click on the lyx file in the file manager).
> > > 
> > > Interesting. Mine file-manager does _not_ start lyx so that the working
> > > directory would change with the .lyx-file position.
> > > 
> > >   Kornel
> > 
> > I'm using LyX 2.3.4.2 on Mint (similar setup to Ehud, although I'm using
> > Mint 18.3 rather than 19.3 and MATE rather than XFCE), and I confirm
> > that when I start LyX by double-clicking a .lyx file, the LyX working
> > directory is the directory where the file lives. I can't reproduce the
> > problem with graphics paths, though. When I insert a graphic from
> > outside the working directory, LyX records the absolute path in the .lyx
> > file.
> > 
> > Paul
> 
> OK, so my previous question about stored image-paths, is still pending.
> 
> >> Could you check, if the correct (absolute) path is stored in the
> >> lyx-file?
> 
>   Kornel

I think this (forgetting paths) is a very common problem.  Perhaps someone 
could 
show us exactly how our paths should be set up. Or, alternatively, a good 
explanation of all this would be helpful

John


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Re: Compiling LyX in debian buster

[John White]

bottom post

On Thursday, April 16, 2020 9:42:38 AM PDT F M Salter wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Pavel Sanda
>  el+Sanda%22> Thu, 16 Apr 2020 07:04:04 -0700
>  16>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 02:24:32PM +0100, F M Salter wrote:
> > I have tried every combination of configuration parameters from the
> > simplest to the most complete without success.
> 
> So you did
> 
> apt-get build-dep lyx
> 
> to start with, right?
> 
> Pavel
> 
> 
> Pavel,
> You were absolutely correct.  I had not done that.  Doing that solved
> all my problems. Thank you very much.
> Regards
> Frank Salter

I have marked this email as important as I might need it in the future.  

I have used lyx for many years and like Charlie just go  to the Debian 
(currently 
Buster) repository and download it (currently repository has 2.3.2-1).  Works 
fine 
with texlive.  However I keep hearing that the QT people's efforts to monetize 
QT 
may start to give lyx problems.

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Re: ltxcmds.sty

[John White]

Hi Doc and Happy New Year!

Though I am having no problems with lovely lyx, for the heck of it I ran "tlmgr 
update --all --self" and got this response:

johwhi@johwhi:~$ tlmgr update --all --self 


John

On Monday, January 13, 2020 2:24:18 PM PST Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> The Oberdiek package has been changed, moving a number if packages out,
> which now need to be manually installed.
> 
> On the Mac and Unix this is easy, just run something like
> 
>   tlmgr update --all --self
> 
> and
> 
>   tlmgr install ltxcmds
> 
> the latter you need to do for each missing package, or if you know
> which ones are missing you can put all names on the line
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> On 2020-01-13 19:21 , Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> > On 1/13/20 11:58 AM, F M Salter wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Suddenly compiling lyx documents for one user produces the bizarre
> >> situation that not one will  compile. They all report that ltxcmds.sty
> >> is required.  This is true even for a document with only the single
> >> word "test" as contents.  Other users are not affected.
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions?
> >> 
> >> Regards Frank Salter
> > 
> > Does this include a variety of document classes, or are all the
> > non-compiling documents from the same document class (which perhaps
> > requires the Oberdiek LaTeX package)?
> > 
> > Paul

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Re: Section fonts-there must be an easier way

[John White]

Thank you Jürgen and Rich,

I just tried Jürgen's suggestion and it works perfectly.  This problem has 
bothered me for years.  Thank you so much.  I will try to set headings=small 
as my default and if that doesn't work in article class, I will stick with 
KOMA-Script.

John


ovember 26, 2019 7:37:03 AM PST Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 26.11.2019, 07:14 -0800 schrieb John White:
> > Thanks but I don't know how to add a "document option" in KOMA-
> > Script.
> 
> Document > Settings > Document Class > Class Options > Custom.
> 
> Jürgen



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Re: Section fonts-there must be an easier way

[John White]

Thanks but I don't know how to add a "document option" in KOMA-Script.

John

On Tuesday, November 26, 2019 5:46:59 AM PST Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Am Montag, den 25.11.2019, 18:04 -0800 schrieb John White:
> > I am doing a koma document with sections. The section font is too
> > large. So I go to each section manually, highlight it and change font
> > from larger to large. And if there are subsections, they are now same
> > size as sections, so I have to manually reduce font size of sub-
> > sections.
> > 
> > Isn't there an easier way to do this? Isn't there a way to globally
> > change section and sub-section font size?
> 
> With KOMA-Script, you can use the document option headings=small or
> headings=normal
> 
> HTH
> Jürgen



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Re: Section fonts-there must be an easier way

[John White]

I am doing a koma document with sections.  The section font is too 
large. So I go to each section manually, highlight it and change font 
from larger to large.  And if there are subsections, they are now same 
size as sections, so I have to manually reduce font size of sub-sections.

Isn't there an easier way to do this? Isn't there a way to globally change 
section and sub-section font size?

Thanks for any input.

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Re: How to suppress blank page before graphic

[John White]

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:23:38 PM PST Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 05:46:05 -0800
> 
> John White  wrote:
> > I am starting a koma script article with a graphic and exporting to
> > lautex.  Lyx prints a blank page before printing the graphic. How do
> > I suppress the blank page?
> 
> Three experiments:
> 
> 1) Set the document \raggedbottom and see if pagebreaks are more what
> you expect.
> 
> 2) Substitute a 1 millimeter graphic for your graphic, and see if the
> pagebreak goes away.
> 
> 3) Try various combinations of \emergencystretch and \tolerance and see
> their effect on page breaking. See
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/241343/what-is-the-meaning-of-fussy-> 
> sloppy-emergencystretch-tolerance-hbadness . Experiment with exact placement
> of these codes.
> 
> 
> SteveT
> 
> Steve Litt
> November 2019 featured book: Manager's Guide to Technical
> Troubleshooting Second edition
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/mgr

Thanks Steve!

Wonderful advice, especially No.2.  Reducing size of graphic to 90% did the 
trick.

John

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Re: How to suppress blank page before graphic

[John White]

I am starting a koma script article with a graphic and exporting to lautex.  
Lyx prints 
a blank page before printing the graphic. How do I suppress the blank page?

 

John

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 12:25:55 AM PST John White wrote:
> I am starting a koma script article with a graphic and exporting to lautex. 
> Lyx prints a blank page before printing the graphic. How do I suppress the
> blank page?
> 
> 
> 
> John

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fixing tiny font on laptop

[John White]

For some unknown reason, my lyx fonts on all files suddenly 
became too tiny to read. Internet says use mouse wheel to fix, 
which works fine (I borrowed one).  But my laptop doesn't have a 
mouse or a mouse wheel.  Any alternative way of getting normal 
font size back on a mouse-less laptop? I may not be able to 
borrow a mouse next time this happens.

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Re: line spacing problem

[John White]

Whenever I get this kind of error, I get on synaptic and download some more of 
the 
texlive (English) files.  

John

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019 1:01:10 PM PST Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> Le 06/11/2019 à 14:12, veeresh H B a écrit :
> > Hi i am using LYX to write my thesis wherein i am unable to set line
> > space to onehalf. its showing an error ''file'setspace.sty' not found.
> > could you please help me in solving this.
> > thanks in advance
> 
> Hi Veeresh,
> 
> What operating system are you using? What TeX distribution?
> 
> JMarc

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Re: biblatex in lyx

[John White]

On Saturday, September 28, 2019 1:11:03 AM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Am 27.09.19 um 20:05 schrieb John White:
> > On Friday, September 27, 2019 7:23:18 AM PDT Kornel Benko wrote:
> > > Am Freitag, 27. September 2019, 15:54:44 CEST schrieb Wolfgang
> > 
> > Engelmann:
> > > > I had to reinstall a Debian and in it lyx2.3.3. I get with a document
> > > > 
> > > > which worked with biblatex before this >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > The cite engine biblatex-natbib requires a package that is not
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Missing prerequisites:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > biblatex.sty
> > > 
> > > ..
> > > 
> > > > What am I missing and how do I get it?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wolfgang
> > > 
> > > Check first that biblatex.sty is not available.
> > > 
> > > $ kpsewhich biblatex.sty
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If not, try to install apt-file
> > > 
> > > then:
> > > 
> > > $ apt-file update
> > > 
> > > $ apt-file find biblatex.sty
> > > 
> > > --> texlive-bibtex-extra
> > > 
> > > $ sudo apt-get install texlive-bibtex-extra
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > In lyx you should now reconfigure.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Kornel
> > 
> > No doubt you should follow Kornel's suggestion. However whenever
> > something like this happens to me, I get on synaptic and install every
> > texlive thing except full texlive.
> > 
> > John
> 
> Thanks, Kornel and John for your help, which I appreciated. John, does
> it make sense to remove texlive full if I have it already installed or
> does it affect also things I need for texlive to function fully under lyx?
> 
> Wolfgang

Sorry. No clue.  Have never installed full texlive.

John

Re: biblatex in lyx

[John White]

On Friday, September 27, 2019 7:23:18 AM PDT Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Freitag, 27. September 2019, 15:54:44 CEST schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
> > I had to reinstall a Debian and in it lyx2.3.3. I get with a document
> > which worked with biblatex before this >
> > 
> > The cite engine biblatex-natbib requires a package that is not
> > 
> > available in your LaTeX installation, or a converter that
> > 
> > you have not installed. LaTeX output may not be possible.
> > 
> > Missing prerequisites:
> > 
> > biblatex.sty
> 
> ..
> 
> > What am I missing and how do I get it?
> > 
> > Wolfgang
> 
> Check first that biblatex.sty is not available.
>   $ kpsewhich biblatex.sty
> 
> If not, try to install apt-file
> then:
>   $ apt-file update
>   $ apt-file find biblatex.sty
>   --> texlive-bibtex-extra
>   $ sudo apt-get install  texlive-bibtex-extra
> 
> In lyx you should now reconfigure.
> 
>   Kornel

No doubt you should follow Kornel's suggestion.  However whenever something 
like 
this happens to me, I get on synaptic and install every texlive thing except 
full 
texlive.

John

Re: Lyx 2.3.3 doesn't print Glossary

[John White]

I fear this exceeds my pay grade.  But if you could give me some specific task, 
I 
would try it over the weekend.

John

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:45:56 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Thanks.
> 
> I have removed the preferences file and then it works.
> 
> I have added a few preferences and it still works.
> 
> If I change the screen background color to white it fails.  I'd really
> like to have someone try this out and if that is the cause figure out
> why and what can be done to fix this.
> 
> greetings, el
> 
> On 24/09/2019 17:09, John White wrote:
> > Morning (here) El,
> > 
> > I get the same thing whether exported to lautex, cntr-D or cntrl-R.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:50:06 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> I enclose a MWE which does not print the Glossary.
> >> 
> >> If I export to LuaLaTeX and run the PDF shows the Glossary.
> >> 
> >> If I then run it in LyX the PDF does show the Glossary.
> >> 
> >> Any ideas what I can do to figure this out?
> >> 
> >> greetings, el

Re: Lyx 2.3.3 doesn't print Glossary

[John White]

Morning (here) El,

I get the same thing whether exported to lautex, cntr-D or cntrl-R. 

John

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:50:06 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I enclose a MWE which does not print the Glossary.
> 
> If I export to LuaLaTeX and run the PDF shows the Glossary.
> 
> If I then run it in LyX the PDF does show the Glossary.
> 
> Any ideas what I can do to figure this out?
> 
> greetings, el



p.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Re: daily binaries

[John White]

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 8:51:03 AM PDT Pavel Sanda wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 05:35:27PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > Le 18/09/2019 ?? 17:17, Pavel Sanda a écrit :
> >> I believe asking Liviu for exact recipy of how he did ubuntu daily builds
> >> for master would lead to daily builds with stable rather easily...
> >> 
> > > Maybe he would even give us access to
> > > https://launchpad.net/~lyx-devel/+archive/ubuntu/daily
> > > if we had ubuntu machine where to compile the builds.
> > 
> > That is what I thought :) So I asked, and Liviu gave me access to
> > launchpad
> > and sent a link to advice he once gave for another program:
> > https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser/issues/352#issuecomment-1020
> > 04265
> > 
> > I have to admit that I got scared by the whole thing. I do not have enough
> > time to warp my head around this process...
> > 
> > I am very grateful to Liviu for creating the 1.3.3 builds, I am not even
> > able to do that (naively, I though that the launchpad machinery would
> > build
> > everything from a tar.gz and a textfile...).
> > 
> > If you create an account to launchpad, I'd be happy to welcome you to the
> > party.
> 
> Thanks. But no thanks :)
> I don't use ubuntu myself so someone else would need to step in.
> 
> >> I think I could setup debian repo with daily builds with reasonable
> >> amount
> >> of effort if I could get +3 people to promise they will actually use
> >> that...
> > 
> > I do not know how many debian users we have, actually.
> 
> Me neither. What I meant was that if I get enough positive responses to
> this thread from users willing to test debian dailies I can try.
> 
> CC-ing users list.
> Pavel
 I am a debian user but have never used dailies and it is unlikely that I ever 
will.

John

Re: pleading paper part 2

[John White]

 As regular readers of this list might recall, I do a lot of work which 
requires 
pleading paper. I have that figured out pretty much. When I have a document 
that 
requires a table of contents or similar complexities I use a template with 
pleading 
paper as the background.  And when I need exact line numbers, I have a template 
for that.  But when I just want the document to have regular, evenly spaced 
lined 
numbers on the left, the template I use requires that export to ps2pdf.  If I 
export 
to lautex the line numbering starts in the middle of the page.
> 
I would much rather print with a lautex pdf all the time.  Any suggestions as 
to how 
I can get lautex to start line numbers at the top of the page?

Most apologies if this appears in the list twice.  I keep forgetting my proper 
login.

 John



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Re: pleading paper part 2

[John White]

As regular readers of this list might recall, I do a lot of work which requires 
pleading paper. I have that figured out pretty much. When I have a document 
that requires a table of contents or similar complexities I use a template with 
pleading paper as the background.  And when I need exact line numbers, I 
have a template for that.  But when I just want the document to have regular, 
evenly spaced lined numbers on the left, the template I use requires that 
export to ps2pdf.  If I export to lautex the line numbering starts in the 
middle 
of the page.

I would much rather print with a lautex pdf all the time.  Any suggestions as 
to how I can get lautex to start line numbers at the top of the page?

John


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Re: lyx disk: error: LyX could not create the temporary directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpbuf1'

[John White]

After reconfiguring, I would save one of the problem files to a usb stick and 
see 
if lyx will open it from there.  

John

On Tuesday, September 3, 2019 7:31:32 AM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> I have saved a lyx document under a different name. I restarted lyx
> but get a lyx disk: error: LyX could not create the temporary
> directory '/tmp/lyx_tmpbuf1' (Disk is full maybe?)
> 
> Before there were in /tmp 3 tmpbuf (0, 1, 2). Now there is only this one:
> lyx_tmpdir.JvcZAzSC4585
> 
> Whatever lyx file I try to load (file>recent>...  or file>open>...) I
> get always this error.
> 
> What should I do to get lyx working again?
> 
> Wolfgang

Re: How to keep versions of a paper in different formats

[John White]

el,

Any chance that you could attach a .lyx file with an short example of how the 
preamble would look?  For lazy latex newbies like me.  If this would take too 
much 
time, forget this request.  I will probably eventually learn enough myself.  Or 
I could 
probably pigeon-hole my college professor latex-expert son-in-law when I visit 
them 
over Christmas.

John

On Monday, September 2, 2019 2:35:36 PM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Jerry,
> 
> what version control problem?
> 
> If you are on a Mac or Linux, and you are not collaborating with other
> authors, you (just :-)-O) install RCS, rerun Tool -> Reconfigure check
> the sucker in and out.
> 
> You then can put something like this in your preamble
> 
> \usepackage{rcs-multi}
> \rcsid{$Id$}
> 
> after installing rcs-multi if you don't have it already installed, and
> do all sorts of business inside like version numbers in the footer,
> header, watermark or file name.  Checking out a particular older version
> is no drama.
> 
> And then you can ask your friend Google for LaTeX IEEE which will return
> LaTeX templates galore.  I am reasonably certain that you can put a lot
> of this into the preamble perhaps by way of an \include statement so
> that you don't have to muck around much in the LyX for submission.
> 
> Publish or perish :-)-O
> 
> el
> 
> On 2019-08-30 14:03 , list_em...@icloud.com wrote:
> > I have a manuscript which I plan to submit for publication.  In its
> > current form, it is in a format different from what the journal
> > expects and as such must be converted to the format (IEEE) expected by
> > the journal.  (I normally do this by copy-pasting large sections of
> > text.)  If the manuscript is rejected by the journal then I will have
> > to either revert to the original format or convert to a third format
> > for another journal.  I have a version control problem across formats
> > if I make further edits to any version in any format.  Besides
> > tediously manually editing all versions, making the same changes, is
> > there any way to keep a master document and spawn one or more
> > alternately-formatted versions with the same content, thus saving the
> > headache of manually editing each version?
> > 
> > I know that LyX has a version control capacity but I have never used
> > it and I suspect it is not appropriate for this scenario.
> > 
> > Jerry

Re: KOMA-Script report: old font issue with bibtex

[John White]

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 11:14:48 AM PDT Rich Shepard wrote:
> On Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:44:13 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> > Ok, thanks,
> > 
> > please don't ask questions then, for which you don't like the answers.
> 
> el,
> 
> You answered my question days ago: select a different style or modify a .bst
> file. I chose a different style.
> 
> Rich

el, 

 

Right on.  Thanks so much for answering my lyx questions over the years.

 

BTW, I am loving background!  Still learning about it.

 

John

Re: KOMA-Script report: old font issue with bibtex

[John White]

el, 

Right on.  Thanks so much for answering my lyx questions over the years.

BTW, I am loving background!  Still learning about it.

John

On Thursday, August 29, 2019 5:44:13 AM PDT Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> Ok, thanks,
> 
> please don't ask questions then, for which you don't like the answers.
> 
> el
> 
> On 29/08/2019 14:34, Rich Shepard wrote:
> > On Thu, 29 Aug 2019, Dr Eberhard Lisse wrote:
> >> you really seem to not be getting it.
> > 
> > Eberhard,
> > 
> > We'll agree to disagree. I fully understand what you've written and have
> > neither need nor desire to futz any more with reference styles.
> > 
> > Documents I prepare are for clients, regulatory agencies, or in support of
> > litigation. No one who reads them cares about bibliographic format. I
> > suspect that no one looks for and reads any of the references.
> > 
> > Using a format that is in the category of "good enough" is sufficient.
> > 
> > Thanks for sharing your efforts and results.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Rich

Re: Background doesn't work.

[John White]

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 11:52:09 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> The example document has
> 
>   opacity=o.0
> 
> instead of
> 
>   opacity=1.0
> 
> in the preamble.
> 
> el
> 
> On 25/08/2019 10:11 pm, John White wrote:
> > I could have sworn I sent something like this to the lyx users list
> > yesterday, but don't see it in my "sent" file. So here goes, possibly
> > again.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have the following code in Document>settings>LaTeX preamble (Lyx 2.3.2).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > \usepackage{background}
> > 
> > \backgroundsetup{
> > 
> > contents={%
> > 
> > \includegraphics[width=\pagewidth]{lines.pdf}
> > 
> > },
> > 
> > angle=0,
> > 
> > scale=1.0,
> > 
> > opacity=1.0
> > 
> > }
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I also have lines.pdf in the same subdirectory. See attached. However,
> > lyx does not see lines.pdf.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Does anyone know how I can get lyx to see and open lines.pdf in the
> > background. I also tried watermark, but could only see DRAFT in watermark.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > John

Thanks Doc!  Silly me.

 

John

Re: Background doesn't work.

[John White]

Thanks Doc!  Silly me.

John

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 11:52:09 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> The example document has
> 
>   opacity=o.0
> 
> instead of
> 
>   opacity=1.0
> 
> in the preamble.
> 
> el
> 
> On 25/08/2019 10:11 pm, John White wrote:
> > I could have sworn I sent something like this to the lyx users list
> > yesterday, but don't see it in my "sent" file. So here goes, possibly
> > again.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have the following code in Document>settings>LaTeX preamble (Lyx 2.3.2).
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > \usepackage{background}
> > 
> > \backgroundsetup{
> > 
> > contents={%
> > 
> > \includegraphics[width=\pagewidth]{lines.pdf}
> > 
> > },
> > 
> > angle=0,
> > 
> > scale=1.0,
> > 
> > opacity=1.0
> > 
> > }
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I also have lines.pdf in the same subdirectory. See attached. However,
> > lyx does not see lines.pdf.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Does anyone know how I can get lyx to see and open lines.pdf in the
> > background. I also tried watermark, but could only see DRAFT in watermark.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > John

Background doesn't work.

[John White]

I could have sworn I sent something like this to the lyx users list yesterday, 
but don't 
see it in my "sent" file. So here goes, possibly again. 

I have the following code in Document>settings>LaTeX preamble (Lyx 2.3.2). 


\usepackage{background}
\backgroundsetup{
   contents={%
  \includegraphics[width=\pagewidth]{lines.pdf}
   },
   angle=0,
   scale=1.0,
   opacity=1.0
}

I also have lines.pdf in the same subdirectory.  See attached.  However, lyx 
does not 
see lines.pdf.  

Does anyone know how I can get lyx to see and open lines.pdf in the background. 
 I 
also tried watermark, but could only see DRAFT in watermark.

John


exampleel.lyx
Description: application/lyx


lines.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

Can't get background to work

[John White]

Lyx doesn't see lines.pdf (see attached). If I could get to that point I could 
probably take it the rest of the way. I tried watermark too, and got the 
default 
DRAFT ok but could not make it see text.

My goal is to have a papers generated with lyx to, when printed, have evenly 
spaced, double spaced numbers shown on the left side. I don't like the line 
generator program as it numbers every line irregularly (i.e. is too specific).  
I just 
need 28 double spaced lines running down the left side of each page. (pleading 
paper).

Any suggestions are appreciated.

John


exampleel.lyx
Description: application/lyx


lines.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

lyxblogger

[John White]

Speaking of lyxhtml, does anyone still use lyxblogger for their 
wordpress site?  It apparently has not been tended to for many years. 

I am so used to writing in lyx that I find it easier to first write the blog in 
lyx and then cut and paste it into wordpress, therein losing some of the 
formatting. 

Lyxblogger purports to keep the formatting when posting to wordpress.  
It seems to still work, sort of, but hangs up when accessing the 
wordpress site.

John White

Re: 14 point type (solved)

[John White]

My bad.  Italics show if in Documents>Settings>Fonts, rather than "default," I 
set to 
sans serif to noto sans and sans/typewriter to noto mono.

John

On Friday, July 5, 2019 5:54:05 PM PDT John White wrote:
> Cause I am old.  Habit over 20 years or more with lovely lyx.
> 
> I don't see a Lualatex in the export menu.  I see pdf (luatex), which I am
> using on my 2.3.2 lyx version, and latex (luatex) which I have never tried.
> 
> I like Noto Serif too. If you get the chance, please tell your friend that
> italicized Noto serif text prints as regular (non-italicized text) when
> exported via pdf (luatex) using Koma script article on my Debian stretch
> machine.  Italics are not lost when, all else being the same, I switch from
> Noto serif to new century schoolbook.
> 
> John
> 
> On Friday, July 5, 2019 11:42:43 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > Why would one ever use pdf2pdf?
> > 
> > Lualatex (pdf5) generates proper PDF.
> > 
> > I haven't encountered the italic issue, but if I can verify it I will take
> > it up with the package maintainer. You can take any font you like, and if
> > New Century Schoolbook 14 works, use that. I just happen to like Noto
> > :-)-O
> > 
> > el
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
> > On 5 Jul 2019, 19:51 +0200, John White ,
> > wrote:
> > […]
> > 
> > > > As an experiment, I typed two sentences from an actual opinion of our
> > > > Court
> > > > (presuming it uses its own rules) and compared them to the lyx pdf
> > > > version,
> > > > using 14pt custom with koma script article and 12pt base with regular
> > > > article class and it is clear that the 12pt base is too small.
> > > > However,
> > > > the font the Court uses is slightly smaller than the koma-script 14.
> > > > As
> > > > the rule says 14pt "or larger" I think I will stick with your
> > > > koma-script
> > > > 14pt, even if I have to trash a two or three paragraphs of my amazing
> > > > prose.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again!
> > > 
> > > I note that when using noto serif font exports to pdf (lautex) I lose
> > > some
> > > formatting, e.g. italics are lost. And exporting noto serif to pdf2pdf
> > > looks a little big. So I used New Century School book exported to pdf
> > > (Pdf2pdf) which seems slightly better (less big) than when using century
> > > school book and exporting to lautex pdf. This font business is
> > > confusing.
> > > John
> > > 
> > > > > 

Re: 14 point type (solved)

[John White]

Cause I am old.  Habit over 20 years or more with lovely lyx.

I don't see a Lualatex in the export menu.  I see pdf (luatex), which I am 
using on 
my 2.3.2 lyx version, and latex (luatex) which I have never tried.  

I like Noto Serif too. If you get the chance, please tell your friend that 
italicized Noto 
serif text prints as regular (non-italicized text) when exported via pdf 
(luatex) using 
Koma script article on my Debian stretch machine.  Italics are not lost when, 
all else 
being the same, I switch from Noto serif to new century schoolbook. 

John 

On Friday, July 5, 2019 11:42:43 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> Why would one ever use pdf2pdf?
> 
> Lualatex (pdf5) generates proper PDF.
> 
> I haven't encountered the italic issue, but if I can verify it I will take
> it up with the package maintainer. You can take any font you like, and if
> New Century Schoolbook 14 works, use that. I just happen to like Noto :-)-O
> 
> el
> 
> 
> --
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
> On 5 Jul 2019, 19:51 +0200, John White , wrote:
> […]
> 
> > > As an experiment, I typed two sentences from an actual opinion of our
> > > Court
> > > (presuming it uses its own rules) and compared them to the lyx pdf
> > > version,
> > > using 14pt custom with koma script article and 12pt base with regular
> > > article class and it is clear that the 12pt base is too small. However,
> > > the font the Court uses is slightly smaller than the koma-script 14. As
> > > the rule says 14pt "or larger" I think I will stick with your
> > > koma-script
> > > 14pt, even if I have to trash a two or three paragraphs of my amazing
> > > prose.
> > > 
> > > Thanks again!
> > 
> > I note that when using noto serif font exports to pdf (lautex) I lose some
> > formatting, e.g. italics are lost. And exporting noto serif to pdf2pdf
> > looks a little big. So I used New Century School book exported to pdf
> > (Pdf2pdf) which seems slightly better (less big) than when using century
> > school book and exporting to lautex pdf. This font business is confusing.
> > John
> > 
> > > > 

Re: 14 point type (solved)

[John White]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 9:11:21 AM PDT John White wrote:
> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:29:47 AM PDT John White wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 12:15:49 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > > John,
> > > 
> > > I would even go so far as to use Noto Serif and if that looks too big
> > > (compare with New Century Schoolbook 14) use 13pt.
> > > 
> > > :-)-O
> > > 
> > > el
> > > 
> > > On 2019-07-04 07:53 , John White wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:30:45 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > > >> John,
> > > >> 
> > > >> use one of the Koma Script formats, perhaps article, and then in the
> > > >> 
> > > >>  Document Settings Document Class Custom put 14pt.
> > > >> 
> > > >> In Document Settings Fonts use Base Size Default and select the
> > > >> fonts.
> > > >> 
> > > >> That should do it.
> > > >> 
> > > >> el
> > > >> 
> > > >> Sent from Dr Lisse’s SE
> > > >> 
> > > >> On 4. Jul 2019, 08:11 +0200, John White ,
> 
> wrote:
> > > >>> I am doing a brief for court. The rules provide: "A proportionally
> > > >>> spaced
> > > >>> typeface (e.g., Century Schoolbook, CG Times, Times New Roman, and
> > > >>> New
> > > >>> Century) must be 14-point or larger." I use new century Schoolbook.
> > > >>> As
> > > >>> the base text is 12 point, the only way I see to do this is to
> > > >>> highlight
> > > >>> the text and mark it in lyx text-style as "large," which throws off
> > > >>> symmetry of the document (e.g. subsections are also "large.") This
> > > >>> is
> > > >>> a
> > > >>> real pain. Any suggestions as to how I can otherwise get text in the
> > > >>> document to 14 point? One thing: I am relying on
> > > >>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40104/difference-between-lat
> > > >>> ex
> > > >>> -a
> > > >>> nd
> > > >>> -word-in-setting-font-size#40108 and common sense for my conclusion
> > > >>> that
> > > >>> when I check base size 12 in document settings 12 point text is
> > > >>> produced.
> > > >>> However, on the printed page base size text actually looks to be
> > > >>> closer
> > > >>> to 14 point. Perhaps if I actually measure the type when printed
> > > >>> base
> > > >>> size 12 will really be closer to 14 point? I am using lyx version
> > > >>> 2.3.2
> > > >>> on Debian stretch.
> > > >>> Thanks for any suggestions?
> > > >>> John White
> > > > 
> > > > Brilliant!  Thanks Doc!
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > John
> > 
> > Both Century Schoolbook and Noto Serif look so big at 14 points when
> > exported to pdf.  I think I simply don't understand font sizes. When
> > compared with some of the size urls (e.g.
> > https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/
> > sec526pt2.htm[1])
> > the base 12 in lyx to me looks like at least 14 point.  When I get to
> > office tomorrow I will print and see if I can figure it out better with a
> > ruler (no printer at home).  Aside from appearance, the issue is legally
> > significant as briefs are subject to strict page limits and 14 point fills
> > up a page quickly.
> > 
> > John
> 
> As an experiment, I typed two sentences from an actual opinion of our Court
> (presuming it uses its own rules) and compared them to the lyx pdf version,
> using 14pt custom with koma script article and 12pt base with regular
> article class and it is clear that the 12pt base is too small.  However,
> the font the Court uses is slightly smaller than the koma-script 14.  As
> the rule says 14pt "or larger" I think I will stick with your koma-script
> 14pt, even if I have to trash a two or three paragraphs of my amazing

Re: 14 point type (solved)

[John White]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:29:47 AM PDT John White wrote:
> On Thursday, July 4, 2019 12:15:49 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> > I would even go so far as to use Noto Serif and if that looks too big
> > (compare with New Century Schoolbook 14) use 13pt.
> > 
> > :-)-O
> > 
> > el
> > 
> > On 2019-07-04 07:53 , John White wrote:
> > > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:30:45 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > >> John,
> > >> 
> > >> use one of the Koma Script formats, perhaps article, and then in the
> > >> 
> > >>  Document Settings Document Class Custom put 14pt.
> > >> 
> > >> In Document Settings Fonts use Base Size Default and select the fonts.
> > >> 
> > >> That should do it.
> > >> 
> > >> el
> > >> 
> > >> Sent from Dr Lisse’s SE
> > >> 
> > >> On 4. Jul 2019, 08:11 +0200, John White , 
wrote:
> > >>> I am doing a brief for court. The rules provide: "A proportionally
> > >>> spaced
> > >>> typeface (e.g., Century Schoolbook, CG Times, Times New Roman, and New
> > >>> Century) must be 14-point or larger." I use new century Schoolbook. As
> > >>> the base text is 12 point, the only way I see to do this is to
> > >>> highlight
> > >>> the text and mark it in lyx text-style as "large," which throws off
> > >>> symmetry of the document (e.g. subsections are also "large.") This is
> > >>> a
> > >>> real pain. Any suggestions as to how I can otherwise get text in the
> > >>> document to 14 point? One thing: I am relying on
> > >>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40104/difference-between-latex
> > >>> -a
> > >>> nd
> > >>> -word-in-setting-font-size#40108 and common sense for my conclusion
> > >>> that
> > >>> when I check base size 12 in document settings 12 point text is
> > >>> produced.
> > >>> However, on the printed page base size text actually looks to be
> > >>> closer
> > >>> to 14 point. Perhaps if I actually measure the type when printed base
> > >>> size 12 will really be closer to 14 point? I am using lyx version
> > >>> 2.3.2
> > >>> on Debian stretch.
> > >>> Thanks for any suggestions?
> > >>> John White
> > > 
> > > Brilliant!  Thanks Doc!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > John
> 
> Both Century Schoolbook and Noto Serif look so big at 14 points when
> exported to pdf.  I think I simply don't understand font sizes. When
> compared with some of the size urls (e.g.
> https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/ sec526pt2.htm[1])
> the base 12 in lyx to me looks like at least 14 point.  When I get to
> office tomorrow I will print and see if I can figure it out better with a
> ruler (no printer at home).  Aside from appearance, the issue is legally
> significant as briefs are subject to strict page limits and 14 point fills
> up a page quickly.
> 
> John

As an experiment, I typed two sentences from an actual opinion of our Court 
(presuming it uses its own rules) and compared them to the lyx pdf version, 
using 
14pt custom with koma script article and 12pt base with regular article class 
and it 
is clear that the 12pt base is too small.  However, the font the Court uses is 
slightly 
smaller than the koma-script 14.  As the rule says 14pt "or larger" I think I 
will stick 
with your koma-script 14pt, even if I have to trash a two or three paragraphs 
of 
my amazing prose.

Thanks again!
> 
> 
> 

Re: 14 point type (solved)

[John White]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 12:15:49 PM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> John,
> 
> I would even go so far as to use Noto Serif and if that looks too big
> (compare with New Century Schoolbook 14) use 13pt.
> 
> :-)-O
> 
> el
> 
> On 2019-07-04 07:53 , John White wrote:
> > On Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:30:45 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> >> John,
> >> 
> >> use one of the Koma Script formats, perhaps article, and then in the
> >> 
> >>  Document Settings Document Class Custom put 14pt.
> >> 
> >> In Document Settings Fonts use Base Size Default and select the fonts.
> >> 
> >> That should do it.
> >> 
> >> el
> >> 
> >> Sent from Dr Lisse’s SE
> >> 
> >> On 4. Jul 2019, 08:11 +0200, John White , 
> >> wrote:
> >>> I am doing a brief for court. The rules provide: "A proportionally
> >>> spaced
> >>> typeface (e.g., Century Schoolbook, CG Times, Times New Roman, and New
> >>> Century) must be 14-point or larger." I use new century Schoolbook. As
> >>> the base text is 12 point, the only way I see to do this is to highlight
> >>> the text and mark it in lyx text-style as "large," which throws off
> >>> symmetry of the document (e.g. subsections are also "large.") This is a
> >>> real pain. Any suggestions as to how I can otherwise get text in the
> >>> document to 14 point? One thing: I am relying on
> >>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40104/difference-between-latex-a
> >>> nd
> >>> -word-in-setting-font-size#40108 and common sense for my conclusion that
> >>> when I check base size 12 in document settings 12 point text is
> >>> produced.
> >>> However, on the printed page base size text actually looks to be closer
> >>> to 14 point. Perhaps if I actually measure the type when printed base
> >>> size 12 will really be closer to 14 point? I am using lyx version 2.3.2
> >>> on Debian stretch.
> >>> Thanks for any suggestions?
> >>> John White
> > 
> > Brilliant!  Thanks Doc!
> > 
> > 
> > John

Both Century Schoolbook and Noto Serif look so big at 14 points when exported 
to 
pdf.  I think I simply don't understand font sizes. When compared with some of 
the 
size urls (e.g. https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/
sec526pt2.htm[1]) the base 12 in lyx to me looks like at least 14 point.  When 
I get to 
office tomorrow I will print and see if I can figure it out better with a ruler 
(no 
printer at home).  Aside from appearance, the issue is legally significant as 
briefs 
are subject to strict page limits and 14 point fills up a page quickly.

John



[1] https://www-archive.mozilla.org/newlayout/testcases/css/sec526pt2.htm

Re: 14 point type (solved)

[John White]

On Thursday, July 4, 2019 8:30:45 AM PDT Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> John,
> 
> use one of the Koma Script formats, perhaps article, and then in the
>  Document Settings Document Class Custum put 14pt.
> 
> In Document Settings Fonts use Base Size Default and select the fonts.
> 
> That should do it.
> 
> el
> 
> Sent from Dr Lisse’s SE
> 
> On 4. Jul 2019, 08:11 +0200, John White , wrote:
> > I am doing a brief for court. The rules provide: "A proportionally spaced
> > typeface (e.g., Century Schoolbook, CG Times, Times New Roman, and New
> > Century) must be 14-point or larger." I use new century Schoolbook. As
> > the base text is 12 point, the only way I see to do this is to highlight
> > the text and mark it in lyx text-style as "large," which throws off
> > symmetry of the document (e.g. subsections are also "large.") This is a
> > real pain. Any suggestions as to how I can otherwise get text in the
> > document to 14 point? One thing: I am relying on
> > https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40104/difference-between-latex-and
> > -word-in-setting-font-size#40108 and common sense for my conclusion that
> > when I check base size 12 in document settings 12 point text is produced.
> > However, on the printed page base size text actually looks to be closer
> > to 14 point. Perhaps if I actually measure the type when printed base
> > size 12 will really be closer to 14 point? I am using lyx version 2.3.2
> > on Debian stretch.
> > Thanks for any suggestions?
> > John White

Brilliant!  Thanks Doc!


John

14 point type

[John White]

I am doing a brief for court. The rules provide: "A proportionally spaced 
typeface 
(e.g., Century Schoolbook, CG Times, Times New Roman, and New Century) must be 
14-point or larger." I use new century Schoolbook.

As the base text is 12 point, the only way I see to do this is to highlight the 
text and 
mark it in lyx text-style as "large,"  which throws off symmetry of the 
document (e.g. 
subsections are also "large.")

This is a real pain.  Any suggestions as to how I can otherwise get text in the 
document to 14 point?

One thing:  I am relying on 

https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40104/difference-between-latex-and-word-in-setting-font-size#40108[1]

and common sense for my conclusion that when I check base size 12 in document 
settings 12 point text is produced. However, on the printed page base size text 
actually looks to be closer to 14 point.  Perhaps if I actually measure the 
type when 
printed base size 12 will really be closer to 14 point? 

I am using lyx version 2.3.2 on Debian stretch.

Thanks for any suggestions?

John White


[1] 
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/40104/difference-between-latex-and-word-in-setting-font-size#40108

Re: lyx 2.3.2

[John White]

If I recall, I went to synaptic and simply updated lyx to the new version.

John

On Monday, March 25, 2019 4:48:58 PM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> On 25.03.19 15:52, j...@lawquest.com wrote:
> > On Monday, March 25, 2019 10:56:28 AM PDT Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> > > On 25.03.19 10:48, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> > > > Le 25/03/2019 à 10:46, Wolfgang Engelmann a écrit :
> > > >> I would like to install the Debian stable backport binary 2.3.2 on my
> > > >> 
> > > >> new notebook. I had installed in stretch version 2.2.2. Do I have to
> > > >> 
> > > >> de-install this one before doing it?
> > > > 
> > > > If both are packaged by debian, I would think you do not need to
> > > > 
> > > > uninstall.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > JMarc
> > > 
> > > Thanks, JMarc
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wolfgang
> > 
> > When I did the same thing (loaded backport 2.3.2 on top of my existing
> > debian stretch lyx)
> 
> John, how did you do it in detail?  I downloaded 2.3.2 in my Download
> folder. How do I make sure it is installed at the same place as the old
> lyx? Wolfgang
> 
> > I did not first remove lyx. New version just updated and works fine.
> > And I think it solved my extra spacing problem as well.
> > 
> > John

Re: https://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Modules/soul.module messages

[John White]

On Friday, March 15, 2019 11:12:56 AM PDT John Kane wrote:
> We may be talking at cross-purposes here as I am running Ubuntu 18.04
> 
> However, I downloaded the modified soul module, copied it into
> /.lyx/layouts,  ran a reconfigure and something calling itself "Soul
> text markup" has appeared in my list of available modules.
> 
> As Daniel points out my instructions do not work for Windows so I may
> be using an approach that is only valid in Ubundu
> 
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 at 04:51, Kornel Benko  wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, 14. März 2019 20:16:51 CET schrieb John White 
:
> > > Thanks John, but, after reconfigure, that doesn't seem to work.
> > > 
> > >  *  johwhi@johwhi:~/.lyx/layouts$ ls
> > > 
> > > The modules seem to be in ~/.lyx/packages.lst or ~/.lyx/styFiles.lst and
> > > I don't know how to edit those files.  At least I don't see them
> > > anywhere else.vOnly thing in ~.lyx/ layouts is soul.module.
> > > Perhaps I will have to break down and read the instructions. I use 2.3.2
> > > on Debian stretch 64 bit.
> > > John
> > 
> > This is the wrong directory. The subdir 'layouts' is the correct one.
> > (For you  ~/.lyx/layouts)
> > 
> > Kornel-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> > 
> > Version: GnuPG v2
> > 
> > iQEcBAABCAAGBQJci2d6AAoJEG9QBFYDX0RbgmcIAL9CV9Ly8z3Jc5Cxvag7vUYV
> > uoL7qH/n1n0zF5moudxQjitXyOe0YHOgpqyAo6U9g2yRG1pj9w0Trp6f8wbjsNPA
> > gssCM4CwvQT6YBiwAHtxCmKvOHezgLXZb1gsU2X800AoM29Wnv+NL
+nJRc8YtoBr
> > HXaZ2pIhj8ubrvqbj8wHDo/efmPkb21NYZwNAeoc8KjvatGnX7LBTovGoKEKfAqn
> > HwZ92hTsL20aWWbn4ce9+qnCc/yRl2s6pSiIdEozDZ6UOxusZvAgAHsvuLiBVz0n
> > h+sOjHK0Bnk9Wer5wAR1OwpawZy5E83xo5VBMKDjhlvX+SO5SE9THiYxI9YjyGg=
> > =DL4c
> > -END PGP SIGNATURE-


My bad. I have the module "Soul text markup".  I did not know that was related 
to 
soul.module.  Apologies all around.

John

Re: https://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Modules/soul.module messages

[John White]

Pay attention guys and gals. layouts does not work.

John

On Friday, March 15, 2019 9:51:06 AM PDT Kornel Benko wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 14. März 2019 20:16:51 CET schrieb John White 
:
> > Thanks John, but, after reconfigure, that doesn't seem to work.
> > 
> >  *  johwhi@johwhi:~/.lyx/layouts$ ls
> > 
> > The modules seem to be in ~/.lyx/packages.lst or ~/.lyx/styFiles.lst and I
> > don't know how to edit those files.  At least I don't see them anywhere
> > else.vOnly thing in ~.lyx/ layouts is soul.module.
> > Perhaps I will have to break down and read the instructions. I use 2.3.2
> > on Debian stretch 64 bit.
> > John
> 
> This is the wrong directory. The subdir 'layouts' is the correct one.
> (For you  ~/.lyx/layouts)
> 
>   Kornel