Re: Conflict with Hyperref + Floats?
Hi, I just wanted to report that it worked. There were a few bits in the documentation that were a bit confusing, but otherwise worked well. I will have to confirm whether things work differently/better on 1.6 soon. Thanks.
Re: Conflict with Hyperref + Floats?
Hi, I just wanted to report that it worked. There were a few bits in the documentation that were a bit confusing, but otherwise worked well. I will have to confirm whether things work differently/better on 1.6 soon. Thanks.
Re: Conflict with Hyperref + Floats?
Hi, I just wanted to report that it worked. There were a few bits in the documentation that were a bit confusing, but otherwise worked well. I will have to confirm whether things work differently/better on 1.6 soon. Thanks.
Conflict with Hyperref + Floats?
HI, I posted a message yesterday about a problem I was having with algorithm floats. I did a lot of debugging and finally (after very long line by line debugging) found that the problem seems to be some sort of conflict when using the hyperref package. Can anyone else confirm this? Does anyone know of a work around? Any other advice/help is very welcome! Thanks, Ryan Cross
Conflict with Hyperref + Floats?
HI, I posted a message yesterday about a problem I was having with algorithm floats. I did a lot of debugging and finally (after very long line by line debugging) found that the problem seems to be some sort of conflict when using the hyperref package. Can anyone else confirm this? Does anyone know of a work around? Any other advice/help is very welcome! Thanks, Ryan Cross
Conflict with Hyperref + Floats?
HI, I posted a message yesterday about a problem I was having with algorithm floats. I did a lot of debugging and finally (after very long line by line debugging) found that the problem seems to be some sort of conflict when using the hyperref package. Can anyone else confirm this? Does anyone know of a work around? Any other advice/help is very welcome! Thanks, Ryan Cross
Problem with Algorithm Floats: Undefined Control Sequence
Hello, I'm having a weird problem with Algorithm Floats. I am using a master document with several child documents (one for each chapter). The odd thing is that when I compile/pdf the child document by itself, the algorithm floats seem to work just fine. However, when I try to compile/pdf the master document, I get an error: Undefined Control Sequence. In the details, it basically tells me that the algorithm command isn't defined correctly. I am using the 'report' class. Also using OSX 10.5 (leopard). On a related note, when using a program listing (without any algorithms) that seems to be fine. I am also trying ot understand the difference between the program listing, the algorithm float, and the lyx-code format, since they all seem to be similar to what I want. Please help! =)
Problem with Algorithm Floats: Undefined Control Sequence
Hello, I'm having a weird problem with Algorithm Floats. I am using a master document with several child documents (one for each chapter). The odd thing is that when I compile/pdf the child document by itself, the algorithm floats seem to work just fine. However, when I try to compile/pdf the master document, I get an error: Undefined Control Sequence. In the details, it basically tells me that the algorithm command isn't defined correctly. I am using the 'report' class. Also using OSX 10.5 (leopard). On a related note, when using a program listing (without any algorithms) that seems to be fine. I am also trying ot understand the difference between the program listing, the algorithm float, and the lyx-code format, since they all seem to be similar to what I want. Please help! =)
Problem with Algorithm Floats: Undefined Control Sequence
Hello, I'm having a weird problem with Algorithm Floats. I am using a master document with several child documents (one for each chapter). The odd thing is that when I compile/pdf the child document by itself, the algorithm floats seem to work just fine. However, when I try to compile/pdf the master document, I get an error: Undefined Control Sequence. In the details, it basically tells me that the algorithm command isn't defined correctly. I am using the 'report' class. Also using OSX 10.5 (leopard). On a related note, when using a program listing (without any algorithms) that seems to be fine. I am also trying ot understand the difference between the program listing, the algorithm float, and the lyx-code format, since they all seem to be similar to what I want. Please help! =)
Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?
I didn't read your whole post (also writing my thesis) but found this
highly helpful
http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T
It helps that I am a student at UNSW, but it might give you the right idea.
-Ryan
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:12 AM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
look at getting the appropriate style to work.
I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
using LyX for most of my writing.
When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
where needed, which has been a headache.
Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
this to the central details.
First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:
Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble
I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.
I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.
The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
does not have any effect on the output, correct?
So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.
In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
package, into lyx and tried to generate output.
First problem was that I got the following error:
LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.
Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.
All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
using \\, which is not in the document.
Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.
So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.
So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
the \maketitle command.
Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
directly on that tex document.
I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
edit the tex file after exporting?
Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?
Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?
Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?
I've attached a few files to make things more clear:
csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.
sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.
bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
the university specs when using latex by hand.
I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.
Thanks for your time,
any pointers or suggestions appreciated.
B. Bogart
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}
Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble
Format 4
Input stdclass.inc
SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*
Style Part
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
SizeLarger
EndFont
End
Style Part*
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
SizeLarger
EndFont
End
Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?
I didn't read your whole post (also writing my thesis) but found this
highly helpful
http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T
It helps that I am a student at UNSW, but it might give you the right idea.
-Ryan
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:12 AM, B. Bogart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello all,
I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
look at getting the appropriate style to work.
I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
using LyX for most of my writing.
When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
where needed, which has been a headache.
Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
this to the central details.
First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:
Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble
I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.
I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.
The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
does not have any effect on the output, correct?
So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.
In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
package, into lyx and tried to generate output.
First problem was that I got the following error:
LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.
Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.
All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
using \\, which is not in the document.
Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.
So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.
So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
the \maketitle command.
Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
directly on that tex document.
I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
edit the tex file after exporting?
Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?
Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?
Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?
I've attached a few files to make things more clear:
csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.
sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.
bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
the university specs when using latex by hand.
I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.
Thanks for your time,
any pointers or suggestions appreciated.
B. Bogart
#% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
# \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}
Preamble
\usepackage{csthesis}
EndPreamble
Format 4
Input stdclass.inc
SecNumDepth 3
TocDepth3
NoStyle Chapter
NoStyle Chapter*
Style Part
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
SizeLarger
EndFont
End
Style Part*
Align Left
AlignPossible Left
TopSep2
BottomSep 1.5
Font
SizeLarger
EndFont
End
Re: Best approach to using lyx with a university provided style file?
I didn't read your whole post (also writing my thesis) but found this
highly helpful
http://www.threewordslong.com/blog/entry/63/A_LyX_Thesis_Layout_for_UNSW_T
It helps that I am a student at UNSW, but it might give you the right idea.
-Ryan
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 5:12 AM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm just starting to work on my thesis and thought I would take a closer
> look at getting the appropriate style to work.
>
> I have to warn you all I've only made simple use of latex, and have been
> using LyX for most of my writing.
>
> When using an external format before I've simply exported the lyx file
> to latex, applied the new style for the conference, and edited by hand
> where needed, which has been a headache.
>
> Now the format for my thesis (in the form of a .sty file) makes my other
> formats simplistic, and I'm having lots of trouble. I'll try to reduce
> this to the central details.
>
> First I took the article.layout file, copied it into a new name, and
> added \usepackage{csthesis.sty} in the preamble section as such:
>
> Preamble
> \usepackage{csthesis}
> EndPreamble
>
> I also added and texhashed the sty file so that lyx could find it.
>
> I confirm that article(csthesis) is listed as a document class in Lyx.
>
> The layout file simply controls how the document appears in Lyx, and
> does not have any effect on the output, correct?
>
> So I generated a few DVIs and noticed that the example thesis, that came
> with the package, bears little resemblance to my own output.
>
> In order to test I imported the latex example file, included with the
> package, into lyx and tried to generate output.
>
> First problem was that I got the following error:
>
> LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.
>
> Lyx highlights the first \qualification{} command.
>
> All the google references I found talked about this error in terms of
> using \\, which is not in the document.
>
> Aside: I did notice that just before the qualification a \maketitle
> command in the view-source window. What I don't understand is that
> command is not visible as ERT or in any way in the normal lyx view.
>
> So I did the logical thing of commenting out (with a preceding % sign)
> in front of both the \qualification{} commands. Once that is done Lyx
> will generate output, the style of the title is incorrect.
>
> So I exported a second latex file from this document, and commented out
> the \maketitle command.
>
> Once that is done I can generate a proper looking document using latex
> directly on that tex document.
>
> I'm happy that I've been able to get something to work at all, but how
> can I use the proper style in LyX directly without having to manually
> edit the tex file after exporting?
>
> Why does the \maketitle command get added when I import the tex?
>
> Why does output bail on the \qualification{} commands?
>
> Why does the output of the document using the layout that uses the
> thesis style file not generate output that resembles the sample file?
>
> I've attached a few files to make things more clear:
>
> csthesis.sty is the University provided style file.
>
> sfuthesis.sty is a copy of article.layout with the csthesis package used.
>
> bbtest.tex is a shorted version of the sample text file that came with
> the university style file, without any hand-changes. Note it does not
> include a \makeletter command, but generates a nice title according to
> the university specs when using latex by hand.
>
> I may be the first person to use LyX with this style at my University,
> and considering how happy I am with LyX in general, I hope solving these
> issues will encourage students in the future to use LyX.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> any pointers or suggestions appreciated.
>
> B. Bogart
>
>
> #% Do not delete the line below; configure depends on this
> # \DeclareLaTeXClass[article,csthesis.sty]{article (sfuthesis)}
>
> Preamble
> \usepackage{csthesis}
> EndPreamble
>
> Format 4
> Input stdclass.inc
>
> SecNumDepth 3
> TocDepth3
>
> NoStyle Chapter
> NoStyle Chapter*
>
>
> Style Part
> Align Left
> AlignPossible Left
> TopSep2
> BottomSep 1.5
> Font
> SizeLarger
> EndFont
> End
>
>
> Style Part*
> Align Left
> AlignPossible Left
> TopSep2
> BottomSep 1.5
> Font
> SizeLarger
> EndFont
> End
>
>
>
Re: DocBook Support?
Hi, Yes, in many ways that is the *type* of information I'm looking for but as I have stated before, the documents are very specific that this only works for version 1.2 of LyX and do NOT work for anything newer. You can see this explicitly in this part of that doc http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/lyx.html I really do not want to use such an old version of LyX. The other thing I would *hope* is possible is to actually edit an existing docbook file. The reason for this is that I am attempting to use this process as a way of creating documentation for an open source project, and I'd like to be able to keep the source document as a docbook file and not as a lyx file - which I think would be required for the process outlined in those docs. I have seen this document before and I believe I linked to it before in a previous email, but I do really appreciate the assistance in pointing me in the right direction. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 19, 2008 8:43 PM, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/22/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. I'm wondering if it this [1] is what you're looking for. From the LyX Wikipedia entry [2]. Liviu [1] http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyx#Features
Re: DocBook Support?
Hi, Yes, in many ways that is the *type* of information I'm looking for but as I have stated before, the documents are very specific that this only works for version 1.2 of LyX and do NOT work for anything newer. You can see this explicitly in this part of that doc http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/lyx.html I really do not want to use such an old version of LyX. The other thing I would *hope* is possible is to actually edit an existing docbook file. The reason for this is that I am attempting to use this process as a way of creating documentation for an open source project, and I'd like to be able to keep the source document as a docbook file and not as a lyx file - which I think would be required for the process outlined in those docs. I have seen this document before and I believe I linked to it before in a previous email, but I do really appreciate the assistance in pointing me in the right direction. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 19, 2008 8:43 PM, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/22/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. I'm wondering if it this [1] is what you're looking for. From the LyX Wikipedia entry [2]. Liviu [1] http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyx#Features
Re: DocBook Support?
Hi, Yes, in many ways that is the *type* of information I'm looking for but as I have stated before, the documents are very specific that this only works for version 1.2 of LyX and do NOT work for anything newer. You can see this explicitly in this part of that doc http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/lyx.html I really do not want to use such an old version of LyX. The other thing I would *hope* is possible is to actually edit an existing docbook file. The reason for this is that I am attempting to use this process as a way of creating documentation for an open source project, and I'd like to be able to keep the source document as a docbook file and not as a lyx file - which I think would be required for the process outlined in those docs. I have seen this document before and I believe I linked to it before in a previous email, but I do really appreciate the assistance in pointing me in the right direction. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 19, 2008 8:43 PM, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 11/22/07, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook > > documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. Does > > anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. > > I'm wondering if it this [1] is what you're looking for. From the LyX > Wikipedia entry [2]. > > Liviu > > [1] http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyx#Features >
Re: DocBook Support?
Hey Jose, Are you feeling any better from your surgery? Hope your holidays went well too. Any chance you've had some time to write up some details about DocBook support? ;) Thanks, Ryan On Jan 4, 2008 11:06 PM, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote: Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-) Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki and then post a link here. -- José Abílio
Re: DocBook Support?
Hey Jose, Are you feeling any better from your surgery? Hope your holidays went well too. Any chance you've had some time to write up some details about DocBook support? ;) Thanks, Ryan On Jan 4, 2008 11:06 PM, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote: Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-) Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki and then post a link here. -- José Abílio
Re: DocBook Support?
Hey Jose, Are you feeling any better from your surgery? Hope your holidays went well too. Any chance you've had some time to write up some details about DocBook support? ;) Thanks, Ryan On Jan 4, 2008 11:06 PM, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote: > > Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx > > (with any current versions)? > > > > Thanks! > > -Ryan > > I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery > just > before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-) > > Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the > wiki > and then post a link here. > > -- > José Abílio >
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
Hey Bo, I renamed the local file and did a reconfigure and that seems to have worked - it also seems to have corrected the 0s issue. I'm working on both windows and mac (currently my mac), so I can't test the dev version till next week but will let you know. I should also note that I've been using these files with 1.5.2, 1.5.1, etc so I was surprised to see the issue but thanks for helping out. I would've never figured that out. Really glad to hear about the bundles support coming, I'm currently storing my figures in a subfolder so that at least all the paths are relative to the document which helps alot. I'm also curious - i have also heard that there is going to be a new file format that is XML-based. Is this going to be implemented for 1.6? Does this have ramifications for lyx being for other purposes besides just LaTeX? for example see my thread on docbook support. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 12, 2008 3:25 AM, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I do - I've got all my files in a working copy of an svn repo, so I decided to also keep a copy of the layout file there as well. Is this a new feature or something so that I don't need to install new layout classes in the system area? It is a new feature, and you have encountered a bug that I think I have fixed. (I would appreciate it if you can see if the problem persists with the latest development version such as http://www.lyx.org/~bpeng/LyX-1.5.4svn-2008-01-04-Installer.exe ). Begin with lyx 1.5.0, local, meaning in the same directory with the document, style file (.sty, .cls) and layout (.layout) file can be used directly by a document. You can not create such a document in lyx (unless you modify a .lyx file directly) because local .layout does not show up in the style list, but if you send your document, along with your layout and .cls file to your co-authors, they do not have to install anything to open and modify your file. This feature is not well-publicized because it is a precursor to a 'bundle' feature (due 1.6.0) with which you can bundle figures, layouts, bibtex etc to a single .lyx file. Your problem is caused by the repeated loading of the same local layout file by your child documents, which is a bug that I should have fixed. Is there a preference for which to remove? Also, will I need to do a reconfigure for it to take? You can use the latest svn if it fixes your problem, or remove local layout file. Removing system layout file may not work. And, just for good measure, any comment on why the 0s are appearing? is this related to the same issue? I am not sure about this one. If the problem persists after the layout problem is fixed, you can send a shrinked version of your document to me, or the lyx-users list. Cheers, Bo
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
Hey Bo, I renamed the local file and did a reconfigure and that seems to have worked - it also seems to have corrected the 0s issue. I'm working on both windows and mac (currently my mac), so I can't test the dev version till next week but will let you know. I should also note that I've been using these files with 1.5.2, 1.5.1, etc so I was surprised to see the issue but thanks for helping out. I would've never figured that out. Really glad to hear about the bundles support coming, I'm currently storing my figures in a subfolder so that at least all the paths are relative to the document which helps alot. I'm also curious - i have also heard that there is going to be a new file format that is XML-based. Is this going to be implemented for 1.6? Does this have ramifications for lyx being for other purposes besides just LaTeX? for example see my thread on docbook support. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 12, 2008 3:25 AM, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I do - I've got all my files in a working copy of an svn repo, so I decided to also keep a copy of the layout file there as well. Is this a new feature or something so that I don't need to install new layout classes in the system area? It is a new feature, and you have encountered a bug that I think I have fixed. (I would appreciate it if you can see if the problem persists with the latest development version such as http://www.lyx.org/~bpeng/LyX-1.5.4svn-2008-01-04-Installer.exe ). Begin with lyx 1.5.0, local, meaning in the same directory with the document, style file (.sty, .cls) and layout (.layout) file can be used directly by a document. You can not create such a document in lyx (unless you modify a .lyx file directly) because local .layout does not show up in the style list, but if you send your document, along with your layout and .cls file to your co-authors, they do not have to install anything to open and modify your file. This feature is not well-publicized because it is a precursor to a 'bundle' feature (due 1.6.0) with which you can bundle figures, layouts, bibtex etc to a single .lyx file. Your problem is caused by the repeated loading of the same local layout file by your child documents, which is a bug that I should have fixed. Is there a preference for which to remove? Also, will I need to do a reconfigure for it to take? You can use the latest svn if it fixes your problem, or remove local layout file. Removing system layout file may not work. And, just for good measure, any comment on why the 0s are appearing? is this related to the same issue? I am not sure about this one. If the problem persists after the layout problem is fixed, you can send a shrinked version of your document to me, or the lyx-users list. Cheers, Bo
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
Hey Bo, I renamed the local file and did a reconfigure and that seems to have worked - it also seems to have corrected the "0"s issue. I'm working on both windows and mac (currently my mac), so I can't test the dev version till next week but will let you know. I should also note that I've been using these files with 1.5.2, 1.5.1, etc so I was surprised to see the issue but thanks for helping out. I would've never figured that out. Really glad to hear about the bundles support coming, I'm currently storing my figures in a subfolder so that at least all the paths are relative to the document which helps alot. I'm also curious - i have also heard that there is going to be a new file format that is XML-based. Is this going to be implemented for 1.6? Does this have ramifications for lyx being for other purposes besides just LaTeX? for example see my thread on docbook support. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 12, 2008 3:25 AM, Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, I do - I've got all my files in a working copy of an svn repo, so I > > decided to also keep a copy of the layout file there as well. Is this a > new > > feature or something so that I don't need to "install" new layout > classes in > > the system area? > > It is a new feature, and you have encountered a bug that I think I > have fixed. (I would appreciate it if you can see if the problem > persists with > the latest development version such as > http://www.lyx.org/~bpeng/LyX-1.5.4svn-2008-01-04-Installer.exe ). > > Begin with lyx 1.5.0, local, meaning in the same directory with the > document, style file (.sty, .cls) and layout (.layout) file can be > used directly by a document. You can not create such a document in lyx > (unless you modify a .lyx file directly) because local .layout does > not show up in the style list, but if you send your document, along > with your layout and .cls file to your co-authors, they do not have to > install anything to open and modify your file. This feature is not > well-publicized because it is a precursor to a 'bundle' feature (due > 1.6.0) with which you can bundle figures, layouts, bibtex etc to a > single .lyx file. > > Your problem is caused by the repeated loading of the same local > layout file by your child documents, which is a bug that I should have > fixed. > > > Is there a preference for which to remove? Also, will I need to do a > > reconfigure for it to take? > > You can use the latest svn if it fixes your problem, or remove local > layout file. Removing system layout file may not work. > > > And, just for good measure, any comment on why the "0"s are appearing? > is > > this related to the same issue? > > I am not sure about this one. If the problem persists after the layout > problem is fixed, you can send a shrinked version of your document to > me, or the lyx-users list. > > Cheers, > Bo >
Re: Feature Request - new file command from insert file dialog box.
Yes, I meant in the Child Document Dialog (though there are other dialogs for inserting files that might benefit from a similar function). I have created this issue - http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4475please let me know if it is insufficient. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:27 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but it dawned on me today that it would be really useful if I could have an option in the insert file dialog box to create a new file, You mean in the 'Child Document' dialog right? instead of just browsing for an existing one. Ideally, this option would create a new lyx file will all the appropriate document settings from the parent file. Yes, that would be helpful, please put an enhancement entry in 'bugzilla.lyx.org'. Abdel.
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
I have tried running a reconfigure, I still get the same error. Included file `D:\general_svn\UNSWResearch\Thesis\introduction.lyx' has textclass `unswthesis' while parent file has textclass `unswthesis' I am not sure why there is a problem here, this is the second time that I have installed 1.5.3 and I would like to use it because of the outline bug that was corrected, but if I can't compile documents with it, it doesnt' make much use. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:29 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. This is weird as the 1.5.x series are not supposed to have any format change. Please try to reconfigure 1.5.3 to see if it helps. Abdel.
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
I'm going to fight through this for a day or two while i await some more advice on how to fix this, otherwise I'll revert back again. However, I'm noticing another issue - possibly related - which is with the supposedly fixed chapter layout in the outliner. It now properly shows the chapter headings (previously did not in 1.5.2) but now none of the section headings are properly numbered, they are all 0s and in the appendicies, just ?s for the section headings. Any one else know about this? -Ryan On Jan 11, 2008 12:03 PM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried running a reconfigure, I still get the same error. Included file `D:\general_svn\UNSWResearch\Thesis\introduction.lyx' has textclass `unswthesis' while parent file has textclass `unswthesis' I am not sure why there is a problem here, this is the second time that I have installed 1.5.3 and I would like to use it because of the outline bug that was corrected, but if I can't compile documents with it, it doesnt' make much use. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:29 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. This is weird as the 1.5.x series are not supposed to have any format change. Please try to reconfigure 1.5.3 to see if it helps. Abdel.
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
Yes, I do - I've got all my files in a working copy of an svn repo, so I decided to also keep a copy of the layout file there as well. Is this a new feature or something so that I don't need to install new layout classes in the system area? Is there a preference for which to remove? Also, will I need to do a reconfigure for it to take? And, just for good measure, any comment on why the 0s are appearing? is this related to the same issue? Thanks, Ryan (P.S. sorry for the double post Bo, forgot to include the list) On 1/11/08, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 7:30 PM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to fight through this for a day or two while i await some more advice on how to fix this, otherwise I'll revert back again. However, I'm noticing another issue - possibly related - which is with the supposedly fixed chapter layout in the outliner. It now properly shows the chapter headings (previously did not in 1.5.2) but now none of the section headings are properly numbered, they are all 0s and in the appendicies, just ?s for the section headings. Any one else know about this? I think I know what is going on. Do you have a local unswthesis.layout file as well a system one, or things of that sort? If so, please remove your local one (the one in your document path) or your system one (the one under ~/.lyx/layouts). Bo
Re: Feature Request - new file command from insert file dialog box.
Yes, I meant in the Child Document Dialog (though there are other dialogs for inserting files that might benefit from a similar function). I have created this issue - http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4475please let me know if it is insufficient. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:27 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but it dawned on me today that it would be really useful if I could have an option in the insert file dialog box to create a new file, You mean in the 'Child Document' dialog right? instead of just browsing for an existing one. Ideally, this option would create a new lyx file will all the appropriate document settings from the parent file. Yes, that would be helpful, please put an enhancement entry in 'bugzilla.lyx.org'. Abdel.
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
I have tried running a reconfigure, I still get the same error. Included file `D:\general_svn\UNSWResearch\Thesis\introduction.lyx' has textclass `unswthesis' while parent file has textclass `unswthesis' I am not sure why there is a problem here, this is the second time that I have installed 1.5.3 and I would like to use it because of the outline bug that was corrected, but if I can't compile documents with it, it doesnt' make much use. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:29 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. This is weird as the 1.5.x series are not supposed to have any format change. Please try to reconfigure 1.5.3 to see if it helps. Abdel.
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
I'm going to fight through this for a day or two while i await some more advice on how to fix this, otherwise I'll revert back again. However, I'm noticing another issue - possibly related - which is with the supposedly fixed chapter layout in the outliner. It now properly shows the chapter headings (previously did not in 1.5.2) but now none of the section headings are properly numbered, they are all 0s and in the appendicies, just ?s for the section headings. Any one else know about this? -Ryan On Jan 11, 2008 12:03 PM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried running a reconfigure, I still get the same error. Included file `D:\general_svn\UNSWResearch\Thesis\introduction.lyx' has textclass `unswthesis' while parent file has textclass `unswthesis' I am not sure why there is a problem here, this is the second time that I have installed 1.5.3 and I would like to use it because of the outline bug that was corrected, but if I can't compile documents with it, it doesnt' make much use. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:29 PM, Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. This is weird as the 1.5.x series are not supposed to have any format change. Please try to reconfigure 1.5.3 to see if it helps. Abdel.
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
Yes, I do - I've got all my files in a working copy of an svn repo, so I decided to also keep a copy of the layout file there as well. Is this a new feature or something so that I don't need to install new layout classes in the system area? Is there a preference for which to remove? Also, will I need to do a reconfigure for it to take? And, just for good measure, any comment on why the 0s are appearing? is this related to the same issue? Thanks, Ryan (P.S. sorry for the double post Bo, forgot to include the list) On 1/11/08, Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 10, 2008 7:30 PM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to fight through this for a day or two while i await some more advice on how to fix this, otherwise I'll revert back again. However, I'm noticing another issue - possibly related - which is with the supposedly fixed chapter layout in the outliner. It now properly shows the chapter headings (previously did not in 1.5.2) but now none of the section headings are properly numbered, they are all 0s and in the appendicies, just ?s for the section headings. Any one else know about this? I think I know what is going on. Do you have a local unswthesis.layout file as well a system one, or things of that sort? If so, please remove your local one (the one in your document path) or your system one (the one under ~/.lyx/layouts). Bo
Re: Feature Request - new file command from insert file dialog box.
Yes, I meant in the Child Document Dialog (though there are other dialogs for inserting files that might benefit from a similar function). I have created this issue - http://bugzilla.lyx.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4475please let me know if it is insufficient. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:27 PM, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Cross wrote: > > Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but it dawned on > me > > today that it would be really useful if I could have an option in the > insert > > file dialog box to create a new file, > > You mean in the 'Child Document' dialog right? > > > instead of just browsing for an > > existing one. Ideally, this option would create a new lyx file will all > the > > appropriate document settings from the parent file. > > Yes, that would be helpful, please put an enhancement entry in > 'bugzilla.lyx.org'. > > Abdel. > >
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
I have tried running a reconfigure, I still get the same error. Included file `D:\general_svn\UNSWResearch\Thesis\introduction.lyx' has textclass `unswthesis' while parent file has textclass `unswthesis' I am not sure why there is a problem here, this is the second time that I have installed 1.5.3 and I would like to use it because of the outline bug that was corrected, but if I can't compile documents with it, it doesnt' make much use. -Ryan On Jan 10, 2008 6:29 PM, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Cross wrote: > > HI, > > > > I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a > file > > that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf > (and > > thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child > docs > > have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes > are > > the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are > > identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. > > This is weird as the 1.5.x series are not supposed to have any format > change. Please try to reconfigure 1.5.3 to see if it helps. > > Abdel. > >
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
I'm going to fight through this for a day or two while i await some more advice on how to fix this, otherwise I'll revert back again. However, I'm noticing another issue - possibly related - which is with the supposedly fixed chapter layout in the outliner. It now properly shows the chapter headings (previously did not in 1.5.2) but now none of the section headings are properly numbered, they are all "0"s and in the appendicies, just "?"s for the section headings. Any one else know about this? -Ryan On Jan 11, 2008 12:03 PM, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have tried running a reconfigure, I still get the same error. > > Included file `D:\general_svn\UNSWResearch\Thesis\introduction.lyx' > has textclass `unswthesis' > while parent file has textclass `unswthesis' > > I am not sure why there is a problem here, this is the second time that I > have installed 1.5.3 and I would like to use it because of the outline bug > that was corrected, but if I can't compile documents with it, it doesnt' > make much use. > > -Ryan > > > On Jan 10, 2008 6:29 PM, Abdelrazak Younes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ryan Cross wrote: > > > HI, > > > > > > I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a > > file > > > that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf > > (and > > > thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child > > docs > > > have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes > > are > > > the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are > > > > > identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. > > > > This is weird as the 1.5.x series are not supposed to have any format > > change. Please try to reconfigure 1.5.3 to see if it helps. > > > > Abdel. > > > > >
Re: 1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
Yes, I do - I've got all my files in a working copy of an svn repo, so I decided to also keep a copy of the layout file there as well. Is this a new feature or something so that I don't need to "install" new layout classes in the system area? Is there a preference for which to remove? Also, will I need to do a reconfigure for it to take? And, just for good measure, any comment on why the "0"s are appearing? is this related to the same issue? Thanks, Ryan (P.S. sorry for the double post Bo, forgot to include the list) On 1/11/08, Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2008 7:30 PM, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm going to fight through this for a day or two while i await some more > > advice on how to fix this, otherwise I'll revert back again. However, > I'm > > noticing another issue - possibly related - which is with the supposedly > > fixed chapter layout in the outliner. It now properly shows the chapter > > headings (previously did not in 1.5.2) but now none of the section > headings > > are properly numbered, they are all "0"s and in the appendicies, just > "?"s > > for the section headings. Any one else know about this? > > I think I know what is going on. Do you have a local unswthesis.layout > file as well a system one, or things of that sort? If so, please > remove your local one (the one in your document path) or your system > one (the one under ~/.lyx/layouts). > > Bo >
Re: DocBook Support?
I looked into dblatex a bit - but I don't think this would quite work for me since it doesn't provide the ability to author docbook files with Lyx. It is only geared towards taking docbook files and then converting them to latex for processing into pdfs, etc. Still looking forward to the docbook documentation. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 4, 2008 11:10 PM, Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: José Matos wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote: Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-) Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki and then post a link here. Has anyone tried dblatex to work with docbook in lyx? Seems like a perfect fit.
1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. Can anyone shed some light? I've had a few little issues previously where lyx was robust to a problem in a file, and upon upgrading it was more strict and thus caught what should've been caught before - but this seems like a different issue unless Im not supposed to be declaring a text class in the child documents or something of that nature. Thanks, Ryan
Feature Request - new file command from insert file dialog box.
Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but it dawned on me today that it would be really useful if I could have an option in the insert file dialog box to create a new file, instead of just browsing for an existing one. Ideally, this option would create a new lyx file will all the appropriate document settings from the parent file. Maybe there is already a way to do this, in which case hopefully someone can just point it out to me and the developers could just add a link there. -Ryan
Re: DocBook Support?
I looked into dblatex a bit - but I don't think this would quite work for me since it doesn't provide the ability to author docbook files with Lyx. It is only geared towards taking docbook files and then converting them to latex for processing into pdfs, etc. Still looking forward to the docbook documentation. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 4, 2008 11:10 PM, Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: José Matos wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote: Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery just before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-) Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to the wiki and then post a link here. Has anyone tried dblatex to work with docbook in lyx? Seems like a perfect fit.
1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. Can anyone shed some light? I've had a few little issues previously where lyx was robust to a problem in a file, and upon upgrading it was more strict and thus caught what should've been caught before - but this seems like a different issue unless Im not supposed to be declaring a text class in the child documents or something of that nature. Thanks, Ryan
Feature Request - new file command from insert file dialog box.
Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but it dawned on me today that it would be really useful if I could have an option in the insert file dialog box to create a new file, instead of just browsing for an existing one. Ideally, this option would create a new lyx file will all the appropriate document settings from the parent file. Maybe there is already a way to do this, in which case hopefully someone can just point it out to me and the developers could just add a link there. -Ryan
Re: DocBook Support?
I looked into dblatex a bit - but I don't think this would quite work for me since it doesn't provide the ability to author docbook files with Lyx. It is only geared towards taking docbook files and then converting them to latex for processing into pdfs, etc. Still looking forward to the docbook documentation. Thanks, Ryan On Jan 4, 2008 11:10 PM, Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > José Matos wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 January 2008 08:03:52 Ryan Cross wrote: > >> Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for > Lyx > >> (with any current versions)? > >> > >> Thanks! > >> -Ryan > > > > I am sorry for the delay. I have been recovering from a small surgery > > just > > before the holidays, and now I am recovering from the holidays. :-) > > > > Expect new documentation next week. I will add the documentation to > the > > wiki > > and then post a link here. > > > > Has anyone tried dblatex to work with docbook in lyx? Seems like a > perfect fit. > >
1.5.3 bug? - using child documents with same class causing error
HI, I decided to upgrade to 1.5.3 today (windows) and tried working with a file that has several child documents included. When trying to view the pdf (and thus opening all the child docs), I am getting an error that the child docs have a different text class than the parent file. However, the classes are the same - I even did a diff on the files and the text class lines are identical. I rolled back to 1.5.2 and didn't have any issues there. Can anyone shed some light? I've had a few little issues previously where lyx was robust to a problem in a file, and upon upgrading it was more strict and thus caught what should've been caught before - but this seems like a different issue unless I"m not supposed to be declaring a text class in the child documents or something of that nature. Thanks, Ryan
Feature Request - new file command from insert file dialog box.
Not sure if this would be the best place to post this, but it dawned on me today that it would be really useful if I could have an option in the insert file dialog box to create a new file, instead of just browsing for an existing one. Ideally, this option would create a new lyx file will all the appropriate document settings from the parent file. Maybe there is already a way to do this, in which case hopefully someone can just point it out to me and the developers could just add a link there. -Ryan
Re: DocBook Support?
Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 AM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jose, Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting. Thanks, Ryan On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-) We're all waiting for this ^_^. Regards, Liviu
Re: DocBook Support?
Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 AM, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Jose, Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting. Thanks, Ryan On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-) We're all waiting for this ^_^. Regards, Liviu
Re: DocBook Support?
Bump... Can anyone provide some guidance on working with DocBook for Lyx (with any current versions)? Thanks! -Ryan On Dec 18, 2007 9:11 AM, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey Jose, > > Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using > Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting. > > Thanks, > Ryan > > > On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > FWIW, > > you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is > > only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm > > still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx > > for obvious reasons > > > > Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and > > http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ > > > > I eagerly and anxiously await your input. > > > > -Ryan > > > > On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On 11/27/07, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly > > > interested in > > > > > docbook though) > > > > > > > > I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I > > > will > > > > return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month > > > fortunately). :-) > > > > > > We're all waiting for this ^_^. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Liviu > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Lyx on Mac
uhh... maybe try using the latest version..1.5.3 On 12/28/07, Gzesiek Sójka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I'm trying to install the Lyx-1.3.7-Mac on my MacBook with OS X 1.4. Unfortunately I always get following error: *** LyX 1.3.7 installation script *** Fri Dec 28 11:45:14 CET 2007 Now locating TeX binaries ... ** ERROR: Cannot find teTeX installation. Please install TeX and run this script again. logout [Process completed] I installed i-Installer and tried two different TeX packages. The first one was: gwTeX based on TeX Live and the second was: DEPRICATED gwTeX based on teTeX and TeX Live In both cases I still get the some error message. Note that this is my firs time working on Mac so please give me step- by-step instructions. Thanks for an help in advance. Sincerely yours Grzesiek Sójka
Re: Lyx on Mac (pleeeeeeeeeeeeease help!!)
Make sure to send your responses back to the list. It would make sense to also use the most recent version on other machines too. There are significant improvements and bug fixes to justify the upgrade plus you'll get better support ;) i am not sure how to deal with 1.3.7 for mac. Also, i wouldn't be surprised if differences between i-Installer versions is the reason you're having issues. you might need to also use an older version of Latex and related binaries. -Ryan On 12/29/07, Grzegorz Sójka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: uhh... maybe try using the latest version..1.5.3 I'm trying to use this version because of compatibility reasons with other (non-mac) machines I'm currently using. By the way: I'm linux user, so if someone gives me a hint how to extract this installation script from the package then I'm probably will be able to solve the problem by myself. On 12/28/07, Gzesiek Sójka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I'm trying to install the Lyx-1.3.7-Mac on my MacBook with OS X 1.4. Unfortunately I always get following error: *** LyX 1.3.7 installation script *** Fri Dec 28 11:45:14 CET 2007 Now locating TeX binaries ... ** ERROR: Cannot find teTeX installation. Please install TeX and run this script again. logout [Process completed] I installed i-Installer and tried two different TeX packages. The first one was: gwTeX based on TeX Live and the second was: DEPRICATED gwTeX based on teTeX and TeX Live In both cases I still get the some error message. Note that this is my firs time working on Mac so please give me step- by-step instructions. -- __Pozdrówka___ /___ ___ ___ ______ / _ /__/ ___/ /_ /__ / /_ /_/ /__/ / | /__ /__ ___/ / /__ / |
Re: Lyx on Mac
uhh... maybe try using the latest version..1.5.3 On 12/28/07, Gzesiek Sójka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I'm trying to install the Lyx-1.3.7-Mac on my MacBook with OS X 1.4. Unfortunately I always get following error: *** LyX 1.3.7 installation script *** Fri Dec 28 11:45:14 CET 2007 Now locating TeX binaries ... ** ERROR: Cannot find teTeX installation. Please install TeX and run this script again. logout [Process completed] I installed i-Installer and tried two different TeX packages. The first one was: gwTeX based on TeX Live and the second was: DEPRICATED gwTeX based on teTeX and TeX Live In both cases I still get the some error message. Note that this is my firs time working on Mac so please give me step- by-step instructions. Thanks for an help in advance. Sincerely yours Grzesiek Sójka
Re: Lyx on Mac (pleeeeeeeeeeeeease help!!)
Make sure to send your responses back to the list. It would make sense to also use the most recent version on other machines too. There are significant improvements and bug fixes to justify the upgrade plus you'll get better support ;) i am not sure how to deal with 1.3.7 for mac. Also, i wouldn't be surprised if differences between i-Installer versions is the reason you're having issues. you might need to also use an older version of Latex and related binaries. -Ryan On 12/29/07, Grzegorz Sójka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: uhh... maybe try using the latest version..1.5.3 I'm trying to use this version because of compatibility reasons with other (non-mac) machines I'm currently using. By the way: I'm linux user, so if someone gives me a hint how to extract this installation script from the package then I'm probably will be able to solve the problem by myself. On 12/28/07, Gzesiek Sójka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there I'm trying to install the Lyx-1.3.7-Mac on my MacBook with OS X 1.4. Unfortunately I always get following error: *** LyX 1.3.7 installation script *** Fri Dec 28 11:45:14 CET 2007 Now locating TeX binaries ... ** ERROR: Cannot find teTeX installation. Please install TeX and run this script again. logout [Process completed] I installed i-Installer and tried two different TeX packages. The first one was: gwTeX based on TeX Live and the second was: DEPRICATED gwTeX based on teTeX and TeX Live In both cases I still get the some error message. Note that this is my firs time working on Mac so please give me step- by-step instructions. -- __Pozdrówka___ /___ ___ ___ ______ / _ /__/ ___/ /_ /__ / /_ /_/ /__/ / | /__ /__ ___/ / /__ / |
Re: Lyx on Mac
uhh... maybe try using the latest version..1.5.3 On 12/28/07, Gzesiek Sójka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi there > > I'm trying to install the Lyx-1.3.7-Mac on my MacBook with OS X 1.4. > Unfortunately I always get following error: > > *** LyX 1.3.7 installation script *** > > Fri Dec 28 11:45:14 CET 2007 > > > Now locating TeX binaries ... > ** ERROR: Cannot find teTeX installation. Please install TeX and run > this > script again. > logout > [Process completed] > > > I installed i-Installer and tried two different TeX packages. The > first one was: > gwTeX based on TeX Live > and the second was: > DEPRICATED gwTeX based on teTeX and TeX Live > In both cases I still get the some error message. > Note that this is my firs time working on Mac so please give me step- > by-step instructions. > > Thanks for an help in advance. > > Sincerely yours > > Grzesiek Sójka
Re: Lyx on Mac (pleeeeeeeeeeeeease help!!)
Make sure to send your responses back to the list. It would make sense to also use the most recent version on other machines too. There are significant improvements and bug fixes to justify the upgrade plus you'll get better support ;) i am not sure how to deal with 1.3.7 for mac. Also, i wouldn't be surprised if differences between i-Installer versions is the reason you're having issues. you might need to also use an older version of Latex and related binaries. -Ryan On 12/29/07, Grzegorz Sójka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ryan Cross wrote: > > uhh... maybe try using the latest version..1.5.3 > > I'm trying to use this version because of compatibility reasons with > other (non-mac) machines I'm currently using. > > By the way: I'm linux user, so if someone gives me a hint how to extract > this installation script from the package then I'm probably will be able > to solve the problem by myself. > > > > > On 12/28/07, Gzesiek Sójka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hi there > >> > >> I'm trying to install the Lyx-1.3.7-Mac on my MacBook with OS X 1.4. > >> Unfortunately I always get following error: > >> > >> *** LyX 1.3.7 installation script *** > >> > >> Fri Dec 28 11:45:14 CET 2007 > >> > >> > >> Now locating TeX binaries ... > >> ** ERROR: Cannot find teTeX installation. Please install TeX and run > >> this > >> script again. > >> logout > >> [Process completed] > >> > >> > >> I installed i-Installer and tried two different TeX packages. The > >> first one was: > >> gwTeX based on TeX Live > >> and the second was: > >> DEPRICATED gwTeX based on teTeX and TeX Live > >> In both cases I still get the some error message. > >> Note that this is my firs time working on Mac so please give me step- > >> by-step instructions. > > > -- >__Pozdrówka___ > /___ ___ ___ ______ > / _ /__/ ___/ /_ /__ / /_ /_/ > /__/ / | /__ /__ ___/ / /__ / | >
Re: Some Inconvenient Truths...
I haven't tested it, but it can't be any worse than the super long way that he is already trying. -Ryan On 12/24/07, Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: I completely sypathize with you and using equations in my documents is one of the main reason I use latex. Just a thought though to perhaps ease the pain of transition. How about taking your ms word file, converting it into an open office file and then from there using the conversion from open office (ODF) to lyx/latex. I think there is also a fairly reliable converter between lyx/odt to go back and forth if you need to, but check the wiki for more details. skeptic_mode Does this actually work with math? /skeptic_mode
Re: Some Inconvenient Truths...
I haven't tested it, but it can't be any worse than the super long way that he is already trying. -Ryan On 12/24/07, Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan Cross wrote: I completely sypathize with you and using equations in my documents is one of the main reason I use latex. Just a thought though to perhaps ease the pain of transition. How about taking your ms word file, converting it into an open office file and then from there using the conversion from open office (ODF) to lyx/latex. I think there is also a fairly reliable converter between lyx/odt to go back and forth if you need to, but check the wiki for more details. skeptic_mode Does this actually work with math? /skeptic_mode
Re: Some Inconvenient Truths...
I haven't tested it, but it can't be any worse than the super long way that he is already trying. -Ryan On 12/24/07, Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ryan Cross wrote: > > > I completely sypathize with you and using equations in my documents is > one > > of the main reason I use latex. Just a thought though to perhaps ease > the > > pain of transition. How about taking your ms word file, converting it > into > > an open office file and then from there using the conversion from open > > office (ODF) to lyx/latex. I think there is also a fairly reliable > > converter between lyx/odt to go back and forth if you need to, but check > > the wiki for more details. > > > > > Does this actually work with math? > > >
Re: Some Inconvenient Truths...
Hey Roger, I completely sypathize with you and using equations in my documents is one of the main reason I use latex. Just a thought though to perhaps ease the pain of transition. How about taking your ms word file, converting it into an open office file and then from there using the conversion from open office (ODF) to lyx/latex. I think there is also a fairly reliable converter between lyx/odt to go back and forth if you need to, but check the wiki for more details. Also, you should consider trying some of the keyboard short cuts to input equations in lyx - most of the latex ones work - since it really helps speed up the equation writing process. I find that since I'm able to use the keyboard to enter about 85% of the equation, and the other 15% I use the math toolbar for some of the more uncommon math characters (or the ones i don't know the keyboard shortcut for), that I can practically write all of my equations and in about 1/3 of the time it would take me to write it in equation editor. Plus, all my equations look so much better when printed. My only point here, is that if you need to edit your equations anyways it might be relatively easy to just rewrite any equations you need in lyx and then you'll end up with a fully working lyx document - plus its something you can put under revision control (like subversion). Good luck, Ryan On 12/23/07, Roger A. Wehage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I.T. #1: Using MathType with MS Word sucks. Big Time! I.T. #2: Our project at work is in big trouble. If we don't get our computer program working by the middle of February 2008, all funding will be cut and years of effort will go down the drain. I.T. #3: The theory for this computer program lies in a 48 page MS Word document (created in Microsoft Office 2000 on a PC) containing many hundreds of MathType expressions. It must be revised by January 2, 2008, so work can begin on revising the computer program. I.T. #4: The company is closed down between December 22, 2007 and January 1, 2008, so I must revise the document at home on my own time. :o( I.T. #5: I don't own a PC. I've never owned a PC. And I don't have a PC laptop that I can bring home from work. So I loaded the MS Word document onto my flash memory stick and transferred it to my MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, running OS X 10.4.11. I.T. #6: MS Word 2004, running on my MacBook Pro, reliably crashes (every time) when I attempt to convert the MathType expressions in this file from PC to Mac. I.T. #7: While contemplating what to do about this, I again play around with LyX, practicing making equations in its editor. And what I've learned so far is that it's almost as easy to create expressions in LyX's editor as it is in MathType. :o) I.T. #8: Earlier this week, I discovered a fantastic program called GrindEQ http://www.grindeq.com which unfortunately runs only on PCs, that will convert my many MS Word documents (including MathType expressions) to LaTeX, which can then be imported directly into LyX. Yes! Goodbye MS Word! I.T. #9: I don't have time right now to convert the 48 page MS Word document to LaTex and clean it up, and I still have some learning and practice before I can reliably use LyX to create and edit my documents. But I was able to convert the 48 page MS Word document to LaTex, and the results in LyX look very encouraging! I.T. #10: I found an inconvenient workaround to convert the 48 page MS Word document created on a PC to an MS Word document that can be viewed and edited in MS Word 2004 running on my MacBook Pro. It isn't pretty and requires a considerable amount of prayer and alcoholic spirits. :o( But it can be done. I.T. #11: Before doing anything, I make a backup copy of the file. More on that later. I.T. #12: The file must then be converted in little pieces. It seems that MS Word 2004 can't handle more than about 200 expressions at a time. I.T. #13: I use the mouse to select that portion of the document I want to convert. But not too much, or I'll violate the 200 expression rule and MS Word will crash and I'll have to start all over again. Then I instruct MathType to convert the selected segment of the document and wait several minutes while meaningless garbage floats across the screen. This is a good time to have another beer and go play around with LyX. And for some, prayer might help, but not for me since I'm an Atheist. I.T. #14: If I'm lucky and MS Word hasn't crashed and the funny stuff has stopped flashing across the screen, I can (I'd better) save the file or I'll risk losing all the changes I've made so far. Don't laugh, damn it, it happened more than once. :o( I.T. #15: And it keeps getting better. (Time for another beer or maybe something stronger.) After I've saved the file I must then quit out of MS Word and relaunch it before converting the next segment of the file. If I don't, then MS Word will crash and quit for me, and I'll have
Re: Some Inconvenient Truths...
Hey Roger, I completely sypathize with you and using equations in my documents is one of the main reason I use latex. Just a thought though to perhaps ease the pain of transition. How about taking your ms word file, converting it into an open office file and then from there using the conversion from open office (ODF) to lyx/latex. I think there is also a fairly reliable converter between lyx/odt to go back and forth if you need to, but check the wiki for more details. Also, you should consider trying some of the keyboard short cuts to input equations in lyx - most of the latex ones work - since it really helps speed up the equation writing process. I find that since I'm able to use the keyboard to enter about 85% of the equation, and the other 15% I use the math toolbar for some of the more uncommon math characters (or the ones i don't know the keyboard shortcut for), that I can practically write all of my equations and in about 1/3 of the time it would take me to write it in equation editor. Plus, all my equations look so much better when printed. My only point here, is that if you need to edit your equations anyways it might be relatively easy to just rewrite any equations you need in lyx and then you'll end up with a fully working lyx document - plus its something you can put under revision control (like subversion). Good luck, Ryan On 12/23/07, Roger A. Wehage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I.T. #1: Using MathType with MS Word sucks. Big Time! I.T. #2: Our project at work is in big trouble. If we don't get our computer program working by the middle of February 2008, all funding will be cut and years of effort will go down the drain. I.T. #3: The theory for this computer program lies in a 48 page MS Word document (created in Microsoft Office 2000 on a PC) containing many hundreds of MathType expressions. It must be revised by January 2, 2008, so work can begin on revising the computer program. I.T. #4: The company is closed down between December 22, 2007 and January 1, 2008, so I must revise the document at home on my own time. :o( I.T. #5: I don't own a PC. I've never owned a PC. And I don't have a PC laptop that I can bring home from work. So I loaded the MS Word document onto my flash memory stick and transferred it to my MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, running OS X 10.4.11. I.T. #6: MS Word 2004, running on my MacBook Pro, reliably crashes (every time) when I attempt to convert the MathType expressions in this file from PC to Mac. I.T. #7: While contemplating what to do about this, I again play around with LyX, practicing making equations in its editor. And what I've learned so far is that it's almost as easy to create expressions in LyX's editor as it is in MathType. :o) I.T. #8: Earlier this week, I discovered a fantastic program called GrindEQ http://www.grindeq.com which unfortunately runs only on PCs, that will convert my many MS Word documents (including MathType expressions) to LaTeX, which can then be imported directly into LyX. Yes! Goodbye MS Word! I.T. #9: I don't have time right now to convert the 48 page MS Word document to LaTex and clean it up, and I still have some learning and practice before I can reliably use LyX to create and edit my documents. But I was able to convert the 48 page MS Word document to LaTex, and the results in LyX look very encouraging! I.T. #10: I found an inconvenient workaround to convert the 48 page MS Word document created on a PC to an MS Word document that can be viewed and edited in MS Word 2004 running on my MacBook Pro. It isn't pretty and requires a considerable amount of prayer and alcoholic spirits. :o( But it can be done. I.T. #11: Before doing anything, I make a backup copy of the file. More on that later. I.T. #12: The file must then be converted in little pieces. It seems that MS Word 2004 can't handle more than about 200 expressions at a time. I.T. #13: I use the mouse to select that portion of the document I want to convert. But not too much, or I'll violate the 200 expression rule and MS Word will crash and I'll have to start all over again. Then I instruct MathType to convert the selected segment of the document and wait several minutes while meaningless garbage floats across the screen. This is a good time to have another beer and go play around with LyX. And for some, prayer might help, but not for me since I'm an Atheist. I.T. #14: If I'm lucky and MS Word hasn't crashed and the funny stuff has stopped flashing across the screen, I can (I'd better) save the file or I'll risk losing all the changes I've made so far. Don't laugh, damn it, it happened more than once. :o( I.T. #15: And it keeps getting better. (Time for another beer or maybe something stronger.) After I've saved the file I must then quit out of MS Word and relaunch it before converting the next segment of the file. If I don't, then MS Word will crash and quit for me, and I'll have
Re: Some Inconvenient Truths...
Hey Roger, I completely sypathize with you and using equations in my documents is one of the main reason I use latex. Just a thought though to perhaps ease the pain of transition. How about taking your ms word file, converting it into an open office file and then from there using the conversion from open office (ODF) to lyx/latex. I think there is also a fairly reliable converter between lyx/odt to go back and forth if you need to, but check the wiki for more details. Also, you should consider trying some of the keyboard short cuts to input equations in lyx - most of the latex ones work - since it really helps speed up the equation writing process. I find that since I'm able to use the keyboard to enter about 85% of the equation, and the other 15% I use the math toolbar for some of the more uncommon math characters (or the ones i don't know the keyboard shortcut for), that I can practically write all of my equations and in about 1/3 of the time it would take me to write it in equation editor. Plus, all my equations look so much better when printed. My only point here, is that if you need to edit your equations anyways it might be relatively easy to just rewrite any equations you need in lyx and then you'll end up with a fully working lyx document - plus its something you can put under revision control (like subversion). Good luck, Ryan On 12/23/07, Roger A. Wehage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I.T. #1: Using MathType with MS Word sucks. Big Time! > I.T. #2: Our project at work is in big trouble. If we don't get our > computer program working by the middle of February 2008, all funding will be > cut and years of effort will go down the drain. > > I.T. #3: The theory for this computer program lies in a 48 page MS Word > document (created in Microsoft Office 2000 on a PC) containing many hundreds > of MathType expressions. It must be revised by January 2, 2008, so work can > begin on revising the computer program. > > I.T. #4: The company is closed down between December 22, 2007 and January > 1, 2008, so I must revise the document at home on my own time. :o( > > I.T. #5: I don't own a PC. I've never owned a PC. And I don't have a PC > laptop that I can bring home from work. So I loaded the MS Word document > onto my flash memory stick and transferred it to my MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz > Intel Core 2 Duo, 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM, running OS X 10.4.11. > > I.T. #6: MS Word 2004, running on my MacBook Pro, reliably crashes (every > time) when I attempt to convert the MathType expressions in this file from > PC to Mac. > > I.T. #7: While contemplating what to do about this, I again play around > with LyX, practicing making equations in its editor. And what I've learned > so far is that it's almost as easy to create expressions in LyX's editor as > it is in MathType. :o) > > I.T. #8: Earlier this week, I discovered a fantastic program called > GrindEQ http://www.grindeq.com which unfortunately runs only on PCs, that > will convert my many MS Word documents (including MathType expressions) to > LaTeX, which can then be imported directly into LyX. Yes! Goodbye MS Word! > > I.T. #9: I don't have time right now to convert the 48 page MS Word > document to LaTex and clean it up, and I still have some learning and > practice before I can reliably use LyX to create and edit my documents. But > I was able to convert the 48 page MS Word document to LaTex, and the results > in LyX look very encouraging! > > I.T. #10: I found an inconvenient workaround to convert the 48 page MS > Word document created on a PC to an MS Word document that can be viewed and > edited in MS Word 2004 running on my MacBook Pro. It isn't pretty and > requires a considerable amount of prayer and alcoholic spirits. :o( But it > can be done. > > I.T. #11: Before doing anything, I make a backup copy of the file. More on > that later. > > I.T. #12: The file must then be converted in little pieces. It seems that > MS Word 2004 can't handle more than about 200 expressions at a time. > > I.T. #13: I use the mouse to select that portion of the document I want to > convert. But not too much, or I'll violate the 200 expression rule and MS > Word will crash and I'll have to start all over again. Then I instruct > MathType to convert the selected segment of the document and wait several > minutes while meaningless garbage floats across the screen. This is a good > time to have another beer and go play around with LyX. And for some, prayer > might help, but not for me since I'm an Atheist. > > I.T. #14: If I'm lucky and MS Word hasn't crashed and the funny stuff has > stopped flashing across the screen, I can (I'd better) save the file or I'll > risk losing all the changes I've made so far. Don't laugh, damn it, it > happened more than once. :o( > > I.T. #15: And it keeps getting better. (Time for another beer or maybe > something stronger.) After I've saved the file I must then quit out of MS > Word and relaunch it before converting the next segment of the
Re: DocBook Support?
Hey Jose, Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting. Thanks, Ryan On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-) We're all waiting for this ^_^. Regards, Liviu
Re: DocBook Support?
Hey Jose, Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting. Thanks, Ryan On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-) We're all waiting for this ^_^. Regards, Liviu
Re: DocBook Support?
Hey Jose, Are you able to spend a few minutes shedding some light on docbook using Lyx? Is anyone else able to do so? I'm still anxiously awaiting. Thanks, Ryan On 11/29/07, Ryan Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > FWIW, > you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only > valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still > asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for > obvious reasons > > Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and > http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ > > I eagerly and anxiously await your input. > > -Ryan > > On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 11/27/07, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly > > interested in > > > > docbook though) > > > > > > I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I > > will > > > return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month > > fortunately). :-) > > > > We're all waiting for this ^_^. > > > > Regards, > > Liviu > > > > >
Re: DocBook Support?
FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-) We're all waiting for this ^_^. Regards, Liviu
Re: DocBook Support?
FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/27/07, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month fortunately). :-) We're all waiting for this ^_^. Regards, Liviu
Re: DocBook Support?
FWIW, you can also see http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocBook but note that it is only valid for lyx version 1.2 (and no other version). The reason I'm still asking questions is that I would like to use the newer versions of lyx for obvious reasons Some other useful links are http://bgu.chez-alice.fr/doc/db4lyx/ and http://www.karakas-online.de/mySGML/ I eagerly and anxiously await your input. -Ryan On 11/28/07, Liviu Andronic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 11/27/07, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly > interested in > > > docbook though) > > > > I can and I will, but presently I am overloaded with real work. I will > > return to this issue as soon as my time permits (next month > fortunately). :-) > > We're all waiting for this ^_^. > > Regards, > Liviu >
Re: Live Latex Editing
On Nov 25, 2007 8:39 AM, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atakan Kubilay wrote: This is just a call for an added feature I have sorely felt the absence of: I want to be able to edit Latex code-not just preview it-while typing. Someone else suggested/requested this recently. I'm not sure if it was entered into bugzilla as an enhancement request. I know it can be a big mess if a novice Latexer edits the code, but there can just be a big warning message like that appears on the top of the document. It's more complicated than that. If you modify the LaTeX source (as opposed to entering LaTeX in an ERT box), LyX would have to reverse-engineer your changes in order to keep the display correct. (With ERT, LyX makes no attempt to format your entry for the display.) So you now require LyX to understand a virtually unlimited amount of LaTeX syntax (I say unlimited because, of course, LaTeX is designed to be extended by macro packages). /Paul Correct me if I'm wrong, but the understanding you are referring to is already available - it is the relyx command that is used when opening/importing a latex file. So, what this is a request for is a relyx in place option - which is listed on the wiki with several other feature requests. With that in mind, I don't think this request is quite as complicated as you make out - but i'm not a lyx developer.
Re: Live Latex Editing
On Nov 25, 2007 11:18 AM, Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:26:26AM +1100, Ryan Cross wrote: On Nov 25, 2007 8:39 AM, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atakan Kubilay wrote: This is just a call for an added feature I have sorely felt the absence of: I want to be able to edit Latex code-not just preview it-while typing. Someone else suggested/requested this recently. I'm not sure if it was entered into bugzilla as an enhancement request. I know it can be a big mess if a novice Latexer edits the code, but there can just be a big warning message like that appears on the top of the document. It's more complicated than that. If you modify the LaTeX source (as opposed to entering LaTeX in an ERT box), LyX would have to reverse-engineer your changes in order to keep the display correct. (With ERT, LyX makes no attempt to format your entry for the display.) So you now require LyX to understand a virtually unlimited amount of LaTeX syntax (I say unlimited because, of course, LaTeX is designed to be extended by macro packages). /Paul Correct me if I'm wrong, but the understanding you are referring to is already available - it is the relyx command that is used when opening/importing a latex file. So, what this is a request for is a relyx in place option - which is listed on the wiki with several other feature requests. With that in mind, I don't think this request is quite as complicated as you make out - but i'm not a lyx developer. ReLyX is replaced by tex2lyx nowadways. But even that is fragile and incomplete. As an additional burden, it would need to handle incomplete TeX constructs, too. Andre' I did see that ReLyx was replaced by tex2lyx (which is hopefully better). I think this feature could be solved by actually doing a preview/edit of the actual Lyx file format and not the LaTeX. Most of the edits I want to do could probably be done by editing the Lyx file format. This would eliminate the issue of converting in place, the only thing that would be useful/necessary would be to have some sort of tag closer, which is relatively easy.
Re: Live Latex Editing
On Nov 25, 2007 8:39 AM, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atakan Kubilay wrote: This is just a call for an added feature I have sorely felt the absence of: I want to be able to edit Latex code-not just preview it-while typing. Someone else suggested/requested this recently. I'm not sure if it was entered into bugzilla as an enhancement request. I know it can be a big mess if a novice Latexer edits the code, but there can just be a big warning message like that appears on the top of the document. It's more complicated than that. If you modify the LaTeX source (as opposed to entering LaTeX in an ERT box), LyX would have to reverse-engineer your changes in order to keep the display correct. (With ERT, LyX makes no attempt to format your entry for the display.) So you now require LyX to understand a virtually unlimited amount of LaTeX syntax (I say unlimited because, of course, LaTeX is designed to be extended by macro packages). /Paul Correct me if I'm wrong, but the understanding you are referring to is already available - it is the relyx command that is used when opening/importing a latex file. So, what this is a request for is a relyx in place option - which is listed on the wiki with several other feature requests. With that in mind, I don't think this request is quite as complicated as you make out - but i'm not a lyx developer.
Re: Live Latex Editing
On Nov 25, 2007 11:18 AM, Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:26:26AM +1100, Ryan Cross wrote: On Nov 25, 2007 8:39 AM, Paul A. Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Atakan Kubilay wrote: This is just a call for an added feature I have sorely felt the absence of: I want to be able to edit Latex code-not just preview it-while typing. Someone else suggested/requested this recently. I'm not sure if it was entered into bugzilla as an enhancement request. I know it can be a big mess if a novice Latexer edits the code, but there can just be a big warning message like that appears on the top of the document. It's more complicated than that. If you modify the LaTeX source (as opposed to entering LaTeX in an ERT box), LyX would have to reverse-engineer your changes in order to keep the display correct. (With ERT, LyX makes no attempt to format your entry for the display.) So you now require LyX to understand a virtually unlimited amount of LaTeX syntax (I say unlimited because, of course, LaTeX is designed to be extended by macro packages). /Paul Correct me if I'm wrong, but the understanding you are referring to is already available - it is the relyx command that is used when opening/importing a latex file. So, what this is a request for is a relyx in place option - which is listed on the wiki with several other feature requests. With that in mind, I don't think this request is quite as complicated as you make out - but i'm not a lyx developer. ReLyX is replaced by tex2lyx nowadways. But even that is fragile and incomplete. As an additional burden, it would need to handle incomplete TeX constructs, too. Andre' I did see that ReLyx was replaced by tex2lyx (which is hopefully better). I think this feature could be solved by actually doing a preview/edit of the actual Lyx file format and not the LaTeX. Most of the edits I want to do could probably be done by editing the Lyx file format. This would eliminate the issue of converting in place, the only thing that would be useful/necessary would be to have some sort of tag closer, which is relatively easy.
Re: Live Latex Editing
On Nov 25, 2007 8:39 AM, Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Atakan Kubilay wrote: > > This is just > > a call for an added feature I have sorely felt the absence of: I want > > to be able to edit Latex code-not just preview it-while typing. > > Someone else suggested/requested this recently. I'm not sure if it was > entered into bugzilla as an enhancement request. > > > I > > know it can be a big mess if a novice Latexer edits the code, but > > there can just be a big warning message like that appears on the top > > of the document. > > It's more complicated than that. If you modify the LaTeX source (as > opposed to entering LaTeX in an ERT box), LyX would have to > "reverse-engineer" your changes in order to keep the display correct. > (With ERT, LyX makes no attempt to format your entry for the display.) > So you now require LyX to "understand" a virtually unlimited amount of > LaTeX syntax (I say "unlimited" because, of course, LaTeX is designed to > be extended by macro packages). > > /Paul > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "understanding" you are referring to is already available - it is the relyx command that is used when opening/importing a latex file. So, what this is a request for is a relyx in place option - which is listed on the wiki with several other feature requests. With that in mind, I don't think this request is quite as complicated as you make out - but i'm not a lyx developer.
Re: Live Latex Editing
On Nov 25, 2007 11:18 AM, Andre Poenitz < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 10:26:26AM +1100, Ryan Cross wrote: > > On Nov 25, 2007 8:39 AM, Paul A. Rubin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Atakan Kubilay wrote: > > > > This is just > > > > a call for an added feature I have sorely felt the absence of: I > want > > > > to be able to edit Latex code-not just preview it-while typing. > > > > > > Someone else suggested/requested this recently. I'm not sure if it > was > > > entered into bugzilla as an enhancement request. > > > > > > > I > > > > know it can be a big mess if a novice Latexer edits the code, but > > > > there can just be a big warning message like that appears on the top > > > > of the document. > > > > > > It's more complicated than that. If you modify the LaTeX source (as > > > opposed to entering LaTeX in an ERT box), LyX would have to > > > "reverse-engineer" your changes in order to keep the display correct. > > > (With ERT, LyX makes no attempt to format your entry for the display.) > > > So you now require LyX to "understand" a virtually unlimited amount of > > > LaTeX syntax (I say "unlimited" because, of course, LaTeX is designed > to > > > be extended by macro packages). > > > > > > /Paul > > > > > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "understanding" you are referring to is > > already available - it is the relyx command that is used when > > opening/importing a latex file. So, what this is a request for is a > relyx in > > place option - which is listed on the wiki with several other feature > > requests. With that in mind, I don't think this request is quite as > > complicated as you make out - but i'm not a lyx developer. > > ReLyX is replaced by tex2lyx nowadways. But even that is fragile and > incomplete. As an additional burden, it would need to handle incomplete > TeX constructs, too. > > Andre' > I did see that ReLyx was replaced by tex2lyx (which is hopefully better). I think this feature could be solved by actually doing a preview/edit of the actual Lyx file format and not the LaTeX. Most of the edits I want to do could probably be done by editing the Lyx file format. This would eliminate the issue of converting in place, the only thing that would be useful/necessary would be to have some sort of tag closer, which is relatively easy.
DocBook Support?
Hi, I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. -Ryan
Re: edit lyx file in text editor
You can also use the lyx binary without it being installed - you just won't be able have preview of equations and such. Look up some of the details of using portable lyx. On Nov 22, 2007 10:38 PM, e-letter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, I looked at my (basic) lyx file in a text editor and it seems a simple structure of (custom?) latex type commands (e.g. \layout). Reading the extended manual, I guess that you suggest I should export my lyx file into latex, edit the latex file and then import into lyx when I am able to use lyx? Thanks in advance. Yours, René. linux mandrake 92 gnome 24 lyx 132 latex 2e (01-06-01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re; edit lyx file in text editor
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll#toc11 Its not an officially portable release - its just the lyx binary running on a thumbdrive (or over a network drive probably too). A few comments suggest you could make it fully portable if you included all the dependencies (like a portable tex install). But for basic tasks, you should be fine. -Ryan On Nov 22, 2007 10:52 PM, e-letter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan, Please provide a hyperlink to the lyx portable; I can't see any reference either via web search or within lyx wiki Thanks in advance. Yours, René. linux mandrake 92 gnome 24 lyx 132 latex 2e (01-06-01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DocBook Support?
I don't know much about linuxdoc - but I am pretty sure I am correctly referring to docbook. Its an xml format for generating multiple types of documentation, pdf/html/chm (windows help files)/etc You can see lyx linked directly from the docbook wiki http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) -Ryan On Nov 23, 2007 8:56 AM, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:40:03 Ryan Cross wrote: Hi, I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. I think that you are referring to linuxdoc and not to docbook. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. -Ryan -- José Abílio
DocBook Support?
Hi, I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. -Ryan
Re: edit lyx file in text editor
You can also use the lyx binary without it being installed - you just won't be able have preview of equations and such. Look up some of the details of using portable lyx. On Nov 22, 2007 10:38 PM, e-letter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles, I looked at my (basic) lyx file in a text editor and it seems a simple structure of (custom?) latex type commands (e.g. \layout). Reading the extended manual, I guess that you suggest I should export my lyx file into latex, edit the latex file and then import into lyx when I am able to use lyx? Thanks in advance. Yours, René. linux mandrake 92 gnome 24 lyx 132 latex 2e (01-06-01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re; edit lyx file in text editor
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll#toc11 Its not an officially portable release - its just the lyx binary running on a thumbdrive (or over a network drive probably too). A few comments suggest you could make it fully portable if you included all the dependencies (like a portable tex install). But for basic tasks, you should be fine. -Ryan On Nov 22, 2007 10:52 PM, e-letter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ryan, Please provide a hyperlink to the lyx portable; I can't see any reference either via web search or within lyx wiki Thanks in advance. Yours, René. linux mandrake 92 gnome 24 lyx 132 latex 2e (01-06-01) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DocBook Support?
I don't know much about linuxdoc - but I am pretty sure I am correctly referring to docbook. Its an xml format for generating multiple types of documentation, pdf/html/chm (windows help files)/etc You can see lyx linked directly from the docbook wiki http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) -Ryan On Nov 23, 2007 8:56 AM, José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:40:03 Ryan Cross wrote: Hi, I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. I think that you are referring to linuxdoc and not to docbook. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. -Ryan -- José Abílio
DocBook Support?
Hi, I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. Does anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. -Ryan
Re: edit lyx file in text editor
You can also use the lyx binary without it being installed - you just won't be able have preview of equations and such. Look up some of the details of using "portable" lyx. On Nov 22, 2007 10:38 PM, e-letter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Charles, > > I looked at my (basic) lyx file in a text editor and it seems a simple > structure of (custom?) latex type commands (e.g. \layout). > > Reading the extended manual, I guess that you suggest I should export > my lyx file into latex, edit the latex file and then import into lyx > when I am able to use lyx? > > Thanks in advance. > > Yours, > > René. > > linux mandrake 92 > gnome 24 > lyx 132 > latex 2e (01-06-01) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: re; edit lyx file in text editor
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll#toc11 Its not an officially portable release - its just the lyx binary running on a thumbdrive (or over a network drive probably too). A few comments suggest you could make it fully portable if you included all the dependencies (like a portable tex install). But for basic tasks, you should be fine. -Ryan On Nov 22, 2007 10:52 PM, e-letter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan, > > Please provide a hyperlink to the lyx portable; I can't see any > reference either via web search or within lyx wiki > > Thanks in advance. > > Yours, > > René. > > linux mandrake 92 > gnome 24 > lyx 132 > latex 2e (01-06-01) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: DocBook Support?
I don't know much about linuxdoc - but I am pretty sure I am correctly referring to docbook. Its an xml format for generating multiple types of documentation, pdf/html/chm (windows help files)/etc You can see lyx linked directly from the docbook wiki http://wiki.docbook.org/topic/DocBookAuthoringTools Can you shed light on either docbook or linuxdoc? (I'm mostly interested in docbook though) -Ryan On Nov 23, 2007 8:56 AM, José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 November 2007 10:40:03 Ryan Cross wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have seen some pointers to using Lyx for creating/editing DocBook > > documents. However, the wiki suggests this isn't supported any more. > > I think that you are referring to linuxdoc and not to docbook. > > > Does > > anyone know how to do this? I'd like to use it with the current version. > > > > -Ryan > > > > -- > José Abílio >
