Re: Grammar Checking -- noob help!
On 12/6/22 12:57, Dan wrote: I'm writing what is essentially going to be a small text in Physics with a lot of high end Mathematics, so a good Science grammar checker would be a nice idea. I found the LyX wiki and the lyx-cg system. This was created by a user and sometime contributor. I'm not sure if he's still around; perhaps he'll chime in. But yes, it looks like that is somewhat out of date. I don't know how well it would work with the current file format. Your best option may be to export the file to some more common format, and use a grammar checker on that. E.g., you can export to LaTeX and then use pandoc to convert to Word or whatever. Or you can export to XHMTL, and then open that in Libre Office. Riki -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Grammar Checking -- noob help!
I'm writing what is essentially going to be a small text in Physics with a lot of high end Mathematics, so a good Science grammar checker would be a nice idea. I found the LyX wiki and the lyx-cg system. Are there other options? I'm also looking at Grammarly but I'm not sure it can handle the kind of language help I might need. Let's say I go with the lyx-cg idea. (Which is why I'm posting this here. :) ) I have a few questions. 1) Is lyx-cg up to date? I'm noticing that the Github files are as much as 8 years old. 2) If I have to buy something I'd prefer to buy it outright. langaugetool charges per month. Is there any way around this? 3) But the main problem is the actual lyx-cg file. I have it on Github, but what do I do with it? I was expecting to download a file and extract it. But it's giving me a list of files with their codes, not something I can download? Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob. I could use a hand. Thanks! -Dan -- lyx-users mailing list lyx-users@lists.lyx.org http://lists.lyx.org/mailman/listinfo/lyx-users
Re: Grammar checking
Hi Steve, I have never found a grammar checker that it useful for one's native language, in my case English. On the other hand, my French is rather primitive and a good grammar makes me intelligible if not exactly eloquent. I did try the MS one years ago and it was maddening. It seemed to want one to write at a grade 8 level and complained incessantly when I used a passive sentence. On 22 August 2017 at 17:38, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:35:38 +0200 > "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker. > > I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing > > (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor. > > Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker? > > To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to > > use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT. > > However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a > > scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section, > > subsection, etc..). > > > > Some suggestions? > > Last century I tried MSWord's grammar checker. I found it a great idea > impossible to implement. It would often let fly sentences with a wrong > word, and worse yet, it would flag lots of sentences that any author > would feel good about writing. > > I think that, once you get past absolutely horrible grammar, grammar > checking becomes nothing but frustration. > > I mentioned MSWord, which is obviously bad software, but I really think > it's impossible to implement a useful grammar checker with the current > state of AI. Wait another 10 years and perhaps grammar checkers will > learn how we authors talk, and base checking on that. > > SteveT > -- John Kane Kingston ON Canada
Re: Grammar checking
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 05:38:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:35:38 +0200 > "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker. > > I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing > > (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor. > > Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker? > > To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to > > use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT. > > However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a > > scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section, > > subsection, etc..). > > > > Some suggestions? > > Last century I tried MSWord's grammar checker. I found it a great idea > impossible to implement. It would often let fly sentences with a wrong > word, and worse yet, it would flag lots of sentences that any author > would feel good about writing. > > I think that, once you get past absolutely horrible grammar, grammar > checking becomes nothing but frustration. > > I mentioned MSWord, which is obviously bad software, but I really think > it's impossible to implement a useful grammar checker with the current > state of AI. Wait another 10 years and perhaps grammar checkers will > learn how we authors talk, and base checking on that. Patrick, take a look at the old ticket (but with recent discussion): https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/4878 Please feel free to join the discussion. As for if there is a way for a more effective grammar checker, you might like comment:9 on that ticket. Note, however, that it is only for English. Steve, I agree with you for the most part. Sometimes, though, the grammar checker catches simple mistakes that my eyes do not. I can read a sentence 10 times and somehow not catch a singular/plural mismatch. I have found it helpful [1] to read my paper backwards [2] in order to catch certain types of errors. Scott [1] Thanks to my high school teacher Mrs. Coulter for this suggestion! [2] I originally had "backwords". Luckily I read this sentence backwards :) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Grammar checking
On Tue, 22 Aug 2017 15:35:38 +0200 "Patrick Dupre" <pdu...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hello, > > lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker. > I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing > (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor. > Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker? > To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to > use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT. > However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a > scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section, > subsection, etc..). > > Some suggestions? Last century I tried MSWord's grammar checker. I found it a great idea impossible to implement. It would often let fly sentences with a wrong word, and worse yet, it would flag lots of sentences that any author would feel good about writing. I think that, once you get past absolutely horrible grammar, grammar checking becomes nothing but frustration. I mentioned MSWord, which is obviously bad software, but I really think it's impossible to implement a useful grammar checker with the current state of AI. Wait another 10 years and perhaps grammar checkers will learn how we authors talk, and base checking on that. SteveT
Grammar checking
Hello, lyx offers a language checker, but not a grammar checker. I installed the check-Tex option, but the results are not convincing (at least in English). The suggestion are really poor. Is there any way to install a more efficient grammar checker? To circumvent the problem, I used to generate a rtf file and then to use freeoffice which let me use a grammar checker like LT. However, the generation of the rtf file is really problematic for a scientific document (for example, I have to remove the section, subsection, etc..). Some suggestions? Thank. === Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdu...@gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France ===
