Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[racoon]

On 19.03.2018 18:14, Emile Lunardon wrote:
I don't remember seeing the possibility to install LyX without LaTeX 
(I'll have to change my glasses !), but I want to trust you on this 
point ! In this case, I would be more than happy to agree with your 
analysis.


I had to check myself to be sure. Attached is exhibit A (unfortunately 
in German).


Daniel

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Emile Lunardon]

I don't remember seeing the possibility to install LyX without LaTeX (I'll
have to change my glasses !), but I want to trust you on this point ! In
this case, I would be more than happy to agree with your analysis.

2018-03-19 17:16 GMT+01:00 racoon :

> On 19.03.2018 00:41, emile lunardon wrote:
>
>> Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is
>> used to simply generate LyX document  (or LaTeX  document) without
>> compiling it, we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to install
>> LyX in all cases and if need be, to give the choice to the user either to
>> upgrade himself properly Miktex (followed by a reconfiguration of LyX) or
>> to let the LyX installer perform this Miktex  upgrade.
>>
>
> I am not sure I understand this correctly.
>
> It is still possible to install LyX without LaTeX. For example by checking
> "do not use LaTeX" during installation. But then it should be made sure
> that the dialog about upgrading MiKTeX should come only after this option
> and the upgrade should be done only if MiKTeX is really used with LyX.
>
> Daniel
>
>

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[racoon]

On 19.03.2018 00:41, emile lunardon wrote:
Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is 
used to simply generate LyX document  (or LaTeX  document) without 
compiling it, we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to 
install LyX in all cases and if need be, to give the choice to the user 
either to upgrade himself properly Miktex (followed by a reconfiguration 
of LyX) or to let the LyX installer perform this Miktex  upgrade.


I am not sure I understand this correctly.

It is still possible to install LyX without LaTeX. For example by 
checking "do not use LaTeX" during installation. But then it should be 
made sure that the dialog about upgrading MiKTeX should come only after 
this option and the upgrade should be done only if MiKTeX is really used 
with LyX.


Daniel

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Benedict Holland]

I would be in disagreement with Charles. Lyx has a massive range of users
from latex experts to novices. Power users will be incredibly upset if Lyx
does something that changes a working configuration without notifying them
first. It is even more important to get it right before release since it
affects the install. From my experience, I would probably not upgrade Lyx
if it changed MikTex if say, I had a publication that had to get out or a
dissertation that was almost finished. I remember frantically trying to
debug a beamer presentation because Lyx changed something with Beamer... a
day or two before I had to get it printed.

I, for one, greatly appreciate holding up something as massively disruptive
as a latex engine upgrade until it can be properly communicated to the
greater audience. Still, expect to see a bunch of questions regarding this.

Thanks,
~Ben

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:27:25PM +, Charles Roddie wrote:
> > What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release
> has been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to
> include a dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having
> a dialog is fine, and not having a dialog is fine.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> > Not having a version available for Windows however is a major problem
> for users.
>
> If there's one thing everyone here agrees on, it is this.
>
> > Also may I suggest that you upgrade your email list to a forum? It's
> unclear how to interact with this list without reading
> https://www.lyx.org/MailingLists
> in detail in its entirety and even then it's not self-contained.
> >
> > Apologies for the complaints: I appreciate the work of the lyx
> developers and the new features in 2.3 sound great.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 10:27:25PM +, Charles Roddie wrote:
> What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release has 
> been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to include a 
> dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having a dialog is 
> fine, and not having a dialog is fine.

Thanks for the feedback.

> Not having a version available for Windows however is a major problem for 
> users.

If there's one thing everyone here agrees on, it is this.

> Also may I suggest that you upgrade your email list to a forum? It's unclear 
> how to interact with this list without reading  
> https://www.lyx.org/MailingLists in 
> detail in its entirety and even then it's not self-contained.
> 
> Apologies for the complaints: I appreciate the work of the lyx developers and 
> the new features in 2.3 sound great.

Thanks,

Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[emile lunardon]

Miktex 2.9 or later is mandatory to compile LyX document but if LyX is used
to simply generate LyX document  (or LaTeX  document) without compiling it,
we should not forbid this use. So I would suggest to install LyX in all
cases and if need be, to give the choice to the user either to upgrade
himself properly Miktex (followed by a reconfiguration of LyX) or to let
the LyX installer perform this Miktex  upgrade.

2018-03-13 23:13 GMT+01:00 Scott Kostyshak :

> Dear all,
>
> I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release
> of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
> beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:
>
>
> The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
> version. If you do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX,
> you likely want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with
> other applications and do not want to update it now, or want to
> perform the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation
> now.
>
>  Cancel   Continue
>
>
> Do you think this dialog would be confusing for the average user?
>
> Thanks for your feedback,
>
> Scott
>

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Charles Roddie]

What matters most of all is a release. I understand that Windows release has 
been held up by extensive discussions over this issue of whether to include a 
dialog. This is a minor issue as few people read dialogs. Having a dialog is 
fine, and not having a dialog is fine. Not having a version available for 
Windows however is a major problem for users.

Also may I suggest that you upgrade your email list to a forum? It's unclear 
how to interact with this list without reading  
https://www.lyx.org/MailingLists in 
detail in its entirety and even then it's not self-contained.

Apologies for the complaints: I appreciate the work of the lyx developers and 
the new features in 2.3 sound great.

Charles

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 02:58:34PM +, Benedict Holland wrote:
> I would say that the only people who would update MiKTeX outside of a Lyx
> install are power users.
> 
> I would simply state something like:
> 
> Lyx requires MikTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X. Chose "Continue" to
> automatically update MiKTeX to version X.X or cancel the LyX installation
> and update MiKTeX manually.
> 
> You don't need to mention why they would update it manually or using it
> with other applications or anything like that. I would say that if the Lyx
> user understands the potential chaos for updating MiKTeX, you can just tell
> them to manually do it.

Thanks for your suggestions, Ben!

> I also assume that you will only show this dialog if MikTex is installed on
> their system. If it isn't installed, you probably don't need to tell the
> user that you are installing it.

I agree. I think another case where we don't need to show it is if the
user already has a TeX Live installation.

Thanks for taking the time to help with the message,

Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:37:10PM +, חיים רוזנר wrote:
> Scott Kostyshak :
> 
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> >
> > A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one
> updates MikTeX.
> >
> > I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX
> updating.
> 
> If the user clicks on "Continue", then the LyX Installer would proceed
> to do the update.
> 
> Scott
> 
> How about this:
> This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
> earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
> of MikTeX on your system.

This is good information. Because it could be that the LyX installer just
doesn't recognize e.g. that the newest version of MiKTeX is installed,
in which case the user might want to not proceed.

> And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or
> 'Install MikTeX & LyX".
> Perhaps it should be clear somehow that the installer updates MikTeX to the
> most recent version, and tell the user what is the path of the old MikTeX
> detected by installer.
> 
> PS Is there an option to have two different MikTeX versions installed on
> the same system? If there is such an option, then we need an option to tell
> that's path to this installer.

I don't believe there is that option. It might actually solve our
problem if we just provided a separate MiKTeX installation that only LyX
uses. I hadn't thought about that. On first thought that might be
feasible if we weren't worried about hard drive space. Also, I think it
could lead to some nasty complications (e.g. "it works in LyX but when I
export and compile it no longer works").

Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52:46PM +, חיים רוזנר wrote:
> haim.ros...@gmail.com:
> 
> How about this:
> This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
> earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
> of MikTeX on your system.
> And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or
> 'Install MikTeX & LyX".
> Perhaps it should be clear somehow that the installer updates MikTeX to the
> most recent version, and tell the user what is the path of the old MikTeX
> detected by installer.
> 
> PS Is there an option to have two different MikTeX versions installed on
> the same system? If there is such an option, then we need an option to tell
> that's path to this installer.

I think the above is the same as your previous email.

> I mean, it should be clear that you cannot continue with old miktex, and it
> should offer you the update. For the avarage user that is enough.
> On the other hand, users that do not want to update their old miktex are
> considered intelligent enough to get the point that this installation would
> ruin their miktex habits. And if they want to get another supported miktex
> version, e.g. the first supported version, they can figure out they can do
> it on their own.

That's exactly the intention of the dialog (i.e. it contains adequate
information for experienced users but not confusing information for
inexperienced users). Good.

Thank you for your feedback, Haim!

Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Benedict Holland]

I would say that the only people who would update MiKTeX outside of a Lyx
install are power users.

I would simply state something like:

Lyx requires MikTeX 2.9 or later. Your version is X.X. Chose "Continue" to
automatically update MiKTeX to version X.X or cancel the LyX installation
and update MiKTeX manually.

You don't need to mention why they would update it manually or using it
with other applications or anything like that. I would say that if the Lyx
user understands the potential chaos for updating MiKTeX, you can just tell
them to manually do it.

I also assume that you will only show this dialog if MikTex is installed on
their system. If it isn't installed, you probably don't need to tell the
user that you are installing it.

Thanks,
~Ben


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 7:52 PM, חיים רוזנר  wrote:

> haim.ros...@gmail.com:
>
> How about this:
> This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
> earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
> of MikTeX on your system.
> And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or
> 'Install MikTeX & LyX".
> Perhaps it should be clear somehow that the installer updates MikTeX to
> the most recent version, and tell the user what is the path of the old
> MikTeX detected by installer.
>
> PS Is there an option to have two different MikTeX versions installed on
> the same system? If there is such an option, then we need an option to tell
> that's path to this installer.
>
> Haim
>
> I mean, it should be clear that you cannot continue with old miktex, and
> it should offer you the update. For the avarage user that is enough.
> On the other hand, users that do not want to update their old miktex are
> considered intelligent enough to get the point that this installation would
> ruin their miktex habits. And if they want to get another supported miktex
> version, e.g. the first supported version, they can figure out they can do
> it on their own.
> Haim
>

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[חיים רוזנר]

haim.ros...@gmail.com:

How about this:
This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
of MikTeX on your system.
And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or
'Install MikTeX & LyX".
Perhaps it should be clear somehow that the installer updates MikTeX to the
most recent version, and tell the user what is the path of the old MikTeX
detected by installer.

PS Is there an option to have two different MikTeX versions installed on
the same system? If there is such an option, then we need an option to tell
that's path to this installer.

Haim

I mean, it should be clear that you cannot continue with old miktex, and it
should offer you the update. For the avarage user that is enough.
On the other hand, users that do not want to update their old miktex are
considered intelligent enough to get the point that this installation would
ruin their miktex habits. And if they want to get another supported miktex
version, e.g. the first supported version, they can figure out they can do
it on their own.
Haim

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[חיים רוזנר]

Scott Kostyshak :

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
>
> A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one
updates MikTeX.
>
> I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX
updating.

If the user clicks on "Continue", then the LyX Installer would proceed
to do the update.

Scott

How about this:
This version of LyX needs MikTeX v. ? at least. The installer found only
earlier version of MikTeX / The installer could not find any installation
of MikTeX on your system.
And the buttons shall read 'Cancel' and 'Update MikTeX and install LyX' or
'Install MikTeX & LyX".
Perhaps it should be clear somehow that the installer updates MikTeX to the
most recent version, and tell the user what is the path of the old MikTeX
detected by installer.

PS Is there an option to have two different MikTeX versions installed on
the same system? If there is such an option, then we need an option to tell
that's path to this installer.

Haim

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:32:53AM +, Baris Erkus wrote:
> My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating 
> MikTeX or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this. 
> Instead LyX can check the version of MikTeX and if it does not fit to certain 
> requirements, it should give a warning smtg like:
> 
> This version of LyX is compatible with MikTeX v?,? You have MikTeX v?.?. 
> There may be an issue with LyX installation. It is recommended that you 
> update your MikTeX to version v?.? before installing LyX.

Thanks for the response, Baris. I can see why you would prefer that
behavior.

Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:44:21AM +, Bernt Lie wrote:
> 
> A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one 
> updates MikTeX.
> 
> I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX 
> updating.

If the user clicks on "Continue", then the LyX Installer would proceed
to do the update.

Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 01:14:00AM +, steve_...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Hi Scott,
> 
> I think it's a bit wordy
> 
> How about:
> 
>   The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest
> 2.9
>    version. 
> 
>   If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want
> to update
>   now, or want to perform the update yourself, cancel the LyX
> installation.
> 
>   Cancel Continue
> 
> I might even be tempted to leave the "or want to perform the update
> yourself" out, if they are smart enough to update miktex themselves,
> then smart enough to to cancel if want to update themselves.

Thanks, Steve. Combining those sentences above and possibly removing the
"or want to perform the update yourself" are good suggestions.

Scott


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RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Bernt Lie]

A naïve user who is not well versed in MikTeX may start to wonder how one 
updates MikTeX.

I would find it useful that the dialog makes it possible to start MikTeX 
updating.

-B
From: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org> On Behalf Of Baris Erkus
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:33
To: LyX Users <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Subject: RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating MikTeX 
or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this. Instead LyX 
can check the version of MikTeX and if it does not fit to certain requirements, 
it should give a warning smtg like:

This version of LyX is compatible with MikTeX v?,? You have MikTeX v?.?. There 
may be an issue with LyX installation. It is recommended that you update your 
MikTeX to version v?.? before installing LyX.

BE

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:14 AM
To: Scott Kostyshak<mailto:skost...@lyx.org>; LyX 
Users<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Subject: Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?


Hi Scott,

I think it's a bit wordy

How about:


  The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
  version.

  If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want to update
  now, or want to perform the update yourself, cancel the LyX installation.

  Cancel Continue

I might even be tempted to leave the "or want to perform the update yourself" 
out, if they are smart enough to update miktex themselves, then smart enough to 
to cancel if want to update themselves.

Steve

- Original Message -
From:
"Scott Kostyshak" <skost...@lyx.org<mailto:skost...@lyx.org>>

To:
"LyX Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>>
Cc:

Sent:
Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:13:35 -0400
Subject:
Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?


Dear all,

I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release
of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:


The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
version. If you do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX,
you likely want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with
other applications and do not want to update it now, or want to
perform the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation
now.

Cancel Continue


Do you think this dialog would be confusing for the average user?

Thanks for your feedback,

Scott

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RE: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Baris Erkus]

My recommendation is to completely remove the LyX capability of updating MikTeX 
or switching to MikTeX updater. I always had an issue with this. Instead LyX 
can check the version of MikTeX and if it does not fit to certain requirements, 
it should give a warning smtg like:

This version of LyX is compatible with MikTeX v?,? You have MikTeX v?.?. There 
may be an issue with LyX installation. It is recommended that you update your 
MikTeX to version v?.? before installing LyX.

BE

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From: steve_...@optusnet.com.au<mailto:steve_...@optusnet.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 4:14 AM
To: Scott Kostyshak<mailto:skost...@lyx.org>; LyX 
Users<mailto:lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Subject: Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?


Hi Scott,

I think it's a bit wordy

How about:


  The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
  version.

  If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want to update
  now, or want to perform the update yourself, cancel the LyX installation.

  Cancel Continue

I might even be tempted to leave the "or want to perform the update yourself" 
out, if they are smart enough to update miktex themselves, then smart enough to 
to cancel if want to update themselves.

Steve

- Original Message -
From:
"Scott Kostyshak" <skost...@lyx.org>

To:
"LyX Users" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Cc:

Sent:
Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:13:35 -0400
Subject:
Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?


Dear all,

I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release
of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:


The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
version. If you do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX,
you likely want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with
other applications and do not want to update it now, or want to
perform the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation
now.

Cancel Continue


Do you think this dialog would be confusing for the average user?

Thanks for your feedback,

Scott

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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[steve_geo]

Hi Scott,

I think it's a bit wordy

How about:

  The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest
2.9
   version. 

  If you use MiKTeX with other applications and do not want
to update
  now, or want to perform the update yourself, cancel the LyX
installation.

  Cancel Continue

I might even be tempted to leave the "or want to perform the update
yourself" out, if they are smart enough to update miktex themselves,
then smart enough to to cancel if want to update themselves.

Steve

- Original Message -
From: "Scott Kostyshak" 
To:"LyX Users" 
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:13:35 -0400
Subject:Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

 Dear all,

 I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the
release
 of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
 beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:

 The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
 version. If you do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX,
 you likely want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with
 other applications and do not want to update it now, or want to
 perform the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation
 now.

 Cancel Continue

 Do you think this dialog would be confusing for the average user?

 Thanks for your feedback,

 Scott

-
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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 03/13/2018 07:03 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:21:17PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote:


I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves unanswered
the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether it will work
with an existing installation of an earlier version. One might infer from
the limited choices that LyX requires 2.9, but if so I would suggest saying
that explicitly. If not, the user should be told where to look for
instructions on how to install LyX without messing with MiKTeX.

Good point, Paul. Does the following improve the clarity?


   LyX 2.3.0 is only compatible with the newest version of MiKTeX.
   The LyX installer will now update your MiKTeX installation. If you
   do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX, you likely
   want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with other
   applications and do not want to update it now, or want to perform
   the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation now.
  
Cancel   Continue



Scott

I think that's pretty clear.

Paul

Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:21:17PM +, Paul A. Rubin wrote:

> I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves unanswered
> the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether it will work
> with an existing installation of an earlier version. One might infer from
> the limited choices that LyX requires 2.9, but if so I would suggest saying
> that explicitly. If not, the user should be told where to look for
> instructions on how to install LyX without messing with MiKTeX.

Good point, Paul. Does the following improve the clarity?


  LyX 2.3.0 is only compatible with the newest version of MiKTeX.
  The LyX installer will now update your MiKTeX installation. If you
  do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX, you likely
  want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with other
  applications and do not want to update it now, or want to perform
  the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation now.
 
   Cancel   Continue


Scott


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Re: Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 03/13/2018 06:13 PM, Scott Kostyshak wrote:

Dear all,

I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release
of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:


 The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
 version. If you do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX,
 you likely want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with
 other applications and do not want to update it now, or want to
 perform the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation
 now.

  Cancel   Continue


Do you think this dialog would be confusing for the average user?

Thanks for your feedback,

Scott
I think the dialog is clear enough in what it says, but it leaves 
unanswered the question of whether LyX requires MiKTeX 2.9, or whether 
it will work with an existing installation of an earlier version. One 
might infer from the limited choices that LyX requires 2.9, but if so I 
would suggest saying that explicitly. If not, the user should be told 
where to look for instructions on how to install LyX without messing 
with MiKTeX.


Paul

Important poll: would this dialog be confusing?

[Scott Kostyshak]

Dear all,

I would appreciate your help on an issue that is holding up the release
of LyX 2.3.0. We are considering to add the following dialog at the
beginning of the LyX 2.3.0 Windows installer:


The LyX installer is going to update MiKTeX to the newest 2.9
version. If you do not use MiKTeX with applications other than LyX,
you likely want to choose "Continue". If you do use MiKTeX with
other applications and do not want to update it now, or want to
perform the update yourself, you can cancel the LyX installation
now.

 Cancel   Continue


Do you think this dialog would be confusing for the average user?

Thanks for your feedback,

Scott


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