Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-22 Thread Paul Johnson
I have had the too long URL problem in the past and was monitoring 
this thread. I changed Herbert's test file just slightly (attached), and 
I don't see any difference in the way the 2 urls are treated.  Both are 
broken correctly with pdflatex, but in the other pdf and xdvi output, 
they run off into the right margin and off the edge of the page.

I have the same problem with equations, and in that case I think I have 
no alternative but to break into lines manually.  But with URLs, where 
line placement is more unpredictable, I'm concerned.

Herbert Voss wrote:
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
  I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
  will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
  else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert

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1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
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Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700
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Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-22 Thread Paul Johnson
I have had the too long URL problem in the past and was monitoring 
this thread. I changed Herbert's test file just slightly (attached), and 
I don't see any difference in the way the 2 urls are treated.  Both are 
broken correctly with pdflatex, but in the other pdf and xdvi output, 
they run off into the right margin and off the edge of the page.

I have the same problem with equations, and in that case I think I have 
no alternative but to break into lines manually.  But with URLs, where 
line placement is more unpredictable, I'm concerned.

Herbert Voss wrote:
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
  I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
  will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
  else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert

\the_end

--
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn
1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700
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Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-22 Thread Paul Johnson
I have had the "too long URL" problem in the past and was monitoring 
this thread. I changed Herbert's test file just slightly (attached), and 
I don't see any difference in the way the 2 urls are treated.  Both are 
broken correctly with pdflatex, but in the other pdf and xdvi output, 
they run off into the right margin and off the edge of the page.

I have the same problem with equations, and in that case I think I have 
no alternative but to break into lines manually.  But with URLs, where 
line placement is more unpredictable, I'm concerned.

Herbert Voss wrote:
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 > I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
 > will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
 > else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert

\the_end

--
Paul E. Johnson   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dept. of Political Sciencehttp://lark.cc.ku.edu/~pauljohn
1541 Lilac Lane, Rm 504
University of Kansas  Office: (785) 864-9086
Lawrence, Kansas 66044-3177   FAX: (785) 864-5700
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 This one runs off the end of the page.
 
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PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
runs outside of the margins.

Thanks,

-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Georg Baum
Jason L W Lynn wrote:

 I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document.
 Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
 wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
 of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
 printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
 this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
 the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
 runs outside of the margins.

Install the url package
(ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/url.sty). The urls
should break automatically afterwards.
I don't know what is wrong if you have installed it already. You can find
out wether LyX did recognize the url package in Help-LaTeX-Configuration.


Georg



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Whoops... sorry... didn't copy the list...

I have url.sty and am using it, but updated to the one you sent.  Still
no luck.

Thanks for you help,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:55, Georg Baum wrote:
 Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 
  I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document.
  Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
  wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
  of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
  printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
  this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
  the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
  runs outside of the margins.
 
 Install the url package
 (ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/url.sty). The urls
 should break automatically afterwards.
 I don't know what is wrong if you have installed it already. You can find
 out wether LyX did recognize the url package in Help-LaTeX-Configuration.
 
 
 Georg
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
runs outside of the margins.
did you insert the url via Insert-Url and did you
use pdflatex or ps2pdf?
Herbert

--
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http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
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http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Yes, I used Insert-URL.
I use pdflatex (View-PDF (pdflatex))

Thanks,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 10:56, Herbert Voss wrote:
 Jason L W Lynn wrote:
  I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
  Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
  wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
  of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
  printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
  this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
  the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
  runs outside of the margins.
 
 did you insert the url via Insert-Url and did you
 use pdflatex or ps2pdf?
 
 Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
Yes, I used Insert-URL.
I use pdflatex (View-PDF (pdflatex))
then send me the doc as private mail
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Unfortunately, I cannot send you the document, but I can send you a test
document that I just created that is causing problems.  See attached.

Thanks,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:26, Herbert Voss wrote:
 Jason L W Lynn wrote:
  Yes, I used Insert-URL.
  I use pdflatex (View-PDF (pdflatex))
 
 then send me the doc as private mail
 
 Herbert
-- 
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Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot send you the document, but I can send you a test
document that I just created that is causing problems.  See attached.
there is a misunderstanding here. The url is broken across the lines,
but not your name for the link, which is in your case the same one.
You can insert a space in the name field, where a linebreak makes
sense. On the other hand it makes no real sense to have sich long
lonks in your text. Use a short one.
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.  So you have the same problem,
I guess?  

Unfortunately, I would like to have the entire URL for the 'Name' in the
link because this will be going to print.  Without the entire URL, there
is no way a reader will know where to go.  

I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
else (for those that are using the electronic copy).

Thanks for your help,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 12:01, Herbert Voss wrote:
 there is a misunderstanding here. The url is broken across the lines,
 but not your name for the link, which is in your case the same one.
 You can insert a space in the name field, where a linebreak makes
 sense. On the other hand it makes no real sense to have sich long
 lonks in your text. Use a short one.
 
 Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Subject: Re: PDF Generation - URL problem
From: Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:05:39 -0600

I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.  So you have the same problem,
I guess?  

Unfortunately, I would like to have the entire URL for the 'Name' in the
link because this will be going to print.  Without the entire URL, there
is no way a reader will know where to go.  

I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
else (for those that are using the electronic copy).

It seems to me that the implementation of a link in LyX is misleading,
as the user would like the Name to behave as an anchor.

Using ERT (or external postfiltering of the lyx file), I usually
put external links as footnotes, anchored to the name, using the
appropriate command in latex2html. Once turned in html, I get a real anchor.
In that way, I get the hyperlink in electronic docs (either html or pdf)
but the url remains printed in normal documents.

In addition, printing as a footnote minimizes the risk of url hyphenation.

However, it's not great when there are lots of urls in the page (but in that
case, a html document would be better IMHO).

-- 
Jean-Pierre





Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
 will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
 else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes
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Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Suat Ayoz
An entirely non-LyX solution:
Of course such long URLs are undesirable in general and that's why they 
invented tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/
Copy and paste your long URL there, and they will generate a shorter 
(tiny) one for you.

Suat
Herbert Voss wrote:
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
 will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
 else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert



PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
runs outside of the margins.

Thanks,

-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Georg Baum
Jason L W Lynn wrote:

 I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document.
 Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
 wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
 of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
 printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
 this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
 the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
 runs outside of the margins.

Install the url package
(ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/url.sty). The urls
should break automatically afterwards.
I don't know what is wrong if you have installed it already. You can find
out wether LyX did recognize the url package in Help-LaTeX-Configuration.


Georg



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Whoops... sorry... didn't copy the list...

I have url.sty and am using it, but updated to the one you sent.  Still
no luck.

Thanks for you help,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:55, Georg Baum wrote:
 Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 
  I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document.
  Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
  wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
  of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
  printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
  this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
  the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
  runs outside of the margins.
 
 Install the url package
 (ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/url.sty). The urls
 should break automatically afterwards.
 I don't know what is wrong if you have installed it already. You can find
 out wether LyX did recognize the url package in Help-LaTeX-Configuration.
 
 
 Georg
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
runs outside of the margins.
did you insert the url via Insert-Url and did you
use pdflatex or ps2pdf?
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Yes, I used Insert-URL.
I use pdflatex (View-PDF (pdflatex))

Thanks,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 10:56, Herbert Voss wrote:
 Jason L W Lynn wrote:
  I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
  Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
  wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
  of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
  printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
  this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
  the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
  runs outside of the margins.
 
 did you insert the url via Insert-Url and did you
 use pdflatex or ps2pdf?
 
 Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
Yes, I used Insert-URL.
I use pdflatex (View-PDF (pdflatex))
then send me the doc as private mail
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Unfortunately, I cannot send you the document, but I can send you a test
document that I just created that is causing problems.  See attached.

Thanks,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:26, Herbert Voss wrote:
 Jason L W Lynn wrote:
  Yes, I used Insert-URL.
  I use pdflatex (View-PDF (pdflatex))
 
 then send me the doc as private mail
 
 Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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.
\layout Standard

While this URL is one example that is not causing troubles with PDF 
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\end_inset 


\the_end


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot send you the document, but I can send you a test
document that I just created that is causing problems.  See attached.
there is a misunderstanding here. The url is broken across the lines,
but not your name for the link, which is in your case the same one.
You can insert a space in the name field, where a linebreak makes
sense. On the other hand it makes no real sense to have sich long
lonks in your text. Use a short one.
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.  So you have the same problem,
I guess?  

Unfortunately, I would like to have the entire URL for the 'Name' in the
link because this will be going to print.  Without the entire URL, there
is no way a reader will know where to go.  

I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
else (for those that are using the electronic copy).

Thanks for your help,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 12:01, Herbert Voss wrote:
 there is a misunderstanding here. The url is broken across the lines,
 but not your name for the link, which is in your case the same one.
 You can insert a space in the name field, where a linebreak makes
 sense. On the other hand it makes no real sense to have sich long
 lonks in your text. Use a short one.
 
 Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

Subject: Re: PDF Generation - URL problem
From: Jason L W Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Herbert Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:05:39 -0600

I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.  So you have the same problem,
I guess?  

Unfortunately, I would like to have the entire URL for the 'Name' in the
link because this will be going to print.  Without the entire URL, there
is no way a reader will know where to go.  

I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
else (for those that are using the electronic copy).

It seems to me that the implementation of a link in LyX is misleading,
as the user would like the Name to behave as an anchor.

Using ERT (or external postfiltering of the lyx file), I usually
put external links as footnotes, anchored to the name, using the
appropriate command in latex2html. Once turned in html, I get a real anchor.
In that way, I get the hyperlink in electronic docs (either html or pdf)
but the url remains printed in normal documents.

In addition, printing as a footnote minimizes the risk of url hyphenation.

However, it's not great when there are lots of urls in the page (but in that
case, a html document would be better IMHO).

-- 
Jean-Pierre





Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
 will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
 else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
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\layout Standard

This URL is one example that is causing trouble with PDF generation 
\begin_inset LatexCommand 
\url{http://www.blkaskjsd.lsdkjslkjsd.com/sdlkjlsd/alksjdlkjsd/lksdjlkjsd.html}

\end_inset 

.
\layout Standard

While this URL is one example that is not causing troubles with PDF 
\begin_inset LatexCommand 
\url{http://www.blkaskjsd.lsdkjslkjsd.com/sdlkjlsd/alksjdlkjsd/lksdjlkjsd.html}

\end_inset 


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Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Suat Ayoz
An entirely non-LyX solution:
Of course such long URLs are undesirable in general and that's why they 
invented tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/
Copy and paste your long URL there, and they will generate a shorter 
(tiny) one for you.

Suat
Herbert Voss wrote:
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
 I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
 will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
 else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert



PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
runs outside of the margins.

Thanks,

-- 
Jason L W Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Georg Baum
Jason L W Lynn wrote:

> I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document.
> Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
> wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
> of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
> printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
> this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
> the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
> runs outside of the margins.

Install the url package
(ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/url.sty). The urls
should break automatically afterwards.
I don't know what is wrong if you have installed it already. You can find
out wether LyX did recognize the url package in Help->LaTeX-Configuration.


Georg



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Whoops... sorry... didn't copy the list...

I have url.sty and am using it, but updated to the one you sent.  Still
no luck.

Thanks for you help,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 09:55, Georg Baum wrote:
> Jason L W Lynn wrote:
> 
> > I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document.
> > Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
> > wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
> > of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
> > printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
> > this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
> > the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
> > runs outside of the margins.
> 
> Install the url package
> (ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/misc/url.sty). The urls
> should break automatically afterwards.
> I don't know what is wrong if you have installed it already. You can find
> out wether LyX did recognize the url package in Help->LaTeX-Configuration.
> 
> 
> Georg
-- 
Jason L W Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
runs outside of the margins.
did you insert the url via Insert->Url and did you
use pdflatex or ps2pdf?
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Yes, I used Insert->URL.
I use pdflatex (View->PDF (pdflatex))

Thanks,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 10:56, Herbert Voss wrote:
> Jason L W Lynn wrote:
> > I'm having a problem with my pdflatex generation of my lyx document. 
> > Any URLs that do not contain spaces (and are rather long) are not line
> > wrapping at the right margin.  In fact, they are printing straight off
> > of the page.  The URL name is usually the exact same as the URL (so that
> > printed copies show the URL as well).  Does anyone know how to correct
> > this problem?  Has anyone seen this before?  I'd rather not go through
> > the entire document and insert forced line feeds before every link that
> > runs outside of the margins.
> 
> did you insert the url via Insert->Url and did you
> use pdflatex or ps2pdf?
> 
> Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
Yes, I used Insert->URL.
I use pdflatex (View->PDF (pdflatex))
then send me the doc as private mail
Herbert

--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
Unfortunately, I cannot send you the document, but I can send you a test
document that I just created that is causing problems.  See attached.

Thanks,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 11:26, Herbert Voss wrote:
> Jason L W Lynn wrote:
> > Yes, I used Insert->URL.
> > I use pdflatex (View->PDF (pdflatex))
> 
> then send me the doc as private mail
> 
> Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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.
\layout Standard

While this URL is one example that is not causing troubles with PDF 
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\end_inset 


\the_end


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
Unfortunately, I cannot send you the document, but I can send you a test
document that I just created that is causing problems.  See attached.
there is a misunderstanding here. The url is broken across the lines,
but not your name for the link, which is in your case the same one.
You can insert a space in the name field, where a linebreak makes
sense. On the other hand it makes no real sense to have sich long
lonks in your text. Use a short one.
Herbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jason L W Lynn
I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.  So you have the same problem,
I guess?  

Unfortunately, I would like to have the entire URL for the 'Name' in the
link because this will be going to print.  Without the entire URL, there
is no way a reader will know where to go.  

I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
else (for those that are using the electronic copy).

Thanks for your help,

jason

On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 12:01, Herbert Voss wrote:
> there is a misunderstanding here. The url is broken across the lines,
> but not your name for the link, which is in your case the same one.
> You can insert a space in the name field, where a linebreak makes
> sense. On the other hand it makes no real sense to have sich long
> lonks in your text. Use a short one.
> 
> Herbert
-- 
Jason L W Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Jean-Pierre Chretien

>>Subject: Re: PDF Generation - URL problem
>>From: Jason L W Lynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Herbert Voss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 12:05:39 -0600
>>
>>I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear.  So you have the same problem,
>>I guess?  
>>
>>Unfortunately, I would like to have the entire URL for the 'Name' in the
>>link because this will be going to print.  Without the entire URL, there
>>is no way a reader will know where to go.  
>>
>>I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
>>will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
>>else (for those that are using the electronic copy).

It seems to me that the implementation of a link in LyX is misleading,
as the user would like the Name to behave as an anchor.

Using ERT (or external postfiltering of the lyx file), I usually
put external links as footnotes, anchored to the name, using the
appropriate command in latex2html. Once turned in html, I get a real anchor.
In that way, I get the hyperlink in electronic docs (either html or pdf)
but the url remains printed in normal documents.

In addition, printing as a footnote minimizes the risk of url hyphenation.

However, it's not great when there are lots of urls in the page (but in that
case, a html document would be better IMHO).

-- 
Jean-Pierre





Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Herbert Voss
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
> I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
> will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
> else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert
--
http://TeXnik.de/
http://PSTricks.de/
ftp://ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/info/math/voss/Voss-Mathmode.pdf
http://www.dante.de/faq/de-tex-faq/
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?introduction=yes
#LyX 1.3 created this file. For more info see http://www.lyx.org/
\lyxformat 221
\textclass article
\begin_preamble
\usepackage[colorlinks]{hyperref}
\end_preamble
\language english
\inputencoding auto
\fontscheme default
\graphics default
\paperfontsize default
\spacing single 
\papersize Custom
\paperpackage a4
\use_geometry 1
\use_amsmath 0
\use_natbib 0
\use_numerical_citations 0
\paperorientation portrait
\paperwidth 15cm
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\tocdepth 3
\paragraph_separation indent
\defskip medskip
\quotes_language english
\quotes_times 2
\papercolumns 1
\papersides 1
\paperpagestyle default

\layout Standard

This URL is one example that is causing trouble with PDF generation 
\begin_inset LatexCommand 
\url{http://www.blkaskjsd.lsdkjslkjsd.com/sdlkjlsd/alksjdlkjsd/lksdjlkjsd.html}

\end_inset 

.
\layout Standard

While this URL is one example that is not causing troubles with PDF 
\begin_inset LatexCommand 
\url{http://www.blkaskjsd.lsdkjslkjsd.com/sdlkjlsd/alksjdlkjsd/lksdjlkjsd.html}

\end_inset 


\the_end


Re: PDF Generation - URL problem

2004-11-19 Thread Suat Ayoz
An entirely non-LyX solution:
Of course such long URLs are undesirable in general and that's why they 
invented tinyurl:

http://tinyurl.com/
Copy and paste your long URL there, and they will generate a shorter 
(tiny) one for you.

Suat
Herbert Voss wrote:
Jason L W Lynn wrote:
> I guess there isn't a solution to this problem as of yet.  Perhaps I
> will have to keep the URL as standard text and put the link somewhere
> else (for those that are using the electronic copy).
you do not understand what I mean. Attached your doc, run
it with pdflatex and everything will be as you expect.
HErbert