Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:
 Paul Johnson schrieb:

 I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
 minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
 are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
 print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
 attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
 in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

 This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that
 you find in LyX's Help menu.

 regards Uwe

Ah, thanks.

I find myself wondering why LyX  allows one to insert of a footnote in
a parbox, if that is forbidden by LaTeX.

Do  you think that the various LyX manuals can ever be linked
together or connected somehow with a unified table of contents?  For
the user, it is difficult to know which manual to look through when
trying to find things like this.

PJ

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I find myself wondering why LyX  allows one to insert of a footnote in
a parbox, if that is forbidden by LaTeX.


Because it is not forbidden ;-) You can do this, the footnote will only not be shown. But there 
might be LaTeX packages that changes the code so this it will be shown specially in the output. As 
long as LaTeX don't give an error or warning LyX must therefore allow such things.



Do  you think that the various LyX manuals can ever be linked
together or connected somehow with a unified table of contents?


Not as a single LyX/PDF file, because this would be unmaintainable. But I plan to provide a HTML 
file build out of the manuals. A LyX user is currently developing a new LyX2HTML converter which 
seems to be able to do this.


Currently there are 4 basic manuals:
- The UserGuide that at least gives an overview about ALL features and that often links to the 
specific manuals.
-The EmbeddedObjects manual that explains Tables, floats, graphics, boxes, external material, and 
program listings in detail

- The Math manual
- The Customization manual

The last two are self explanatory. The Intro manual now also lists them and explains shortly what 
they are about. (I just updated this section for the next release.)


regards Uwe

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Uwe Stöhr uwesto...@web.de wrote:
 Paul Johnson schrieb:

 I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
 minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
 are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
 print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
 attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
 in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

 This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that
 you find in LyX's Help menu.

 regards Uwe

Ah, thanks.

I find myself wondering why LyX  allows one to insert of a footnote in
a parbox, if that is forbidden by LaTeX.

Do  you think that the various LyX manuals can ever be linked
together or connected somehow with a unified table of contents?  For
the user, it is difficult to know which manual to look through when
trying to find things like this.

PJ

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I find myself wondering why LyX  allows one to insert of a footnote in
a parbox, if that is forbidden by LaTeX.


Because it is not forbidden ;-) You can do this, the footnote will only not be shown. But there 
might be LaTeX packages that changes the code so this it will be shown specially in the output. As 
long as LaTeX don't give an error or warning LyX must therefore allow such things.



Do  you think that the various LyX manuals can ever be linked
together or connected somehow with a unified table of contents?


Not as a single LyX/PDF file, because this would be unmaintainable. But I plan to provide a HTML 
file build out of the manuals. A LyX user is currently developing a new LyX2HTML converter which 
seems to be able to do this.


Currently there are 4 basic manuals:
- The UserGuide that at least gives an overview about ALL features and that often links to the 
specific manuals.
-The EmbeddedObjects manual that explains Tables, floats, graphics, boxes, external material, and 
program listings in detail

- The Math manual
- The Customization manual

The last two are self explanatory. The Intro manual now also lists them and explains shortly what 
they are about. (I just updated this section for the next release.)


regards Uwe

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Paul Johnson]

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Uwe Stöhr  wrote:
> Paul Johnson schrieb:
>
>> I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
>> minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
>> are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
>> print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
>> attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
>> in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.
>
> This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that
> you find in LyX's Help menu.
>
> regards Uwe
>
Ah, thanks.

I find myself wondering why LyX  allows one to insert of a footnote in
a parbox, if that is forbidden by LaTeX.

Do  you think that the various LyX manuals can ever be "linked
together" or connected somehow with a unified table of contents?  For
the user, it is difficult to know which manual to look through when
trying to find things like this.

PJ

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I find myself wondering why LyX  allows one to insert of a footnote in
a parbox, if that is forbidden by LaTeX.


Because it is not forbidden ;-) You can do this, the footnote will only not be shown. But there 
might be LaTeX packages that changes the code so this it will be shown specially in the output. As 
long as LaTeX don't give an error or warning LyX must therefore allow such things.



Do  you think that the various LyX manuals can ever be "linked
together" or connected somehow with a unified table of contents?


Not as a single LyX/PDF file, because this would be unmaintainable. But I plan to provide a HTML 
file build out of the manuals. A LyX user is currently developing a new LyX2HTML converter which 
seems to be able to do this.


Currently there are 4 basic manuals:
- The UserGuide that at least gives an overview about ALL features and that often links to the 
specific manuals.
-The EmbeddedObjects manual that explains Tables, floats, graphics, boxes, external material, and 
program listings in detail

- The Math manual
- The Customization manual

The last two are self explanatory. The Intro manual now also lists them and explains shortly what 
they are about. (I just updated this section for the next release.)


regards Uwe

Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Paul Johnson]

I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

Aside from never use a footnote in a parbox, what lesson is to be learned??

pj

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas


minipageAndParbox.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.


This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that you 
find in LyX's Help menu.

regards Uwe

Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Paul Johnson]

I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

Aside from never use a footnote in a parbox, what lesson is to be learned??

pj

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas


minipageAndParbox.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.


This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that you 
find in LyX's Help menu.

regards Uwe

Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Paul Johnson]

I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.

Aside from "never use a footnote in a parbox", what lesson is to be learned??

pj

-- 
Paul E. Johnson
Professor, Political Science
1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
University of Kansas


minipageAndParbox.lyx
Description: application/lyx

Re: Parbox footnote disappears. LyX example attached

[Uwe Stöhr]

Paul Johnson schrieb:


I have been testing the LyX box insert.  I don't know much about
minipages, but I can see one major advantage is that footnotes in them
are not numbered with the notes in the rest of the document and they
print at the bottom of the minipage. Neat!  The test document is
attached. Inside a parbox, I can insert a footnote and it is numbered
in sequence with the document, but the footnote never prints out.


This behaviour is described in detail in LyX's EmbeddedObjects manual that you 
find in LyX's Help menu.

regards Uwe