RE: Bibtex Problem

2008-10-12 Thread Daniel Herzig
Thank you, the problem was a syntax error... using a diacritic latex command 
not properly!

Daniel



Hi,

I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
(my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

thanks in advance,
daniel
---BeginMessage---
Hi,

I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
(my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

thanks in advance,
daniel
---End Message---


RE: Bibtex Problem

2008-10-12 Thread Daniel Herzig
Thank you, the problem was a syntax error... using a diacritic latex command 
not properly!

Daniel



Hi,

I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
(my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

thanks in advance,
daniel
---BeginMessage---
Hi,

I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
(my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

thanks in advance,
daniel
---End Message---


RE: Bibtex Problem

2008-10-12 Thread Daniel Herzig
Thank you, the problem was a syntax error... using a diacritic latex command 
not properly!

Daniel



Hi,

I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
(my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

thanks in advance,
daniel
--- Begin Message ---
Hi,

I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
(my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

thanks in advance,
daniel
--- End Message ---


Re: Bibtex Problem

2008-10-10 Thread Cameron Stone
On Saturday 11 October 2008 09:51:39 am Daniel Herzig wrote:
 I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
 I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
 program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
 won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
 the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
 beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
 (my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

I'm using kbibtex (0.2.1) and lyx (1.5.6) for my thesis and it works fine with 
178 entries.

I have experienced the situation you described, but only when I've added an 
entry to kbibtex, but not saved it. If I then save bibtex file in kbibtex, the 
next time I open the insert-citation dialog, then it's there.

Hope your problem is this simple.

Cameron.

===

History is written by the victor.

Cameron Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===



Re: Bibtex Problem

2008-10-10 Thread Cameron Stone
On Saturday 11 October 2008 09:51:39 am Daniel Herzig wrote:
 I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
 I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
 program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
 won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
 the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
 beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
 (my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

I'm using kbibtex (0.2.1) and lyx (1.5.6) for my thesis and it works fine with 
178 entries.

I have experienced the situation you described, but only when I've added an 
entry to kbibtex, but not saved it. If I then save bibtex file in kbibtex, the 
next time I open the insert-citation dialog, then it's there.

Hope your problem is this simple.

Cameron.

===

History is written by the victor.

Cameron Stone[EMAIL PROTECTED]
===



Re: Bibtex Problem

2008-10-10 Thread Cameron Stone
On Saturday 11 October 2008 09:51:39 am Daniel Herzig wrote:
> I've got a problem inserting bibtex entries into my masterthesis.
> I added a new entry into my bibtex database (using kbibtex). Within the 
> program it shows up, but in the citation insert dialogue inside lyx it 
> won't . It's a standard entry, and i already have a literature list added in 
> the end of my document (that lists the other inserted citations 
> beautifully) - is there maybe a database limit that lyx can handle?
> (my database has about a hundred entries, that shouldn't be too much)

I'm using kbibtex (0.2.1) and lyx (1.5.6) for my thesis and it works fine with 
178 entries.

I have experienced the situation you described, but only when I've added an 
entry to kbibtex, but not saved it. If I then save bibtex file in kbibtex, the 
next time I open the insert-citation dialog, then it's there.

Hope your problem is this simple.

Cameron.

===

History is written by the victor.

Cameron Stone<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
===



Re: Bibtex problem: Question marks instead of citations [RESOLVED]

2007-09-29 Thread Christian Liesen

... well, well ...

I found it. I had several citations with the ampersand '' in the 
journal's title. Replacing this with '\' did the trick: My document 
output is fine now.


Silly me.

-- Christian



Christian Liesen wrote:

Hi,

I'm writing a scrreport with LyX 1.5.1 (Mac) and have a problem with 
Bibtex.


I have a lot of citations, and until yesterday evening, everything 
went smoothly. Then all of a sudden LyX started complaining about a 
Misplaced alignment tab character . Bibtex stopped formatting any 
citations in the text -- question marks appear instead --, but it does 
still produce the bibliography at the end of the PDF output.


I exported to LateX and checked the file -- no misplaced  (instead of 
\) anywhere.


I've spend hours now and cannot get it back to work. Does anyone know 
how to debug this?


Many thanks,
-- Christian





Re: Bibtex problem: Question marks instead of citations [RESOLVED]

2007-09-29 Thread M-L
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Christian Liesen shared this with us all:
--} ... well, well ...
--}
--} I found it. I had several citations with the ampersand '' in the
--} journal's title. Replacing this with '\' did the trick: My document
--} output is fine now.
--}
--} Silly me.
--}
--} -- Christian
--}
--}
--}
--} Christian Liesen wrote:
--}  Hi,
--} 
--}  I'm writing a scrreport with LyX 1.5.1 (Mac) and have a problem with
--}  Bibtex.
--} 
--}  I have a lot of citations, and until yesterday evening, everything
--}  went smoothly. Then all of a sudden LyX started complaining about a
--}  Misplaced alignment tab character . Bibtex stopped formatting any
--}  citations in the text -- question marks appear instead --, but it does
--}  still produce the bibliography at the end of the PDF output.
--} 
--}  I exported to LateX and checked the file -- no misplaced  (instead of
--}  \) anywhere.
--} 
--}  I've spend hours now and cannot get it back to work. Does anyone know
--}  how to debug this?
--} 
--}  Many thanks,
--}  -- Christian

Clever you Christian, and thanks for bringing this to our attention so we may 
not try the same thing.

Thank you,
Charlie
-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
What is to give light must endure burning. ---VIKTOR FRANKL

Debian - Just the best way to do magic.


Re: Bibtex problem: Question marks instead of citations [RESOLVED]

2007-09-29 Thread Christian Liesen

... well, well ...

I found it. I had several citations with the ampersand '' in the 
journal's title. Replacing this with '\' did the trick: My document 
output is fine now.


Silly me.

-- Christian



Christian Liesen wrote:

Hi,

I'm writing a scrreport with LyX 1.5.1 (Mac) and have a problem with 
Bibtex.


I have a lot of citations, and until yesterday evening, everything 
went smoothly. Then all of a sudden LyX started complaining about a 
Misplaced alignment tab character . Bibtex stopped formatting any 
citations in the text -- question marks appear instead --, but it does 
still produce the bibliography at the end of the PDF output.


I exported to LateX and checked the file -- no misplaced  (instead of 
\) anywhere.


I've spend hours now and cannot get it back to work. Does anyone know 
how to debug this?


Many thanks,
-- Christian





Re: Bibtex problem: Question marks instead of citations [RESOLVED]

2007-09-29 Thread M-L
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Christian Liesen shared this with us all:
--} ... well, well ...
--}
--} I found it. I had several citations with the ampersand '' in the
--} journal's title. Replacing this with '\' did the trick: My document
--} output is fine now.
--}
--} Silly me.
--}
--} -- Christian
--}
--}
--}
--} Christian Liesen wrote:
--}  Hi,
--} 
--}  I'm writing a scrreport with LyX 1.5.1 (Mac) and have a problem with
--}  Bibtex.
--} 
--}  I have a lot of citations, and until yesterday evening, everything
--}  went smoothly. Then all of a sudden LyX started complaining about a
--}  Misplaced alignment tab character . Bibtex stopped formatting any
--}  citations in the text -- question marks appear instead --, but it does
--}  still produce the bibliography at the end of the PDF output.
--} 
--}  I exported to LateX and checked the file -- no misplaced  (instead of
--}  \) anywhere.
--} 
--}  I've spend hours now and cannot get it back to work. Does anyone know
--}  how to debug this?
--} 
--}  Many thanks,
--}  -- Christian

Clever you Christian, and thanks for bringing this to our attention so we may 
not try the same thing.

Thank you,
Charlie
-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
What is to give light must endure burning. ---VIKTOR FRANKL

Debian - Just the best way to do magic.


Re: Bibtex problem: Question marks instead of citations [RESOLVED]

2007-09-29 Thread Christian Liesen

... well, well ...

I found it. I had several citations with the ampersand '&' in the 
journal's title. Replacing this with '\&' did the trick: My document 
output is fine now.


Silly me.

-- Christian



Christian Liesen wrote:

Hi,

I'm writing a scrreport with LyX 1.5.1 (Mac) and have a problem with 
Bibtex.


I have a lot of citations, and until yesterday evening, everything 
went smoothly. Then all of a sudden LyX started complaining about a 
"Misplaced alignment tab character &". Bibtex stopped formatting any 
citations in the text -- question marks appear instead --, but it does 
still produce the bibliography at the end of the PDF output.


I exported to LateX and checked the file -- no misplaced & (instead of 
\&) anywhere.


I've spend hours now and cannot get it back to work. Does anyone know 
how to debug this?


Many thanks,
-- Christian





Re: Bibtex problem: Question marks instead of citations [RESOLVED]

2007-09-29 Thread M-L
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Christian Liesen shared this with us all:
>--} ... well, well ...
>--}
>--} I found it. I had several citations with the ampersand '&' in the
>--} journal's title. Replacing this with '\&' did the trick: My document
>--} output is fine now.
>--}
>--} Silly me.
>--}
>--} -- Christian
>--}
>--}
>--}
>--} Christian Liesen wrote:
>--} > Hi,
>--} >
>--} > I'm writing a scrreport with LyX 1.5.1 (Mac) and have a problem with
>--} > Bibtex.
>--} >
>--} > I have a lot of citations, and until yesterday evening, everything
>--} > went smoothly. Then all of a sudden LyX started complaining about a
>--} > "Misplaced alignment tab character &". Bibtex stopped formatting any
>--} > citations in the text -- question marks appear instead --, but it does
>--} > still produce the bibliography at the end of the PDF output.
>--} >
>--} > I exported to LateX and checked the file -- no misplaced & (instead of
>--} > \&) anywhere.
>--} >
>--} > I've spend hours now and cannot get it back to work. Does anyone know
>--} > how to debug this?
>--} >
>--} > Many thanks,
>--} > -- Christian

Clever you Christian, and thanks for bringing this to our attention so we may 
not try the same thing.

Thank you,
Charlie
-- 
Registered Linux User:- 329524
+++
What is to give light must endure burning. ---VIKTOR FRANKL
<<<>
Debian - Just the best way to do magic.


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-28 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
lamikr wrote:
 That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
 the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
 Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
 give some kind of warning in a situations like this?

I think LyX should catch bibtex errors in the same way it catches LaTeX errors 
and report them via the LaTeX error dialog. This is a request we are aware of 
(I think there's also a report on bugzilla).

Jürgen


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-28 Thread lamikr
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 lamikr wrote:
   
 That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
 the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
 Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
 give some kind of warning in a situations like this?
 

 I think LyX should catch bibtex errors in the same way it catches LaTeX 
 errors 
 and report them via the LaTeX error dialog. This is a request we are aware of 
 (I think there's also a report on bugzilla).
   
Yes, actually I think that it would be nice if Lyx could check some of
the errors like invalid keyword even earlier when the bibtex database
is added to
Lyx document or when the references with invalid keyword are itself created.

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-28 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
lamikr wrote:
 That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
 the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
 Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
 give some kind of warning in a situations like this?

I think LyX should catch bibtex errors in the same way it catches LaTeX errors 
and report them via the LaTeX error dialog. This is a request we are aware of 
(I think there's also a report on bugzilla).

Jürgen


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-28 Thread lamikr
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 lamikr wrote:
   
 That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
 the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
 Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
 give some kind of warning in a situations like this?
 

 I think LyX should catch bibtex errors in the same way it catches LaTeX 
 errors 
 and report them via the LaTeX error dialog. This is a request we are aware of 
 (I think there's also a report on bugzilla).
   
Yes, actually I think that it would be nice if Lyx could check some of
the errors like invalid keyword even earlier when the bibtex database
is added to
Lyx document or when the references with invalid keyword are itself created.

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-28 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
lamikr wrote:
> That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
> the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
> Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
> give some kind of warning in a situations like this?

I think LyX should catch bibtex errors in the same way it catches LaTeX errors 
and report them via the LaTeX error dialog. This is a request we are aware of 
(I think there's also a report on bugzilla).

Jürgen


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-28 Thread lamikr
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> lamikr wrote:
>   
>> That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
>> the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
>> Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
>> give some kind of warning in a situations like this?
>> 
>
> I think LyX should catch bibtex errors in the same way it catches LaTeX 
> errors 
> and report them via the LaTeX error dialog. This is a request we are aware of 
> (I think there's also a report on bugzilla).
>   
Yes, actually I think that it would be nice if Lyx could check some of
the errors like "invalid keyword" even earlier when the bibtex database
is added to
Lyx document or when the references with invalid keyword are itself created.

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread lamikr
Alex Casti wrote:
 Hello.  I'm running the Linux version 1.4.3 on Fedora
 5 (64 bit).  I'm having trouble with the usual tried
 and true method of inserting references with BibTex. 
 My addition of citations seems to work fine when I
 look at the lyx file itself, but the output to DVI or
 PDF just gives [?] for the citations, and the
 References section is blank.
   
Hi

I have been trying to get the bibtex referencing to work with a very
simple documents in Linux but my problems looks similar than described
here for the windows. Reference looks good when writing the text in Lyx,
but in the PDF document the references are replaced with [?].

I have myself tested both with the Mandriva 2007 and Debian Etch
(updated 2006.12.25 date) both using the Lyx 1.4.2
I have attached both of the example lyx documents, bibtex files and
generated pdf files as an attachment.

Mandriva 2007 Test with Lyx 1.4.2
-
- test2.lyx
- ref.bif (created with kbibtex)
- test2.pdf

Debian Etch Test with Lyx 1.4.2
-
- test.lyx
- master_thesis_ref.bib  (created with gbib)
- test.pdf

My ultimate goal is to use lyx for writing my master thesis in a way
where the text would only show the references number ([3], [21], ...) and
in the end of the document would be a list of all referenced material
(sorted by using authors last name as a key)

I have attached the example files within this document in tar.bz2 package.
(also available from
http://aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi:8080/lyx_bibtex_problem.tar.bz2)

Here are also some of the output I am seeing in the Lyx console when
using Mandriva.

The top-level auxiliary file: test2.aux
The style file: plain.bst
White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
 : \citation{Embedded
 :Systems Architecture}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
I found no cite keys---while reading file test2.aux
Database file #1:
0_home_lamikr_own_h6300_docs_writings_master_thesis_1_ref.bib
I was expecting a `,' or a `}'---line 1 of file
0_home_lamikr_own_h6300_docs_writings_master_thesis_1_ref.bib
 : @book{ Embedded
 : Systems Architecture,
I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry
(There were 3 error messages)
OkCancelPolicy: No transition for input SMI_RESTORE from state INITIAL
This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.5)
The top-level auxiliary file: test.aux
White space in argument---line 2 of file test.aux
 : \citation{Levy
 :Steven Hackers}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
The style file: plain.bst

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
lamikr wrote:
 White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
  : \citation{Embedded
  :                    Systems Architecture}
 I'm skipping whatever remains of this command

As the error message states: you are using invalid white space in the argument 
of the citation entry. Change the bibliography key from Embedded Systems 
Architecture to EmbeddedSystemsArchitecture, and you're done (I'm actually 
surprised that kbibtex lets you create such a key; pybliographer here 
complains that it is invalid; I'd suggest to write a big report to the 
kbibtex author).

Jürgen


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread lamikr
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 lamikr wrote:
   
 White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
  : \citation{Embedded
  :Systems Architecture}
 I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
 

 As the error message states: you are using invalid white space in the 
 argument 
 of the citation entry. Change the bibliography key from Embedded Systems 
 Architecture to EmbeddedSystemsArchitecture, and you're done (I'm actually 
 surprised that kbibtex lets you create such a key; pybliographer here 
 complains that it is invalid; I'd suggest to write a big report to the 
 kbibtex author).
   
That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
give some kind of warning in a situations like this?

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread lamikr
Alex Casti wrote:
 Hello.  I'm running the Linux version 1.4.3 on Fedora
 5 (64 bit).  I'm having trouble with the usual tried
 and true method of inserting references with BibTex. 
 My addition of citations seems to work fine when I
 look at the lyx file itself, but the output to DVI or
 PDF just gives [?] for the citations, and the
 References section is blank.
   
Hi

I have been trying to get the bibtex referencing to work with a very
simple documents in Linux but my problems looks similar than described
here for the windows. Reference looks good when writing the text in Lyx,
but in the PDF document the references are replaced with [?].

I have myself tested both with the Mandriva 2007 and Debian Etch
(updated 2006.12.25 date) both using the Lyx 1.4.2
I have attached both of the example lyx documents, bibtex files and
generated pdf files as an attachment.

Mandriva 2007 Test with Lyx 1.4.2
-
- test2.lyx
- ref.bif (created with kbibtex)
- test2.pdf

Debian Etch Test with Lyx 1.4.2
-
- test.lyx
- master_thesis_ref.bib  (created with gbib)
- test.pdf

My ultimate goal is to use lyx for writing my master thesis in a way
where the text would only show the references number ([3], [21], ...) and
in the end of the document would be a list of all referenced material
(sorted by using authors last name as a key)

I have attached the example files within this document in tar.bz2 package.
(also available from
http://aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi:8080/lyx_bibtex_problem.tar.bz2)

Here are also some of the output I am seeing in the Lyx console when
using Mandriva.

The top-level auxiliary file: test2.aux
The style file: plain.bst
White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
 : \citation{Embedded
 :Systems Architecture}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
I found no cite keys---while reading file test2.aux
Database file #1:
0_home_lamikr_own_h6300_docs_writings_master_thesis_1_ref.bib
I was expecting a `,' or a `}'---line 1 of file
0_home_lamikr_own_h6300_docs_writings_master_thesis_1_ref.bib
 : @book{ Embedded
 : Systems Architecture,
I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry
(There were 3 error messages)
OkCancelPolicy: No transition for input SMI_RESTORE from state INITIAL
This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.5)
The top-level auxiliary file: test.aux
White space in argument---line 2 of file test.aux
 : \citation{Levy
 :Steven Hackers}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
The style file: plain.bst

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
lamikr wrote:
 White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
  : \citation{Embedded
  :                    Systems Architecture}
 I'm skipping whatever remains of this command

As the error message states: you are using invalid white space in the argument 
of the citation entry. Change the bibliography key from Embedded Systems 
Architecture to EmbeddedSystemsArchitecture, and you're done (I'm actually 
surprised that kbibtex lets you create such a key; pybliographer here 
complains that it is invalid; I'd suggest to write a big report to the 
kbibtex author).

Jürgen


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread lamikr
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
 lamikr wrote:
   
 White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
  : \citation{Embedded
  :Systems Architecture}
 I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
 

 As the error message states: you are using invalid white space in the 
 argument 
 of the citation entry. Change the bibliography key from Embedded Systems 
 Architecture to EmbeddedSystemsArchitecture, and you're done (I'm actually 
 surprised that kbibtex lets you create such a key; pybliographer here 
 complains that it is invalid; I'd suggest to write a big report to the 
 kbibtex author).
   
That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
give some kind of warning in a situations like this?

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread lamikr
Alex Casti wrote:
> Hello.  I'm running the Linux version 1.4.3 on Fedora
> 5 (64 bit).  I'm having trouble with the usual tried
> and true method of inserting references with BibTex. 
> My addition of citations seems to work fine when I
> look at the lyx file itself, but the output to DVI or
> PDF just gives [?] for the citations, and the
> References section is blank.
>   
Hi

I have been trying to get the bibtex referencing to work with a very
simple documents in Linux but my problems looks similar than described
here for the windows. Reference looks good when writing the text in Lyx,
but in the PDF document the references are replaced with [?].

I have myself tested both with the Mandriva 2007 and Debian Etch
(updated 2006.12.25 date) both using the Lyx 1.4.2
I have attached both of the example lyx documents, bibtex files and
generated pdf files as an attachment.

Mandriva 2007 Test with Lyx 1.4.2
-
- test2.lyx
- ref.bif (created with kbibtex)
- test2.pdf

Debian Etch Test with Lyx 1.4.2
-
- test.lyx
- master_thesis_ref.bib  (created with gbib)
- test.pdf

My ultimate goal is to use lyx for writing my master thesis in a way
where the text would only show the references number ([3], [21], ...) and
in the end of the document would be a list of all referenced material
(sorted by using authors last name as a key)

I have attached the example files within this document in tar.bz2 package.
(also available from
http://aragorn.kortex.jyu.fi:8080/lyx_bibtex_problem.tar.bz2)

Here are also some of the output I am seeing in the Lyx console when
using Mandriva.

The top-level auxiliary file: test2.aux
The style file: plain.bst
White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
 : \citation{Embedded
 :Systems Architecture}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
I found no cite keys---while reading file test2.aux
Database file #1:
0_home_lamikr_own_h6300_docs_writings_master_thesis_1_ref.bib
I was expecting a `,' or a `}'---line 1 of file
0_home_lamikr_own_h6300_docs_writings_master_thesis_1_ref.bib
 : @book{ Embedded
 : Systems Architecture,
I'm skipping whatever remains of this entry
(There were 3 error messages)
OkCancelPolicy: No transition for input SMI_RESTORE from state INITIAL
This is BibTeX, Version 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.5)
The top-level auxiliary file: test.aux
White space in argument---line 2 of file test.aux
 : \citation{Levy
 :Steven Hackers}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
The style file: plain.bst

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread Jürgen Spitzmüller
lamikr wrote:
> White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
>  : \citation{Embedded
>  :                    Systems Architecture}
> I'm skipping whatever remains of this command

As the error message states: you are using invalid white space in the argument 
of the citation entry. Change the bibliography key from "Embedded Systems 
Architecture" to "EmbeddedSystemsArchitecture", and you're done (I'm actually 
surprised that kbibtex lets you create such a key; pybliographer here 
complains that it is invalid; I'd suggest to write a big report to the 
kbibtex author).

Jürgen


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-12-27 Thread lamikr
Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> lamikr wrote:
>   
>> White space in argument---line 4 of file test2.aux
>>  : \citation{Embedded
>>  :Systems Architecture}
>> I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
>> 
>
> As the error message states: you are using invalid white space in the 
> argument 
> of the citation entry. Change the bibliography key from "Embedded Systems 
> Architecture" to "EmbeddedSystemsArchitecture", and you're done (I'm actually 
> surprised that kbibtex lets you create such a key; pybliographer here 
> complains that it is invalid; I'd suggest to write a big report to the 
> kbibtex author).
>   
That was it, thank you very much. Actually I need to fill a bug both to
the gbib and kbibtex as both of them allowed me to make the same mistake.
Would there be any changes that Lyx could catch errors like these and
give some kind of warning in a situations like this?

Mika


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Alex Casti wrote:

Hello.  I'm running the Linux version 1.4.3 on Fedora
5 (64 bit).  I'm having trouble with the usual tried
and true method of inserting references with BibTex. 
My addition of citations seems to work fine when I

look at the lyx file itself, but the output to DVI or
PDF just gives [?] for the citations, and the
References section is blank.

Here's what I did...

At the end of my document I did this:

Insert -- List/TOC -- BibTex bibliography

I added a .bib file to the Database (specifying the
full path), I chose the plain style, and clicked the
Add bibliography to TOC box.

For the Bibliography document setting I'm using the
Natbib citation style.

Here are some of the error messages that appear when I
try to look at the DVI output.  It seems to complain
that it can't find or open database files, yet I
can still add citations within the lyx environment as
if everything is fine.  That is, it seems that lyx
itself recognizes the .bib file just fine.  What's
going on?

-
ERROR MESSAGES (some of them)
-
I couldn't open database file
0_home_latex_bibfiles__refs_BibEdit_2.bib
---line 20 of file my_lyx_file.aux
\bibdata{0_home_arc_latex_bibfiles_neurosci_refs_BibEdit_2}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
--

NOTE:  The bibdata path looks funny to me.  What's
with the leading zero?  Is this the source of the
problem?  



Not likely.  LyX deliberately mangles path names to prevent spaces in 
paths (on Windoze) from breaking things.  There may be other reasons as 
well for the mangling, but that's the one I know.  The leading digit in 
the file name has something to do, I think, with having multiple 
documents open (or multiple parts of a document).  I'm a bit fuzzy 
there, but I've seen leading digits on my files with no harm done.


If you open the document in LyX, try to view it, and then (without 
closing LyX) peek into the LyX temp directory, is 
0_home_latex_bibfiles__refs_BibEdit_2.bib there?  What about 
0_home_arc_latex_bibfiles_neurosci_refs_BibEdit_2.bib?  (Am I right that 
you have listed two different bibliography files in your document?)


My initial guess would be that LyX failed to copy one or both 
bibliography files over to the temp directory.  I think that the symptom 
in the DVI file (? where you expect a reference) can occur if the bib 
files contain indigestible references (a misplaced brace or something), 
but the couldn't open error sounds more like a missing file (or one 
with a permissions problem).


/Paul



Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Bo Peng

Insert -- List/TOC -- BibTex bibliography

I added a .bib file to the Database (specifying the
full path), I chose the plain style, and clicked the
Add bibliography to TOC box.

For the Bibliography document setting I'm using the
Natbib citation style.


plain style may not work with natbib citation style. Choose plainnat
and try again.

Bo


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Alex Casti
--- Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For the Bibliography document setting I'm using
 the
  Natbib citation style.
 
 plain style may not work with natbib citation style.
 Choose plainnat
 and try again.


Thanks Bo.  I managed to do my own fix before trying
out your suggestion, so I don't know if what you
suggest would've done the trick.  But, after a
reinstallation I did try using the plain style with
natbib and it worked fine (this was after I fixed the
problem; see below).  For the interested, I was also
having this exact same bibtex woes using the apalike
style.  

My fix was of the hammering eggshells variety.  Since
I'm running 64-bit Fedora 5, I decided to wipe out
every lyx related package and reinstall using the
32-bit versions.  Specifically, the packages I removed
and installed are:

REMOVED (64-bit fedora core 5 versions)
lyx
lyx-qt
lyx-debuginfo
mathml-fonts
aspell
aspell-en

INSTALLED (32-bit fedora core 5 versions)
lyx-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
lyx-qt-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
qt-3.3.6-0.4.fc5.i386.rpm
lyx-debuginfo-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
mathml-fonts-1.0-21.fc5.noarch.rpm
aiksaurus-1.2.1-13.i386.rpm
aspell-0.60.3-5.i386.rpm


After the smoke cleared, my bibtex problem
disappeared.  Voila.  It's conceivable, I guess, that
wiping out the 64-bit versions and reinstalling them
might've had the same effect.  I just don't know. 
Maybe it's a glitch in one of the packages of the
Fedora repositories.

Also, Richard Heck suggested the following (which did
not cure the bibtex problem, unfortunately).  I
mention it here for future browsers:

---
 LyX copies your .bib files into its temporary
 directory when it compiles
 the LaTeX, and in doing so it re-writes the names of
 the files. So this
 is normal. The problem appears to be that LyX isn't
 finding the .bib
 file and so isn't copying it into the temporary
 directory and so you're
 getting this error message. Check the path
 information and, if
 necessary, check the permissions on the .bib file
 and, for that matter,
 the temporary directory LyX is creating.
 
 Richard
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Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Alex Casti wrote:

Hello.  I'm running the Linux version 1.4.3 on Fedora
5 (64 bit).  I'm having trouble with the usual tried
and true method of inserting references with BibTex. 
My addition of citations seems to work fine when I

look at the lyx file itself, but the output to DVI or
PDF just gives [?] for the citations, and the
References section is blank.

Here's what I did...

At the end of my document I did this:

Insert -- List/TOC -- BibTex bibliography

I added a .bib file to the Database (specifying the
full path), I chose the plain style, and clicked the
Add bibliography to TOC box.

For the Bibliography document setting I'm using the
Natbib citation style.

Here are some of the error messages that appear when I
try to look at the DVI output.  It seems to complain
that it can't find or open database files, yet I
can still add citations within the lyx environment as
if everything is fine.  That is, it seems that lyx
itself recognizes the .bib file just fine.  What's
going on?

-
ERROR MESSAGES (some of them)
-
I couldn't open database file
0_home_latex_bibfiles__refs_BibEdit_2.bib
---line 20 of file my_lyx_file.aux
\bibdata{0_home_arc_latex_bibfiles_neurosci_refs_BibEdit_2}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
--

NOTE:  The bibdata path looks funny to me.  What's
with the leading zero?  Is this the source of the
problem?  



Not likely.  LyX deliberately mangles path names to prevent spaces in 
paths (on Windoze) from breaking things.  There may be other reasons as 
well for the mangling, but that's the one I know.  The leading digit in 
the file name has something to do, I think, with having multiple 
documents open (or multiple parts of a document).  I'm a bit fuzzy 
there, but I've seen leading digits on my files with no harm done.


If you open the document in LyX, try to view it, and then (without 
closing LyX) peek into the LyX temp directory, is 
0_home_latex_bibfiles__refs_BibEdit_2.bib there?  What about 
0_home_arc_latex_bibfiles_neurosci_refs_BibEdit_2.bib?  (Am I right that 
you have listed two different bibliography files in your document?)


My initial guess would be that LyX failed to copy one or both 
bibliography files over to the temp directory.  I think that the symptom 
in the DVI file (? where you expect a reference) can occur if the bib 
files contain indigestible references (a misplaced brace or something), 
but the couldn't open error sounds more like a missing file (or one 
with a permissions problem).


/Paul



Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Bo Peng

Insert -- List/TOC -- BibTex bibliography

I added a .bib file to the Database (specifying the
full path), I chose the plain style, and clicked the
Add bibliography to TOC box.

For the Bibliography document setting I'm using the
Natbib citation style.


plain style may not work with natbib citation style. Choose plainnat
and try again.

Bo


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Alex Casti
--- Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For the Bibliography document setting I'm using
 the
  Natbib citation style.
 
 plain style may not work with natbib citation style.
 Choose plainnat
 and try again.


Thanks Bo.  I managed to do my own fix before trying
out your suggestion, so I don't know if what you
suggest would've done the trick.  But, after a
reinstallation I did try using the plain style with
natbib and it worked fine (this was after I fixed the
problem; see below).  For the interested, I was also
having this exact same bibtex woes using the apalike
style.  

My fix was of the hammering eggshells variety.  Since
I'm running 64-bit Fedora 5, I decided to wipe out
every lyx related package and reinstall using the
32-bit versions.  Specifically, the packages I removed
and installed are:

REMOVED (64-bit fedora core 5 versions)
lyx
lyx-qt
lyx-debuginfo
mathml-fonts
aspell
aspell-en

INSTALLED (32-bit fedora core 5 versions)
lyx-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
lyx-qt-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
qt-3.3.6-0.4.fc5.i386.rpm
lyx-debuginfo-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
mathml-fonts-1.0-21.fc5.noarch.rpm
aiksaurus-1.2.1-13.i386.rpm
aspell-0.60.3-5.i386.rpm


After the smoke cleared, my bibtex problem
disappeared.  Voila.  It's conceivable, I guess, that
wiping out the 64-bit versions and reinstalling them
might've had the same effect.  I just don't know. 
Maybe it's a glitch in one of the packages of the
Fedora repositories.

Also, Richard Heck suggested the following (which did
not cure the bibtex problem, unfortunately).  I
mention it here for future browsers:

---
 LyX copies your .bib files into its temporary
 directory when it compiles
 the LaTeX, and in doing so it re-writes the names of
 the files. So this
 is normal. The problem appears to be that LyX isn't
 finding the .bib
 file and so isn't copying it into the temporary
 directory and so you're
 getting this error message. Check the path
 information and, if
 necessary, check the permissions on the .bib file
 and, for that matter,
 the temporary directory LyX is creating.
 
 Richard
---





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Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Paul A. Rubin

Alex Casti wrote:

Hello.  I'm running the Linux version 1.4.3 on Fedora
5 (64 bit).  I'm having trouble with the usual tried
and true method of inserting references with BibTex. 
My addition of citations seems to work fine when I

look at the lyx file itself, but the output to DVI or
PDF just gives [?] for the citations, and the
References section is blank.

Here's what I did...

At the end of my document I did this:

Insert --> List/TOC --> BibTex bibliography

I added a .bib file to the Database (specifying the
full path), I chose the "plain" style, and clicked the
"Add bibliography to TOC" box.

For the Bibliography document setting I'm using the
"Natbib" citation style.

Here are some of the error messages that appear when I
try to look at the DVI output.  It seems to complain
that it can't "find" or "open" database files, yet I
can still add citations within the lyx environment as
if everything is fine.  That is, it seems that lyx
itself recognizes the .bib file just fine.  What's
going on?

-
ERROR MESSAGES (some of them)
-
I couldn't open database file
0_home_latex_bibfiles__refs_BibEdit_2.bib
---line 20 of file my_lyx_file.aux
\bibdata{0_home_arc_latex_bibfiles_neurosci_refs_BibEdit_2}
I'm skipping whatever remains of this command
--

NOTE:  The "bibdata" path looks funny to me.  What's
with the leading zero?  Is this the source of the
problem?  



Not likely.  LyX deliberately mangles path names to prevent spaces in 
paths (on Windoze) from breaking things.  There may be other reasons as 
well for the mangling, but that's the one I know.  The leading digit in 
the file name has something to do, I think, with having multiple 
documents open (or multiple parts of a document).  I'm a bit fuzzy 
there, but I've seen leading digits on my files with no harm done.


If you open the document in LyX, try to view it, and then (without 
closing LyX) peek into the LyX temp directory, is 
0_home_latex_bibfiles__refs_BibEdit_2.bib there?  What about 
0_home_arc_latex_bibfiles_neurosci_refs_BibEdit_2.bib?  (Am I right that 
you have listed two different bibliography files in your document?)


My initial guess would be that LyX failed to copy one or both 
bibliography files over to the temp directory.  I think that the symptom 
in the DVI file ("?" where you expect a reference) can occur if the bib 
files contain indigestible references (a misplaced brace or something), 
but the "couldn't open" error sounds more like a missing file (or one 
with a permissions problem).


/Paul



Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Bo Peng

Insert --> List/TOC --> BibTex bibliography

I added a .bib file to the Database (specifying the
full path), I chose the "plain" style, and clicked the
"Add bibliography to TOC" box.

For the Bibliography document setting I'm using the
"Natbib" citation style.


plain style may not work with natbib citation style. Choose plainnat
and try again.

Bo


Re: BibTex problem with Lyx 1.4.3

2006-10-22 Thread Alex Casti
--- Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > For the Bibliography document setting I'm using
> the
> > "Natbib" citation style.
> 
> plain style may not work with natbib citation style.
> Choose plainnat
> and try again.


Thanks Bo.  I managed to do my own fix before trying
out your suggestion, so I don't know if what you
suggest would've done the trick.  But, after a
reinstallation I did try using the "plain" style with
natbib and it worked fine (this was after I fixed the
problem; see below).  For the interested, I was also
having this exact same bibtex woes using the "apalike"
style.  

My fix was of the hammering eggshells variety.  Since
I'm running 64-bit Fedora 5, I decided to wipe out
every lyx related package and reinstall using the
32-bit versions.  Specifically, the packages I removed
and installed are:

REMOVED (64-bit fedora core 5 versions)
lyx
lyx-qt
lyx-debuginfo
mathml-fonts
aspell
aspell-en

INSTALLED (32-bit fedora core 5 versions)
lyx-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
lyx-qt-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
qt-3.3.6-0.4.fc5.i386.rpm
lyx-debuginfo-1.4.3-3.fc5.i386.rpm
mathml-fonts-1.0-21.fc5.noarch.rpm
aiksaurus-1.2.1-13.i386.rpm
aspell-0.60.3-5.i386.rpm


After the smoke cleared, my bibtex problem
disappeared.  Voila.  It's conceivable, I guess, that
wiping out the 64-bit versions and reinstalling them
might've had the same effect.  I just don't know. 
Maybe it's a glitch in one of the packages of the
Fedora repositories.

Also, Richard Heck suggested the following (which did
not cure the bibtex problem, unfortunately).  I
mention it here for future browsers:

---
> LyX copies your .bib files into its temporary
> directory when it compiles
> the LaTeX, and in doing so it re-writes the names of
> the files. So this
> is normal. The problem appears to be that LyX isn't
> finding the .bib
> file and so isn't copying it into the temporary
> directory and so you're
> getting this error message. Check the path
> information and, if
> necessary, check the permissions on the .bib file
> and, for that matter,
> the temporary directory LyX is creating.
> 
> Richard
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Re: Bibtex Problem

2004-10-25 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Martin Pischler wrote:
Hello folks!
I have a little Problem with my bibligraphy (using bibtex with Jabref).
I am using Lyx 1.3.3 for Windows and would like to include my 
bibligraphy as ususal, but since I have upgraded form 1.3.2 it´s not 
working anymore.
The log file says that the bibtex command could not be found but I 
know it is in the Miktex folder as usual.
Do I have to set a path anywhere in the Lyx frontend?
No, you do not have to set anything manually.
If it is a problem like that, could anybody tell me where to set it?
Or could it be another problem?
You should probably verify first that it still works and is on your 
command path (by running bibtex --version in a command window).  Then 
have a look at the setup notes for Windows at 
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/Windows.  The native port has some 
known problems with helper utilities that can cause the installation 
scripts to backfire.  Does Help - LaTeX configuration correctly find 
installed packages?

-- Paul
**
Paul A. RubinPhone: 
   (517) 432-3509
Department of ManagementFax:  (517) 
432-
The Eli Broad Graduate School of ManagementE-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michigan State University 
http://www.msu.edu/~rubin/
East Lansing, MI  48824-1122  (USA)
**
Mathematicians are like Frenchmen:  whenever you say something to them,
they translate it into their own language, and at once it is something
entirely different.J. W. v. GOETHE



Re: Bibtex Problem

2004-10-25 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Martin Pischler wrote:
Hello folks!
I have a little Problem with my bibligraphy (using bibtex with Jabref).
I am using Lyx 1.3.3 for Windows and would like to include my 
bibligraphy as ususal, but since I have upgraded form 1.3.2 it´s not 
working anymore.
The log file says that the bibtex command could not be found but I 
know it is in the Miktex folder as usual.
Do I have to set a path anywhere in the Lyx frontend?
No, you do not have to set anything manually.
If it is a problem like that, could anybody tell me where to set it?
Or could it be another problem?
You should probably verify first that it still works and is on your 
command path (by running bibtex --version in a command window).  Then 
have a look at the setup notes for Windows at 
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/Windows.  The native port has some 
known problems with helper utilities that can cause the installation 
scripts to backfire.  Does Help - LaTeX configuration correctly find 
installed packages?

-- Paul
**
Paul A. RubinPhone: 
   (517) 432-3509
Department of ManagementFax:  (517) 
432-
The Eli Broad Graduate School of ManagementE-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michigan State University 
http://www.msu.edu/~rubin/
East Lansing, MI  48824-1122  (USA)
**
Mathematicians are like Frenchmen:  whenever you say something to them,
they translate it into their own language, and at once it is something
entirely different.J. W. v. GOETHE



Re: Bibtex Problem

2004-10-25 Thread Paul A. Rubin
Martin Pischler wrote:
Hello folks!
I have a little Problem with my bibligraphy (using bibtex with Jabref).
I am using Lyx 1.3.3 for Windows and would like to include my 
bibligraphy as ususal, but since I have upgraded form 1.3.2 it´s not 
working anymore.
The log file says that the "bibtex" command could not be found but I 
know it is in the Miktex folder as usual.
Do I have to set a path anywhere in the Lyx frontend?
No, you do not have to set anything manually.
If it is a problem like that, could anybody tell me where to set it?
Or could it be another problem?
You should probably verify first that it still works and is on your 
command path (by running bibtex --version in a command window).  Then 
have a look at the setup notes for Windows at 
http://wiki.lyx.org/pmwiki.php/LyX/Windows.  The native port has some 
known problems with helper utilities that can cause the installation 
scripts to backfire.  Does Help -> LaTeX configuration correctly find 
installed packages?

-- Paul
**
Paul A. RubinPhone: 
   (517) 432-3509
Department of ManagementFax:  (517) 
432-
The Eli Broad Graduate School of ManagementE-mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Michigan State University 
http://www.msu.edu/~rubin/
East Lansing, MI  48824-1122  (USA)
**
Mathematicians are like Frenchmen:  whenever you say something to them,
they translate it into their own language, and at once it is something
entirely different.J. W. v. GOETHE



Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-10 Thread Ragnar Beer

  Howdy!

  I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
  When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
  before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
  that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
  that I can correct myself easily?

As far as I know, the '' should be preceded by a comma, so this is not a bug!

I looked it up and you're right. So this is a problem only when I want to use
this style for a german article. I hope I can fix it.

Ragnar



Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-10 Thread Ragnar Beer

Thanks a lot! looking at format.names I got the idea that the colon 
could simply
be defined in a variable that I didn't see before and I was right. So a
\renewcommand{\BCBL}{} in the preamble did the trick.

Ragnar

Ragnar Beer wrote:

  I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
  When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
  before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
  that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
  that I can correct myself easily?

yes, you can, but it's not easy. have a look at
the apacite.bst. there is a function format.names.

otherwise write to tex users list
comp.text.tex

Herbert

--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-10 Thread Ragnar Beer

  Howdy!

  I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
  When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
  before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
  that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
  that I can correct myself easily?

As far as I know, the '' should be preceded by a comma, so this is not a bug!

I looked it up and you're right. So this is a problem only when I want to use
this style for a german article. I hope I can fix it.

Ragnar



Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-10 Thread Ragnar Beer

Thanks a lot! looking at format.names I got the idea that the colon 
could simply
be defined in a variable that I didn't see before and I was right. So a
\renewcommand{\BCBL}{} in the preamble did the trick.

Ragnar

Ragnar Beer wrote:

  I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
  When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
  before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
  that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
  that I can correct myself easily?

yes, you can, but it's not easy. have a look at
the apacite.bst. there is a function format.names.

otherwise write to tex users list
comp.text.tex

Herbert

--
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-10 Thread Ragnar Beer

>>  Howdy!
>>
>>  I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
>>  When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
>>  before the '&', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann, & Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
>>  that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
>>  that I can correct myself easily?
>
>As far as I know, the '&' should be preceded by a comma, so this is not a bug!

I looked it up and you're right. So this is a problem only when I want to use
this style for a german article. I hope I can fix it.

Ragnar



Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-10 Thread Ragnar Beer

Thanks a lot! looking at format.names I got the idea that the colon 
could simply
be defined in a variable that I didn't see before and I was right. So a
\renewcommand{\BCBL}{} in the preamble did the trick.

Ragnar

>Ragnar Beer wrote:
>>
>>  I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
>>  When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
>>  before the '&', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann, & Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
>>  that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
>>  that I can correct myself easily?
>
>yes, you can, but it's not easy. have a look at
>the apacite.bst. there is a function format.names.
>
>otherwise write to tex users list
>comp.text.tex
>
>Herbert
>
>--
>http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss

Ragnar Beer wrote:
 
 I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
 When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
 before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
 that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
 that I can correct myself easily?

yes, you can, but it's not easy. have a look at
the apacite.bst. there is a function format.names.

otherwise write to tex users list
comp.text.tex

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-08 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 10:12:15AM +0200, Ragnar Beer wrote:
 Howdy!
 
 I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
 When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
 before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
 that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
 that I can correct myself easily?

As far as I know, the '' should be preceded by a comma, so this is not a bug!



Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss

Ragnar Beer wrote:
 
 I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
 When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
 before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
 that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
 that I can correct myself easily?

yes, you can, but it's not easy. have a look at
the apacite.bst. there is a function format.names.

otherwise write to tex users list
comp.text.tex

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-08 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 10:12:15AM +0200, Ragnar Beer wrote:
 Howdy!
 
 I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
 When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
 before the '', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann,  Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
 that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
 that I can correct myself easily?

As far as I know, the '' should be preceded by a comma, so this is not a bug!



Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-08 Thread Herbert Voss

Ragnar Beer wrote:
> 
> I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
> When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
> before the '&', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann, & Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
> that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
> that I can correct myself easily?

yes, you can, but it's not easy. have a look at
the apacite.bst. there is a function format.names.

otherwise write to tex users list
comp.text.tex

Herbert

-- 
http://www.educat.hu-berlin.de/~voss/lyx/




Re: Bibtex problem

2001-06-08 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Fri, Jun 08, 2001 at 10:12:15AM +0200, Ragnar Beer wrote:
> Howdy!
> 
> I downloaded the apacite style fron CTAN and found a small but nasty buglet:
> When there are a couple of authors there is a colon too much in the citation
> before the '&', e.g. (Hahlweg, Klann, & Hank, 1992). Unfortunately the email
> that the authour gives in the manual isn't valid anymore . Is this something
> that I can correct myself easily?

As far as I know, the '&' should be preceded by a comma, so this is not a bug!



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-28 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:55:14PM +0100, Guido Milanese wrote:
 I think I am doing a stupid error in my bibtex files.
 I cannot use crossref. Both from within Lyx and from running direct 
 LaTeX, the "missing" fields are not added -- regardless the style I use.
 I followed the instructions given in the standard manuals regarding 
 order of entries.
 
 Example (partially faked):
 
 @InBook{Ludwig:Musik,
   Author = {Ludwig, Friedrich},
   Title  = {Die geistliche nichtliturgische {M}usik},
   Pages  = {157-295},
   crossref   = {Adler:Handbuch}, 
 }

I think that you need to use @InCollection instead of @InBook.



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-28 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:55:14PM +0100, Guido Milanese wrote:
 I think I am doing a stupid error in my bibtex files.
 I cannot use crossref. Both from within Lyx and from running direct 
 LaTeX, the "missing" fields are not added -- regardless the style I use.
 I followed the instructions given in the standard manuals regarding 
 order of entries.
 
 Example (partially faked):
 
 @InBook{Ludwig:Musik,
   Author = {Ludwig, Friedrich},
   Title  = {Die geistliche nichtliturgische {M}usik},
   Pages  = {157-295},
   crossref   = {Adler:Handbuch}, 
 }

I think that you need to use @InCollection instead of @InBook.



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-28 Thread Dekel Tsur

On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 10:55:14PM +0100, Guido Milanese wrote:
> I think I am doing a stupid error in my bibtex files.
> I cannot use crossref. Both from within Lyx and from running direct 
> LaTeX, the "missing" fields are not added -- regardless the style I use.
> I followed the instructions given in the standard manuals regarding 
> order of entries.
> 
> Example (partially faked):
> 
> @InBook{Ludwig:Musik,
>   Author = {Ludwig, Friedrich},
>   Title  = {Die geistliche nichtliturgische {M}usik},
>   Pages  = {157-295},
>   crossref   = {Adler:Handbuch}, 
> }

I think that you need to use @InCollection instead of @InBook.



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-26 Thread Christopher Jones

Just making sure-- the item you are crossrefing must appear -after- the
crossrefing entry in your database file. Thus: your @book must appear after your
@inbook. 


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 I think I am doing a stupid error in my bibtex files.
 I cannot use crossref. Both from within Lyx and from running direct 
 LaTeX, the "missing" fields are not added -- regardless the style I use.
 I followed the instructions given in the standard manuals regarding 
 order of entries.
 
 Example (partially faked):
 
 @InBook{Ludwig:Musik,
   Author = {Ludwig, Friedrich},
   Title  = {Die geistliche nichtliturgische {M}usik},
   Pages  = {157-295},
   crossref   = {Adler:Handbuch}, 
 }
 
 should be crossreferenced to:
 
 @Book{Adler:Handbuch,
   Author = {Adler, Guido},
   Title  = {Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte},
   Publisher  = {Keller},
   Address= {Berlin},
   Note   = {2 voll.},
   booktitle  = {Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte},  
   year   = 1930,
 }
 
 In the output, the booktitle (Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte) is 
 missing.
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Guido, Italy
 
 
 --
 E-Mail: Guido Milanese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italia
 Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
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Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-26 Thread Guido Milanese

Die ven, 26 gen 2001, Christopher Jones haec scripsit:
 Just making sure-- the item you are crossrefing must appear -after-
 the crossrefing entry in your database file. Thus: your @book must
 appear after your @inbook.

Yes, thanks. I checked it -- I followed the standard instructions. All 
the other fields, in fact, are correctly filled, but not the title.

thanks,
gm

--
E-Mail: Guido Milanese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italia
Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
+ + + + + + NON NOBIS DOMINE + + + + + + +
--



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-26 Thread Christopher Jones

Just making sure-- the item you are crossrefing must appear -after- the
crossrefing entry in your database file. Thus: your @book must appear after your
@inbook. 


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 I think I am doing a stupid error in my bibtex files.
 I cannot use crossref. Both from within Lyx and from running direct 
 LaTeX, the "missing" fields are not added -- regardless the style I use.
 I followed the instructions given in the standard manuals regarding 
 order of entries.
 
 Example (partially faked):
 
 @InBook{Ludwig:Musik,
   Author = {Ludwig, Friedrich},
   Title  = {Die geistliche nichtliturgische {M}usik},
   Pages  = {157-295},
   crossref   = {Adler:Handbuch}, 
 }
 
 should be crossreferenced to:
 
 @Book{Adler:Handbuch,
   Author = {Adler, Guido},
   Title  = {Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte},
   Publisher  = {Keller},
   Address= {Berlin},
   Note   = {2 voll.},
   booktitle  = {Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte},  
   year   = 1930,
 }
 
 In the output, the booktitle (Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte) is 
 missing.
 
 What am I doing wrong?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Guido, Italy
 
 
 --
 E-Mail: Guido Milanese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italia
 Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
 + + + + + + NON NOBIS DOMINE + + + + + + +
 --



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-26 Thread Guido Milanese

Die ven, 26 gen 2001, Christopher Jones haec scripsit:
 Just making sure-- the item you are crossrefing must appear -after-
 the crossrefing entry in your database file. Thus: your @book must
 appear after your @inbook.

Yes, thanks. I checked it -- I followed the standard instructions. All 
the other fields, in fact, are correctly filled, but not the title.

thanks,
gm

--
E-Mail: Guido Milanese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italia
Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
+ + + + + + NON NOBIS DOMINE + + + + + + +
--



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-26 Thread Christopher Jones

Just making sure-- the item you are crossrefing must appear -after- the
crossrefing entry in your database file. Thus: your @book must appear after your
@inbook. 


On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> I think I am doing a stupid error in my bibtex files.
> I cannot use crossref. Both from within Lyx and from running direct 
> LaTeX, the "missing" fields are not added -- regardless the style I use.
> I followed the instructions given in the standard manuals regarding 
> order of entries.
> 
> Example (partially faked):
> 
> @InBook{Ludwig:Musik,
>   Author = {Ludwig, Friedrich},
>   Title  = {Die geistliche nichtliturgische {M}usik},
>   Pages  = {157-295},
>   crossref   = {Adler:Handbuch}, 
> }
> 
> should be crossreferenced to:
> 
> @Book{Adler:Handbuch,
>   Author = {Adler, Guido},
>   Title  = {Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte},
>   Publisher  = {Keller},
>   Address= {Berlin},
>   Note   = {2 voll.},
>   booktitle  = {Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte},  
>   year   = 1930,
> }
> 
> In the output, the booktitle (Handbuch der {M}usikgeschichte) is 
> missing.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Guido, Italy
> 
> 
> --
> E-Mail: Guido Milanese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italia
> Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
> + + + + + + NON NOBIS DOMINE + + + + + + +
> --



Re: BibTeX problem

2001-01-26 Thread Guido Milanese

Die ven, 26 gen 2001, Christopher Jones haec scripsit:
> Just making sure-- the item you are crossrefing must appear -after-
> the crossrefing entry in your database file. Thus: your @book must
> appear after your @inbook.

Yes, thanks. I checked it -- I followed the standard instructions. All 
the other fields, in fact, are correctly filled, but not the title.

thanks,
gm

--
E-Mail: Guido Milanese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Vocal Ensemble Ars Antiqua, Genova, Italia
Homepage: http://www.arsantiqua.org
+ + + + + + NON NOBIS DOMINE + + + + + + +
--