Re: More space for document

[Pavel Sanda]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 05:29:34PM +0100, Pavel Sanda wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 04:19:54PM +, Paul Stansell wrote:
> > Pavel, your suggestion has helped a lot, thanks.   Interestingly, there is
> > no mention of the "-style" option in either "man lyx" or "lyx -help"
> 
> Well, yeah, it's Qt's commandline parameter, not LyX's per se, and there
> will be likely bunch of those. But maybe we can link from the man pages
> to the appropriate documentation...

I added a note about Qt parameters into man pages, will be part of 2.4.

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Re: More space for document

[John White]

I disagree.  I think we should do it tomorrow.

Dad

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:20:47 PM PST Paul Stansell wrote:
> > On 1/13/23 15:04, Stephen Buonopane wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
> > https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface
> > 
> > It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just
> > editing some text files.
> > 
> > Yes, that's right. It's all text files.
> > 
> > Short version: Copy the toolbars file from LYXLIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc to
> > HOMELIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc, then edit that file. Here, LYXLIB is your
> > 'system library' directory and USERLIB is the user library. Both of these
> > can be found from Help> About LyX. The local file will then be loaded
> > instead of the system file. The syntax should be relatively clear. Ask if
> > not. See Help> LyX Functions for all the different functions you can
> > assign
> > to buttons, etc.
> > 
> > You can both modify the standard toolbars this way and create new
> > toolbars. You can also do this with menus (stdmenus.inc) and context menus
> > (stdcontext.inc).
> > 
> > Riki
> 
> Riki,
> 
> Just to say that I finally got around to creating a custom toolbar.  I was
> very straightforward.  Thanks for explaining it.
> 
> Paul

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Re: More space for document

[John White]

Please ignore my "I disagree" email. It was copied to you by mistake.

John

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 6:14:30 PM PST John White wrote:
> I disagree.  I think we should do it tomorrow.
> 
> Dad
> 
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 4:20:47 PM PST Paul Stansell wrote:
> > > On 1/13/23 15:04, Stephen Buonopane wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
> > > https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface
> > > 
> > > It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just
> > > editing some text files.
> > > 
> > > Yes, that's right. It's all text files.
> > > 
> > > Short version: Copy the toolbars file from LYXLIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc to
> > > HOMELIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc, then edit that file. Here, LYXLIB is your
> > > 'system library' directory and USERLIB is the user library. Both of
> > > these
> > > can be found from Help> About LyX. The local file will then be loaded
> > > instead of the system file. The syntax should be relatively clear. Ask
> > > if
> > > not. See Help> LyX Functions for all the different functions you can
> > > assign
> > > to buttons, etc.
> > > 
> > > You can both modify the standard toolbars this way and create new
> > > toolbars. You can also do this with menus (stdmenus.inc) and context
> > > menus
> > > (stdcontext.inc).
> > > 
> > > Riki
> > 
> > Riki,
> > 
> > Just to say that I finally got around to creating a custom toolbar.  I was
> > very straightforward.  Thanks for explaining it.
> > 
> > Paul

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Re: More space for document

[Paul Stansell]

> On 1/13/23 15:04, Stephen Buonopane wrote:
>
> Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
> https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface
>
> It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just
> editing some text files.
>
> Yes, that's right. It's all text files.
>
> Short version: Copy the toolbars file from LYXLIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc to
> HOMELIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc, then edit that file. Here, LYXLIB is your
> 'system library' directory and USERLIB is the user library. Both of these
> can be found from Help> About LyX. The local file will then be loaded
> instead of the system file. The syntax should be relatively clear. Ask if
> not. See Help> LyX Functions for all the different functions you can assign
> to buttons, etc.
>
> You can both modify the standard toolbars this way and create new
> toolbars. You can also do this with menus (stdmenus.inc) and context menus
> (stdcontext.inc).
>
> Riki
>

Riki,

Just to say that I finally got around to creating a custom toolbar.  I was
very straightforward.  Thanks for explaining it.

Paul
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Re: More space for document

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 1/13/23 15:04, Stephen Buonopane wrote:



On Jan 13, 2023, at 2:54 PM, Paul Stansell  
wrote:



On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 18:44, Richard Kimberly Heck 
 wrote:


FYI, Paul, there's also a full screen mode in LyX (which I think
Pavel
implemented), if you really want more space.


I didn't know about that either (I'm learning so much from the 
answers to my simple question).  It would be nice is to be able to 
fully customise the toolbars, then I could add just the icons I use 
regularly, which would easily fit in a single row.


Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface

It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just 
editing some text files.


Yes, that's right. It's all text files.

Short version: Copy the toolbars file from LYXLIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc to 
HOMELIB/ui/stdtoolbars.inc, then edit that file. Here, LYXLIB is your 
'system library' directory and USERLIB is the user library. Both of 
these can be found from Help> About LyX. The local file will then be 
loaded instead of the system file. The syntax should be relatively 
clear. Ask if not. See Help> LyX Functions for all the different 
functions you can assign to buttons, etc.


You can both modify the standard toolbars this way and create new 
toolbars. You can also do this with menus (stdmenus.inc) and context 
menus (stdcontext.inc).


Riki

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Re: More space for document

[Stephen Buonopane]

> On Jan 13, 2023, at 2:54 PM, Paul Stansell  wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 18:44, Richard Kimberly Heck  > wrote:
> 
> FYI, Paul, there's also a full screen mode in LyX (which I think Pavel 
> implemented), if you really want more space.
> 
> I didn't know about that either (I'm learning so much from the answers to my 
> simple question).  It would be nice is to be able to fully customise the 
> toolbars, then I could add just the icons I use regularly, which would easily 
> fit in a single row. 

Yes, you can fully customize the toolbars
https://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserInterface 

It’s been a long time since I have done it, but I recall it was just editing 
some text files.
I have even made my own toolbar icons for functions that I use a lot, but that 
were not included in the default set.

Good luck,
Steve

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Re: More space for document

[Paul Stansell]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 18:44, Richard Kimberly Heck 
wrote:

FYI, Paul, there's also a full screen mode in LyX (which I think Pavel
> implemented), if you really want more space.
>

I didn't know about that either (I'm learning so much from the answers to
my simple question).  It would be nice is to be able to fully customise the
toolbars, then I could add just the icons I use regularly, which would
easily fit in a single row.
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Re: More space for document

[Richard Kimberly Heck]

On 1/13/23 11:29, Pavel Sanda wrote:

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 04:19:54PM +, Paul Stansell wrote:

Pavel, your suggestion has helped a lot, thanks.   Interestingly, there is
no mention of the "-style" option in either "man lyx" or "lyx -help"

Well, yeah, it's Qt's commandline parameter, not LyX's per se, and there
will be likely bunch of those. But maybe we can link from the man pages
to the appropriate documentation...


FYI, Paul, there's also a full screen mode in LyX (which I think Pavel 
implemented), if you really want more space.


Riki


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Re: More space for document

[Pavel Sanda]

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 04:19:54PM +, Paul Stansell wrote:
> Pavel, your suggestion has helped a lot, thanks.   Interestingly, there is
> no mention of the "-style" option in either "man lyx" or "lyx -help"

Well, yeah, it's Qt's commandline parameter, not LyX's per se, and there
will be likely bunch of those. But maybe we can link from the man pages
to the appropriate documentation...
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Re: More space for document

[Paul Stansell]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 at 15:47, Pavel Sanda  wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 07:47:49PM +, Paul Stansell wrote:
> > Thanks for that info.  After a little reading, I can't find a simple way
> to
> > slightly edit the theme I'm using.
>
> One way how to select the theme you want is to use commandline parameter
> -style, e.g:
> $ lyx -style=Fusion
>
> The problem might be that ubuntu installs only limited set of styles
> (I see only Fusion and Windows styles on Debian).
> But maybe windows style might serve your purposes well.
>
> Pavel
>

Pavel, your suggestion has helped a lot, thanks.   Interestingly, there is
no mention of the "-style" option in either "man lyx" or "lyx -help"
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Re: More space for document

[Pavel Sanda]

On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 07:47:49PM +, Paul Stansell wrote:
> Thanks for that info.  After a little reading, I can't find a simple way to
> slightly edit the theme I'm using.  

One way how to select the theme you want is to use commandline parameter 
-style, e.g:
$ lyx -style=Fusion

The problem might be that ubuntu installs only limited set of styles 
(I see only Fusion and Windows styles on Debian). 
But maybe windows style might serve your purposes well.

Pavel
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Re: More space for document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 11/01/2023 à 20:47, Paul Stansell a écrit :
Thanks for that info.  After a little reading, I can't find a simple way 
to slightly edit the theme I'm using.  There are a number of theme and 
style configurations available in the KDE settings, but none seem to do 
what I want.  I'm not sure if it's relevant, but I have Brave browser 
installed using QT on both systems and the toolbars are the same (unlike 
on the LyX installations).


What about the file manager, for example?

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Re: More space for document

[Paul Stansell]

>
> Hello,
>
> I suspect that the difference is the theme that Ubuntu and CentOS7 use.
> Normally, Qt (and thus LyX) respect this.
>
> JMarc
>

Thanks for that info.  After a little reading, I can't find a simple way to
slightly edit the theme I'm using.  There are a number of theme and
style configurations available in the KDE settings, but none seem to do
what I want.  I'm not sure if it's relevant, but I have Brave browser
installed using QT on both systems and the toolbars are the same (unlike on
the LyX installations).
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Re: More space for document

[Jean-Marc Lasgouttes]

Le 11/01/2023 à 16:52, Paul Stansell a écrit :

Hello,

I'm moving from using LyX 2.2.3 on CentOS 7 to using LyX 2.3.6 on Ubuntu 
22.04.  I noticed that the new version gives more space to the toolbars 
at the top of the window.  Here are examples from both LyX versions 
(both for "normal sized icons").


The newer version takes about 50% more space than the older version.  Is 
there any way I can make the newer version more condensed so that it 
takes less space, while still showing the same toolbars?  (Changing the 
icon sizes to "small" makes minimal difference as the gaps between the 
icons stay the same size.)


Hello,

I suspect that the difference is the theme that Ubuntu and CentOS7 use. 
Normally, Qt (and thus LyX) respect this.


JMarc

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