Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Helge Hafting

Bonhôte, André wrote:


Hi!

I am completely new to this list, and even newer to LyX. I used to  
work with LaTeX some years ago, but now I find LyX easier to work with.


My goal is to create technical documentation in a consitent manner.  
We have some CI guidelines I will have to follow, like a bitmap on  
top and one on the bottom of each page. There, the questions begin:


 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the  
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal from?


You can definitely move outside the margins, although you may have to 
use some

latex commands to get there. You can use commands like
\hspace{2cm} or \hspace{-3mm} to go right and left, respectively. And you
can \vspace*{-3cm} to go up (or down) in similiar ways.

If you need to put a complicated layout outside the margins, use
hspace and vspace to get to the upper left corner, then place a box
(\makebox{} or similiar of desired size.  That way, you effectively get
new margins until the end of the box command.)

You don't always need hspace/vspace either, a box extends through the
right and lower margins if you make it big enough, and through the upper
if you use \raisebox.

 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I  
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to  
change it later easily to my *own* one?


Yes.  After creating your own layout (which is some work), changing into
it is easy.  Simply set the document layout to be your layout instead of
koma-script book.  To avoid transition problems, don't use any koma-script
paragraph type that you don't plan on supporting in your new layout.
(Such unsupported text will revert to standard when you switch.)

 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as  explained 
in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert  from Word to 
LyX?



I am not sure there is an easy way to convert tables.  Of course you can
load word docs into openoffice and save as latex, then try to get the
latex into lyx.  Sometimes it is ok, sometimes not.

I'd really like to use LyX from now on. I have already infected some  
of my collegues here, but it's easier to make active publicity when I  
have a nice company template to work with.


Good luck! :-)

Helge Hafting


Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bonhôte, André wrote:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the
 edge of the page?

Maybe this is of interest:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PaperLayout
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Tips/paperLayout/paperDistances.png

regards Uwe


Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Wed 23 Nov 2005 13:31:15 GMT, [Helge Hafting] wrote : \_


Bonhôte, André wrote:


Hi!

I am completely new to this list, and even newer to LyX. I used to
work with LaTeX some years ago, but now I find LyX easier to work
with.



It  is  easier and often quicker too, i.e. it gives you the  product  more
rapidly.The'entry   barrier'   is   also   lower,   whichmakes
LaTeX/DVI/PostScript/PDF accessible to a wider audience.



My goal is to create technical documentation in a consitent manner.
We have some CI guidelines I will have to follow, like a bitmap on
top and one on the bottom of each page. There, the questions begin:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal
from?


You can definitely move outside the margins, although you may have to
use some
latex commands to get there. You can use commands like
\hspace{2cm} or \hspace{-3mm} to go right and left, respectively. And you
can \vspace*{-3cm} to go up (or down) in similiar ways.



Additionally,  you can embed background image in all of your pages so that
templating with graphics becomes easily-doable. Contact me off-list if you
want an example LyX file.



If you need to put a complicated layout outside the margins, use
hspace and vspace to get to the upper left corner, then place a box
(\makebox{} or similiar of desired size.  That way, you effectively get
new margins until the end of the box command.)

You don't always need hspace/vspace either, a box extends through the
right and lower margins if you make it big enough, and through the upper
if you use \raisebox.


 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to
change it later easily to my *own* one?


Yes.  After creating your own layout (which is some work), changing into
it is easy.  Simply set the document layout to be your layout instead of
koma-script book.  To avoid transition problems, don't use any koma-script
paragraph type that you don't plan on supporting in your new layout.
(Such unsupported text will revert to standard when you switch.)



Be  sure to preserve as much of the semantic structure as you can.  Moving
from  one  layout to another (e.g. book to article) can result  in  'unas-
signed' elements of text.



 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as
explained in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert
from Word to LyX?


I am not sure there is an easy way to convert tables.  Of course you can
load word docs into openoffice and save as latex, then try to get the
latex into lyx.  Sometimes it is ok, sometimes not.



OpenOffice  is what I thought of as well. Its conversions are often fairly
powerful  tools.  If you find no Word/Writer-LaTeX route, try to find  an
intermediate  format  that  makes it possible to migrate tables  at  ease,
without lossiness.



I'd really like to use LyX from now on. I have already infected some
 of my collegues here, but it's easier to make active publicity when
I  have a nice company template to work with.


Good luck! :-)

Helge Hafting



You  need  only  get your favourite template/s working once. I  have  used
variants of the same LyX document for years. It always evolves, of course,
but  as  you accumulate more files, you accumulate more examples that  you
can  quickly pull 'of the sleeves', then re-use or hack. As time goes  on,
anything  you wish to do with LyX can be implemented trivially, even if it
involves  some  TeX, which you can merely copy and paste from  past  docu-
ments.

Lastly, read Helge's reply carefully as some valuable points have been raised.

Best wishes,

Roy

--
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http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
 3:25pm  up 20 days 11:19,  4 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.22, 0.32
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Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Bonhôte, André

Folks,

First, thanks all for your kind help. Here's my short resume:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the  
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal  
from?


Roy kindly provided a quick and convenient way of doing that.  
Keyword: Background picture. Works without a problem! Sorted!



 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I  
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to  
change it later easily to my *own* one?


The only problem left here is: How do I change the default face for  
the Standard paragraph style to something like Helvetica?



 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as  
explained in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert  
from Word to LyX?


As I am working on a Mac, it looks like copy/paste from Word into vim  
and read the file in is the best way of doing it.


Thanks a lot!

André

Application Support Analyst
COLT
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich/Switzerland
Tel:   +41 (0)44 560 06 00  Internal: 8411 0501
Fax:  +41 (0)44 563 05 01
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.colt.net
Data | Voice | Managed Services





Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Helge Hafting

Bonhôte, André wrote:


Hi!

I am completely new to this list, and even newer to LyX. I used to  
work with LaTeX some years ago, but now I find LyX easier to work with.


My goal is to create technical documentation in a consitent manner.  
We have some CI guidelines I will have to follow, like a bitmap on  
top and one on the bottom of each page. There, the questions begin:


 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the  
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal from?


You can definitely move outside the margins, although you may have to 
use some

latex commands to get there. You can use commands like
\hspace{2cm} or \hspace{-3mm} to go right and left, respectively. And you
can \vspace*{-3cm} to go up (or down) in similiar ways.

If you need to put a complicated layout outside the margins, use
hspace and vspace to get to the upper left corner, then place a box
(\makebox{} or similiar of desired size.  That way, you effectively get
new margins until the end of the box command.)

You don't always need hspace/vspace either, a box extends through the
right and lower margins if you make it big enough, and through the upper
if you use \raisebox.

 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I  
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to  
change it later easily to my *own* one?


Yes.  After creating your own layout (which is some work), changing into
it is easy.  Simply set the document layout to be your layout instead of
koma-script book.  To avoid transition problems, don't use any koma-script
paragraph type that you don't plan on supporting in your new layout.
(Such unsupported text will revert to standard when you switch.)

 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as  explained 
in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert  from Word to 
LyX?



I am not sure there is an easy way to convert tables.  Of course you can
load word docs into openoffice and save as latex, then try to get the
latex into lyx.  Sometimes it is ok, sometimes not.

I'd really like to use LyX from now on. I have already infected some  
of my collegues here, but it's easier to make active publicity when I  
have a nice company template to work with.


Good luck! :-)

Helge Hafting


Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bonhôte, André wrote:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the
 edge of the page?

Maybe this is of interest:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PaperLayout
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Tips/paperLayout/paperDistances.png

regards Uwe


Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Wed 23 Nov 2005 13:31:15 GMT, [Helge Hafting] wrote : \_


Bonhôte, André wrote:


Hi!

I am completely new to this list, and even newer to LyX. I used to
work with LaTeX some years ago, but now I find LyX easier to work
with.



It  is  easier and often quicker too, i.e. it gives you the  product  more
rapidly.The'entry   barrier'   is   also   lower,   whichmakes
LaTeX/DVI/PostScript/PDF accessible to a wider audience.



My goal is to create technical documentation in a consitent manner.
We have some CI guidelines I will have to follow, like a bitmap on
top and one on the bottom of each page. There, the questions begin:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal
from?


You can definitely move outside the margins, although you may have to
use some
latex commands to get there. You can use commands like
\hspace{2cm} or \hspace{-3mm} to go right and left, respectively. And you
can \vspace*{-3cm} to go up (or down) in similiar ways.



Additionally,  you can embed background image in all of your pages so that
templating with graphics becomes easily-doable. Contact me off-list if you
want an example LyX file.



If you need to put a complicated layout outside the margins, use
hspace and vspace to get to the upper left corner, then place a box
(\makebox{} or similiar of desired size.  That way, you effectively get
new margins until the end of the box command.)

You don't always need hspace/vspace either, a box extends through the
right and lower margins if you make it big enough, and through the upper
if you use \raisebox.


 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to
change it later easily to my *own* one?


Yes.  After creating your own layout (which is some work), changing into
it is easy.  Simply set the document layout to be your layout instead of
koma-script book.  To avoid transition problems, don't use any koma-script
paragraph type that you don't plan on supporting in your new layout.
(Such unsupported text will revert to standard when you switch.)



Be  sure to preserve as much of the semantic structure as you can.  Moving
from  one  layout to another (e.g. book to article) can result  in  'unas-
signed' elements of text.



 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as
explained in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert
from Word to LyX?


I am not sure there is an easy way to convert tables.  Of course you can
load word docs into openoffice and save as latex, then try to get the
latex into lyx.  Sometimes it is ok, sometimes not.



OpenOffice  is what I thought of as well. Its conversions are often fairly
powerful  tools.  If you find no Word/Writer-LaTeX route, try to find  an
intermediate  format  that  makes it possible to migrate tables  at  ease,
without lossiness.



I'd really like to use LyX from now on. I have already infected some
 of my collegues here, but it's easier to make active publicity when
I  have a nice company template to work with.


Good luck! :-)

Helge Hafting



You  need  only  get your favourite template/s working once. I  have  used
variants of the same LyX document for years. It always evolves, of course,
but  as  you accumulate more files, you accumulate more examples that  you
can  quickly pull 'of the sleeves', then re-use or hack. As time goes  on,
anything  you wish to do with LyX can be implemented trivially, even if it
involves  some  TeX, which you can merely copy and paste from  past  docu-
ments.

Lastly, read Helge's reply carefully as some valuable points have been raised.

Best wishes,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  |YaSTall SuSE to figure out the magic
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
 3:25pm  up 20 days 11:19,  4 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.22, 0.32
 http://iuron.com - next generation of search paradigms



Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Bonhôte, André

Folks,

First, thanks all for your kind help. Here's my short resume:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the  
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal  
from?


Roy kindly provided a quick and convenient way of doing that.  
Keyword: Background picture. Works without a problem! Sorted!



 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I  
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to  
change it later easily to my *own* one?


The only problem left here is: How do I change the default face for  
the Standard paragraph style to something like Helvetica?



 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as  
explained in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert  
from Word to LyX?


As I am working on a Mac, it looks like copy/paste from Word into vim  
and read the file in is the best way of doing it.


Thanks a lot!

André

Application Support Analyst
COLT
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich/Switzerland
Tel:   +41 (0)44 560 06 00  Internal: 8411 0501
Fax:  +41 (0)44 563 05 01
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.colt.net
Data | Voice | Managed Services





Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Helge Hafting

Bonhôte, André wrote:


Hi!

I am completely new to this list, and even newer to LyX. I used to  
work with LaTeX some years ago, but now I find LyX easier to work with.


My goal is to create technical documentation in a consitent manner.  
We have some CI guidelines I will have to follow, like a bitmap on  
top and one on the bottom of each page. There, the questions begin:


 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the  
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal from?


You can definitely move outside the margins, although you may have to 
use some

latex commands to get there. You can use commands like
\hspace{2cm} or \hspace{-3mm} to go right and left, respectively. And you
can \vspace*{-3cm} to go up (or down) in similiar ways.

If you need to put a complicated layout outside the margins, use
hspace and vspace to get to the upper left corner, then place a box
(\makebox{} or similiar of desired size.  That way, you effectively get
new margins until the end of the box command.)

You don't always need hspace/vspace either, a box extends through the
right and lower margins if you make it big enough, and through the upper
if you use \raisebox.

 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I  
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to  
change it later easily to my *own* one?


Yes.  After creating your own layout (which is some work), changing into
it is easy.  Simply set the document layout to be "your" layout instead of
koma-script book.  To avoid transition problems, don't use any koma-script
paragraph type that you don't plan on supporting in your new layout.
(Such unsupported text will revert to "standard" when you switch.)

 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as  explained 
in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert  from Word to 
LyX?



I am not sure there is an easy way to convert tables.  Of course you can
load word docs into openoffice and save as latex, then try to get the
latex into lyx.  Sometimes it is ok, sometimes not.

I'd really like to use LyX from now on. I have already infected some  
of my collegues here, but it's easier to make active publicity when I  
have a nice company template to work with.


Good luck! :-)

Helge Hafting


Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Uwe Stöhr

Bonhôte, André wrote:

> 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the
> edge of the page?

Maybe this is of interest:

http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/PaperLayout
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Tips/paperLayout/paperDistances.png

regards Uwe


Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Roy Schestowitz

_/ On Wed 23 Nov 2005 13:31:15 GMT, [Helge Hafting] wrote : \_


Bonhôte, André wrote:


Hi!

I am completely new to this list, and even newer to LyX. I used to
work with LaTeX some years ago, but now I find LyX easier to work
with.



It  is  easier and often quicker too, i.e. it gives you the  product  more
rapidly.The'entry   barrier'   is   also   lower,   whichmakes
LaTeX/DVI/PostScript/PDF accessible to a wider audience.



My goal is to create technical documentation in a consitent manner.
We have some CI guidelines I will have to follow, like a bitmap on
top and one on the bottom of each page. There, the questions begin:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal
from?


You can definitely move outside the margins, although you may have to
use some
latex commands to get there. You can use commands like
\hspace{2cm} or \hspace{-3mm} to go right and left, respectively. And you
can \vspace*{-3cm} to go up (or down) in similiar ways.



Additionally,  you can embed background image in all of your pages so that
templating with graphics becomes easily-doable. Contact me off-list if you
want an example LyX file.



If you need to put a complicated layout outside the margins, use
hspace and vspace to get to the upper left corner, then place a box
(\makebox{} or similiar of desired size.  That way, you effectively get
new margins until the end of the box command.)

You don't always need hspace/vspace either, a box extends through the
right and lower margins if you make it big enough, and through the upper
if you use \raisebox.


 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to
change it later easily to my *own* one?


Yes.  After creating your own layout (which is some work), changing into
it is easy.  Simply set the document layout to be "your" layout instead of
koma-script book.  To avoid transition problems, don't use any koma-script
paragraph type that you don't plan on supporting in your new layout.
(Such unsupported text will revert to "standard" when you switch.)



Be  sure to preserve as much of the semantic structure as you can.  Moving
from  one  layout to another (e.g. book to article) can result  in  'unas-
signed' elements of text.



 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as
explained in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert
from Word to LyX?


I am not sure there is an easy way to convert tables.  Of course you can
load word docs into openoffice and save as latex, then try to get the
latex into lyx.  Sometimes it is ok, sometimes not.



OpenOffice  is what I thought of as well. Its conversions are often fairly
powerful  tools.  If you find no Word/Writer->LaTeX route, try to find  an
intermediate  format  that  makes it possible to migrate tables  at  ease,
without lossiness.



I'd really like to use LyX from now on. I have already infected some
 of my collegues here, but it's easier to make active publicity when
I  have a nice company template to work with.


Good luck! :-)

Helge Hafting



You  need  only  get your favourite template/s working once. I  have  used
variants of the same LyX document for years. It always evolves, of course,
but  as  you accumulate more files, you accumulate more examples that  you
can  quickly pull 'of the sleeves', then re-use or hack. As time goes  on,
anything  you wish to do with LyX can be implemented trivially, even if it
involves  some  TeX, which you can merely copy and paste from  past  docu-
ments.

Lastly, read Helge's reply carefully as some valuable points have been raised.

Best wishes,

Roy

--
Roy S. Schestowitz  |YaSTall SuSE to figure out the magic
http://Schestowitz.com  |SuSE Linux | PGP-Key: 0x74572E8E
 3:25pm  up 20 days 11:19,  4 users,  load average: 0.27, 0.22, 0.32
 http://iuron.com - next generation of search paradigms



Re: Newbie here!

2005-11-23 Thread Bonhôte, André

Folks,

First, thanks all for your kind help. Here's my short resume:

 1 - Is it possible to add a header/footer which is really at the  
edge of the page? If yes, are there examples around I could steal  
from?


Roy kindly provided a quick and convenient way of doing that.  
Keyword: Background picture. Works without a problem! Sorted!



 2 - Currently I am copy/pasting stuff from old word docs to LyX. I  
am using the koma book document layout right now. Is it possible to  
change it later easily to my *own* one?


The only problem left here is: How do I change the default face for  
the "Standard" paragraph style to something like Helvetica?



 3 - copy/pasting of tables doesn't work here (Mac OS X) as  
explained in the wiki. What's the best overall strategy to convert  
from Word to LyX?


As I am working on a Mac, it looks like copy/paste from Word into vim  
and read the file in is the best way of doing it.


Thanks a lot!

André

Application Support Analyst
COLT
Mürtschenstrasse 27
CH-8048 Zürich/Switzerland
Tel:   +41 (0)44 560 06 00  Internal: 8411 0501
Fax:  +41 (0)44 563 05 01
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.colt.net
Data | Voice | Managed Services