Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-18 Thread William F. Adams
On Dec 16, 2004, at 10:05 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote:
Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
booklet and then staple bind it.
Yes. Best to set up a document layout at that size (use Memoir or the 
geometry package) though. Shrinking your output is a mug's game.

Are there any recommendations for someone trying to print a booklet in
Linux of such small dimensions?
Problems with using a laser:
 - durability of the print --- lasers aren't great on this score
 - duplexing --- this will ruin a cartridge if the printer isn't 
designed for it.

How many pages will this be? If it's not too many pages (and you don't 
mind some handwork) you could use a Chinese-Japanese-Korean 
stab-binding technique which would allow you to print on only one side 
of the paper and get two-sided pages.

If it's just eight pages you could do a ``stroke'' book if you can 
print to large enough paper --- see the TeX Showcase or my portfolio 
for a (small) example: http://www.tug.org/texshowcase or 
http://members.aol.com/willadams --- you want the ``One Typeface: many 
fonts'' booklet. I posted updated LaTeX source for this to the XeTeX 
mailing list recently.

Design / print at 100% to create a .pdf and if possible entrust the 
printing, folding and binding to a print shop w/ imposition software 
which handles creep and bottling.

If not, fold up a dummy and measure it to work out how much you need to 
adjust, then use something like the latex package pdfpages to handle 
the imposition.

William
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voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com


Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-18 Thread William F. Adams
On Dec 16, 2004, at 10:05 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote:
Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
booklet and then staple bind it.
Yes. Best to set up a document layout at that size (use Memoir or the 
geometry package) though. Shrinking your output is a mug's game.

Are there any recommendations for someone trying to print a booklet in
Linux of such small dimensions?
Problems with using a laser:
 - durability of the print --- lasers aren't great on this score
 - duplexing --- this will ruin a cartridge if the printer isn't 
designed for it.

How many pages will this be? If it's not too many pages (and you don't 
mind some handwork) you could use a Chinese-Japanese-Korean 
stab-binding technique which would allow you to print on only one side 
of the paper and get two-sided pages.

If it's just eight pages you could do a ``stroke'' book if you can 
print to large enough paper --- see the TeX Showcase or my portfolio 
for a (small) example: http://www.tug.org/texshowcase or 
http://members.aol.com/willadams --- you want the ``One Typeface: many 
fonts'' booklet. I posted updated LaTeX source for this to the XeTeX 
mailing list recently.

Design / print at 100% to create a .pdf and if possible entrust the 
printing, folding and binding to a print shop w/ imposition software 
which handles creep and bottling.

If not, fold up a dummy and measure it to work out how much you need to 
adjust, then use something like the latex package pdfpages to handle 
the imposition.

William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com


Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-18 Thread William F. Adams
On Dec 16, 2004, at 10:05 PM, Nick Lidakis wrote:
Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
booklet and then staple bind it.
Yes. Best to set up a document layout at that size (use Memoir or the 
geometry package) though. Shrinking your output is a mug's game.

Are there any recommendations for someone trying to print a booklet in
Linux of such small dimensions?
Problems with using a laser:
 - durability of the print --- lasers aren't great on this score
 - duplexing --- this will ruin a cartridge if the printer isn't 
designed for it.

How many pages will this be? If it's not too many pages (and you don't 
mind some handwork) you could use a Chinese-Japanese-Korean 
stab-binding technique which would allow you to print on only one side 
of the paper and get two-sided pages.

If it's just eight pages you could do a ``stroke'' book if you can 
print to large enough paper --- see the TeX Showcase or my portfolio 
for a (small) example: http://www.tug.org/texshowcase or 
http://members.aol.com/willadams --- you want the ``One Typeface: many 
fonts'' booklet. I posted updated LaTeX source for this to the XeTeX 
mailing list recently.

Design / print at 100% to create a .pdf and if possible entrust the 
printing, folding and binding to a print shop w/ imposition software 
which handles creep and bottling.

If not, fold up a dummy and measure it to work out how much you need to 
adjust, then use something like the latex package pdfpages to handle 
the imposition.

William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708
www.atlis.com


Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Nick Lidakis wrote:
 Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
 booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
 was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
 using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
 booklet and then staple bind it.

There is a generalized version of psnup called pstops (it is part of the
same package -- psutils), which is real PITA to use (because it is really
complicated), but I guess you can persuade to do basically anything. Read
pstops(1).

Matej

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138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang
separately.
   -- Benjamin Franklin



Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-17 Thread Todd Denniston
Nick Lidakis wrote:
 
SNIP 
 Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
 booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
 was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
 using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
 booklet and then staple bind it.
 
 Are there any recommendations for someone trying to print a booklet in
 Linux of such small dimensions?
 
 Any comment would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nick Lidakis EMT-P
If you don't mind wasting a bit of paper (or if you can turn and send it
back through to get the other half) you might do the following:
Layout - Document
Document tab - set Columns to 2
Paper tab - Dimensions size: - Custom  set height to 1/2 the A4 paper
height (I have forgotten what that is) 
Paper tab - set appropriate Custom margins

Instead of changing the paper size you might also look into preview the
output and place a [small|med|big]skip { Layout - Paragraph, Vertical
space: } at the middle of the page in both columns (after you have typed the
text to final).

It's a kludge, but I is what I thought of quickly.


Another option would be to output to postscript and use a program like mpage
to print it at 4 pages per page.

Good luck
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Nick Lidakis wrote:
 Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
 booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
 was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
 using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
 booklet and then staple bind it.

There is a generalized version of psnup called pstops (it is part of the
same package -- psutils), which is real PITA to use (because it is really
complicated), but I guess you can persuade to do basically anything. Read
pstops(1).

Matej

-- 
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang
separately.
   -- Benjamin Franklin



Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-17 Thread Todd Denniston
Nick Lidakis wrote:
 
SNIP 
 Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
 booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
 was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
 using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
 booklet and then staple bind it.
 
 Are there any recommendations for someone trying to print a booklet in
 Linux of such small dimensions?
 
 Any comment would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Nick Lidakis EMT-P
If you don't mind wasting a bit of paper (or if you can turn and send it
back through to get the other half) you might do the following:
Layout - Document
Document tab - set Columns to 2
Paper tab - Dimensions size: - Custom  set height to 1/2 the A4 paper
height (I have forgotten what that is) 
Paper tab - set appropriate Custom margins

Instead of changing the paper size you might also look into preview the
output and place a [small|med|big]skip { Layout - Paragraph, Vertical
space: } at the middle of the page in both columns (after you have typed the
text to final).

It's a kludge, but I is what I thought of quickly.


Another option would be to output to postscript and use a program like mpage
to print it at 4 pages per page.

Good luck
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter


Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-17 Thread Matej Cepl
Nick Lidakis wrote:
> Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
> booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
> was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
> using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
> booklet and then staple bind it.

There is a generalized version of psnup called pstops (it is part of the
same package -- psutils), which is real PITA to use (because it is really
complicated), but I guess you can persuade to do basically anything. Read
pstops(1).

Matej

-- 
Matej Cepl, http://www.ceplovi.cz/matej
GPG Finger: 89EF 4BC6 288A BF43 1BAB  25C3 E09F EF25 D964 84AC
138 Highland Ave. #10, Somerville, Ma 02143, (617) 623-1488
 
We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang
separately.
   -- Benjamin Franklin



Re: Printing a Pocket Paramedic Protocol Booklet: Is Lyx the right tool?

2004-12-17 Thread Todd Denniston
Nick Lidakis wrote:
> 
 
> Would it be possible to use Lyx for the typesetting, and printing the
> booklet in 133mm x 85mm dimensions with the text still being legible? I
> was hoping to be able to print four pages per letter size paper and
> using a paper cutter to trim the paper, and then finally arrange the
> booklet and then staple bind it.
> 
> Are there any recommendations for someone trying to print a booklet in
> Linux of such small dimensions?
> 
> Any comment would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Nick Lidakis EMT-P
If you don't mind wasting a bit of paper (or if you can turn and send it
back through to get the other half) you might do the following:
Layout -> Document
Document tab -> set Columns to 2
Paper tab -> Dimensions size: -> Custom & set height to 1/2 the A4 paper
height (I have forgotten what that is) 
Paper tab -> set appropriate Custom margins

Instead of changing the paper size you might also look into preview the
output and place a [small|med|big]skip { Layout -> Paragraph, Vertical
space: } at the middle of the page in both columns (after you have typed the
text to final).

It's a kludge, but I is what I thought of quickly.


Another option would be to output to postscript and use a program like mpage
to print it at 4 pages per page.

Good luck
-- 
Todd Denniston
Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) 
Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter