Re: Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[Jerry]

On Nov 2, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Jerry  wrote:

> 
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 05:24:41PM -0700, Jerry wrote:
>>> 
>>> I hope the devs see this post wrt providing different on-screen versus 
>>> rendered appearance regarding line spacing. Maybe I'll file a feature 
>>> request.
>> 
>> Hi Jerry,
>> 
>> I think it would be a good feature request. Also note that 2.2 beta has
>> not been released yet (alpha will be released soon). But perhaps you
>> just meant 2.2dev.
>> 
>> Scott
> 
> I'll file a feature request soon. Yes, I meant 2.2dev. Not sure the hash but 
> I don't think it matters for this.
> 
> Jerry

Done. Feature request ticket is http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/9838
Jerry

Re: Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[Jerry]

On Oct 27, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Scott Kostyshak  wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 05:24:41PM -0700, Jerry wrote:
>> 
>> I hope the devs see this post wrt providing different on-screen versus 
>> rendered appearance regarding line spacing. Maybe I'll file a feature 
>> request.
> 
> Hi Jerry,
> 
> I think it would be a good feature request. Also note that 2.2 beta has
> not been released yet (alpha will be released soon). But perhaps you
> just meant 2.2dev.
> 
> Scott

I'll file a feature request soon. Yes, I meant 2.2dev. Not sure the hash but I 
don't think it matters for this.

Jerry

Re: Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[Guenter Milde]

On 2015-10-28, Scott Kostyshak wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 05:24:41PM -0700, Jerry wrote:

>> I hope the devs see this post wrt providing different on-screen versus
>> rendered appearance regarding line spacing. Maybe I'll file a feature
>> request.

> I think it would be a good feature request. Also note that 2.2 beta has
> not been released yet (alpha will be released soon). But perhaps you
> just meant 2.2dev.

This would be similar to the "justified" vs. "right aligned" setting,
where finally there is a "Use justification in LyX work area" tick-box now
under Documents>Settings>Text Layout.

(BTW: Documents>Settings vs. Tools>Preferences is not so much about output
vs. GUI but in the first space "document specific" vs. "LyX defaults".

Fortunately, you can configure defaults for "document specific" settings
in the templates. These will then be used for all new documents.)

Günter

Re: Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[John Kane]

 I don't know if you have missed anything or not but one way to do this
seems to be to use the setspace package and a bit of ERT. A quick test
seems to indicate that \usepackage{setspace} in the preamble and a
|\begin{doublespacing} and \ end{doublespacing} before and after any text
in the article turns out a doublespaced PDF.

See
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/122487/linespacing-latex-for-just-a-few-lines


On 27 October 2015 at 01:58, Jerry  wrote:

> The journal to which I plan to submit a manuscript requires double
> spacing. So I went to Document -> Settings... -> Text Layout -> Line
> Spacing and selected Double. (I'm using Article (Standard Class).)
>
> This made the rendered PDF double spaced but much to my surprise, the LyX
> display also became double spaced! This is BAD. This is a lot WYSIWYG, not
> WYSISYM. Now I can see only half as much stuff in LyX and I have to scroll
> a lot etc.
>
> How can I make the LyX display maintain a nice compact appearance while
> still having a PDF that is double-spaced?
>
> More to the point of LyX design: Things under Document -> Settings seem to
> relate to how the _document_ looks, and things under LyX -> Preferences ->
> Look and Feel (on OS X) affect how LyX looks. So there should be a setting
> in Look and Feel for on-screen line spacing, separate from how the rendered
> output will look.
>
> Please tell me that I've missed something.
>
> I'm using a 2.2 beta.
>
> Jerry




-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[Jerry]

On Oct 27, 2015, at 1:15 PM, John Kane  wrote:

> I don't know if you have missed anything or not but one way to do this seems 
> to be to use the setspace package and a bit of ERT. A quick test seems to 
> indicate that \usepackage{setspace} in the preamble and a 
> |\begin{doublespacing} and \ end{doublespacing} before and after any text in 
> the article turns out a doublespaced PDF.
> 
> See 
> http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/122487/linespacing-latex-for-just-a-few-lines
>  
> 
> On 27 October 2015 at 01:58, Jerry  wrote:
> The journal to which I plan to submit a manuscript requires double spacing. 
> So I went to Document -> Settings... -> Text Layout -> Line Spacing and 
> selected Double. (I'm using Article (Standard Class).)
> 
> This made the rendered PDF double spaced but much to my surprise, the LyX 
> display also became double spaced! This is BAD. This is a lot WYSIWYG, not 
> WYSISYM. Now I can see only half as much stuff in LyX and I have to scroll a 
> lot etc.
> 
> How can I make the LyX display maintain a nice compact appearance while still 
> having a PDF that is double-spaced?
> 
> More to the point of LyX design: Things under Document -> Settings seem to 
> relate to how the _document_ looks, and things under LyX -> Preferences -> 
> Look and Feel (on OS X) affect how LyX looks. So there should be a setting in 
> Look and Feel for on-screen line spacing, separate from how the rendered 
> output will look.
> 
> Please tell me that I've missed something.
> 
> I'm using a 2.2 beta.
> 
> Jerry
> -- 
> John Kane
> Kingston ON Canada

Thanks, John. Good tip. I should have found it myself but I was a little cranky 
with LyX. It seems that when you select double spacing in Settings in LyX, it 
incorporates the setspace package but then applies double spacing for the 
entire document with \doublespacing. Your way lets me keep the title and author 
lines single spaced.

I hope the devs see this post wrt providing different on-screen versus rendered 
appearance regarding line spacing. Maybe I'll file a feature request.

Jerry

Re: Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[Scott Kostyshak]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 05:24:41PM -0700, Jerry wrote:
> 
> I hope the devs see this post wrt providing different on-screen versus 
> rendered appearance regarding line spacing. Maybe I'll file a feature request.

Hi Jerry,

I think it would be a good feature request. Also note that 2.2 beta has
not been released yet (alpha will be released soon). But perhaps you
just meant 2.2dev.

Scott

Setting double-spaced output also causes double-spaced on-screen LyX display

[Jerry]

The journal to which I plan to submit a manuscript requires double spacing. So 
I went to Document -> Settings... -> Text Layout -> Line Spacing and selected 
Double. (I'm using Article (Standard Class).)

This made the rendered PDF double spaced but much to my surprise, the LyX 
display also became double spaced! This is BAD. This is a lot WYSIWYG, not 
WYSISYM. Now I can see only half as much stuff in LyX and I have to scroll a 
lot etc.

How can I make the LyX display maintain a nice compact appearance while still 
having a PDF that is double-spaced?

More to the point of LyX design: Things under Document -> Settings seem to 
relate to how the _document_ looks, and things under LyX -> Preferences -> Look 
and Feel (on OS X) affect how LyX looks. So there should be a setting in Look 
and Feel for on-screen line spacing, separate from how the rendered output will 
look.

Please tell me that I've missed something.

I'm using a 2.2 beta.

Jerry