Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

That's true for most OS X users, but not all.

If you want to use multi-platform programs, you have to put up with a
certain amount of non-Mac behavior. (As do Windows and Linux users, when
using programs primarily written to run on a different system.)

I'm just glad that LyX is available on OS X, even though it doesn't quite
fit into the system the way only for OS X programs do.

-- Rich


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:



 The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle
 from the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema
 to the OS X user.

 Jerry

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Jerry]

On Dec 29, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's true for most OS X users, but not all.
 
 If you want to use multi-platform programs, you have to put up with a certain 
 amount of non-Mac behavior. (As do Windows and Linux users, when using 
 programs primarily written to run on a different system.)
 
 I'm just glad that LyX is available on OS X, even though it doesn't quite fit 
 into the system the way only for OS X programs do.
 
 -- Rich

The package builder can and should put auxiliary files next to the app bundle, 
not inside it. This does not complicate user-level installation since all 
files/folders that exist on the .dmg can be dragged and dropped as easily as a 
single file. Of course, this would in some cases require minor code changes but 
if the code is looking inside an app bundle (which does not exist on other 
platforms, or if so, not in the OS X form), then it has already been 
specialized for OS X and might as well be specialized differently.

The vast majority of OS X users do not know that there is anything in the app 
bundle. LyX is intended for use by writers, not by hackers.

Yes, I'm glad LyX is available to OS X too—really glad. I hope these comments 
(and others by me) are taken in the spirit in which they are intended, that is, 
helpful suggestions. And most of my suggestions are and will be on the user 
interface which might or might not be OS X-specific.

Jerry
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 
 The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle from 
 the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema to the 
 OS X user.
 
 Jerry
 

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

That's true for most OS X users, but not all.

If you want to use multi-platform programs, you have to put up with a
certain amount of non-Mac behavior. (As do Windows and Linux users, when
using programs primarily written to run on a different system.)

I'm just glad that LyX is available on OS X, even though it doesn't quite
fit into the system the way only for OS X programs do.

-- Rich


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:



 The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle
 from the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema
 to the OS X user.

 Jerry

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Jerry]

On Dec 29, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's true for most OS X users, but not all.
 
 If you want to use multi-platform programs, you have to put up with a certain 
 amount of non-Mac behavior. (As do Windows and Linux users, when using 
 programs primarily written to run on a different system.)
 
 I'm just glad that LyX is available on OS X, even though it doesn't quite fit 
 into the system the way only for OS X programs do.
 
 -- Rich

The package builder can and should put auxiliary files next to the app bundle, 
not inside it. This does not complicate user-level installation since all 
files/folders that exist on the .dmg can be dragged and dropped as easily as a 
single file. Of course, this would in some cases require minor code changes but 
if the code is looking inside an app bundle (which does not exist on other 
platforms, or if so, not in the OS X form), then it has already been 
specialized for OS X and might as well be specialized differently.

The vast majority of OS X users do not know that there is anything in the app 
bundle. LyX is intended for use by writers, not by hackers.

Yes, I'm glad LyX is available to OS X too—really glad. I hope these comments 
(and others by me) are taken in the spirit in which they are intended, that is, 
helpful suggestions. And most of my suggestions are and will be on the user 
interface which might or might not be OS X-specific.

Jerry
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jerry lancebo...@qwest.net wrote:
 
 
 The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle from 
 the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema to the 
 OS X user.
 
 Jerry
 

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

That's true for most OS X users, but not all.

If you want to use multi-platform programs, you have to put up with a
certain amount of non-Mac behavior. (As do Windows and Linux users, when
using programs primarily written to run on a different system.)

I'm just glad that LyX is available on OS X, even though it doesn't quite
fit into the system the way only for OS X programs do.

-- Rich


On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jerry  wrote:

>
>
> The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle
> from the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema
> to the OS X user.
>
> Jerry
>
>

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Jerry]

On Dec 29, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Richard Talley  wrote:

> That's true for most OS X users, but not all.
> 
> If you want to use multi-platform programs, you have to put up with a certain 
> amount of non-Mac behavior. (As do Windows and Linux users, when using 
> programs primarily written to run on a different system.)
> 
> I'm just glad that LyX is available on OS X, even though it doesn't quite fit 
> into the system the way only for OS X programs do.
> 
> -- Rich

The package builder can and should put auxiliary files next to the app bundle, 
not inside it. This does not complicate user-level installation since all 
files/folders that exist on the .dmg can be dragged and dropped as easily as a 
single file. Of course, this would in some cases require minor code changes but 
if the code is looking inside an app bundle (which does not exist on other 
platforms, or if so, not in the OS X form), then it has already been 
specialized for OS X and might as well be specialized differently.

The vast majority of OS X users do not know that there is anything in the app 
bundle. LyX is intended for use by writers, not by hackers.

Yes, I'm glad LyX is available to OS X too—really glad. I hope these comments 
(and others by me) are taken in the spirit in which they are intended, that is, 
helpful suggestions. And most of my suggestions are and will be on the user 
interface which might or might not be OS X-specific.

Jerry
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Jerry  wrote:
> 
> 
> The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle from 
> the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema to the 
> OS X user.
> 
> Jerry
> 

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Anders Ekberg]

On 2013-12-27 04:37, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

If you know the filename, why don't you access a command prompt and
type:

locate filename | more

I guess theoretically you might have to install some stuff to do that,
but it's a wise investment.

Works out of the box on Mac OSX 10.9.1 and gives
$ locate LyX.app | more
/Applications/LyX.app
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Frameworks
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Frameworks/Aspell.framework
Š etc


You can also start LyX and choose LyX  About LyX. That will give you the
location of the LyX library (which should be in the LyX.app bundle)

On my Mavericks, right-clicking LyX.app gives a new window with the folder
Contents. As said, if that folder doesn¹t exist the program shouldn¹t work.
You can also check from the Terminal:
$ ls /Applications/LyX.app/
(provided that LyX is in the Application folder and named LyX.app)

Hope this helps.

/@nders

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.
 
 Try this instead:
 
 
 
 Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
Folder...' command.
 
 
 
 Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that this
is case sensitive):
 
 
 
 /Applications/LyX.app/Contents
 
 
 

Thank you Richard, your method worked! Also, I discovered something else
strange so will report it to you in case it helps you guys to repair/improve
the software. With your method I go the folder and contents to display. IN
that finder window, I can also search for 'example' to fine the file
example_raw.lyx since there are so many files and folders inside. I can do
that by choosing to search within that folder. HOWEVER, if I just open a
usual finder window, and choose to search my whole computer for
'example_raw.lyx' or even just 'example', it will not show the file. It
seems all the contents of the lyx app or folder or whatever it is, are
somehow invisible to searching, except by the method Richard has detailed.

Anyway, many thanks to you RIchard and all you nice people who have tried to
help. Very much appreciated :-) May you all have a lovely New Year :-)

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

Happy New Year to you too. Glad you were able to find the LyX example files
you were looking for.

Spotlight doesn't index inside application bundles, so the Finder search
behavior you describe is normal on OS X. Users normally wouldn't need to be
searching inside bundles; the situation with the LyX example files is an
unusual exception.

-- Rich



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:25 AM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
  I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
 fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
 Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.
 
  Try this instead:
 
 
 
  Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
 Folder...' command.
 
 
 
  Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that
 this
 is case sensitive):
 
 
 
  /Applications/LyX.app/Contents
 
 
 

 Thank you Richard, your method worked! Also, I discovered something else
 strange so will report it to you in case it helps you guys to
 repair/improve
 the software. With your method I go the folder and contents to display. IN
 that finder window, I can also search for 'example' to fine the file
 example_raw.lyx since there are so many files and folders inside. I can do
 that by choosing to search within that folder. HOWEVER, if I just open a
 usual finder window, and choose to search my whole computer for
 'example_raw.lyx' or even just 'example', it will not show the file. It
 seems all the contents of the lyx app or folder or whatever it is, are
 somehow invisible to searching, except by the method Richard has detailed.

 Anyway, many thanks to you RIchard and all you nice people who have tried
 to
 help. Very much appreciated :-) May you all have a lovely New Year :-)

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Jerry]

On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:29 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
 
 Find LyX.app in your applications folder
 Right click on it and select show package contentsThe go to Contents -
 Resources - examples
 It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
 outside of the app if you are going to use them often.

[Sorry, I don't seem to have the entire thread for this.]

The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle from 
the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema to the OS 
X user.

Jerry

 
 hope that helps
 Steve
 
 
 
 
 I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing show package
 contents shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Anders Ekberg]

On 2013-12-27 04:37, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:

If you know the filename, why don't you access a command prompt and
type:

locate filename | more

I guess theoretically you might have to install some stuff to do that,
but it's a wise investment.

Works out of the box on Mac OSX 10.9.1 and gives
$ locate LyX.app | more
/Applications/LyX.app
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Frameworks
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Frameworks/Aspell.framework
Š etc


You can also start LyX and choose LyX  About LyX. That will give you the
location of the LyX library (which should be in the LyX.app bundle)

On my Mavericks, right-clicking LyX.app gives a new window with the folder
Contents. As said, if that folder doesn¹t exist the program shouldn¹t work.
You can also check from the Terminal:
$ ls /Applications/LyX.app/
(provided that LyX is in the Application folder and named LyX.app)

Hope this helps.

/@nders

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.
 
 Try this instead:
 
 
 
 Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
Folder...' command.
 
 
 
 Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that this
is case sensitive):
 
 
 
 /Applications/LyX.app/Contents
 
 
 

Thank you Richard, your method worked! Also, I discovered something else
strange so will report it to you in case it helps you guys to repair/improve
the software. With your method I go the folder and contents to display. IN
that finder window, I can also search for 'example' to fine the file
example_raw.lyx since there are so many files and folders inside. I can do
that by choosing to search within that folder. HOWEVER, if I just open a
usual finder window, and choose to search my whole computer for
'example_raw.lyx' or even just 'example', it will not show the file. It
seems all the contents of the lyx app or folder or whatever it is, are
somehow invisible to searching, except by the method Richard has detailed.

Anyway, many thanks to you RIchard and all you nice people who have tried to
help. Very much appreciated :-) May you all have a lovely New Year :-)

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

Happy New Year to you too. Glad you were able to find the LyX example files
you were looking for.

Spotlight doesn't index inside application bundles, so the Finder search
behavior you describe is normal on OS X. Users normally wouldn't need to be
searching inside bundles; the situation with the LyX example files is an
unusual exception.

-- Rich



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:25 AM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
  I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
 fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
 Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.
 
  Try this instead:
 
 
 
  Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
 Folder...' command.
 
 
 
  Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that
 this
 is case sensitive):
 
 
 
  /Applications/LyX.app/Contents
 
 
 

 Thank you Richard, your method worked! Also, I discovered something else
 strange so will report it to you in case it helps you guys to
 repair/improve
 the software. With your method I go the folder and contents to display. IN
 that finder window, I can also search for 'example' to fine the file
 example_raw.lyx since there are so many files and folders inside. I can do
 that by choosing to search within that folder. HOWEVER, if I just open a
 usual finder window, and choose to search my whole computer for
 'example_raw.lyx' or even just 'example', it will not show the file. It
 seems all the contents of the lyx app or folder or whatever it is, are
 somehow invisible to searching, except by the method Richard has detailed.

 Anyway, many thanks to you RIchard and all you nice people who have tried
 to
 help. Very much appreciated :-) May you all have a lovely New Year :-)

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Jerry]

On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:29 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
 
 Find LyX.app in your applications folder
 Right click on it and select show package contentsThe go to Contents -
 Resources - examples
 It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
 outside of the app if you are going to use them often.

[Sorry, I don't seem to have the entire thread for this.]

The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle from 
the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema to the OS 
X user.

Jerry

 
 hope that helps
 Steve
 
 
 
 
 I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing show package
 contents shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks
 
 
 

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Anders Ekberg]

On 2013-12-27 04:37, "Steve Litt"  wrote:

>If you know the filename, why don't you access a command prompt and
>type:
>
>locate filename | more
>
>I guess theoretically you might have to install some stuff to do that,
>but it's a wise investment.

Works out of the box on Mac OSX 10.9.1 and gives
$ locate LyX.app | more
/Applications/LyX.app
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Frameworks
/Applications/LyX.app/Contents/Frameworks/Aspell.framework
Š etc


You can also start LyX and choose LyX > About LyX. That will give you the
location of the LyX library (which should be in the LyX.app bundle)

On my Mavericks, right-clicking LyX.app gives a new window with the folder
Contents. As said, if that folder doesn¹t exist the program shouldn¹t work.
You can also check from the Terminal:
$ ls /Applications/LyX.app/
(provided that LyX is in the Application folder and named LyX.app)

Hope this helps.

/@nders

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

Richard Talley  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> 
> I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.
> 
> Try this instead:
> 
> 
> 
> Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
Folder...' command.
> 
> 
> 
> Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that this
is case sensitive):
> 
> 
> 
> /Applications/LyX.app/Contents
> 
> 
> 

Thank you Richard, your method worked! Also, I discovered something else
strange so will report it to you in case it helps you guys to repair/improve
the software. With your method I go the folder and contents to display. IN
that finder window, I can also search for 'example' to fine the file
example_raw.lyx since there are so many files and folders inside. I can do
that by choosing to search within that folder. HOWEVER, if I just open a
usual finder window, and choose to search my whole computer for
'example_raw.lyx' or even just 'example', it will not show the file. It
seems all the contents of the lyx app or folder or whatever it is, are
somehow invisible to searching, except by the method Richard has detailed.

Anyway, many thanks to you RIchard and all you nice people who have tried to
help. Very much appreciated :-) May you all have a lovely New Year :-)

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

Happy New Year to you too. Glad you were able to find the LyX example files
you were looking for.

Spotlight doesn't index inside application bundles, so the Finder search
behavior you describe is normal on OS X. Users normally wouldn't need to be
searching inside bundles; the situation with the LyX example files is an
unusual exception.

-- Rich



On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:25 AM, justin  wrote:

> Richard Talley  gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
> fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
> Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.
> >
> > Try this instead:
> >
> >
> >
> > Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
> Folder...' command.
> >
> >
> >
> > Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that
> this
> is case sensitive):
> >
> >
> >
> > /Applications/LyX.app/Contents
> >
> >
> >
>
> Thank you Richard, your method worked! Also, I discovered something else
> strange so will report it to you in case it helps you guys to
> repair/improve
> the software. With your method I go the folder and contents to display. IN
> that finder window, I can also search for 'example' to fine the file
> example_raw.lyx since there are so many files and folders inside. I can do
> that by choosing to search within that folder. HOWEVER, if I just open a
> usual finder window, and choose to search my whole computer for
> 'example_raw.lyx' or even just 'example', it will not show the file. It
> seems all the contents of the lyx app or folder or whatever it is, are
> somehow invisible to searching, except by the method Richard has detailed.
>
> Anyway, many thanks to you RIchard and all you nice people who have tried
> to
> help. Very much appreciated :-) May you all have a lovely New Year :-)
>
>
>
>

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Jerry]

On Dec 26, 2013, at 4:29 PM, justin  wrote:

> 
>> On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
>> 
>> Find LyX.app in your applications folder
>> Right click on it and select "show package contents"The go to Contents ->
> Resources -> examples
>> It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
> outside of the app if you are going to use them often.

[Sorry, I don't seem to have the entire thread for this.]

The OS X user should __never__ be required to look inside an app bundle from 
the Finder (by right-clicking or Control-clicking). This is anathema to the OS 
X user.

Jerry

>> 
>> hope that helps
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing "show package
> contents" shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

 On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
 
 Find LyX.app in your applications folder
 Right click on it and select show package contentsThe go to Contents -
Resources - examples
 It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
outside of the app if you are going to use them often.
 
 hope that helps
 Steve
 
 
 

I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing show package
contents shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named 'Contents'?



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:29 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:


  On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
 
  Find LyX.app in your applications folder
  Right click on it and select show package contentsThe go to Contents -
 Resources - examples
  It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
 outside of the app if you are going to use them often.
 
  hope that helps
  Steve
 
 
 

 I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing show package
 contents shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.

 Thanks

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named 'Contents'?
 
 


Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would really
love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX actually
runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.

In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually an
application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
(And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)

I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a
Genius Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.

-- Rich



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
  A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named
 'Contents'?
 
 


 Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
 whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would really
 love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

 
 That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX actually
runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.
 
 
 
 In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually an
application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
(And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)
 
 I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a Genius
Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.
 
 -- Rich


Do you know anyone who has had this method work on the new Mac OS? I have
been searching the internet for a solution, but I have not found anyone
reporting if it works or not on OX 10.9. Perhaps they changed things with
this new OS? The app itself is working, so maybe it is just keeping
everything invisible. I am not technically proficient, so I do not know what
else to do.

Or is there anywhere we can just download the files which will help us learn
to use lyx?

Thank you!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.

Try this instead:

Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
Folder...' command.

Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that this
is case sensitive):

/Applications/LyX.app/Contents

-- Rich



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:04 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:


 
  That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX
 actually
 runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.
 
 
 
  In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually
 an
 application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
 case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
 contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
 previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
 (And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)
 
  I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
 installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
 find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a
 Genius
 Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.
 
  -- Rich


 Do you know anyone who has had this method work on the new Mac OS? I have
 been searching the internet for a solution, but I have not found anyone
 reporting if it works or not on OX 10.9. Perhaps they changed things with
 this new OS? The app itself is working, so maybe it is just keeping
 everything invisible. I am not technically proficient, so I do not know
 what
 else to do.

 Or is there anywhere we can just download the files which will help us
 learn
 to use lyx?

 Thank you!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:48:41 + (UTC)
justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:
 
  
  
  
  A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named
  'Contents'?
  
  
 
 
 Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
 whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would
 really love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Justin, 

If you know the filename, why don't you access a command prompt and
type:

locate filename | more

I guess theoretically you might have to install some stuff to do that,
but it's a wise investment.

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

 On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
 
 Find LyX.app in your applications folder
 Right click on it and select show package contentsThe go to Contents -
Resources - examples
 It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
outside of the app if you are going to use them often.
 
 hope that helps
 Steve
 
 
 

I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing show package
contents shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named 'Contents'?



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:29 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:


  On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
 
  Find LyX.app in your applications folder
  Right click on it and select show package contentsThe go to Contents -
 Resources - examples
  It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
 outside of the app if you are going to use them often.
 
  hope that helps
  Steve
 
 
 

 I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing show package
 contents shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.

 Thanks

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
 A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named 'Contents'?
 
 


Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would really
love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX actually
runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.

In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually an
application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
(And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)

I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a
Genius Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.

-- Rich



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
  A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named
 'Contents'?
 
 


 Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
 whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would really
 love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

 
 That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX actually
runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.
 
 
 
 In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually an
application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
(And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)
 
 I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a Genius
Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.
 
 -- Rich


Do you know anyone who has had this method work on the new Mac OS? I have
been searching the internet for a solution, but I have not found anyone
reporting if it works or not on OX 10.9. Perhaps they changed things with
this new OS? The app itself is working, so maybe it is just keeping
everything invisible. I am not technically proficient, so I do not know what
else to do.

Or is there anywhere we can just download the files which will help us learn
to use lyx?

Thank you!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.

Try this instead:

Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
Folder...' command.

Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that this
is case sensitive):

/Applications/LyX.app/Contents

-- Rich



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:04 PM, justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:


 
  That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX
 actually
 runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.
 
 
 
  In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually
 an
 application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
 case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
 contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
 previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
 (And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)
 
  I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
 installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
 find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a
 Genius
 Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.
 
  -- Rich


 Do you know anyone who has had this method work on the new Mac OS? I have
 been searching the internet for a solution, but I have not found anyone
 reporting if it works or not on OX 10.9. Perhaps they changed things with
 this new OS? The app itself is working, so maybe it is just keeping
 everything invisible. I am not technically proficient, so I do not know
 what
 else to do.

 Or is there anywhere we can just download the files which will help us
 learn
 to use lyx?

 Thank you!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:48:41 + (UTC)
justin justina...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Richard Talley rich.talley at gmail.com writes:
 
  
  
  
  A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named
  'Contents'?
  
  
 
 
 Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
 whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would
 really love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Justin, 

If you know the filename, why don't you access a command prompt and
type:

locate filename | more

I guess theoretically you might have to install some stuff to do that,
but it's a wise investment.

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

> On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
> 
> Find LyX.app in your applications folder
> Right click on it and select "show package contents"The go to Contents ->
Resources -> examples
> It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
outside of the app if you are going to use them often.
> 
> hope that helps
> Steve
> 
> 
> 

I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing "show package
contents" shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named 'Contents'?



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:29 PM, justin  wrote:

>
> > On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.
> >
> > Find LyX.app in your applications folder
> > Right click on it and select "show package contents"The go to Contents ->
> Resources -> examples
> > It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient
> outside of the app if you are going to use them often.
> >
> > hope that helps
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
>
> I am using Mac OS 10.9 and this trick does not work. Doing "show package
> contents" shows an empty folder! Help would be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

Richard Talley  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> 
> 
> A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named 'Contents'?
> 
> 


Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would really
love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX actually
runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.

In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually an
application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
(And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)

I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a
Genius Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.

-- Rich



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 4:48 PM, justin  wrote:

> Richard Talley  gmail.com> writes:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named
> 'Contents'?
> >
> >
>
>
> Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
> whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would really
> love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!
>
>

Re: Tutorial sample files

[justin]

> 
> That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX actually
runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.
> 
> 
> 
> In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually an
application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
(And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)
> 
> I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a Genius
Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.
> 
> -- Rich


Do you know anyone who has had this method work on the new Mac OS? I have
been searching the internet for a solution, but I have not found anyone
reporting if it works or not on OX 10.9. Perhaps they changed things with
this new OS? The app itself is working, so maybe it is just keeping
everything invisible. I am not technically proficient, so I do not know what
else to do.

Or is there anywhere we can just download the files which will help us learn
to use lyx?

Thank you!

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Richard Talley]

I'm not quite ready to upgrade to Mavericks, but this technique is so
fundamental to how OS X has worked since the very beginning I can't see
Apple removing it. My search also came up empty on your issue.

Try this instead:

Open a Finder window, pull down the 'Go' menu and choose the 'Go to
Folder...' command.

Enter this in the resulting 'Go to the folder:' dialog box (note that this
is case sensitive):

/Applications/LyX.app/Contents

-- Rich



On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 7:04 PM, justin  wrote:

>
> >
> > That's a stumper - an empty app would have nothing to run. If LyX
> actually
> runs, then the app can't possibly be empty.
> >
> >
> >
> > In OS X, the Finder presents an app as a single file, but it's actually
> an
> application bundle that contains the executable and other resources (in the
> case of LyX the other resources include the example files). You access its
> contents using the 'show package contents' command as Stephen specified
> previously. That's been true since OS X 10.0, more than a dozen years ago.
> (And well before that, in NeXTSTEP, from which OS X is derived.)
> >
> > I would suggest having a technically adept friend look at your
> installation, or asking at your local Apple User Group (use this site to
> find your local AUG: http://appleusergroupresources.com), or making a
> Genius
> Bar appointment at your local Apple Store.
> >
> > -- Rich
>
>
> Do you know anyone who has had this method work on the new Mac OS? I have
> been searching the internet for a solution, but I have not found anyone
> reporting if it works or not on OX 10.9. Perhaps they changed things with
> this new OS? The app itself is working, so maybe it is just keeping
> everything invisible. I am not technically proficient, so I do not know
> what
> else to do.
>
> Or is there anywhere we can just download the files which will help us
> learn
> to use lyx?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Steve Litt]

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 23:48:41 + (UTC)
justin  wrote:

> Richard Talley  gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A completely empty folder? Or a folder containing a folder named
> > 'Contents'?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Thanks for coming back so quickly! Completely empty. Nothing in it
> whatsoever. That's what it shows using that method anyway. I would
> really love to find it, so I can learn to use lyx!

Justin, 

If you know the filename, why don't you access a command prompt and
type:

locate filename | more

I guess theoretically you might have to install some stuff to do that,
but it's a wise investment.

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance

Tutorial sample files

[Paul Meehl]

I am new to LyX and cannot find the sample files described in the
Tutorial.pdf:

   Finally, we have written a file called example_raw.lyx to let you
practice

your LYX skills. Imagine that it was typed by someone who did not know

about any of LYX’s great features. As you learn new LYX functions, we will

suggest that you fix those parts of example_raw.lyx. It also contains
‘subtle’

hints about how to fix things.2 If you want to cheat, or check what you have

done, there is also a file called example_lyxified.lyx which contains the

same text written and typeset by a LYX master.

   The example files can be found in the examples directory of LYX’s
installation folder. ...

I am using OS X 10.8.5. I first installed MacTex, then LyX,
merely
 moving




L
y
X
.app
 into the Applications folder, as prompted. LyX seems to work fine
,

just do not have these files on my machine.
 Thanks for any help to find them.


Leslie J. Yonce-Meehl
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~pemeehl/

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Stephen Buonopane]

On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Paul Meehl wrote:

 I am new to LyX and cannot find the sample files described in the 
 Tutorial.pdf:
 
Finally, we have written a file called example_raw.lyx to let you practice
 your LYX skills. Imagine that it was typed by someone who did not know
 about any of LYX’s great features. As you learn new LYX functions, we will
 suggest that you fix those parts of example_raw.lyx. It also contains ‘subtle’
 hints about how to fix things.2 If you want to cheat, or check what you have
 done, there is also a file called example_lyxified.lyx which contains the
 same text written and typeset by a LYX master.
The example files can be found in the examples directory of LYX’s 
 installation folder. ...
 
 
 I am using OS X 10.8.5. I first installed MacTex, then LyX, merely moving L 
 yX.app into the Applications folder, as prompted. LyX seems to work fine 
 ,just do not have these files on my machine. Thanks for any help to find 
 them. 

On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.

Find LyX.app in your applications folder
Right click on it and select show package contents
The go to Contents - Resources - examples

It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient outside 
of the app if you are going to use them often.

hope that helps
Steve

Tutorial sample files

[Paul Meehl]

I am new to LyX and cannot find the sample files described in the
Tutorial.pdf:

   Finally, we have written a file called example_raw.lyx to let you
practice

your LYX skills. Imagine that it was typed by someone who did not know

about any of LYX’s great features. As you learn new LYX functions, we will

suggest that you fix those parts of example_raw.lyx. It also contains
‘subtle’

hints about how to fix things.2 If you want to cheat, or check what you have

done, there is also a file called example_lyxified.lyx which contains the

same text written and typeset by a LYX master.

   The example files can be found in the examples directory of LYX’s
installation folder. ...

I am using OS X 10.8.5. I first installed MacTex, then LyX,
merely
 moving




L
y
X
.app
 into the Applications folder, as prompted. LyX seems to work fine
,

just do not have these files on my machine.
 Thanks for any help to find them.


Leslie J. Yonce-Meehl
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~pemeehl/

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Stephen Buonopane]

On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Paul Meehl wrote:

 I am new to LyX and cannot find the sample files described in the 
 Tutorial.pdf:
 
Finally, we have written a file called example_raw.lyx to let you practice
 your LYX skills. Imagine that it was typed by someone who did not know
 about any of LYX’s great features. As you learn new LYX functions, we will
 suggest that you fix those parts of example_raw.lyx. It also contains ‘subtle’
 hints about how to fix things.2 If you want to cheat, or check what you have
 done, there is also a file called example_lyxified.lyx which contains the
 same text written and typeset by a LYX master.
The example files can be found in the examples directory of LYX’s 
 installation folder. ...
 
 
 I am using OS X 10.8.5. I first installed MacTex, then LyX, merely moving L 
 yX.app into the Applications folder, as prompted. LyX seems to work fine 
 ,just do not have these files on my machine. Thanks for any help to find 
 them. 

On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.

Find LyX.app in your applications folder
Right click on it and select show package contents
The go to Contents - Resources - examples

It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient outside 
of the app if you are going to use them often.

hope that helps
Steve

Tutorial sample files

[Paul Meehl]

I am new to LyX and cannot find the sample files described in the
Tutorial.pdf:

   Finally, we have written a file called example_raw.lyx to let you
practice

your LYX skills. Imagine that it was typed by someone who did not know

about any of LYX’s great features. As you learn new LYX functions, we will

suggest that you fix those parts of example_raw.lyx. It also contains
‘subtle’

hints about how to fix things.2 If you want to cheat, or check what you have

done, there is also a file called example_lyxified.lyx which contains the

same text written and typeset by a LYX master.

   The example files can be found in the examples directory of LYX’s
installation folder. ...

I am using OS X 10.8.5. I first installed MacTex, then LyX,
merely
 moving




L
y
X
.app
 into the Applications folder, as prompted. LyX seems to work fine
,

just do not have these files on my machine.
 Thanks for any help to find them.


Leslie J. Yonce-Meehl
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~pemeehl/

Re: Tutorial sample files

[Stephen Buonopane]

On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:05 PM, Paul Meehl wrote:

> I am new to LyX and cannot find the sample files described in the 
> Tutorial.pdf:
> 
>Finally, we have written a file called example_raw.lyx to let you practice
> your LYX skills. Imagine that it was typed by someone who did not know
> about any of LYX’s great features. As you learn new LYX functions, we will
> suggest that you fix those parts of example_raw.lyx. It also contains ‘subtle’
> hints about how to fix things.2 If you want to cheat, or check what you have
> done, there is also a file called example_lyxified.lyx which contains the
> same text written and typeset by a LYX master.
>The example files can be found in the examples directory of LYX’s 
> installation folder. ...
> 
> 
> I am using OS X 10.8.5. I first installed MacTex, then LyX, merely moving L 
> yX.app into the Applications folder, as prompted. LyX seems to work fine 
> ,just do not have these files on my machine. Thanks for any help to find 
> them. 

On the Mac installation, they get buried inside of the app package.

Find LyX.app in your applications folder
Right click on it and select "show package contents"
The go to Contents -> Resources -> examples

It might be a good idea to copy the folder to somewhere more convenient outside 
of the app if you are going to use them often.

hope that helps
Steve