Re: compilation runs endlosly

[Michael Berger]

Hi Uwe, John,
thanks for your attention and contributions.

This is the issue as reported earlier:
Text as per screenshot 'underbar.png' worked in KOMA-Script Article but 
not in a linguistic document using André Miedes Classicthesis v4.1.
More specificly: exporting the child document to PDF worked but did not 
after including the child in the master document. Starting compilation 
produced fatal results: it never ended and if the power was not 
immediately cutting off  the child and even the master got erased (0 bites).


I overcame this problem by removing the underbar as shown in screenshot 
'nounderbar' but left all the other formats untouched.
I exercised this throughout my entire document on 14 similar examples 
and now get a straight forward export to PDF.
As an ordinary user I have to shift this problem to the experts: LaTeX 
bug, LyX bug or Miede's template or what else?


Thanks and regards,
Michael Berger


On 02/15/2016 04:36 PM, John Kane wrote:

Hi Michael,
"Miede's template?"

Well, I couldn't think what else to call it. It seems, upon inspection 
to be "ClassicThesis.lyx". I have something in my director called 
template.lyx but it is definitely not what I thought it was. I'm not 
sure what it is.


I rather suspected that you were running into an interaction problem. 
I think the only thing to do is the old programming trick of starting 
out with just the one child document, run; add another, run; until you 
get a run that goes into the loop.


Once you have that it, try running the first child with the last and 
see if you get the loop. If so, then send the master and child docs 
here and see what the experts can do. If not, resume the "add another, 
run" routine.


Another thought, particularly if you find it's only two child 
documents, is run it  in LaTeX and see what happens.  That might show 
us if it is a specifically LyX problem or one to refer to the LaTeX 
maintainers.


Sorry I cannot be of more help.




On 02/14/2016 06:29 PM, John Kane wrote:

Yes does the one sub-file do the same thing if you compile it
alone in the template ?

On 14 February 2016 at 12:13, > wrote:

On 2016-02-14 08:59, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi all, can somebody help, please!





-- 
John Kane

Kingston ON Canada





--
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: compilation runs endlosly

[Michael Berger]

On 02/15/2016 11:50 PM, Uwe Stöhr wrote:

Am 14.02.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Michael Berger:


Hi all, can somebody help, please!


It seems the only way is that you prepare a ZIP file and remove child 
file by child file from the master until you found the offending child 
file. If you send me the result (master and the child without any 
images). I can have a look.


regards Uwe

Hallo Uwe,
thanks for your comment.
I already did identify the child in question. And within that child it 
is exactly the expression I sent with my first e-mail on the issue. But 
- it is definitely not *THAT* child document - the problem occurs in any 
child with that or a similar expression.
As it right now looks to me the endless loop (or whatever it is) when 
compiling is probably caused by certain double extra formatting of text, 
e.g. slanted+underbar etc.
Take this as a preliminary result. I am still in the process of 
verifying this throughout my document and once reaffirmed and for 
certain  I will revert to the list.


Danke und einen schönen Tag,
Michael Berger

Re: compilation runs endlosly

[Uwe Stöhr]

Am 14.02.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Michael Berger:


Hi all, can somebody help, please!


It seems the only way is that you prepare a ZIP file and remove child 
file by child file from the master until you found the offending child 
file. If you send me the result (master and the child without any 
images). I can have a look.


regards Uwe

Re: compilation runs endlosly

[Michael Berger]

Hi John,
good question! Thinking that one of those characters might be the 
culprit I forgot to mention that compiling the child document alone 
_always_ works.
But after saving and including it in the master document, compiling 
_always_ enters that loop (or whatever it is).

I can reproduce this behavior as many times as I want.
So, in the layman's thinking something on the way to include the child 
in the master is going wrong. The only difference is that sometimes the 
child file is destroyed and sometimes it is not.
My master document in question has 14 child documents. Most contain 
glosses and other special things typical for linguistic theses and they 
include and compile just fine.
Funny enough, only the child with characters as shown in the screen shot 
creates the problem. A pseudo problem?
However, now it becomes clear to me that this most probably has nothing 
to do with any characters -  very same examples do work well in other 
documents (document class KOMA-Script article, without master-child 
relationship).


You seem to be on the right track as to what is causing this mysterious 
problem - I hope so very much!

Miede's template?
I pray as I am very desperate after days of frustration!

Thanks and regards,
Michael Berger

On 02/14/2016 06:29 PM, John Kane wrote:
Yes does the one sub-file do the same thing if you compile it alone in 
the template ?


On 14 February 2016 at 12:13, > wrote:


On 2016-02-14 08:59, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi all, can somebody help, please!

I am working on a thesis (linguistic) based on Miede's
classicthesis.v4.1.
The Example per screenhot causes the compilation to PDF to run
endlessly.
I cannot interrupt the process and am forced to cut the power off.
That makes it even worse - in most cases I am left with a
spoiled file
(0 bites).
However, sometimes the file (a child document) remains intact
and if I
then remove the example the export to PDF succeeds as normal.
All characters had been typed in using the keyboard.
I want to add that none of those characters used in the
Example poses
a problem when typed in normal text or in a gloss as a single
character.


I can't tell you what's going on (aside from the fact that you've
probably found a way to make TeX recurse or loop), but I'll bet
that whoever _can_ tell you what's going on will want to see the
Lyx file that causes the problem. Attach it, maybe?

If the thing is huge or proprietary, try trimming your document
down to the one offending equation.  That'll either provide a
nice, compact Lyx file to distribute, or it won't cause the
problem in the first place which will be usefully educational.




--
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

compilation runs endlosly

[Michael Berger]

Hi all, can somebody help, please!

I am working on a thesis (linguistic) based on Miede's classicthesis.v4.1.
The Example per screenhot causes the compilation to PDF to run endlessly.
I cannot interrupt the process and am forced to cut the power off.
That makes it even worse - in most cases I am left with a spoiled file 
(0 bites).
However, sometimes the file (a child document) remains intact and if I 
then remove the example the export to PDF succeeds as normal.

All characters had been typed in using the keyboard.
I want to add that none of those characters used in the Example poses a 
problem when typed in normal text or in a gloss as a single character.



Thanks,
Michael Berger

Re: compilation runs endlosly

[John Kane]

Yes does the one sub-file do the same thing if you compile it alone in the
template ?

On 14 February 2016 at 12:13,  wrote:

> On 2016-02-14 08:59, Michael Berger wrote:
>
>> Hi all, can somebody help, please!
>>
>> I am working on a thesis (linguistic) based on Miede's classicthesis.v4.1.
>> The Example per screenhot causes the compilation to PDF to run endlessly.
>> I cannot interrupt the process and am forced to cut the power off.
>> That makes it even worse - in most cases I am left with a spoiled file
>> (0 bites).
>> However, sometimes the file (a child document) remains intact and if I
>> then remove the example the export to PDF succeeds as normal.
>> All characters had been typed in using the keyboard.
>> I want to add that none of those characters used in the Example poses
>> a problem when typed in normal text or in a gloss as a single
>> character.
>>
>
> I can't tell you what's going on (aside from the fact that you've probably
> found a way to make TeX recurse or loop), but I'll bet that whoever _can_
> tell you what's going on will want to see the Lyx file that causes the
> problem.  Attach it, maybe?
>
> If the thing is huge or proprietary, try trimming your document down to
> the one offending equation.  That'll either provide a nice, compact Lyx
> file to distribute, or it won't cause the problem in the first place which
> will be usefully educational.
>
>


-- 
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada

Re: compilation runs endlosly

[tim]

On 2016-02-14 08:59, Michael Berger wrote:

Hi all, can somebody help, please!

I am working on a thesis (linguistic) based on Miede's 
classicthesis.v4.1.
The Example per screenhot causes the compilation to PDF to run 
endlessly.

I cannot interrupt the process and am forced to cut the power off.
That makes it even worse - in most cases I am left with a spoiled file
(0 bites).
However, sometimes the file (a child document) remains intact and if I
then remove the example the export to PDF succeeds as normal.
All characters had been typed in using the keyboard.
I want to add that none of those characters used in the Example poses
a problem when typed in normal text or in a gloss as a single
character.


I can't tell you what's going on (aside from the fact that you've 
probably found a way to make TeX recurse or loop), but I'll bet that 
whoever _can_ tell you what's going on will want to see the Lyx file 
that causes the problem.  Attach it, maybe?


If the thing is huge or proprietary, try trimming your document down to 
the one offending equation.  That'll either provide a nice, compact Lyx 
file to distribute, or it won't cause the problem in the first place 
which will be usefully educational.