Re: lambda > solved, but font question
On 2018-04-18, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> Am 18.04.2018 um 19:11 schrieb Guenter Milde:
>> On 2018-04-16, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
>>> Am 16.04.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
>>>> I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
>>>> \lambda_{max}=528nm
>>>> but get in the pdf output
>>>> ̆max = 528nm
>>>> why? (Debian stretch)
>> Can you test with View>Source whether the "mathpazo" package is used?
> I could, however, not find View>source, to check for mathpazo
> I am using Lyx2.3.0 Debian/TeXlive2017
> perhaps this is what you ment:
> Code-preview pane
Yes, the name was changed.
> it showed
> $\mathrm{\lambda_{max}=528nm}$
Now, if you change in the code preview the "viewport" (second drop-down list
on the left) from [Current Paragraph] to [Complete Source] or [Preamble
only], you will be able to see the LyX-written LaTeX preamble.
With Document>Settings>Fonts as
Roman: Palatino
SansDefault
TT Default
Math: Automatic
I get the preamble:
\documentclass[english]{article}
\usepackage{mathpazo}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage[latin9]{inputenc}
\usepackage{babel}
i.e. there is no need for
> \usepackage{mathpazo}
in the custom LaTeX preamble (Document>Settings>LaTeX Preamble).
>> You can also try with setting Fonts>Mathematics: Times Roman New TX
> I tried this, but \lambda is not shown
Now found the difference: You put \lambda in \mathrm.
Unfortunately, support for upright Greek letters in mathematics is
limited in traditional TeX. Standard TeX and most mathematical packages
use either italic Greek characters or a text font without Greek letters
with \mathrm. This is why you get an italic lambda with LatinModern or
Times but a wrong (text) character with Palatino.
For background and details, see
http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/isomath/isomath.html#oml-font-encoding
Do you really want an *upright* Lambda? This would indicate a
constant value or a physical unit (see, e.g.
http://old.iupac.org/standing/idcns/italic-roman_dec99.pdf).
If you put only the "max" and the unit into \mathrm, everything should be
fine (except for the missing space between value and unit).
Otherwise, see
http://mirrors.ctan.org/macros/latex/contrib/isomath/isomath.html#how-to-get-upright-small-greek-letters
for options to get upright Greek in 8-bit LaTeX maths or use non-TeX fonts
with Xe/LuaTeX.
regards,
Günter
Re: lambda > solved, but font question
Am 18.04.2018 um 19:11 schrieb Guenter Milde:
On 2018-04-16, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
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Am 16.04.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
\lambda_{max}=528nm
but get in the pdf output
̆max = 528nm
why? (Debian stretch)
Wolfgang
just changed the fonts in settings from
palatino
helvetica
computer modern typewriter
to computer modern, which displaces the \lambda correctly.
But I don't like the font too much. Any alternatives?
It works here LyX 2.2.2, Debian/TeXlive17, Palatino
Can you test with View>Source whether the "mathpazo" package is used?
Thanks for your help.
I could, however, not find View>source, to check for mathpazo
I am using Lyx2.3.0 Debian/TeXlive2017
perhaps this is what you ment:
Code-preview pane
it showed
$\mathrm{\lambda_{max}=528nm}$
I have added in document>settings
\usepackage{mathpazo}
but that did not help either.
Wolfgang
You can also try with setting Fonts>Mathematics: Times Roman New TX
I tried this, but \lambda is not shown
Wolfgang
Günter
Re: lambda > solved, but font question
On 2018-04-16, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 8bit --]
> Am 16.04.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
>> I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
>> \lambda_{max}=528nm
>> but get in the pdf output
>> ̆max = 528nm
>> why? (Debian stretch)
>> Wolfgang
> just changed the fonts in settings from
> palatino
> helvetica
> computer modern typewriter
> to computer modern, which displaces the \lambda correctly.
> But I don't like the font too much. Any alternatives?
It works here LyX 2.2.2, Debian/TeXlive17, Palatino
Can you test with View>Source whether the "mathpazo" package is used?
You can also try with setting Fonts>Mathematics: Times Roman New TX
Günter
Re: lambda
Beats me. I did a copy and paste of your code and it seems fine. Rather
elegant in fact.
I did the same in a text editor and $\lambda_{max}=528nm$ seems fine.
Ubuntu 16.04; LyX 2.3.0.
While we are not using Windows, I'd try the traditional Reboot (just
because it's MS) and see if it helps.
On 16 April 2018 at 04:06, Wolfgang Engelmann
wrote:
> I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
> \lambda_{max}=528nm
>
> but get in the pdf output
>
> ̆max = 528nm
>
> why? (Debian stretch)
>
> Wolfgang
>
--
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada
Re: lambda > solved, but font question
On 2018-04-16, Wolfgang Engelmann wrote:
> [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 8bit --]
> Am 16.04.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
>> I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
>> \lambda_{max}=528nm
>> but get in the pdf output
>> ̆max = 528nm
>> why? (Debian stretch)
>> Wolfgang
> just changed the fonts in settings from
> palatino
> helvetica
> computer modern typewriter
> to computer modern, which displaces the \lambda correctly.
> But I don't like the font too much. Any alternatives?
Many: see
http://milde.users.sourceforge.net/Matheschriften/matheschriften.html
For palatino, I recommend newtxmath.
Günter
Re: lambda > solved, but font question
Am 16.04.2018 um 10:06 schrieb Wolfgang Engelmann:
I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
\lambda_{max}=528nm
but get in the pdf output
̆max = 528nm
why? (Debian stretch)
Wolfgang
just changed the fonts in settings from
palatino
helvetica
computer modern typewriter
to computer modern, which displaces the \lambda correctly.
But I don't like the font too much. Any alternatives?
Wolfgang
lambda
I select in lyx (2.3.0) in math
\lambda_{max}=528nm
but get in the pdf output
̆max = 528nm
why? (Debian stretch)
Wolfgang
Re: Lambda not shown
Hello and a nice day, on 10.09.2013 09:42, Guenter Milde was writing: Examples for system fonts with a wide coverage including Greek are Free Serif, Linux Libertine, and Deja Vu. Another fine system font with a very good implementation of greek glyphs is Gentium. An example is attached. The german text is a cite from Benninghaus (1989). Günter Best regards Marcus References Benninghaus, Hans, 1989: Statistik für Soziologen 1. Deskriptive Statistik. (= Teubner Studienskripten 22) Stuttgart: Teubner -- PMs: m.gloe...@gmx.de luatex_unicode_gentium_lambda.lyx Description: application/lyx luatex_unicode_gentium_lambda.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: Lambda not shown
Hello and a nice day, on 10.09.2013 09:42, Guenter Milde was writing: Examples for system fonts with a wide coverage including Greek are Free Serif, Linux Libertine, and Deja Vu. Another fine system font with a very good implementation of greek glyphs is Gentium. An example is attached. The german text is a cite from Benninghaus (1989). Günter Best regards Marcus References Benninghaus, Hans, 1989: Statistik für Soziologen 1. Deskriptive Statistik. (= Teubner Studienskripten 22) Stuttgart: Teubner -- PMs: m.gloe...@gmx.de luatex_unicode_gentium_lambda.lyx Description: application/lyx luatex_unicode_gentium_lambda.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: Lambda not shown
Hello and a nice day, on 10.09.2013 09:42, Guenter Milde was writing: Examples for system fonts with a wide coverage including Greek are Free Serif, Linux Libertine, and Deja Vu. Another fine system font with a very good implementation of greek glyphs is Gentium. An example is attached. The german text is a cite from Benninghaus (1989). Günter Best regards Marcus References Benninghaus, Hans, 1989: Statistik für Soziologen 1. Deskriptive Statistik. (= Teubner Studienskripten 22) Stuttgart: Teubner -- PMs: m.gloe...@gmx.de luatex_unicode_gentium_lambda.lyx Description: application/lyx luatex_unicode_gentium_lambda.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Re: Lambda not shown
On 2013-09-09, =?utf-8?Q?Philipp_Gr=C3=B6ne?= wrote: [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --] Hello! Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are shown. The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I activated Non-Tex-Fonts in the Document-Options. If I don't do that, deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex. With non-TeX-fonts, there is no feedback whether a particular glyph is actually present in the font. As non-TeX-fonts are system fonts, you can use any font-viewing application to check the coverage. Many system fonts (including the LuaTeX/XeTeX default Latin Modern) do not include Greek characters (LM has only capital Greek chars). Examples for system fonts with a wide coverage including Greek are Free Serif, Linux Libertine, and Deja Vu. Günter
Re: Lambda not shown
On 2013-09-09, =?utf-8?Q?Philipp_Gr=C3=B6ne?= wrote: [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --] Hello! Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are shown. The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I activated Non-Tex-Fonts in the Document-Options. If I don't do that, deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex. With non-TeX-fonts, there is no feedback whether a particular glyph is actually present in the font. As non-TeX-fonts are system fonts, you can use any font-viewing application to check the coverage. Many system fonts (including the LuaTeX/XeTeX default Latin Modern) do not include Greek characters (LM has only capital Greek chars). Examples for system fonts with a wide coverage including Greek are Free Serif, Linux Libertine, and Deja Vu. Günter
Re: Lambda not shown
On 2013-09-09, =?utf-8?Q?Philipp_Gr=C3=B6ne?= wrote: > [-- Type: text/plain, Encoding: 7bit --] > Hello! > Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are > shown. > The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I > activated "Non-Tex-Fonts" in the Document-Options. If I don't do that, > deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex. With non-TeX-fonts, there is no feedback whether a particular glyph is actually present in the font. As "non-TeX-fonts" are system fonts, you can use any "font-viewing application" to check the coverage. Many system fonts (including the LuaTeX/XeTeX default Latin Modern) do not include Greek characters (LM has only capital Greek chars). Examples for system fonts with a wide coverage including Greek are Free Serif, Linux Libertine, and Deja Vu. Günter
Lambda not shown
Hello! Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are shown. The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I activated Non-Tex-Fonts in the Document-Options. If I don't do that, deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex. A minimal example is attached. I hope I provided all necessary information. Thanks in advance! Ph. Minimalnolambda.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Lambda not shown
Hello! Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are shown. The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I activated Non-Tex-Fonts in the Document-Options. If I don't do that, deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex. A minimal example is attached. I hope I provided all necessary information. Thanks in advance! Ph. Minimalnolambda.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
Lambda not shown
Hello! Lowercase-lambdas are not shown in my Lyx-documents. Uppercase Deltas are shown. The Preset I use is thesis (chapter-1 or chapter-2, does not matter). I activated "Non-Tex-Fonts" in the Document-Options. If I don't do that, deltas aren't shown, either. I use LuaTex. A minimal example is attached. I hope I provided all necessary information. Thanks in advance! Ph. Minimalnolambda.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
