Re: subversion books ?
On Mar 30, 2009, at 19:26, Bill Hernandez wrote: After trying to get subversion to work remotely via apache webdav and having dismal luck and many questions over the weekend, I went down to the local nerdbooks.com and bought three books this afternoon. They all had different aspects that I liked as I browsed through them, so instead of buying one as planned, I came home with three. But that's OK I'll read one and use the other two for reference. They (nerdbooks.com) do mostly all web based sales, but luckily they have a warehouse in Richardson, TX (Dallas area). I don't know how their prices compare, but they do technical books only, and they have the most incredible selection. I posted the book info here in case this is helpful to others The Pragmatic Programmers Pragmatic Version Control using Subversion ISBN : 0-9776166-5-7 Price : $34.95 Discount Price : $20.97 Bruce Perens Open Source Series Subversion Version Control ISBN : 978-0-13-185518-2 Price : $44.99 Discount Price : $26.54 O'Reilly Version Control with Subversion ISBN : 978-0-596-51033-6 Price : $39.99 Discount Price : $25.99 I've seen the Pragmatic book recommended many times on the Subversion Users list. And the O'Reilly book is of course the one that is written by the authors of Subversion and is available free online at http://svnbook.org/ You may also want to pass your recommendations on to the Subversion Users list. ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users
Re: subversion books ?
On Mar 31, 2009, at 6:32 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
On Mar 30, 2009, at 19:26, Bill Hernandez wrote:
After trying to get subversion to work remotely via apache webdav
and having dismal luck and many questions over the weekend, I went
down to the local nerdbooks.com and bought three books this
afternoon. They all had different aspects that I liked as I browsed
through them, so instead of buying one as planned, I came home with
three. But that's OK I'll read one and use the other two for
reference.
They (nerdbooks.com) do mostly all web based sales, but luckily
they have a warehouse in Richardson, TX (Dallas area).
I don't know how their prices compare, but they do technical books
only, and they have the most incredible selection.
I posted the book info here in case this is helpful to others
The Pragmatic Programmers
Pragmatic Version Control using Subversion
ISBN : 0-9776166-5-7
Price : $34.95
Discount Price : $20.97
Bruce Perens Open Source Series
Subversion Version Control
ISBN : 978-0-13-185518-2
Price : $44.99
Discount Price : $26.54
O'Reilly
Version Control with Subversion
ISBN : 978-0-596-51033-6
Price : $39.99
Discount Price : $25.99
I've seen the Pragmatic book recommended many times on the
Subversion Users list. And the O'Reilly book is of course the one
that is written by the authors of Subversion and is available free
online at http://svnbook.org/
You may also want to pass your recommendations on to the Subversion
Users list.
Ryan,
I was a little concerned about mentioning nerdbooks.com for fear that
it would get me in trouble. I understand that promoting any business
on a forum is not good thing, because it can get out of hand and after
a while people will try to push all kinds of businesses, but I've been
buying from nerdbooks for a couple of years, they have always been
great to work with, their service and pricing has always been great.
I thought that by listing the prices, any members of the forum who saw
the info might benefit from their great prices.
Last night I read the first 43 pages of 'Pragmatic Version Control
using Subversion, and the book is awesome. So far it has explained
part of the BIG picture very well. I can't wait to finish it...
The first 43 pages have already explained some of my basic questions,
some of which I have listed below. With any luck this book, and the
other two should help to answer a lot of my questions below...
For those of us who are not computer science majors all this stuff is
mostly foreign (buzzwords). When I tried getting involved with svn I
found mostly tutorials and information on how to setup a basic local
svn repository and use the commands, but nothing that really explained
the big picture, such as :
( 1 ) what components are required (clients, daemons, or servers, gui
interface, directories, data, etc) :
( a ) on the local machines ?
( b ) on the server ?
( c ) where do they, or where should they each get installed
(preferred locations) ?
( d ) what permissions do they need to in order to protect the
data from intrusion, and
( e ) still be accessible to the users, and
( f ) also accessible to the daemons/servers/clients ?
( g ) which method is best suited to remote repositories :
( 1 ) WebDav, or
( 2 ) something else ('svnserve' which I read about
yesterday as an alternative to WebDav) ?
( h ) how relatively secure can an average person make this
stuff without knowing about unix jails, etc ?
( i ) how risky is doing this without being a unix security
master guru ?
( 2 ) what's the difference between the :
( a ) trunk,
( b ) branches,
( c ) tags, etc. and
( d ) when do you use, or transition from one to another ?
( e ) what do they really mean ?
( f ) some of the articles mentioned a trunk, others never did ?
( g ) some articles mentioned import, add, create, and other
commands, but the overall strategy of how to design a successful
environment was not something I found ?
( i ) after trying to create a remote repository using a gui
client, and later
using bash $ 'svnadmin create
https://my-domain/path/2/my-repository'
over the weekend, I finally found one article mentioning
that svnadmin
cannot be used to create a remote repository, from which
I surmised,
that you have to issue that command on the remote
server, either
physically or perhaps via ssh.
( 3 ) what about checkout, merging, sandbox, workspace. I assume
(workspace == sandbox), etc.
( a ) must checkout location be the workspace (one workspace) ?
( 1 ) i.e. one physical folder where you check
everything in/out of,
( 2 ) so that the svn software (daemon/server/client/
etc) can keep track
of the changes
Re: subversion books ?
On Mar 31, 2009, at 3:21 PM, Bill Hernandez wrote: I was a little concerned about mentioning nerdbooks.com for fear that it would get me in trouble. I think you should have stuck with your first instinct the first post was borderline and the second post over the top in my opinion. Ben ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users
Re: subversion books ?
I've also got what I consider to be a normal person's guide to setting up and using SVN under Leopard if anyone wants. If you want, email me offline. Minimal terminal involved. On Mar 31, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Bill Hernandez wrote: On Mar 31, 2009, at 6:32 AM, Ryan Schmidt wrote: On Mar 30, 2009, at 19:26, Bill Hernandez wrote: After trying to get subversion to work remotely via apache webdav and having dismal luck and many questions over the weekend, I went down to the local nerdbooks.com and bought three books this afternoon. They all had different aspects that I liked as I browsed through them, so instead of buying one as planned, I came home with three. But that's OK I'll read one and use the other two for reference. They (nerdbooks.com) do mostly all web based sales, but luckily they have a warehouse in Richardson, TX (Dallas area). I don't know how their prices compare, but they do technical books only, and they have the most incredible selection. I posted the book info here in case this is helpful to others ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users
Re: subversion books ?
On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Ben Greenfield wrote: Talking about subversion is borderline topic but probably 95% of the people on the list are interested in the topic so it seems fine. Plugging books would be right on edge of the line, and I would say is trending towards bad taste. I owe nothing whatsoever to the vendor. I don't even know their names. They carry a huge selection of strictly programming and technical books, the largest I have ever seen in one location. Since this is a technical group, my goal was to pass on to the group a great place I had found, a place that perhaps they could benefit from. I have received great benefit from this forum, particularly the people that give so much of their time to less experienced people like myself, and have given little, or nothing in return. I saw this as a gesture to help the group, not to help any vendor. If you took it other than the way it was intended, I sincerely apologize. Most of the time I tend to repeat myself, ramble, make typos, usually because I type fast and poorly, and don't proof read to boot. It is later when I see the message as it returns,that I usually spot some huge grammar error. At that point I wish I could recall the message, but it's too late. It was not a well worded message, and I sent it, I looked for the recall button, but couldn't find it. The follow-up recommending a vendor to purchase the books I thought was over the top. It was however, sincerely meant as gesture of thanks. Sorry, you read something into it, that it was not... Bill Hernandez Plano, Texas ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users
Re: subversion books ?
On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Ben Greenfield wrote: Plugging books would be right on edge of the line I'm sorry, but I just have to disagree here, and strongly so. I've been a software engineer for twenty-one years. And for all that time, I have always felt that the very-most valuable investments that I ever made were the purchase of good technical books. Most coders might well argue that hardware and software tools were worth more than their books, but I have every reason to believe that I have gotten far more out of the books that I have purchased and read, than from any computer product I have ever purchased. For that reason, I feel that plugging books on a technical mailing list is, far from being on the edge of the line, in reality a valuable service to the community. Mike -- Michael David Crawford mdcrawford at gmail dot com GoingWare's Bag of Programming Tricks http://www.goingware.com/tips/ ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users
subversion books ?
After trying to get subversion to work remotely via apache webdav and having dismal luck and many questions over the weekend, I went down to the local nerdbooks.com and bought three books this afternoon. They all had different aspects that I liked as I browsed through them, so instead of buying one as planned, I came home with three. But that's OK I'll read one and use the other two for reference. They (nerdbooks.com) do mostly all web based sales, but luckily they have a warehouse in Richardson, TX (Dallas area). I don't know how their prices compare, but they do technical books only, and they have the most incredible selection. I posted the book info here in case this is helpful to others The Pragmatic Programmers Pragmatic Version Control using Subversion ISBN : 0-9776166-5-7 Price : $34.95 Discount Price : $20.97 Bruce Perens Open Source Series Subversion Version Control ISBN : 978-0-13-185518-2 Price : $44.99 Discount Price : $26.54 O'Reilly Version Control with Subversion ISBN : 978-0-596-51033-6 Price : $39.99 Discount Price : $25.99 Thanks to all those that help... Bill Hernandez Plano, Texas ___ macports-users mailing list macports-users@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macports-users
