Re: Recommendations for a keyboard for an iPad mini?

2024-04-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi Michael,

Yeah, I was at an Apple store recently looking at the Magic Keyboard.  Looks 
very nice.  I’d probably get the smaller one, because I don’t really have a 
need for the numberpad. I was thinking I’d either get that one or one of the 
Logitechs.  I don’t think I’ve seen the keys to go, but I will check it out.  
Thank you for the recommendation.
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 7, 2024, at 1:21 PM, Michael Irons  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna, one Bluetooth keyboard that you could get, that would probably work 
> could be the Apple Magic Keyboard. They sell it in the Apple store. I have an 
> iPad Pro, and I chose to get the larger Apple Magic Keyboard with the number 
> pad on it. This keyboard works with my iPad. I believe the only difference 
> between the iPad that I have in the one that you have is probably the size. 
> There are probably some other keyboards that would work, but the Apple magic 
> is the one that I know that works. If you wanted to look at other keyboards, 
> you could look at the logitech keys to go keyboard which they sell at Best 
> Buy. The logitech keys to go. Keyboard works with my iPhone, and, would 
> probably work with my iPad if I wanted to use that keyboard with it.  if you 
> have any questions, you’re welcome to email me off the list if you wish. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2024, at 10:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Subject says it all.  I need a keyboard for my iPad mini.  Appreciate any 
>> and all recommendations.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
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Re: Recommendations for a keyboard for an iPad mini?

2024-04-07 Thread Mary Otten 
Hi Donna,
I am probably one of the few who still likes full-size keyboards with lots of 
key travel and mechanical switches. To that end, I recently purchased a 
Logitech MX mechanical keyboard to use with my iPad mini. It is certainly 
larger than most. It has the full number pad. It has some spacing between the 
different sets of keys. It has the arrow keys with space around them so you can 
actually tell where and what they are. so it may not be for you. But it’s 
cheaper than the Apple keyboard for sure. I got it at Best Buy and I don’t 
remember what I paid, but I saw the Apple keyboards there and they were 
substantially more money.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2024, at 8:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi all,
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> Subject says it all.  I need a keyboard for my iPad mini.  Appreciate any and 
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> Cheers,
> Donna
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Recommendations for a keyboard for an iPad mini?

2024-04-07 Thread 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
Hi all,

Subject says it all.  I need a keyboard for my iPad mini.  Appreciate any and 
all recommendations.
Cheers,
Donna

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Re: Recommendations for a keyboard for an iPad mini?

2024-04-07 Thread Michael Irons 
Hi Donna, one Bluetooth keyboard that you could get, that would probably work 
could be the Apple Magic Keyboard. They sell it in the Apple store. I have an 
iPad Pro, and I chose to get the larger Apple Magic Keyboard with the number 
pad on it. This keyboard works with my iPad. I believe the only difference 
between the iPad that I have in the one that you have is probably the size. 
There are probably some other keyboards that would work, but the Apple magic is 
the one that I know that works. If you wanted to look at other keyboards, you 
could look at the logitech keys to go keyboard which they sell at Best Buy. The 
logitech keys to go. Keyboard works with my iPhone, and, would probably work 
with my iPad if I wanted to use that keyboard with it.  if you have any 
questions, you’re welcome to email me off the list if you wish. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 7, 2024, at 10:38 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> Subject says it all.  I need a keyboard for my iPad mini.  Appreciate any and 
> all recommendations.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Sonoma 14.4.1 CAPS LOCK won't pause speech when chosen as the VO key

2024-04-07 Thread Brad Snyder 
The VoiceOver key for pausing speech is the Control key.
This has nothing to do with what you have selected as the VO modifier.
While pressing another key may or may not stop speech, is another issue 
entirely.
You can test this by enabling Keyboard Help, by pressing VO + K, and pressing 
CTRL, to hear VoiceOver speak what this key does.

- Brad -



> On Apr 7, 2024, at 18:52, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
> 
> Guys,
> 
> I seldom post or visit here.  But here’s one where you all might have some 
> guidance for me.  I have an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.4.1.  I updated 
> from 14.3 point something.  Ever since 14.4.1, I’ve noticed that the CAPS 
> LOCK key will not pause speech in any Mac application.  Curiously, the 
> Control Key does pause speech, even when it is not part of the VO key.  That 
> is, when you choose CAPS LOCk exclusively, Control should not pause speech.  
> It does.  In no case will CAPS LOCK pause speech.  
> 
> I’ve tried this on my M1 and on my wife’s M1 with the same results.  My wife 
> is sighted and does not use VO.  She also does not have any unusual third 
> party apps like Sibelius that needs the CAPS LOCk for pause because it 
> highjacks the Control key to move the user between the ribbon and the musical 
> score you’re writing in.  
> 
> But both my wife and I have noticed the same behavior.  Another gentleman in 
> Germany has confirmed my findings.  He is a Sibelius user but says his CAPS 
> LOCk fails in Apple programs as well.  
> Again, any effort you could make to test this and let me know if CAPS lock 
> pauses VO speech would be very much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Re: Sonoma 14.4.1 CAPS LOCK won't pause speech when chosen as the VO key

2024-04-07 Thread Brad Snyder 
OK, I just started keyboard help, and I hear nothing when I press the CTRL key.
However, I have been using a Mac with VoiceOver everyday for over 13 years, and 
pressing the CTRL key is, and has always been the designated key for pausing 
speech when VoiceOver is running.

- Brad -



> On Apr 7, 2024, at 19:12, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> The VoiceOver key for pausing speech is the Control key.
> This has nothing to do with what you have selected as the VO modifier.
> While pressing another key may or may not stop speech, is another issue 
> entirely.
> You can test this by enabling Keyboard Help, by pressing VO + K, and pressing 
> CTRL, to hear VoiceOver speak what this key does.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2024, at 18:52, Kevin Gibbs  wrote:
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I seldom post or visit here.  But here’s one where you all might have some 
>> guidance for me.  I have an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.4.1.  I updated 
>> from 14.3 point something.  Ever since 14.4.1, I’ve noticed that the CAPS 
>> LOCK key will not pause speech in any Mac application.  Curiously, the 
>> Control Key does pause speech, even when it is not part of the VO key.  That 
>> is, when you choose CAPS LOCk exclusively, Control should not pause speech.  
>> It does.  In no case will CAPS LOCK pause speech.  
>> 
>> I’ve tried this on my M1 and on my wife’s M1 with the same results.  My wife 
>> is sighted and does not use VO.  She also does not have any unusual third 
>> party apps like Sibelius that needs the CAPS LOCk for pause because it 
>> highjacks the Control key to move the user between the ribbon and the 
>> musical score you’re writing in.  
>> 
>> But both my wife and I have noticed the same behavior.  Another gentleman in 
>> Germany has confirmed my findings.  He is a Sibelius user but says his CAPS 
>> LOCk fails in Apple programs as well.  
>> Again, any effort you could make to test this and let me know if CAPS lock 
>> pauses VO speech would be very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Kevin
>> 
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Sonoma 14.4.1 CAPS LOCK won't pause speech when chosen as the VO key

2024-04-07 Thread Kevin Gibbs 
Guys,

I seldom post or visit here.  But here’s one where you all might have some 
guidance for me.  I have an M1 MacBook Pro running Sonoma 14.4.1.  I updated 
from 14.3 point something.  Ever since 14.4.1, I’ve noticed that the CAPS LOCK 
key will not pause speech in any Mac application.  Curiously, the Control Key 
does pause speech, even when it is not part of the VO key.  That is, when you 
choose CAPS LOCk exclusively, Control should not pause speech.  It does.  In no 
case will CAPS LOCK pause speech.  

I’ve tried this on my M1 and on my wife’s M1 with the same results.  My wife is 
sighted and does not use VO.  She also does not have any unusual third party 
apps like Sibelius that needs the CAPS LOCk for pause because it highjacks the 
Control key to move the user between the ribbon and the musical score you’re 
writing in.  

But both my wife and I have noticed the same behavior.  Another gentleman in 
Germany has confirmed my findings.  He is a Sibelius user but says his CAPS 
LOCk fails in Apple programs as well.  
Again, any effort you could make to test this and let me know if CAPS lock 
pauses VO speech would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Kevin

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