Re: [maemo-developers] Alarm/wake-up?
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for not being able to update on this. Alarm/Notifier interface is now part of the roadmap. Exact delivery implementation schedule is difficult to say, but my guess would be around August/3Q time frame (maybe early access releases too :) very nice - i'm looking forward to this! Greetings Florian -- The dream of yesterday Florian Boor is the hope of todayTel: +49 271-771091-14 and the reality of tomorrow.Fax: +49 271-771091-19 [Robert Hutchings Goddard, 1904][EMAIL PROTECTED] 6C 44 30 4C 43 20 6B 61 16 07 0F AA E6 97 70 A8 ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Measuring power consumption of 770
Hi, On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 11:31 -0500, ext Larry Battraw wrote: I would advocate building a dummy battery out of a piece of wood/plastic with a small piece of copper clad board (split into three pads) to act as the contacts of the battery. You can then run wires from those to the real battery, passing it through whatever resistor/sensing equipment you want. As soon as you try measuring what goes into the DC jack you're then including whatever losses incurred by the DC-DC conversion from 5V to whatever used internally, as well as issues around having it potentially trying to charge the battery at the same time you're measuring. That, and Igor as much as said that things could behave differently based on whether it detects wall/DC power vs. battery power alone. Honestly, at this point you probably could have built a couple rigs for measuring power from the battery in all the time that has been spent discussing it. :-) Larry On 3/21/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I was not thinking about measuring at the mains plug. I was thinking about measuring at the n770 side (5V?) because it is a bit easier then opening the device and messing with battery pins. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers did anybody produce anything? I was hoping that the discussion would bring some interest to the fabulous world of power management also amongst other developers ... -- Cheers, Igor Igor Stoppa (Nokia M - OSSO / Tampere) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] hacking the app db on place by combining sdk and product image
Hi, What is the quick and cleanest way to hack the app db on place by combining sdk and product image? Thanks, -- Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] hacking the app db on place by combining sdk and product image
Philippe Laporte wrote: Hi, What is the quick and cleanest way to hack the app db on place by combining sdk and product image? Something about this in in the wiki, follow link in http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/4910 As you can see I already asked for this but got no answer. But somehow I expected there won't be any reply because even the changelogs for official firmwares are not available and few people asked for those too. Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
And several of us who work for Nokia have already told you, no such work around exists. If it did there would be no reason not to have it in the device already. Dealing with the costs of physically repairing a device would gladly be eliminated if there were a software fix. Unfortunately, when an LCD fails there is nothing that can be done except to replace it. So, for the last time, if it is broken, send it in for repair! Software updates can NOT fix it. Ed Hi, As you can see I nam fishing it for it. Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Briggs wrote: Ok. So, for the second time, what is the workaround? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philippe Laporte Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:11 AM To: maemo developers Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround Hi, What I mean to say is, it's a Hardware failure...but with a software workaround...so it's a software failure not to handle the potential hardware failure. But obviously the powers that be don't agree. I say put the code in the official kernel image... Or? Regards, ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
Hi, I'm not quite sure why you adopt such an antagonistic attitude. I would bet you 1000 Euros, and I am not rich, that the Nokia kernel team has a workaround patch. Even though my grand plan may be evasive to some, it should be obvious thta I am trying tyo pressure Nokia into allocating time to provide the code for the patch. The reason for not having it in the device: you are convinced that if any reason would exist, you would be personaly aware of it? The LCD hasn't failed. The reference here is http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första Långgatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ed Okerson wrote: And several of us who work for Nokia have already told you, no such work around exists. If it did there would be no reason not to have it in the device already. Dealing with the costs of physically repairing a device would gladly be eliminated if there were a software fix. Unfortunately, when an LCD fails there is nothing that can be done except to replace it. So, for the last time, if it is broken, send it in for repair! Software updates can NOT fix it. Ed Hi, As you can see I nam fishing it for it. Regards, Philippe Laporte Software Gatespace Telematics Första LÃ¥nggatan 18 41328 Göteborg Sweden Phone: +46 702 04 35 11 Fax: +46 31 24 16 50 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Briggs wrote: Ok. So, for the second time, what is the workaround? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philippe Laporte Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:11 AM To: maemo developers Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround Hi, What I mean to say is, it's a Hardware failure...but with a software workaround...so it's a software failure not to handle the potential hardware failure. But obviously the powers that be don't agree. I say put the code in the official kernel image... Or? Regards, ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
On ons, 2006-03-29 at 13:41 +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Hi, I'm not quite sure why you adopt such an antagonistic attitude. I would bet you 1000 Euros, and I am not rich, that the Nokia kernel team has a workaround patch. Yeah, because it's so much more profitable for Nokia to replace devices than provide a software fix. Ehrm. NOT. Just face it, you're off chart here. Even though my grand plan may be evasive to some, it should be obvious thta I am trying tyo pressure Nokia into allocating time to provide the code for the patch. The reason for not having it in the device: you are convinced that if any reason would exist, you would be personaly aware of it? The LCD hasn't failed. The reference here is http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot The article you reference to quite clearly says: If you get this, there is a hardware failure in your device and you need to return it and get a replacement -- VilleRanki That failure is probably not related to any software-actions. Displays like the one of the 770 tend to break at powerup. But if yours survived the first 5 or 10 times, it should survive the rest, too In other words, the display has the highest likelihood of breaking the first few times you power cycle the device. That's when most people (well, at least the developers) enable the RD mode. People see broken display, and draw the conclusion O, broken display when I enabled RD-mode, must be a software bug. This is incorrect reasoning though. The display is faulty, not the software. Bottom line: STOP TROLLING! Oh, and PLEASE don't top-post. Regards: David Weinehall (and YES, I work for Nokia/OSSO) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
Weinehall David (Nokia-M/Tampere) wrote: On ons, 2006-03-29 at 13:41 +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Hi, I'm not quite sure why you adopt such an antagonistic attitude. I would bet you 1000 Euros, and I am not rich, that the Nokia kernel team has a workaround patch. Yeah, because it's so much more profitable for Nokia to replace devices than provide a software fix. Ehrm. NOT. Just face it, you're off chart here. I give you a couple of days...keep working...until the guy who told there is a patch says there isn't I will stand by my ground. Even though my grand plan may be evasive to some, it should be obvious thta I am trying tyo pressure Nokia into allocating time to provide the code for the patch. The reason for not having it in the device: you are convinced that if any reason would exist, you would be personaly aware of it? The LCD hasn't failed. The reference here is http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot The article you reference to quite clearly says: If you get this, there is a hardware failure in your device and you need to return it and get a replacement -- VilleRanki That failure is probably not related to any software-actions. Displays like the one of the 770 tend to break at powerup. But if yours survived the first 5 or 10 times, it should survive the rest, too In other words, the display has the highest likelihood of breaking the first few times you power cycle the device. That's when most people (well, at least the developers) enable the RD mode. People see broken display, and draw the conclusion O, broken display when I enabled RD-mode, must be a software bug. This is incorrect reasoning though. The display is faulty, not the software. Bottom line: STOP TROLLING! You are out-of-context... Oh, and PLEASE don't top-post. What does that mean? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
On ons, 2006-03-29 at 14:06 +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: [snip] I give you a couple of days...keep working...until the guy who told there is a patch says there isn't I will stand by my ground. Looking forward to it. We could save a lot of money with such a fix. Oh, and PLEASE don't top-post. What does that mean? Top-posting means that you post the comment to a block of text before that block, which breaks the flow of thought when reading the email. Example: A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Regards: David ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Gecko based browser?
Yes, you have Manaos: http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2006/01/just-little-taste-of-manaos-update.html http://sourceforge.net/projects/manaos-gecko/ 2006/3/29, Prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, is there a gecko based browser for Maemo? was just looking for one... well wouldn't mind making one if it does not exist ;) Prasad ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers -- J. Manrique López de la Fuente http://www.jsmanrique.net msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
Hi, I'm not quite sure why you adopt such an antagonistic attitude. Because you have been told numerous times that what you are asking for simply does not exist. I would bet you 1000 Euros, and I am not rich, that the Nokia kernel team has a workaround patch. So how do you want to send me the money? Even though my grand plan may be evasive to some, it should be obvious thta I am trying tyo pressure Nokia into allocating time to provide the code for the patch. There is no such patch, nor will there ever be. If we could generate code that fixed faulty hardware the world would indeed be a better place, but unfortunately you cannot turn lead into gold either. The reason for not having it in the device: you are convinced that if any reason would exist, you would be personaly aware of it? Yes, I would. Since I am a Nokia developer on this device, and I personally had a proto with this exact failure. The fix was to replace the LCD. And it did not coincide with changing RD mode or any other significant event, it just went bad. It happens. The LCD hasn't failed. The reference here is http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot The LCD did fail. It just happend to occur when they were doing something else and they drew incorrect conclusions. Ed ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
Ed Okerson wrote: Hi, I'm not quite sure why you adopt such an antagonistic attitude. Because you have been told numerous times that what you are asking for simply does not exist. Still, you are not justified in your attitude. You should assume that I know something that I can't reveal...is that bad? I would bet you 1000 Euros, and I am not rich, that the Nokia kernel team has a workaround patch. So how do you want to send me the money? you'll still have to wait a bit so don't go spend it yet...:-) Even though my grand plan may be evasive to some, it should be obvious thta I am trying tyo pressure Nokia into allocating time to provide the code for the patch. There is no such patch, nor will there ever be. If we could generate code that fixed faulty hardware the world would indeed be a better place, but unfortunately you cannot turn lead into gold either. You will admit that some code can workaround some HW faults, no? The reason for not having it in the device: you are convinced that if any reason would exist, you would be personaly aware of it? Yes, I would. Since I am a Nokia developer on this device, and I personally had a proto with this exact failure. The fix was to replace the LCD. And it did not coincide with changing RD mode or any other significant event, it just went bad. It happens. Ok, so the reproducer is wrong. It does not mean that the workaround does not exist. The LCD hasn't failed. The reference here is http://www.maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot The LCD did fail. It just happend to occur when they were doing something else and they drew incorrect conclusions. Alright, bad word choice on my part, but see previous. Best Regards, Philippe ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 03:25:39PM +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Because you have been told numerous times that what you are asking for simply does not exist. Still, you are not justified in your attitude. You're the one with the attitude problem. If we say there is no magic display workaround, there isn't. Everything display-related has already been merged to the public linux-omap kernel tree. Feel free to dig in. Please shut up now. Cheers, Juha ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
Juha Yrjölä wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 03:25:39PM +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Because you have been told numerous times that what you are asking for simply does not exist. Still, you are not justified in your attitude. You're the one with the attitude problem. If we say there is no magic display workaround, there isn't. Everything display-related has already been merged to the public linux-omap kernel tree. Feel free to dig in. Please shut up now. Just because you want to cover your ass does not mean people have to shut up. At least not outside Nazi Germany... To help you out here I am currently having much more productive threads with more relevant people. I don't wanna continue this thread, but no one will say that I am bullshitting and get away with it. Leave Ed out of this. He's a reasonable person. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
Le mercredi 29 mars 2006 à 15:57 +0200, Philippe Laporte a écrit : Juha Yrjölä wrote: On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 03:25:39PM +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Because you have been told numerous times that what you are asking for simply does not exist. Still, you are not justified in your attitude. You're the one with the attitude problem. If we say there is no magic display workaround, there isn't. Everything display-related has already been merged to the public linux-omap kernel tree. Feel free to dig in. Please shut up now. Just because you want to cover your ass does not mean people have to shut up. At least not outside Nazi Germany... You've just won a Godwin Point. More informations are available on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law -- Frédéric Crozat ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 15:57 +0200, ext Philippe Laporte wrote: Just because you want to cover your ass does not mean people have to shut up. At least not outside Nazi Germany... *Bling* You won! [1] Really quickly, too! Cheers, Juha [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Building maemo from cvs
Is there any documentation anywhere about building (and using) maemo from svn, installed in a separate prefix, or should I start a new page on the maemo wiki? -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Building maemo from cvs
Is there any documentation anywhere about building (and using) maemo from svn, installed in a separate prefix, or should I start a new page on the maemo wiki? Along this track is there a apt where you can use a rawhide style system running the latest builds of maemo from svn? Peter ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Core-iSCSI/Nokia 770
Nicholas A. Bellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am very interested in hearing from voluenteers from the Maemo community who would be interested in developing a UI that makes script calls in order to control the core-iscsi (and eventually open-iscsi) stacks. When you say script calls, do you mean shell command line calls - and hence things that can be done from within a scripting language using system(2) ? If so, I'd be interested in doing this as a test case for my Guile packages, which wrap the Gtk and Hildon widget set on the 770. You may have been thinking of doing the interface in C, and not want to introduce further dependencies, and I can understand if that is the case. It could still be interesting to use my bindings to prototype and demonstrate the interface, and then convert it to C later. Regards, Neil ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Core-iSCSI/Nokia 770
Nicholas A. Bellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am very interested in hearing from voluenteers from the Maemo community who would be interested in developing a UI that makes script calls in order to control the core-iscsi (and eventually open-iscsi) stacks. I have a port of the OORexx scripting language http://www.oorexx.org/ and GTK dialog manager http://gtkrxdlg.sourceforge.net/ that I've been using for some of my own prototyping on the 770. I'll happily share if it's useful to anyone. Though Rexx doesn't seem to be a very popular language these days - young folks seem to prefer python, perl or java. Michael Saunby ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] 770 display failure workaround
This reminds me of a Computer Stupidities at Rinkworks.com: * Tech Support: Sir, something has burned within your power supply. * Customer: I bet that there is some command that I can put into the AUTOEXEC.BAT that will take care of this. * Tech Support: There is nothing that software can do to help you with this problem. * Customer: I know that there is something that I can put in...some command...maybe it should go into the CONFIG.SYS. Minutes later: * Tech Support: Ok, I am not supposed to tell anyone this but there is a hidden command in some versions of DOS that you can use. I want you to edit your AUTOEXEC.BAT and add the last line as C:\DOS\NOSMOKE and reboot your computer. Pause. * Customer: It is still smoking. * Tech Support: I guess you'll need to call Microsoft and ask them for a patch for the NOSMOKE.EXE. Four hours later, he calls back. * Tech Support: Hello sir, how is your computer? * Customer: I called Microsoft and they said that my power supply is incompatible with their NOSMOKE.EXE and that I need to get a new one. I was wondering when I can have that done? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Core-iSCSI/Nokia 770
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 19:28 +0100, Neil Jerram wrote: Nicholas A. Bellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am very interested in hearing from voluenteers from the Maemo community who would be interested in developing a UI that makes script calls in order to control the core-iscsi (and eventually open-iscsi) stacks. When you say script calls, do you mean shell command line calls - and hence things that can be done from within a scripting language using system(2) ? This is correct. There are currently two methods that Core-iSCSI can be controlled with: 1) via /etc/rc.d/init.d/initiator (ie: the script) 2) via /sbin/initiator-ctl (ie: the ioctl) The script reads in config data and then makes calls down to /sbin/initiator-ctl. The idea here is to hide the complexity of the day-to-day iSCSI admin operations inside of the script and allow for advanced users to call (or write additional programs/scripts around) /sbin/initiator-ctl. On a related note, one of the projects for the core-iscsi-tools package is to control Open/iSCSI via the same set of scripts and configuration files. The idea here is to allow Open/iSCSI and Core/iSCSI stacks to be interchangeable with a minimal amount of complexity exposed to the user. What this boils down to is that UI should use #1 above in order to keep future portability between stacks. Note that a full explanation of the script in question can be located in Section 3 of the HOWTO: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/storage/iscsi/HOWTO If so, I'd be interested in doing this as a test case for my Guile packages, which wrap the Gtk and Hildon widget set on the 770. You may have been thinking of doing the interface in C, and not want to introduce further dependencies, and I can understand if that is the case. It could still be interesting to use my bindings to prototype and demonstrate the interface, and then convert it to C later. This sounds great! I am not too stuck on the language or libraries that would be used. I will however mention that this UI would definately be used in the field on both existing and future devices, so keeping it portable between platforms will definately be a requirement. Thanks for your interest! :-) -- Nicholas A. Bellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Building deb packages for the Nokia 770 is very easy
Thanks for the page, very nice. But could you please extend the '...also simple to build one' section a bit more and write an idiot proof step by step command line series of what to do after you have a compiled an application running on the Nokia? I would greatly appreciate this as the complicated deb packaging is holding me back from making them. I really think your method is much easier than the dpkg-buildpackage approach. I have had problems with the regular building of packages with dpkg-buildpackage, etc. When I reach the ..as described in the new maintainer guide.. I get lost. Does any novice really find this guide useful? I also get lost in the but removing lots of stuff that the 770 doesn't need or can't handle because I do not know what the 770 cannot handle, unless I do trial and error (and of course that takes forever). By the way I am trying to build the deb packages for perl/PDL which should make the Nokia770 a powerful calculator with graphics. I already have the code running on the Nokia 770. Thanks, Xavier Calbet --- Armin M. Warda [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi, I added a HowTo to the Maemo Wiki: http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowTo_SimpleDeb regards, Armin. -- --- May the Source be with you! Linux. --- --- secure eMail: http://www.gnupg.de/ --- --- My Homepage http://armin-warda.de/ --- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers __ LLama Gratis a cualquier PC del Mundo. Llamadas a fijos y móviles desde 1 céntimo por minuto. http://es.voice.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] SDK upgrade failed
Hi, I, for example, use 127.0.0.1:2. Please, don't use the address part unless you're using the Xephyr/X server remotely. I have a vague recollection that using IP address instead of localhost is required for Xephyr et. al. to work properly. See: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=22#c1 - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Java Classpath AWT problems filed in gcc.gnu.org bugzilla
Hi, Follow the progress at: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26812 This has been closed as invalid i.e. being a Gtk/Cairo bug instead of Awt one. However, the links in the bug point to Cairo 256-color problems (including the Gtk bugzilla link), but N770 display is 16-bit, not 8-bit, and there's no Cairo in N770. I.e. to me the bug seems to be invalidated for a wrong reason, especially considering the original bugreport: --- since GTK_RGB thinks this is best (why do we ask GTK_RGB for the default pixmap depth and do not simply use the depth the screen is running?). But 770's X server has no colormap assigned to 24-bit mode so it asserts. Yes, I think we currently assume a 24-bit colormap in the GTK peers, which is wrong. I'd like to see this fixed. --- http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26848 This seems to have been accepted. :-) - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Building maemo from cvs
On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 18:45 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Is there any documentation anywhere about building (and using) maemo from svn, installed in a separate prefix, or should I start a new page on the maemo wiki? Along this track is there a apt where you can use a rawhide style system running the latest builds of maemo from svn? That'd be fantastic too. Like using either Ubuntu's Stable or Unstable repositories. I guess it would need resources though. If Nokia need a justification for this, it should be increased testing. It's great to hear almost immediately when your changes have broken something. Well, it's better than hearing about it later. -- Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] neat device
I got my nokia 770 the other day and love it. I have already started porting stuff and am happy to say my jhc haskell compiler can cross compile to maemo just fine. In any case, looking at the memory usage, hildon-input-method takes up a whopping 6.3 megs of real ram along with a decent chunk of x resources as reported by xrestop. This seems like an absurd amount for the little pretty cruddy (no offense) onscreen keyboard. it is the second largest user of memory after the desktop itself! So I whipped up a little X keyboard which uses a more reasonable tens of k of RAM, and want to know the absolute shortest path to replacing the built in input method with it. I know I have to create a gtk-immodule, but can't find documentation anywhere about how to do that or how to get rid of hildon-input-method once I create my gtk-immodule. I am very familier with low level X11 programming, but not so much with gtk specifics. Also, what keeps respawning the hildon-input-method? I can kill it remotely and bask in the extra 6 megs of RAM for a few seconds before it restarts without me ever trying to actually use the input method. in any case, neat device. I hope to modify my 'emap' program http://repetae.net/john/computer/emap/ to provide support for the fullscreen and menu buttons for arbitrary non-hildonized apps along with keyboard support as I often use it as an X terminal to run remote applications. emap also can figure out what program is currently running so you can have a custom keyboard layout for each program. (xterm in particular could benefit from a custom layout with nice big ^C and ^D buttons :) ) any pointers would be appreciated. John -- John Meacham - ⑆repetae.net⑆john⑈ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
