Re: [maemo-developers] libstdc++ version ???
5.0.5 Fred Antonio Gomes wrote: could someone check what's the version of the libstdc++ version on the newest maemo image ? ls -lah /usr/lib/libstdc++* is enough ;) thanks -- --Antonio Gomes ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...
Hi! For some time now I see power downs of the device for no reason. It seems to happen over night. When I come back next morning the device is full off, when pressing the power button it starts to boot normally. The battery has never been the fault (i.e. not empty). Yesterday it happened again and I had to remove the battery before it started to switch on / boot again. I am wondering if this is a hardware or software fault? Does anybody else see this happening? Are there any hints on what might be tha cause? And especially if this can be fixed? Cheers nils faerber -- kernel concepts Tel: +49-271-771091-12 Dreisbachstr. 24 Fax: +49-271-771091-19 D-57250 Netphen Mob: +49-176-21024535 -- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
[maemo-developers] Bugzilla annoyances or we at nokia don't have a 770
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, During the last few days people have voiced their annoyance with how nokia handles maemo bugs. Please take a look at the responses from Maemo QA in the following bugs: https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=184 https://maemo.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=264 Don't you have a 770 with the latest consumer firmware at nokia to test it yourselves? And more importantly, why is it taking so long to ship a firmware with working timezone for places other than Helsinki? slightly annoyed, Koen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEV12wMkyGM64RGpERAu2vAJ9/ncHhKr91ETYZJCbLtYZJjTkrLwCgrmE1 zEu5NGxy2vQEksr7wai5MrY= =Es6S -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Frustrating power downs...
I am wondering if this is a hardware or software fault? Does anybody else see this happening? Are there any hints on what might be tha cause? And especially if this can be fixed? I too have seen mysterious power downs. So far I haven't been able to detect a pattern. Sometimes I've plugged it in to recharge and when I came back and opened the cover it had powered down. I wonder if a surge or static shock might cause it in this case, but other times I've just found it in the off state when I know I left it on, and the batter still had a charge. -- Chris Bare [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining
On 4/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no offense, it always look simpler from the other side. Developing and bringing a product to market (in all my experience) is no simple task combine that with new challenges working with open source, and OS communities, new processes and at the same time building a truely open product. I am not saying we havnt and we will not make mistakes (maybe we will), but we are ready to listen and willing to learn. And as i see right now, I am ready to take small baby steps and disappoint few than going grand. There is a natural order of things, and lot what you suggested would/may happen but lets take patience as a virtue. As your rightly said, its about expectation management :) cheers Devesh Well, since you brought up truely open product and expectation management, what are Nokia's expectations about when the 770 will be a truely open product (i.e., I can run all free software on the device without losing any functionality)? This has been the #1 reason why the device has mostly sat unused in my house rather than constantly traveling with me and sucking up a lot of my time. I honestly expected based on Nokia's (admittedly limited) advanced advertising of the product that that would be the case immediately, rather than at some unspecified point in the future. Dave ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: End User Software Agreement
On 4/21/06, Jerry Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/06, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This may be because of closed source software (i.e. the Opera web browser) included into the firmware bin image. All fine and dandy, except the agreement makes no provisions for the differing licenses. The GPL and LGPL gives me explicit legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify those libraries and programs, whether sources or in object code. The agreement is trying to restrict what I can do with the GPL and LGPL software in this compressed image, which is a breach of those licenses. Sure it does; the mere aggregation clause. Your rights with regard to the bin image are different than your rights with regard to the entire work (the compilation that the bin image represents). Dave ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: [maemo-developers] Re: End User Software Agreement
On 5/2/06, Dave Neuer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/06, Jerry Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/06, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, This may be because of closed source software (i.e. the Opera web browser) included into the firmware bin image. All fine and dandy, except the agreement makes no provisions for the differing licenses. The GPL and LGPL gives me explicit legal permission to copy, distribute and/or modify those libraries and programs, whether sources or in object code. The agreement is trying to restrict what I can do with the GPL and LGPL software in this compressed image, which is a breach of those licenses. Sure it does; the mere aggregation clause. Your rights with regard to the bin image are different than your rights with regard to the entire work (the compilation that the bin image represents). Ugh. I meant your rights WRT the _components_ of the bin image are different than your rights WRT the whole. Dave ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
RE: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of ext Dave Neuer Sent: 02 May, 2006 21:07 To: maemo-developers@maemo.org Subject: Re: [maemo-developers] Too busy to accept help? I'm not complaining On 4/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no offense, it always look simpler from the other side. Developing and bringing a product to market (in all my experience) is no simple task combine that with new challenges working with open source, and OS communities, new processes and at the same time building a truely open product. I am not saying we havnt and we will not make mistakes (maybe we will), but we are ready to listen and willing to learn. And as i see right now, I am ready to take small baby steps and disappoint few than going grand. There is a natural order of things, and lot what you suggested would/may happen but lets take patience as a virtue. As your rightly said, its about expectation management :) cheers Devesh Well, since you brought up truely open product and expectation management, what are Nokia's expectations about when the 770 will be a truely open product (i.e., I can run all free software on the device Maemo 2.0 would take it closer, with real package management. It is even today an open product, you can get root and install whatever you want today :) but remember the hardware limitations of the device itself :) without losing any functionality)? can you be more specific ??? Devesh This has been the #1 reason why the device has mostly sat unused in my house rather than constantly traveling with me and sucking up a lot of my time. I honestly expected based on Nokia's (admittedly limited) advanced advertising of the product that that would be the case immediately, rather than at some unspecified point in the future. Dave ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers