Re: [maemo-developers] Sardine is back

2006-11-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
 Sardine is back. The Sardine distro was restarted with the newer
 Maemo 
 2.1 baseline and an older glib. 
[snip]

What exactly should we now have in our sources.list to use sardine?
 
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Re: [maemo-developers] Sardine is back

2006-11-25 Thread Carlos Guerreiro

ext Murray Cumming wrote:

On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
  

Sardine is back. The Sardine distro was restarted with the newer
Maemo 
2.1 baseline and an older glib. 


[snip]

What exactly should we now have in our sources.list to use sardine?
 
  

deb http://repository.maemo.org sardine main non-free

That's all. Sardine is self-contained. It includes the Maemo 2.1 baseline.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Sardine is back

2006-11-25 Thread Murray Cumming
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 14:04 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
 ext Murray Cumming wrote:
  On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:

  Sardine is back. The Sardine distro was restarted with the newer
  Maemo 
  2.1 baseline and an older glib. 
  
  [snip]
 
  What exactly should we now have in our sources.list to use sardine?
   

 deb http://repository.maemo.org sardine main non-free
 
 That's all. Sardine is self-contained. It includes the Maemo 2.1 baseline.

Thanks. And a similar deb-src line can be added too.

I'm currently getting this error with dist-upgrade:

The following packages have unmet dependences:
  libx11-dev: Depends: xtrans-dev but it is not installed

I know you said we might need to trash our targets and create them again
(upgrading from Maemo 2.1?), but I'd like to avoid that if I can.

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Re: [maemo-developers] xournal mime-type

2006-11-25 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
Hi Jorge

On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 08:47:40AM +0100, Jorge Salamero Sanz wrote:
 i'm trying to define application/xoj so xournal can open *.xoj files from 
 file 
 manager.
[ correct actions are skipped ]

Everything you've done is correct :)  The only missing part is the
application change.  You must register a mime callback using

  osso_mime_set_cb

Please see http://maemo.org/platform/docs/api/libosso/html/group__MIME.html for 
details.

Kind Regards

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[maemo-developers] Re: xournal mime-type

2006-11-25 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi,

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 08:47:40 +0100, Jorge Salamero Sanz wrote:
[...]
 now when i click on an xoj file, xournal opens but it's shown a new untitled 
 file. do you know what's wrong ?

Maemo has a weird optimization that ensures that there is only one process
running of an application.

Basically it means that main() is entered once, and you mainloop there.

Once you click on a file in file manager, a callback in your process will
be called (mime_cb) with argv[] (NOT main).
If you click on another file in file manager, a callback in your process
will be called (mime_cb) with argv[] (NOT main).
And so on :)

(all this is done using dbus)

see: 
http://groups.google.com/group/fbreader/browse_thread/thread/04d4d4977b472692/f264a79d973449d6?lnk=raot

cheers,
  Danny

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added

2006-11-25 Thread Frantisek Dufka
I have added source diff for newer kernel to 
http://fanoush.webpark.cz/maemo/#mmcplus

It contains also code multiblock writes but disabled.

Frantisek
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: Re: RE: Re: Please include osso-media.server ogg probs

2006-11-25 Thread Stefan Kost
Hi Danny,

 Hi,

 On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:47:11 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
   
 On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 22:42 +, ext Danny Milosavljevic wrote:
 
 configure: error: no gstreamer-0.10 = 0.10.10.1 (GStreamer) found
   
 Any particular reason you're checking against a version that has not
 been released yet even in upstream?

 Did you mean gstreamer-0.10 = 0.10.1 ?
 

 'I' am checking? :) Well, Andrea said to use the latest version from CVS
 of gst-plugins-bad, which I did, which did that.

 I guess I should backtrack cvs to an earlier version, but I'm not sure
 whether that will work. 
 Or should I update _all_ of gstreamer to current cvs?
   
That bad :( Two ideas though:
* find the revision where the ivorbisfile has been changed last and use
that one
  http://webcvs.freedesktop.org/gstreamer/gst-plugins-bad/ext/ivorbis/
* build whole gst and replace files on the device.

I would go for the first option :)

Stefan/ensonic



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Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset?

2006-11-25 Thread Stefan Kost
Hi George,

George Farris wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-23-11 at 20:31 +0200, Stefan Kost wrote:
   
 Hi George,

 George Farris wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2006-14-11 at 18:42 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
   
   
 On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 09:50 -0800, ext George Farris wrote:
 
 
 On Mon, 2006-13-11 at 11:47 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
   
   
 Here is a list of issues raised on this list I think have not been
 concluded so far, in no particular order. The easiest way to get off the
 list is to provide answers, but you can also try convincing me other
 ways.
 
 
 Please also include working Bluetooth headset support or lack there of.
 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothHeadset
   
   
 Please try to phrase it as a question, the more specific the better (I
 don't really have any clue about Bluetooth and related issues.) To me it
 seems somewhat like an advertisement for a howto or something, which I
 don't believe is what you mean.


 
 
 Well from the web page in the link:

 Note: It appears that, due to limitations in Nokia's current Bluetooth
 driver on the 770, you can not actually use a bluetooth headset.
 Everything will appear to work, except that you won't get any audio out:
 [WWW]http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2005-December/002191.html

 Please provide a working driver for bluetooth audio, both in and out.
   
   
 Please consider that we are not stupid. If it would be that easy we
 would have done it. Having working bluetooth headset support is so dead
 obviously useful, that it is impossible that we have overlooked it. Have
 you ever tried to get it running under linux? Yes it needs work. So
 please be patient, its done when its done. If you want to speed it up,
 join the bluez guys and help them out.
 

 I'm sorry, did I insult someone here?  I didn't think so.  I merely
 provided data and a link reference.  I at no time suggested or made any
 personal or derogatory comments.  

 You, said you didn't have any clue about bluetooth and I merely pointed
 you to the information, which is what I thought you wanted.  In fact I
 treated you with competence and intelligence to read the information and
 go from there.
   
Then I am sorry. The Please provide a working driver for bluetooth
audio, both in and out. phrase is a bit demanding and I thought ti can
from you.

Stefan

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Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset?

2006-11-25 Thread Stefan Kost
Hi George,
 On Thu, 2006-23-11 at 17:55 +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
   
 On Mon, 2006-11-20 at 15:13 +0200, ext Tommi Komulainen wrote:
 
   * 
 http://maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2006-November/006248.html
 Bluetooth headset?
 
 What are [we] doing to enable support for bluetooth headsets?
   
 We don't have concrete plans at the moment. Please bring this up after
 next release, in case we forget it.


 

 There have already been requests for the last three releases.  Is there
 no way to push this forward a step so we can get this support in for the
 NEXT release?
   

To make it a bit more clear: If there are plans, we would not be allowed
to talk about it :(. So you'll have to wait. But be assured it if is
technically doable its quite likly that we are going to support it. Now
please let it rest.

Stefan
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Re: [maemo-developers] Sardine is back

2006-11-25 Thread Carlos Guerreiro

ext Murray Cumming wrote:

On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 14:04 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
  

ext Murray Cumming wrote:


On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 22:58 +0200, Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
  
  

Sardine is back. The Sardine distro was restarted with the newer
Maemo 
2.1 baseline and an older glib. 



[snip]

What exactly should we now have in our sources.list to use sardine?
 
  
  

deb http://repository.maemo.org sardine main non-free

That's all. Sardine is self-contained. It includes the Maemo 2.1 baseline.



Thanks. And a similar deb-src line can be added too.

I'm currently getting this error with dist-upgrade:

The following packages have unmet dependences:
  libx11-dev: Depends: xtrans-dev but it is not installed

I know you said we might need to trash our targets and create them again
(upgrading from Maemo 2.1?), but I'd like to avoid that if I can.

  
I'm working on documenting the installation procedure. Need to finish 
that soon.


But basically:

In scratchbox:
- apt-get install hildon-application-framework
- apt-get upgrade

In the device:
- apt-get install hildon-application-framework
- apt-get upgrade
- some packages are held back. You need to install them manually with 
'apt-get install'



The xtrans-dev issue is probably due to packaging problem which I hope 
will be fixed soon.
Basically xtrans-dev replaces libxtrans-dev but unfortunately it is not 
conflicting with it.
If you install the hildon-application-framework metapackage it will take 
care of removing the old one

so that problem doesn't hit you.

In your case try removing libxtrans-dev manually.

Otherwise try to find out more by trying xtrans-dev by hand.

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Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset?

2006-11-25 Thread George Farris
On Sat, 2006-25-11 at 18:31 +0200, Stefan Kost wrote:
 Hi George,
 
 Then I am sorry. The Please provide a working driver for bluetooth
 audio, both in and out. phrase is a bit demanding and I thought ti can
 from you.

Hi Stefan,
Yes, in fact that was me but I thought that was what you wanted.  It was
a statement of requirements and in no way was meant to be demanding.
Language is great isn't it, wonder how many wars centuries ago were
started because of it:-)  I think I was a bit confused about what you
actually were after, once I sent you the link.  Ah well, it's the
weekend here and we're off for a hike, first nice weather for over a two
weeks, been raining like there is no tomorrow.

Cheers

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Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset?

2006-11-25 Thread George Farris
On Sat, 2006-25-11 at 18:34 +0200, Stefan Kost wrote:
 Hi George,

 To make it a bit more clear: If there are plans, we would not be allowed
 to talk about it :(. So you'll have to wait. But be assured it if is
 technically doable its quite likly that we are going to support it. Now
 please let it rest.

Interesting, this suggests you are somehow or other connected with
Nokia, I wasn't aware of that.

Cheers

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[maemo-developers] Re: RE: sorry, i forgot the title, it's a newbie question(no new mesage in here)

2006-11-25 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:13:57 +0900, 박영훈 wrote:

Hello all,

 suddenly I received it from my boss to test our application

Make sure it uses the current firmware release.

Check Control panel  Device  About Product.

It should be Version 2.2006.39-14.

If not, get http://www.maemo.org/downloads/nokia_770

and get the flasher program from
http://maemo.org/downloads/d3.php

Note that device needs to be turned off before flashing. 
See the wiki
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/  ,
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux


 So I installed Debian 2.6.8 and checked 770 detected as a USB storage
 disk

What it detects is the MMC card inserted into the lower right edge of the
device. You don't have remote access to the root tree.
I do use it for uploading files though.

The Nokia 770 file manager has a very dumbed-down interface (sigh...)
so the only way to do something useful [as a programmer] with the device
is to install:

1) A terminal: osso-xterm-advanced:
http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/pool/main/o/osso-xterm/osso-xterm_0.13.mh13_armel.deb

(Don't use the non-advanced version, backspace key is broken there)

2) A ssh server: dropbear:
http://www.komputika.net/maemo/index.php?dir=file=dropbear_0.48-0.1_armel.deb

Note that after installing ssh, drop your ssh public key into
/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys on the device (I usually have to use
the browser on the device to download my public key from my homepage -
after all, its _public_ :) - and then use xterm to put the file there...
yeah, that sucks).

Then you can log in from your PC by doing
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the IP is assigned by the router DHCP and can be
seen in the terminal - ifconfig wlan0)

Then log in to the device and then do: passwd -l root in order to
disallow direct root logins. Details see wiki.

A list of applications is there:

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

 I think I must setting up usbnet function 

I don't really know about usbnet. Note that the Nokia 770 has wireless
networking out of the box. Much easier when you have a wireless access
point somewhere :) (just click the little globe at the top right screen
corner)

So I didn't have a need for usbnet yet :)

Note that in order to become root, you have to 
1) set the device in RD mode and
2) call sudo gainroot in ssh or xterm

For 1) do: 
./flasher --enable-rd-mode --reboot on your PC with the Nokia 770
connected via the USB cable. Note that device needs to be turned off
before flashing. See the wiki http://maemo.org/maemowiki/  ,
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux

Hope that helps.

[
Dear Nokia, could we automate
1) uploading an ssh key
2) obtaining the IP address

For 2) does it announce availability via rendevouz-like stuff? Then
nevermind. 
ssh key management would still be nice. Hmm... I smell my next project.
]

cheers,
  Danny

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Re: [maemo-developers] Bluetooth headset?

2006-11-25 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Saturday 25 November 2006 19:05, George Farris wrote:

 On Sat, 2006-25-11 at 18:34 +0200, Stefan Kost wrote:
  Hi George,
 
  To make it a bit more clear: If there are plans, we would not be allowed
  to talk about it :(. So you'll have to wait. But be assured it if is
  technically doable its quite likly that we are going to support it. Now
  please let it rest.

 Interesting, this suggests you are somehow or other connected with
 Nokia, I wasn't aware of that.

Yes, I also noticed that only recently as there's Stefan's name in the
copyright statements from the now available sources of Nokia 770 
gstreamer plugins. Now the previous Stefan's posts look in a bit 
different light to me and that's a good thing.

I guess, we are just spoiled by the fact that many (almost all?) Nokia
developers here have '@nokia.com' in their e-mail address :)
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: RE: sorry, i forgot the title, it's a newbie question(no new mesage in here)

2006-11-25 Thread Ralph Giles
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 05:38:34PM +, Danny Milosavljevic wrote:

 (Don't use the non-advanced version, backspace key is broken there)

Hmm. Works for me.

 Dear Nokia, could we automate
 1) uploading an ssh key
 2) obtaining the IP address
 
 For 2) does it announce availability via rendevouz-like stuff? Then
 nevermind. 

It announces the hostname (which isn't what you get from the hostname 
shell command, btw) in the dhcp request, so if it's easier to check your 
router's dhcp table, or it it does internal dynamic dns, you can get the 
IP that way.

It doesn't do mdns hostname advertisement though. Someone should package 
avahi.

The IPHome home (desktop) applet is also useful for getting the IP 
address.

  http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/

FWIW,
 -r
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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added

2006-11-25 Thread Larry Battraw

 Thanks Frantisek!  As a data point, I've tried the multiblock write
kernel with a Kingston 1GB card and experienced consistent crashes
(probably due to swap file corruption) using it.  The high-speed mmc
version of the kernel you provided doesn't seem to have such issues.

Larry

On 11/25/06, Frantisek Dufka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have added source diff for newer kernel to
http://fanoush.webpark.cz/maemo/#mmcplus
It contains also code multiblock writes but disabled.

Frantisek

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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: high speed (52/48Mhz) MMC mode added

2006-11-25 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Larry Battraw wrote:

 Thanks Frantisek!  As a data point, I've tried the multiblock write
kernel with a Kingston 1GB card and experienced consistent crashes
(probably due to swap file corruption) using it.  The high-speed mmc
version of the kernel you provided doesn't seem to have such issues.

Larry


Hmm, that's bad. It works for me with Kingston 2GB and I have whole 
system on MMC. Also tried to stress swap (evince is good for filling 
whole swap :-) and did not notice anything. Anyone else with Kingston 
1GB can confirm this too?


I think multiblock writes are enabled on omap in newer kernels but the 
mmc layer have some changes for this. Still following code in 2.6.16 
mmc_block.c led me to conclusion that it is safe even in older kernel.


 cmd_err:
mmc_card_release_host(card);

/*
 * This is a little draconian, but until we get proper
 * error handling sorted out here, its the best we can
 * do - especially as some hosts have no idea how much
 * data was transferred before the error occurred.
 */
spin_lock_irq(md-lock);
do {
ret = end_that_request_chunk(req, 0,
req-current_nr_sectors  9);
} while (ret);


I thought this pessimistic code means whole write operation fails (so 
there is no silent data corruption). Would be nice if you could test 
without swap and do some massive writes if you get i/o errors or not. 
True that I/O error while swapping may be fatal in any case.


Frantisek

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[maemo-developers] DUN and Verizon Razr V3m phone

2006-11-25 Thread aacosse
Hello,
 
I'm wondering if anyone had any luck getting DUN to work with a Verizon Razr 
V3m phone.
This phone was modified according to guides found on http:\\www.hacktherarz.com 
and DUN and this phone works very well on a Windows XP platform.
My Nokia 770 is able to recognize my phone and the Razr is trying to make the 
dialup connection, but there it stops.
Are there any additional settings needed on the nokia 770 to have same DUN 
success as via WinXp?
 
Thanks.
 
 
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