Re: [maemo-developers] maemo mplayer development and its possible future use on Nokia 770

2006-12-11 Thread Frantisek Dufka

Siarhei Siamashka wrote:

Surely all
these problems can be fixed by implementing hybrid x11/framebuffer code 
where x11 is responsible for keyboard input and sets video mode so that no

other application draws over a screen area used by mplayer.


Yes, the result would look like video overlay works in windows or linux 
on PC - overlay draws over different windows when it shouldn't :-) We 
can live with that. As for framebuffer permissions, it may be better to 
relax device permissions than to run mplayer as root.


I needed a confirmation that Epson chip supports only packed 
YUV formats and no planar formats are really available


Well, the conversion is done on the fly while the data is transferred to 
internal epson video buffer. I guess it would be hard to do planar YUV 
- RGB without additional memory. I still don't understand how it is 
done on the fly even in those packed formats since some color 
information (U,V) is common for more lines. Seems like tough task. There 
needs to be additional memory for remembering U,V parts from previous line.




Another interesting possibility is to relay video scaling and color conversion
(planer - packed YUV) to DSP.


I'm not sure, is there some math involved in this or it is just memory 
shuffling? I guess DSP would be really bad for memory shuffling. From 
previous discussions it looks like when you add DSP to the mix all kinds 
of bottlenecks appears. I wonder if gstreamer/dspfbsink could keep up 
with mplayer speed doing just conversion and video output.


Oh BTW, it is off topic but I finally found what that cryptic 'Video 
hardware accelerators for DCT, iDCT, pixel interpolation, and motion 
estimation for video compression' feature on OMAP 1710 page means. Looks 
like the DSP really has some special instructions for performing those 
operations, google for spru098.pdf It is sad that default video player 
is still so bad with such features implemented in hardware.


Frantisek
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[maemo-developers] apt-get problem

2006-12-11 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laaoide

Hi,

I try and keep my 770 up to date and apparently it got me screwed ...

whenever I try apt-get update (from the command line or through the 
Application Manager) I get a
Connecapt-get: Symbol lookup error : 
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: undefined symbol: _ZN11Globa


any idea of what recent update could have updated this lib ?
What version do you have ?

Any idea on how I could get out of this ?

Thanks

Fred
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Re: [maemo-developers] apt-get problem

2006-12-11 Thread Marius Vollmer
ext Fred Lefévère-Laaoide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 whenever I try apt-get update (from the command line or through the
 Application Manager) I get a
 Connecapt-get: Symbol lookup error :
 /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: undefined symbol: _ZN11Globa

That looks more like some kind of file corruption to me since the
symbol name is not complete.  Or did you truncate the error message
somehow?

 any idea of what recent update could have updated this lib ?

What repositories do you use?

 What version do you have ?
 Any idea on how I could get out of this ?

Try to install the apt package again with dpkg.  That is, download
it from mistral or scirocco directly, and use dpkg --install ... to
install it.

(I would have to do some digging to tell you the exact version numbers
you should be using...)
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Re: [maemo-developers] apt-get problem

2006-12-11 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide

Marius Vollmer wrote:

ext Fred Lefévère-Laaoide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


whenever I try apt-get update (from the command line or through the
Application Manager) I get a
Connecapt-get: Symbol lookup error :
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: undefined symbol: _ZN11Globa


That looks more like some kind of file corruption to me since the
symbol name is not complete.  Or did you truncate the error message
somehow?

I didn't truncate the message.



any idea of what recent update could have updated this lib ?


What repositories do you use?


I copied apt-get update output at the end of this mail.

What version do you have ?
Any idea on how I could get out of this ?


Try to install the apt package again with dpkg.  That is, download
it from mistral or scirocco directly, and use dpkg --install ... to
install it.

(I would have to do some digging to tell you the exact version numbers
you should be using...)


I'll have a look and try it ...

Thanks
O Fred

apt-get update :


/home/user # apt-get update
Ign http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de mistral Release.gpg
Get:1 http://ww.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de mistral Release
Hit http://ww.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Release
Get:2 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Get:3 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://repository.maemo.org mistral Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org scirocco Release.gpg
Hit http://downloads.kernelconcepts.de mistral/free Packages
Ign http://jonek.hexbox.de mistral Release.gpg
Ign http://hl.homelinux.org maemo/ Release.gpg
Ign http://eko.one.pl mistral Release.gpg
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release
Hit http://jonek.hexbox.de mistral Release
Ign http://people.freedesktop.org mistral Release.gpg
Ign http://hl.homelinux.org maemo/ Release
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release
Hit http://eko.one.pl mistral Release
Ign http://openbossa.indt.org scirocco Release.gpg
Hit http://jonek.hexbox.de mistral/user Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org mistral Release
Hit http://hl.homelinux.org maemo/ Packages
Hit http://eko.one.pl mistral/user Packages
Ign http://people.freedesktop.org mistral Release
Ign http://scriptkiller.de mistral Release.gpg
Get:4 http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://bgran.net mistral Release.gpg
Hit http://repository.maemo.org scirocco Release
Ign http://openbossa.indt.org scirocco Release
Ign http://www.mulliner.org maemo2 Release.gpg
Hit http://people.freedesktop.org mistral/user Packages
Hit http://www.mulliner.org maemo2 Release
Hit http://repository.maemo.org mistral/free Packages
Hit http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release
Ign http://bgran.net mistral Release
Ign http://scriptkiller.de mistral Release
Hit http://openbossa.indt.org scirocco/user Packages
Hit http://www.mulliner.org maemo2/free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org mistral/non-free Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/free Packages
Hit http://bgran.net mistral/user Packages
Ign http://home.ufam.edu.br mistral/ Release.gpg
Hit http://scriptkiller.de mistral/main Packages
Hit http://repository.maemo.org scirocco/non-free Packages
Ign http://marceloeduardo.com mistral Release.gpg
Ign http://marceloeduardo.com mistral Release
Hit http://marceloeduardo.com mistral/games Packages
Ign http://home.ufam.edu.br mistral/ Release
99% [Release gpgv 730] [Waiting for headers] [Connecting to 
armin-warda.de]apt-get: symbol lookup error: 
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: undefined symbol: _ZN11Globa


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Re: [maemo-developers] apt-get problem

2006-12-11 Thread Fred Lefévère-Laoide

Marius Vollmer wrote:

ext Fred Lefévère-Laaoide [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


whenever I try apt-get update (from the command line or through the
Application Manager) I get a
Connecapt-get: Symbol lookup error :
/usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: undefined symbol: _ZN11Globa


That looks more like some kind of file corruption to me since the
symbol name is not complete.  Or did you truncate the error message
somehow?


any idea of what recent update could have updated this lib ?


What repositories do you use?


What version do you have ?
Any idea on how I could get out of this ?


Try to install the apt package again with dpkg.  That is, download
it from mistral or scirocco directly, and use dpkg --install ... to
install it.

(I would have to do some digging to tell you the exact version numbers
you should be using...)



Strange enough : I tried the Red Pill mode and I had no problem ...
then back to Blue Pill ... and the problem disappeared ...

A little bit frightening ... how long will my 770 live ...

Thanks anyway

Fred
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[maemo-developers] python + osso_browser does work.

2006-12-11 Thread Jason Monroe Martin

Bugzilla bug 905 closed.

I had upgraded some packages in the red pill mode and it broke some stuff.


The following code works in maemo 2.1


import dbus

bus = dbus.SessionBus()

proxy_obj = bus.get_object('com.nokia.osso_browser', 
'/com/nokia/osso_browser')


dbus_iface = dbus.Interface(proxy_obj, 'com.nokia.osso_browser')

dbus_iface.load_url('http://www.google.com')


Thanks to all who looked at it.
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Re: [maemo-developers] maemo mplayer development and its possible future use on Nokia 770

2006-12-11 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Monday 11 December 2006 11:26, Frantisek Dufka wrote:

 Yes, the result would look like video overlay works in windows or linux
 on PC - overlay draws over different windows when it shouldn't :-) We
 can live with that.

I thought it is actually not a problem but quite a good thing :-) Surely for
mplayer as a standalone video player, supporting keboard/initializing 
some window is important.

But if it just outputs video into some rectangular screen area (provided by
some other application) and is controlled via issuing commands through 
a pipe, it makes possible to develop some advanced frontends which use
mplayer as a video rendering engine. For example a twin of the standard 
Nokia 770 video player which simulates all its GUI controls could be created.

My original goal of posting the previous message was an attempt to find a
volunteer who would like to try developing such a frontend.

I don't have that much time to devote to mplayer development myself. Up until
this moment I even could not concentrate on solving some specific task but
tried some bits with MP3 audio output, decoder improvements, GUI and user 
interface, fixing arm specific bugs, and now video output code with hardware
YUV support. Also some kind of management work, integration of useful
patches and support for users in the forums takes some time. I would like to
concentrate on some task such as video decoder optimizations for ARM, but
seeing that other parts are not in a quite good shape, distracts attention
somewhat :-)

 As for framebuffer permissions, it may be better to 
 relax device permissions than to run mplayer as root.

The most right way to solve this issue is probably to add 'user' to 
'video' group. Alternative solutions involve messing with mplayer 
binary ownership and suid/sgid bits. I wonder what is possible to 
do automatically in the least intrusive way when installing mplayer 
package?

 Well, the conversion is done on the fly while the data is transferred to
 internal epson video buffer. I guess it would be hard to do planar YUV
 - RGB without additional memory. I still don't understand how it is
 done on the fly even in those packed formats since some color
 information (U,V) is common for more lines. Seems like tough task. There
 needs to be additional memory for remembering U,V parts from previous line.

YUV422 is a good format as it matches 16-bit RGB format quite well. Both of
them use 16 bits per pixel, and YUV422 encodes each pair of pixels into a
stride of 4 bytes (16-bit RGB encodes each pixel into 2 bytes, but you can
also treat it as 2 pixels in 4 bytes). So we can mix YUV422 and RGB data in
a framebuffer quite conveniently.

  Another interesting possibility is to relay video scaling and color
  conversion (planer - packed YUV) to DSP.

 I'm not sure, is there some math involved in this or it is just memory
 shuffling? I guess DSP would be really bad for memory shuffling. From
 previous discussions it looks like when you add DSP to the mix all kinds
 of bottlenecks appears. I wonder if gstreamer/dspfbsink could keep up
 with mplayer speed doing just conversion and video output.

Actually DSP may be a good choice for scaling, if you check the same
spru098.pdf you will find Pixel interpolation Hardware Extension part :-)
Also looks like dspfbsink uses DSP for scaling as it provides a mapped 
memory for planar YV12 data (or its variant) and accepts a command to 
do the rendering. I looked through xserver sources and gst plugins to dig 
for information and I think I got some impression about how they work, but 
I think this all deserves a separate post along with some additional
inquiries addressed to Nokia developers :-)

ARM can perform YV12-YUV422 conversion quite fast if properly optimized, I
even suspect that it can provide a throughoutput comparable to memcpy (as
memory controller/write buffer performance is a limiting factor here and some
data shuffling will not make much difference). The benchmarks in my previous
message use standard color conversion/scaling code from mplayer which is 
not optimized for ARM. But just color format conversion is a special case,
sometimes scaling is required and mplayer scaler is rather slow. Scaling
performed by mplayer was completely unusable for RGB target colorspace with
x11 driver, that's why maemo build of mplayer had fallback to SDL when
playback for scaled video was required. Now with the target colorspace YUV422,
it is slow but still usable and a bit better than SDL. If we want a fast
scaler for ARM, using JIT is a good option (and I have some experience in
developing JIT translator for x86).

Anyway, I hope that by using DSP for scaling and running it asynchronously, it
is possible to reduce ARM core usage to almost zero and keep all the resources
for video decoding. A related interesting observation is that screen update
ioctl does not seem to affect performance at all (commenting it out does not
improve performace and naturally we get no picture on the 

[maemo-developers] gconf notifications?

2006-12-11 Thread Manuel Roman

Hi,

I just wrote a very simple application that uses gconf notifications.
Unfortunately, the callback is never called.  I have used gconf from a
graphical hildon app and notifications worked fine, however, when I try from
a console application it does not seem to work. I include the two simple
files I wrote: gconf_test, which registers the callback and gconf_test_set,
which sets a value. If you can pinpoint the problem I would really
appreciate it. Although there is no error checking for gconf_init, I tested
it and always returned TRUE.

GCONF_TEST
#include gconf/gconf-client.h
#define GCONF_MAEMO_PREFIX /apps/maemo
#define GCONF_KEY_OPERATION GCONF_MAEMO_PREFIX/mc/operation

static void callback(GConfClient *gconf_client, guint cnxn_id, GConfEntry
*entry, gpointer user_data)
{
   char *operationName = gconf_client_get_string(gconf_client,
GCONF_KEY_OPERATION, NULL);
   printf(OpName:%s\n,operationName);
}

void config_init()
{
   GConfValue *value;
   gchar *str;

   GConfClient *gconf_client = gconf_client_get_default();

   if(!gconf_client)
   {
   printf(Failed to initialize GConf.  Quitting.);
   exit(1);
   }

   gconf_client_add_dir(gconf_client, GCONF_KEY_OPERATION,
GCONF_CLIENT_PRELOAD_RECURSIVE, NULL);
   gconf_client_notify_add(gconf_client, GCONF_KEY_OPERATION, callback,
NULL, NULL, NULL);

   g_object_unref(gconf_client);
}

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
   //Initialize GConf
   g_type_init();
   gconf_init(argc, argv, NULL);
   config_init();

   while(1)
sleep(1);
}


GCONF_TEST
#include gconf/gconf-client.h
#define GCONF_MAEMO_PREFIX /apps/maemo
#define GCONF_KEY_OPERATION GCONF_MAEMO_PREFIX/mc/operation

static void
config_init()
{
   GConfValue *value;
   gchar *str;

   GConfClient *gconf_client = gconf_client_get_default();

   if(!gconf_client)
   {
   printf(Failed to initialize GConf.  Quitting.);
   exit(1);
   }

   printf(Setting:%s\n,GCONF_KEY_OPERATION);
   gconf_client_set_string(gconf_client, GCONF_KEY_OPERATION, deactivate,
NULL);

   g_object_unref(gconf_client);
}

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
   //Initialize GConf
   g_type_init();
   gconf_init(argc, argv, NULL);
   config_init();

   return 1;
}

Thanks!
Manuel
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Re: [maemo-developers] gconf notifications?

2006-12-11 Thread Santtu Lakkala
Manuel Roman wrote:
 I just wrote a very simple application that uses gconf notifications.
 Unfortunately, the callback is never called.  I have used gconf from a
 graphical hildon app and notifications worked fine, however, when I try
 from
 a console application it does not seem to work. I include the two simple
 files I wrote: gconf_test, which registers the callback and gconf_test_set,
 which sets a value. If you can pinpoint the problem I would really
 appreciate it. Although there is no error checking for gconf_init, I tested
 it and always returned TRUE.

GConf needs GMainLoop to be running to work. In normal hildon
applications Gtk+ takes care of this, as gtk_main() runs a GMainLoop.
You can alter your main() to use GMainLoop:

int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
  GMainLoop *loop;
  g_type_init();
  config_init();

  loop = g_main_loop_new(NULL, FALSE);

  g_main_loop_run(loop);

  return 0;
}

Do note, that unlike with Gtk+'s gtk_main_quit(), with GMainLoops, you
need to pass the loop object to g_main_loop_quit, so you'll need to
store the loop pointer and pass it everywhere it is needed. Also note
that gconf_init() is deprecated and needs not be called.

-- 
Santtu Lakkala
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