Re: Camera app video functions removed?

2007-07-18 Thread Jussi Kukkonen
Andrew J. Barr wrote:
 I went to use the (unfortunately closed-source) camera app today on
 my N800 and it seems the ability to take video has been removed. What
 was the reason for this and are there any replacements that have this
 function? 

This has been discussed in maemo-users and in bugzilla already.

The camera app you have is from Nokia (and it has never had video). The
camera app you are thinking of is from the problematically named Garage
project camera.


HTH,
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Re: maemo examples

2007-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can anyone help me ?
This is an important and urgent task for me
Thanks 

Luca

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Another problem for my environment is apt tool, 
probably the problem is linked whith proxy configuration
How can i configure proxy for apt tool inside scratchbox ?

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A: ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Inviato: Martedì 17 luglio 2007, 15:21:08
Oggetto: Re: maemo examples

On Tue, 2007-07-17 at 05:59 -0700, ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi , where i can found examples used in the tutorial ?
 The following link does't work 
 http://maemo.org/development/examples/ 
 and my apt in scratchbox too.
 I'm trying to create a deb package to
 install  my application on N800 
 What can I do ?



Could you specify which tutorial has the broken link? To install the
maemo-examples package, you have to have lines:

deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free
deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free

In your scratchbox's /etc/apt/sources.list and run 'apt-get update'
before 'apt-get source maemo-examples'. Files of the example packages
can also be found in:
https://staging.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/tools/trunk/maemo_testing/maemo-examples/

They don't however include an example of making Debian package at the
moment. For that you can refer to the examples of
 Hildon Desktop Plugins
howto
(http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/tutorial_desktop_plugins_bora.html),
 which also includes files for autotools. These however differ a bit for 
plugins and standalone programs.

I hope this helps.

- Jami Pekkanen

Thanks Jami ,
from the maemo home follow the Development link and from here click  Example on 
the 
left side of the page, a page not found error  occur.
In how-tos  section in   Making a package for the Application Manager in maemo 
3.x  link to hello-world-app_0.4.tar.gz. doesn't exist.

Just another small question, We are working on an
 advanced radio device and in particular I'm involved on  the radio controller 
(GUI). This device is based on
 OMAP 2430 processor, and linux. To develop this task we have purchased a pair 
of N800 to evaluaing the platform (software).  
Can i use maemo, eventually modifying source code, on my device ?
Thanks
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Re: maemo examples

2007-07-18 Thread Ian
Ola,
 Can anyone help me ?
 This is an important and urgent task for me
 Thanks
Have you tried exporting the proxy in the shell???...like
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ export http_proxy=http://proxy.domain.org:port;

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RE: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi Larry, 

 A couple thoughts from a former hardware hacker here: first, serial
 ports are your friend so if you can find a sacrificial device that has
 a cracked screen or some other serious but non- life-threatening
 defect you should probably invest in a level-shifter chip and a DB-9
 connector (and some soldering cleverness) to be able to communicate
 through the serial port.  Sending bytes back and forth that way is
 trivial and will allow you to seriously goof around with an otherwise
 worthless device at the kernel or bootloader level.

Yes, in an ideal world this would be nice, but I'm doing okay with ssh/sftp over
wifi for the time being. Out of interest, does the N800 actually have solder
points for a serial port at some known location?

   The second thought is learn the ABI convention for calling C methods
 from assembly and you can pass whatever data you need to a function
 that will do the printing for you.  I'd suggest going with this route
 since it will be the most straightforward without soldering but also
 the least versatile.  --You may end up rebooting many, many times and
 the less overhead there is to initialize before playing around the
 faster you can try a new idea.  At any rate, I believe the ABI changed
 when we went to the armel format and so there's a handy description on
 changes to system calls and so forth here:
 http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort  Sorry if I'm pointing out anything
 that might be obvious, these are just things I had to work through
 when I was working on this type of thing on OS-less boards.

Thanks for that pointer, I'd forgotten about that page. It does say how
registers are passed (but I think it says to system calls rather than some
random function). I'll have to look at it again and do some more digging (and in
the meantime save the value of R14 to an array each time the handler code is
called, then print it out in C after the asm has completed). 

Does anyone know whether there are there any good docs/books on ARM asm
programming, telling people these sort of things? This is an interesting (and
hopefully useful) learning experience, but can be really frustrating when I know
what I want to do, and pretty much how to, but not quite! :) E.g. calling
functions in linked libraries, how to call .s file functions from C, what is and
isn't allowed in in-line asm, etc.

 Good luck!
 Larry

Thanks!


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RE: maemo examples

2007-07-18 Thread Ian
Ola,

 If that does not work try to use the IP address instead of
 proxy.domain.org.

or you can even put the following in apt.conf

Acquire {
Retries 0;
HTTP {
Proxy http://proxy.domain.org:port;;
};
};

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Re: Mozilla based browser + brief GUADEC recap

2007-07-18 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Jul 17, 2007 at 11:49:45PM +0200, ext Hanno Zulla wrote:
 Just out of curiousity:
 
 Is there any word out on why Nokia chose Mozilla over Webcore this time?
 
 http://www.osnews.com/story.php/12965/An-Overview-of-Nokias-KHTMLWebCore-based-S60-Browser/

Hi,
I wasn't involved in the decision-making, but S60's browser development
is completely separate to ours, so that wouldn't have been much of an
influencing factor.

Cheers,
Daniel


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Re: Mozilla based browser + brief GUADEC recap

2007-07-18 Thread Luca De Cicco
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:35:45 -0500 (CDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  For you to enjoy (and as some of you already know):
 
  Mozilla based browser engine available for testing
  http://maemo.org/news/view/1184699585.html
 
  http://maemo.org/browser
 
 

Wow! This is a very good news! Another step forward in freeing the
N800! 

I'm trying the browser and it seems quite stable for now. The good
thing is that the end-user won't catch the difference
between opera and the mozilla based browser as the GUIs are exactly the
same.

Congratulations to all the involved developers and keep up  the good
work :)

Luca
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RE: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Igor Stoppa
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 11:01 +0100, ext Simon Pickering wrote:

 Yes, in an ideal world this would be nice, but I'm doing okay with ssh/sftp 
 over
 wifi for the time being. Out of interest, does the N800 actually have solder
 points for a serial port at some known location?

There are websites, such as mobilchips that distribute schematics and
assembly instructions for phones and other devices. They haven't managed
to get an N800 manual, but they have the 770 one.

I don't know how legal it is for them to distribute such documents and
for people to download them, so this is _not_ a written permission or
anything similar, just a comment.

-- 
Cheers, Igor

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Re: maemo examples

2007-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I tryed to add (inside scratchbox)
http_proxy=x.y.z.j:1234
whith this the answer to apt-get update
is: Could not resolve '3128'
with http_proxy=:x.y.z.j:1234

the answer to apt-get update
is: Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'

Besides i have proxy authentication how can i set 
this in scratchbox ?
Thanks

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Ola,

 If that does not work try to use the IP address instead of
 proxy.domain.org.

or you can even put the following in apt.conf

Acquire {
Retries 0;
HTTP {
Proxy http://proxy.domain.org:port;;;
};
};

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Re: maemo examples

2007-07-18 Thread Andrew Flegg
On 7/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tryed to add (inside scratchbox)
 http_proxy=x.y.z.j:1234
 whith this the answer to apt-get update
 is: Could not resolve '3128'

 with http_proxy=:x.y.z.j:1234
 the answer to apt-get update
 is: Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'

 Besides i have proxy authentication how can i set
 this in scratchbox ?

You need something like the following:

export http_proxy=http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1234

HTH,

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Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread David Hagood
I cannot get the rtcom beta to install, as it keeps complaining that
evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1 is missing and cannot be found.
I've tried refreshing the app list, and running the apt-get command
manually, to no avail.


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Re: Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread Kalle Vahlman
2007/7/18, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I cannot get the rtcom beta to install, as it keeps complaining that
 evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1 is missing and cannot be found.
 I've tried refreshing the app list, and running the apt-get command
 manually, to no avail.

See

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-July/010915.html

for details on this issue.

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Browser source code?

2007-07-18 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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2007-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
In which way i can try one of the tutorial's example on my N800? 
For example i tryed with hildonprogram.c this work inside i386 but if i want 
try it on device 
what can i do ?

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hacker edition status and future?

2007-07-18 Thread Joni Valtanen


On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Arnaud Patard wrote:

 Joni Valtanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi !

 Hello,

 since now the project is revived and some work is going on, I'd like
 to
 raise this again. It would be nice if someone involved in this project
 could comment this
 http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-May/010280.html

 Next version is coming as rootfs. There is no kernel updates.

 :(


 I guess this project is not exactly top secret like regular firmwares
 so
 more open process would be nice.

 Same components are used as in n800 version, but the kernel is older
 2.6.16. There is lot of work if n800 version of the kernel is used.

 why ? afaik upstream omap tree is supporting n770 and n800 so it's
 technically feasible.
 If it's a matter of resources, I'm sure you'll find people here that
 will be happy to help you in this task.
 If it's a matter of userspace breakages, imho there should not be too
 much. fwiw when running my custom 2.6.21-rc kernel, events like usb
 cable plug and no wifi were the only breakages I've noticed.

Kernel with first HE was the same as in n800. 
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Os2007On770 have some notes about this.

Person who 'fight' with these kernels comes back to track in two weeks. He 
knows all the problems with this.

- Joni
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Re: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Brian Waite

 A couple thoughts from a former hardware hacker here: first, serial
 ports are your friend so if you can find a sacrificial device that has
 a cracked screen or some other serious but non- life-threatening
 defect you should probably invest in a level-shifter chip and a DB-9
 connector (and some soldering cleverness) to be able to communicate
 through the serial port.  
Serial port will make life MUCH better!

Serial (and USB ) PDA cables have level shifter built in usually. Just snip 
the PDA connector off and figure out the wires (I am sure google is your 
firend)
 Sending bytes back and forth that way is 
 trivial and will allow you to seriously goof around with an otherwise
 worthless device at the kernel or bootloader level.

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Re: Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread david . hagood
 2007/7/18, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I cannot get the rtcom beta to install, as it keeps complaining that
 evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1 is missing and cannot be found.
 I've tried refreshing the app list, and running the apt-get command
 manually, to no avail.

 See

 http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-July/010915.html

 for details on this issue.

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However, I have removed contacts, and the problem persists.

AND, I have tried to explicitly install evolution-data-server
1.4.2.1.r554-3, and it is NOT in any of the repositories. It is NOT a
situation of cannot install because of conflict, but cannot install
because it doesn't exist!

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Re: Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread iball2929
I had the EXACT same error and the only way to fix it was to  
completely reflash my N800 and install the RTCOMM beta before  
anything else.

On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2007/7/18, David Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 I cannot get the rtcom beta to install, as it keeps complaining that
 evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1 is missing and cannot be  
 found.
 I've tried refreshing the app list, and running the apt-get command
 manually, to no avail.

 See

 http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-July/ 
 010915.html

 for details on this issue.

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 However, I have removed contacts, and the problem persists.

 AND, I have tried to explicitly install evolution-data-server
 1.4.2.1.r554-3, and it is NOT in any of the repositories. It is NOT a
 situation of cannot install because of conflict, but cannot install
 because it doesn't exist!

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Re: Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread Ross Burton
On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 08:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 However, I have removed contacts, and the problem persists.
 
 AND, I have tried to explicitly install evolution-data-server
 1.4.2.1.r554-3, and it is NOT in any of the repositories. It is NOT a
 situation of cannot install because of conflict, but cannot install
 because it doesn't exist!

Did you remove the OpenedHand apt source and refresh the catalogue too?

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Aw: RE: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Jason
Hi,
the best book i know about the ARM is ARM SYSTEM-ON-CHIP ARCHITETURE from 
Steve Furber, who was one of the developer of the ARM. But i dont know, if 
there is an aktual edition. Mine is from 2002.
Ciao
Jason

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Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Gesendet: Mi., 18. Jul. 2007 12:01:23 CEST
Betreff: RE: Java acceleration/Jazelle

...

Does anyone know whether there are there any good docs/books on ARM asm
programming, telling people these sort of things? This is an interesting (and
hopefully useful) learning experience, but can be really frustrating when I know
what I want to do, and pretty much how to, but not quite! :) E.g. calling
functions in linked libraries, how to call .s file functions from C, what is and
isn't allowed in in-line asm, etc.

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Re: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Riku Voipio
Simon Pickering wrote:
   The second thought is learn the ABI convention for calling C methods
 from assembly and you can pass whatever data you need to a function
 that will do the printing for you.  I'd suggest going with this route
 since it will be the most straightforward without soldering but also
 the least versatile.  --You may end up rebooting many, many times and
 the less overhead there is to initialize before playing around the
 faster you can try a new idea.  At any rate, I believe the ABI changed
 when we went to the armel format and so there's a handy description on
 changes to system calls and so forth here:
 http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort  Sorry if I'm pointing out anything
 that might be obvious, these are just things I had to work through
 when I was working on this type of thing on OS-less boards.
 

 Thanks for that pointer, I'd forgotten about that page. It does say how
 registers are passed (but I think it says to system calls rather than some
 random function). I'll have to look at it again and do some more digging (and 
 in
 the meantime save the value of R14 to an array each time the handler code is
 called, then print it out in C after the asm has completed). 
   
That part is talking about normal function calls. So you have 4 
registers to pass arguments,
rest is passed in stack.

 Does anyone know whether there are there any good docs/books on ARM asm
 programming, telling people these sort of things? This is an interesting (and
 hopefully useful) learning experience, but can be really frustrating when I 
 know
 what I want to do, and pretty much how to, but not quite! :) E.g. calling
 functions in linked libraries, how to call .s file functions from C, what is 
 and
 isn't allowed in in-line asm, etc.
   
I don't think there is really such a book, but you can use gcc -S to see 
what kind of assembler
gcc generates to call functions. Otoh it sounds what want to know is 
already in jalimo jamvm
in src/os/linux/arm/callNative.S =)

Since the virtual machine is not only running the bytecode, taking jamvm 
(or something else)
as the base could make sense.
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Re:

2007-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, ok but how can I run it ?
If I want use Application Manager to install the example a deb file 
must be provided, but how can i crete this package ?

Greetings

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Inviato: Mercoledì 18 luglio 2007, 16:08:56
Oggetto: 

Hi,

 For example i tryed withhildonprogram.c this work inside i386 but if i
 want try it on device 
 what can i do ?

You need to make a binary for the armel arch, so, you can compile the
example inside an armel target in sbox. Then, you can copy it to the
device and just run it.

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Re:

2007-07-18 Thread Visti Andresen
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, ok but how can I run it ?
 If I want use Application Manager to install the example a deb file 
 must be provided, but how can i crete this package ?

Install xterm and and start the executable from the terminal

You can transfer the executable any way you like, but I would recommend scp
it's just so easy.
 
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Re: Re:

2007-07-18 Thread Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez

 Thanks, ok but how can I run it ?
 If I want use Application Manager to install the example a deb file 
 must be provided, but how can i crete this package ?

You could try to run the binary from a shell (xterm) or ssh console.
You can install a debian package from the app-manager, but the file
should be located at any place in MyDocs or removable memories.
To make the packages, is the same way as in i386 target at sbox,
you can use dpkg-buildpackage.

But the example you comment (hildonprogram.c) I think is just a source
file, it has not the structure for building debian package. I think
the tutorial shows how to build a package for maemopad.

Greetings.
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Re:

2007-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks , i used the procedure that you suggest using usb cable to transfer
executable on memory card and from xterm i tryed to launch but nothing happens.

What is wrong

- Messaggio originale -
Da: Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-developers@maemo.org
Inviato: Mercoledì 18 luglio 2007, 17:06:17
Oggetto: Re:

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks, ok but how can I run it ?
 If I want use Application Manager to install the example a deb file 
 must be provided, but how can i crete this package ?

Install xterm and and start the executable from the terminal

You can transfer the executable any way you like, but I would recommend scp
it's just so easy.
 







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N800 as usb host and WLAN usb pen driver

2007-07-18 Thread ツ Leandro Sales
Hi!
   I have N800 and since I need to use the kernel git version of
linux-omap and in this way it is not possible to compile the WLAN
driver against this kernel, I want to plug a usb hub on it (with a
mini-usb connector in both  of the cable) and use a usb wireless pen
drive to connect to a wlan network. Did someone already do this? If I
do this, will it work? Any suggestion/clue will be accepted. Thank
you.

Cheers,
Leandro.
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Re:

2007-07-18 Thread Visti Andresen
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks , i used the procedure that you suggest using usb cable to transfer
 executable on memory card and from xterm i tryed to launch but nothing 
 happens.
 
 What is wrong
 

Hard to tell, not much info... have you tried something like a simple hello 
world?:

#include stdio.h
int main()
{
  printf (Hello World\n);
  return 0;
}


 - Messaggio originale -
 Da: Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-developers@maemo.org
 Inviato: Mercoledì 18 luglio 2007, 17:06:17
 Oggetto: Re:
 
 On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 07:48:16 -0700 (PDT)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Thanks, ok but how can I run it ?
  If I want use Application Manager to install the example a deb file 
  must be provided, but how can i crete this package ?
 
 Install xterm and and start the executable from the terminal
 
 You can transfer the executable any way you like, but I would recommend scp
 it's just so easy.
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Re:

2007-07-18 Thread Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez

 Thanks , i used the procedure that you suggest using usb cable to
 transfer
 executable on memory card and from xterm i tryed to launch but nothing
 happens.
 
 What is wrong

Try next:
# mount
/dev/mmcblk1p1 on /media/mmc1 type vfat
(rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,utf8,uid=2,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133)

If you get noexec you cannot run binaries from mmc.
Try to run from other location. (/home/user, /tmp, ...)

Greetings.








 
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Re: Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread david . hagood
I finally managed to get a big enough hammer to drive the upgrade through.

It turns out that the older farsight libraries don't get automatically
removed when you attempt to install the newer libraries.

What I did was to drop to a root shell, then try

apt-get install osso-rtcom-beta

Note the missing libraries apt-get indicates (which are different than
what the application manager says), then directly download them from the
rtcom-beta repository. Then attempt to install each library via dpkg.

For each library, dpkg will complain about attempting to overwrite a file
owned by another package (the older version of the package). dpkg -r the
offending package, then install the new package.

Then once again try the apt-get install osso-rtcom-beta, and iterate until
it succeeds.

I'd suggest the next time the new libraries are built, it might be wise to
have the .deb indicate that they obsolete all previous versions of the
library.

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Re: Browser source code?

2007-07-18 Thread Jussi Kukkonen
Adilson Oliveira wrote:
 Where can I find the source code for the browser released yesterday?


svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser; should work.

-jussi



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Re: Testing applications on the device

2007-07-18 Thread Mike Lococo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In which way i can try one of the tutorial's example on my N800?
 For example i tryed with hildonprogram.c this work inside i386 but if i 
 want try it on device
 what can i do ?

 Install xterm and and start the executable from the terminal

 Thanks , i used the procedure that you suggest using usb cable to transfer
 executable on memory card and from xterm i tryed to launch but nothing 
 happens.

Writing proper thread titles isn't hard, and it is _very_ helpful to 
people to subscribe to many lists.  Please continue this discussion off 
of this posting, or start another with a sensible title.

Thanks,
Mike Lococo
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Re: Re:

2007-07-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, Thanks starting from /home all is ok.


- Messaggio originale -
Da: Carlos Sanmartin Dominguez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; maemo-developers@maemo.org
Inviato: Mercoledì 18 luglio 2007, 18:00:40
Oggetto: Re: Re:


 Thanks , i used the procedure that you suggest using usb cable to
 transfer
 executable on memory card and from xterm i tryed to launch but nothing
 happens.
 
 What is wrong

Try next:
# mount
/dev/mmcblk1p1 on /media/mmc1 type vfat
(rw,noauto,nodev,noexec,nosuid,utf8,uid=2,shortname=mixed,dmask=000,fmask=0133)

If you get noexec you cannot run binaries from mmc.
Try to run from other location. (/home/user, /tmp, ...)

Greetings.








 











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Re: Browser source code?

2007-07-18 Thread Visti Andresen
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:15:50 +0300
Jussi Kukkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Adilson Oliveira wrote:
  Where can I find the source code for the browser released yesterday?
 
 
 svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser; should work.

Source you say... I wonder what happens if I try to compile it for N770

 
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RE: Cannot install osso-rtcom-beta 1.0.1, missing evolution-data-server = 1.4.2.1r554-3.1

2007-07-18 Thread dmitry.1.rozhkov
 ext [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I finally managed to get a big enough hammer to drive the upgrade
through.

 It turns out that the older farsight libraries don't get automatically

 removed when you attempt to install the newer libraries.
   

And it shouldn't because Skype needs the old library. Definitely
something went wrong with your system because the new farsight doesn't
conflict with the older one presented in the latest official software
release.


 I'd suggest the next time the new libraries are built, it might be 
 wise to have the .deb indicate that they obsolete all previous 
 versions of the library.

   
The Application Manager lacks the ability to remove 'system' packages
which don't belong to the 'user' section, but it's intentional.

BR,
Dmitry
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Re: Browser source code?

2007-07-18 Thread Visti Andresen
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:23:58 +0200
Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:15:50 +0300
 Jussi Kukkonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Adilson Oliveira wrote:
   Where can I find the source code for the browser released yesterday?
  
  
  svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser; should work.
 
 Source you say... I wonder what happens if I try to compile it for N770

Not much

svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser
svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/browser'
svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/browser': Could not resolve hostname `garage.maemo.org': 
Temporary failure in name resolution (https://garage.maemo.org)

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How to judge if GtkWindow is on top of hildon desktop or NOT

2007-07-18 Thread Zhu, Peter J
I tried to use both gdk_window_is_visible and gtk_window_is_active to
judge if GtkWindow is on top of hildon desktop or not. But unfortunately
both fail to get correct result. 

For example, I launch my window and lauch another window on top of mine.
Then I judge if mine is still on top of desktop. But both methods return
TRUE. That's not correct. Anyone knows how to?

Thanks.
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Re: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Wednesday 18 July 2007 13:01, Simon Pickering wrote:

 Does anyone know whether there are there any good docs/books on ARM asm
 programming, telling people these sort of things? This is an interesting
 (and hopefully useful) learning experience, but can be really frustrating
 when I know what I want to do, and pretty much how to, but not quite! :)
 E.g. calling functions in linked libraries, how to call .s file functions
 from C, what is and isn't allowed in in-line asm, etc.

I would recommend checking the following documentation from ARM website:

http://www.arm.com/documentation/Instruction_Set/index.html
ARM v5TE Architecture Reference Manual for the detailed information about
the instruction set (up to ARMv5TE). Unfortunately it does not cover new ARMv6
instructions (I used Quick Reference Card to get some information about them).

http://www.arm.com/pdfs/aapcs.pdf
Procedure Call Standard for the ARM Architecture for the information about
calling conventions and arguments passing between asm and C and generally
about ABI.

http://www.arm.com/documentation/ARMProcessor_Cores/index.html
ARM1136JF-S and ARM1136J-S r1p1 Technical Reference Manual for ARM11
pipeline description and instruction timings (useful when optimizing for 
N800).

ARM9EJ-S Revision r1p2 Technical Reference Manual for ARM9E pipeline
description and instruction timings (useful when optimizing for 770).

These four pdf files cover almost everything needed if you are interested in
assembly programming for Nokia 770 and N800. But surely ARM website 
provides many other interesting documents worth reading.
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Re: Browser source code?

2007-07-18 Thread Mika Yrjölä
On 7/18/07, Visti Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser
 svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/browser'
 svn: PROPFIND of '/svn/browser': Could not resolve hostname 
 `garage.maemo.org': Temporary failure in name resolution 
 (https://garage.maemo.org)

Resolves and checkouts nicely here:

[sbox-SDK_ARMEL: /tmp/foo-2]  svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser
A  browser/www
A  browser/www/maemo_browser_info_scroll.js
A  browser/www/maemobrowser_operan800.css
A  browser/www/docs
A  browser/www/docs/extension.html
 clip ---

Are you trying the checkout inside Scratchbox? If you are, have you
checked that both resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf are OK inside SB? See
e.g.

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-March/008783.html

for details or just google for something like site:maemo.org
nsswitch.conf resolv.conf.

If these are OK or you're having issues doing the checkout outside SB,
I guess your nameserver is having some temporary hiccups.
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RE: How to judge if GtkWindow is on top of hildon desktop or NOT

2007-07-18 Thread Zhu, Peter J
I get what I want with hildon_window_get_is_topmost.



Zhu, Peter J wrote on Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:48 AM:

 I tried to use both gdk_window_is_visible and gtk_window_is_active to
 judge if GtkWindow is on top of hildon desktop or not. But
 unfortunately both fail to get correct result.
 
 For example, I launch my window and lauch another window on top of
 mine. Then I judge if mine is still on top of desktop. But both
 methods return TRUE. That's not correct. Anyone knows how to?
 
 Thanks.
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Re: hacker edition status and future?

2007-07-18 Thread Rtp
Joni Valtanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi !

 On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Arnaud Patard wrote:

 Joni Valtanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi !

 Hello,

 since now the project is revived and some work is going on, I'd like
 to
 raise this again. It would be nice if someone involved in this project
 could comment this
 http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-May/010280.html

 Next version is coming as rootfs. There is no kernel updates.

 :(


 I guess this project is not exactly top secret like regular firmwares
 so
 more open process would be nice.

 Same components are used as in n800 version, but the kernel is older
 2.6.16. There is lot of work if n800 version of the kernel is used.

 why ? afaik upstream omap tree is supporting n770 and n800 so it's
 technically feasible.
 If it's a matter of resources, I'm sure you'll find people here that
 will be happy to help you in this task.
 If it's a matter of userspace breakages, imho there should not be too
 much. fwiw when running my custom 2.6.21-rc kernel, events like usb
 cable plug and no wifi were the only breakages I've noticed.

 Kernel with first HE was the same as in
 n800. http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Os2007On770 have some notes
 about this.

I know this page. I was hoping that the situation had improved. Also, when
I talked about the userspace, I was thinking about things like ke-recv [1]


 Person who 'fight' with these kernels comes back to track in two
 weeks. He knows all the problems with this.

ok

Thanks,
Arnaud

[1] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-April/009442.html

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Re: Browser source code?

2007-07-18 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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 Where can I find the source code for the browser released yesterday?

 
 svn checkout https://garage.maemo.org/svn/browser; should work.
 

It's ok.

Thanks.
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Re: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Simon Pickering
Hi Siarhei,

 Does anyone know whether there are there any good docs/books on ARM asm
 programming, telling people these sort of things? This is an interesting
 (and hopefully useful) learning experience, but can be really frustrating
 when I know what I want to do, and pretty much how to, but not quite! :)
 E.g. calling functions in linked libraries, how to call .s file functions
 from C, what is and isn't allowed in in-line asm, etc.

 I would recommend checking the following documentation from ARM website:

snip

 http://www.arm.com/pdfs/aapcs.pdf
 Procedure Call Standard for the ARM Architecture for the information about
 calling conventions and arguments passing between asm and C and generally
 about ABI.

I'd not spotted this one, thank you for the pointer.

Simon
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Re: Java acceleration/Jazelle

2007-07-18 Thread Simon Pickering
I've adjusted the code I wrote to test Scott Bambrough's suggestion 
(see earlier in the thread). The name and URL is still the same: 
http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/jazelle/test_jazelle7.c

After the code starts and BXJ R12 is issued, the code does branch to 
the handler whose address is contained in R12 (this can be seen as the 
first entry of the output buffer is equal to the first of the code 
(input) buffer. This may or may not indicate that Jazelle is working - 
on the one hand this is what we'd expect, on the other if Jazelle is 
disabled for some reason this is also what we'd see. We need to get it 
to process more than one instruction to determine which is the case. 
Unfortunately the code segfaults on the second BXJ R12 instruction (the 
one issued at the end of the handler starting at label 2:).

It is definitely this instruction causing the problem, I've spent all 
evening debugging the code to check I'd not made some silly mistake 
(which is not to say I just haven't spotted it) and this instruction is 
the one that produces the segfault.

Therefore, the question is why does this happen? The only apparent 
difference between this BXJ and the first one is that the address is to 
a backwards label rather than a forwards label. I don't think this 
should cause any problems. The other possibility is that the Jazelle 
hardware is now fired up and therefore needs something different to be 
done to it, or I have managed to overwrite one of the registers that 
it's using and it's therefore not happy. This sort of indicates that 
Jazelle is working, though I'll wait and see if anyone has any other 
ideas

Any suggestions before I try reducing my register usage and trying 
other registers?

Thanks,


Simon
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RE: Mozilla based browser + brief GUADEC recap

2007-07-18 Thread quim.gil
 Is there any word out on why Nokia chose Mozilla over 
Webcore this time?

Leonid would explain this in more detail but going to the main concept:

As for today, Mozilla based browsers are almost a de-facto standard in
the GNOME desktop, so it is a natural choice for us to support the same
browser engine.  This also gives us the opportunity to align our
development with the very successful Mozilla  Firefox projects and
communities. It makes sense and we have now an intereting horizon of
potential collaboration. 

WebCore, WebKit and the Nokia web browser have proven to be a very good
choice for S60 and the more constrained smartphone form factor. No
problem with this either.

More about this and other topics in Leonid's presentation in GUADEC:
http://browser.garage.maemo.org/docs/guadec2007/mozilla_browser.odp

Quim
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