Re: ncurses-base for OS 2008 (n800)

2008-01-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Jaeyeon Jung wrote:
 Awesome! Thank you very much Andrew. Simple two steps fixed the
 problem. 1. uninstall nano that I had on my n800 2. add the Chinook
 repository and apt-get install nano
 
 On Jan 4, 2008 3:31 PM, Andrew Godwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ncurses-base itself is in the main repositories now (well, I have nano
 installed on OS2008, and I certainly didn't port it this time). I think
 the appropriate catalogue is 'Maemo Chinook':

 web addr: http://repository.maemo.org/
 distrib: chinook
 components: free non-free

 Let me know if that's the one; if not, I'll have to track down where it
 actually comes from.

ncurses-base is a Debian essentials package (meaning: Debian/Ubuntu
package don't declare dependency to it although they use it), so I think
it would be appropriate if it would be on the device in future releases.
If somebody wants to make a bug about this, please put me on CC.


- Eero
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Fwd: CFP for embedded room at FOSDEM

2008-01-07 Thread nick loeve
woops forgot the list again...


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From: nick loeve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jan 7, 2008 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: CFP for embedded room at FOSDEM
To: Kees Jongenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Jan 6, 2008 6:53 PM, Kees Jongenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Dec 17, 2007 3:27 PM, Philippe De Swert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  This might be of interest to developers in the Free Software/Open Source
  world. FOSDEM is looking for speakers for the embedded track again.
  Anyone who thinks he/she has somebody interesting to share with other
  embedded developers please take a look at the call for papers.
 
 Hi

 What about maemo and FOSDEM. I would like to talk about maemo and meet
 other maemo hackers.
 I don't have many ideas about what would be interesting presentation
 because I don't fully gasp the gome/maemo relationship. but given some
 diirection I am not scarred to pressent anything . Did anybody apply
 for a talk or stand  at maemo?

 Just showing the nokia + canola + efl + mamona would already be a very
 sexy presenation IMHO.


Could be a good lightning talk... http://fosdem.org/2008/lightningtalks



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Re: Announcement: OS2008 2.2007.50-2 source repository

2008-01-07 Thread Graham Cobb
On Monday 07 January 2008 06:11:49 Terje Bergström wrote:
 For the next version we are designing a new repository structure that
 will accomodate SDK, SDK sources, firmware sources, updates to firmware
 sources, and updates to SDK in a uniform way.

One thing to bear in mind for the new repository structure: once you release a 
shipped version of the OS, and its respective SDK, make sure that it is always
possible to build applications that will still install for a user who has not 
updated from that release.  

The issue is that if release 200X.0 has version A of a particular library, and 
release 200X.1 has version B of a library, then applications built against 
the SDK for version 200X.1 will have dependencies of the form libwhatever = 
B and will not install on 200X.0.

To my mind there are two solutions to this:

1) Never update any SDK for a released version (beta test versions are not a 
problem).  Once the chinook SDK is released it always remains the same.  If 
an update to the SDK is needed a new codename is created and a complete new 
SDK released.  That way, the developer has an easy way to control which SDK 
they are building with.

2) Allow installing packages to upgrade the Nokia-supplied libraries 
transparently, without user involvement.  In the case of my example above, a 
user with 200X.0 installed who installs my application built against 200X.1 
ends up with version B of the library (and, of course, ends up with a system 
which is part way between 200X.0 and 200X.1 as a result).

Nokia could even decide to combine these two.  You could make the Application 
Manager refuse to upgrade certain packages (for example packages 
marked essential or something) but be willing to upgrade others (for 
example libraries to do with the camera or GPS for example).  Then you would 
only need to create a new SDK, with a new name, if you had a new version of 
one of the non-upgradeable libraries.

There is a third option: make the process of upgrading the tablet so easy 
(risk free, and fairly fast) that people will always be able to come up to 
the latest version with no hassle.  That has the advantage for developers 
that we can just build with the latest stuff and when a user complains it 
won't install we just tell them update to the latest OS.  

Graham
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Re: Announcement: OS2008 2.2007.50-2 source repository

2008-01-07 Thread Santtu Lakkala
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Graham Cobb wrote:
 To my mind there are two solutions to this:
 There is a third option: make the process of upgrading the tablet so easy 

The fourth option would be to assure the shlibs -files of said libraries
always contained at most the version of the first release. To do this,
however, it is not enough to keep ABI compatibility, but you cannot
introduce any new functions either -- or then you need to create a
better shlibs-system. ;)

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Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Ed Bartosh
On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 14:10 -0800, ext Albert Hosin wrote:
 Hi,
  
 I am trying to build latest Evince on Maemo. Much appreciated if any
 one can point me somewhere. Or if you have already built it, would you
 share the process that you did and the difficulities that you met.
 Thanks.
  
Which version do you work with?
I manage to build evince 2.21.1 yesterday with all possible backends. 
Didn't run it on the device and didn't hildonize it yet.

Should we open a project for it on garage?

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Re: bsddb module for maemo-python ?

2008-01-07 Thread Luciano Miguel Wolf
Hi Fred,

We had somebody asking for this[1] on PyMaemo mailing list. The main 
reason for bsddb module's absence is that Maemo platform doesn't provide 
bsddb support.

Regards,
Luciano

[1]
https://garage.maemo.org/pipermail/pymaemo-developers/2007-March/21.html


ext Fred Pacquier wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Does anyone have the bsddb module for maemo-python, or know where to 
 find it ?
 
 
 I don't know why it's been excluded from the maemo distribution : it's 
 not that big, and its absence means some existing software cannot be 
 reused easily on the tablets - like the very interesting Gluon:
 http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/
 
 It should at least be available in the dev package, or as a separate 
 download, but I don't see it anywhere, even in Red Pill Mode.
 
 Thanks for any pointers,
 fp
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Re: python2.5 - unnecessary multiple processes forked

2008-01-07 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Jayesh Salvi wrote:
  On 1/3/08, Jayesh Salvi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for all the info. I am planning to run the FileChooserDialog in a
  different process than my rest of the app. That may sound weird, but 
it fits
  my application's context alright. My pygtk app will run as a service, so
  that it can be invoked by other applications as well. 
FileChooserDialog is
  just one entry point into my app.
 
  Detail of my app if you are interested: It is a pygtk GUI that lets you
  upload images to Flickr or Picasaweb. I have already published the 
code as
  Gimp, Inkscape 
pluginshttp://code.google.com/p/altcanvas/wiki/GimpPublishr.
  Now I am putting the same code on maemo. I will soon release a .deb file
  once I iron out some wrinkles.
 I found out that the sluggishness observed was because of the Microb engine.
 Last night when I tried by switching to Opera engine, it worked very fast.
 So it's not the multiple threads that hildon or GTK fork, that cause
 performance issues.

You could also try disabling Flash from the Browser to see whether it
helps.


- Eero


 Thanks,
 Jayesh

 On 1/2/08, Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 ext Jayesh Salvi wrote:
 I'm not sure but think it is because of gnome-vfs. Don't know proper
 terminology but maybe each vfs 'provider' in the dialog (like mmc,
 phone
 etc.) starts new process or something like that.

 That sounds correct. I experimented with other dialogs that do no
 involve
 filesystem access (NamePasswordDialog, SortDialog), and they do not
 fork any
 extra processes.
 They are not processes, but gnome-vfs worker threads
 (you don't want the UI to freeze e.g. until network timeouts).


 So this behavior seems valid for FileChooserDialog. But then I should
 be
 able to cleanup those extra processes when I am done with the
 FileChooserDialog. I called destroy() on the dialog object, but that
 doesn't
 help.
 They remain in the gnome-vfs thread pool even after the UI component
 is destroyed.

 The memory usage issue is elsewhere.  You could look into your
 program Private_Dirty memory usage in /proc/PID/smaps file.
 Or run the same program on your PC under Valgrind Massif plugin:
 http://maemo.org/development/tools/doc/valgrind
 http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/ms-manual.html

 I'm not sure how well that tells about issues in Python code.
 Is there any memory profiler for Python applications?


 - Eero



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Re: [maemo-developers] Re: [maemo-users] 'Locking down' software installation

2008-01-07 Thread Naba Kumar
Hi,

I want to start this thread again from the long past discussion on 
lock-down meta-package. At that time, the discussion was mostly centered 
around system upgrade using the meta-package. The 'locking-down' part 
wasn't so much discussed and I believe we need to rethink that portion.

While preparing for rtcomm software update release, it came to my
attention that there is the said meta-package osso-software-version 
package that completely 'nails' the system packages to fixed versions.

This has created the very obvious problem of not being able to update
any of those packages, such as during the recent rtcomm dev update 2 (in
red-pill mode, of course). We had to remove the package from the device
to make it work. This, of course, means that the user is not going to
see any future OS updates coming through that meta package [1].

If the purpose of the package is just to deliver future updates bound
under a single meta-package, why isn't the dependency versions set with 
'equal-to-or-greater-than'?

If the purpose of the package is *also* to prevent the user from 
screwing his device by installing some 3rd party updates, isn't that 
already taken care by red/blue pill modes? Then this package is 
redundant in protecting the user's device. Even in red-pill mode, this 
package doesn't prevent anything because the installing package can 
simply remove it and go happy.

Here are three things about that:

1) As claimed by the original mail from Marius, the 'red-pill' does not 
really override this lock-down. The meta-package needs to be hackishly 
removed or 'replaced' regardless of whatever pill mode. Is there any 
other way?

2) The lock down of those packages already taken care by 'blue-pill' 
mode so no need to lock-down versions.

3) It creates a bad situation for every 3rd party to compete in 
overthrowing the locking meta-package, like mentioned in [1].

So I believe we should fix that meta-package to take '=' and not '=='. 
Comments?

Thanks.

Regards,
-Naba

[1] Of course, there is another dirty way of coming around it -- Prepare
another micro-build-incremented update of osso-software-version package
(with corrected dependencies, of course) and replace the existing one.
This preserves the user device for getting OS updates later. But,
seriously, why all these hops? This is how current rtcomm update 2 is 
supplied.

Marius Vollmer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 we are planning to put some features into the Application Manager that
 will make it more restrictive when handling the packages that make up
 the operating system itself (as opposed to third party applications).
 
 We would like to get your feedback on these plans, both from the
 end-user point of view and from the point of view of package
 developers.
 
 In the future, we hope to be able to provide official updates to the
 operating system itself via packages, and we need to give the
 end-users the confidence that when they intend to install a Nokia
 provided operating system update, they actually get what they think
 they are getting.
 
 As for the concrete plan:
 
 There is going to be a 'meta' package that represents the whole
 operating system.  Updates to the OS are done by updating this meta
 package in the Application Manager.  The meta package will have
 dependencies on all packages with their exact versions that make up
 the official OS releases.  The Application Manager will not allow the
 removal of the meta package.
 
 This means that the Application Manager will not allow you to update
 individual OS packages (or to install third party applications that
 require this), since you would have to remove the meta package for
 that.  It is still possible to install additional 'system' packages,
 just not to upgrade already installed ones.
 
 A second new feature is that the Application Manager will distinguish
 between trusted sources and non-trusted sources (based on the key
 used to sign the corresponding repository).  A package that has
 originally been installed from a trusted source will only be allowed
 to be updated (or replaced) from a trusted source.  The flash image is
 also treated as a trusted source, so you will only be able to update
 packages that are pre-installed in the device from trusted sources.
 
 This makes it easier for the user to be sure that he doesn't pick up
 unwanted system software updates by accident.
 
 The set of trusted sources will be under control of a power-user: you
 can just add some GPG keys to the right place, but there is no UI to
 do it.  You can also switch the whole lock-down machinery off by going
 to red-pill mode.
 
 So whaddaya think?  Useful?  Too painful?  Too difficult to escape
 from?
 
 
 Some variants that come to mind:
 
 The meta package could depend on 'this version or later' of a package
 instead of on exactly this version'.  That would allow it to control
 the update just as much, but would not lock down the configuration of
 the device so much.  The motivation for this lock-down of the 

Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)
Hi,

On Jan 4, 2008 7:10 PM, Albert Hosin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I am trying to build latest Evince on Maemo. Much appreciated if any one can
 point me somewhere. Or if you have already built it, would you share the
 process that you did and the difficulities that you met. Thanks.

It will depend on your needs. If you're aiming to read PDF files only,
you'll need to build poppler[1] as well. For PS it was just introduced
the libspectre[2] dependency for Evince instead of the gs binary.

To build Evince itself you need to adjust the configure flags:
--without-libgnome will definitely be necessary.

Best Regards, Etrunko.

[1] http://poppler.freedesktop.org
[2] http://libspectre.freedesktop.org

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Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)
On Jan 7, 2008 8:41 AM, Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Should we open a project for it on garage?

I don't think it is necessary to do so. There is already a bug[1] in
GNOME bugzilla regarding the Maemo/Hildon patch. Unfortunately it is
quite outdated, but I think we should host it there.

Best Regards, Etrunko.

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Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)
On Jan 7, 2008 11:20 AM, Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think it is necessary to do so. There is already a bug[1] in
 GNOME bugzilla regarding the Maemo/Hildon patch. Unfortunately it is
 quite outdated, but I think we should host it there.

 Best Regards, Etrunko.

And the link: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=324644

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Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Albert Hosin
Thank you , ED. I am using version 2.21 too. But it got the following error 
while it was running ./configure

   checking for LIB... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 = 
2.8.15 libgnomeui-2.0 = 2.14.0 libxml-2.0 = 2.5.0) were not met:
No package 'libgnomeui-2.0' found

Did you need to modify config flags for libgnome as mentioned by Eduardo in his 
previous mail:
 To build Evince itself you need to adjust the configure flags:
   without-libgnome will definitely be necessary.

Best Regards, Etrunko. 
But I don't want to use Hildon right now. Do you know what was the problem?

Thanks!


Albert


- Original Message 
From: Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ext Albert Hosin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 6:41:44 AM
Subject: Re: Build Evince on Maemo

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 14:10 -0800, ext Albert Hosin wrote:
 Hi,
  
 I am trying to build latest Evince on Maemo. Much appreciated if any
 one can point me somewhere. Or if you have already built it, would you
 share the process that you did and the difficulities that you met.
 Thanks.
  
Which version do you work with?
I manage to build evince 2.21.1 yesterday with all possible backends. 
Didn't run it on the device and didn't hildonize it yet.

Should we open a project for it on garage?

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Hanno Zulla
Hi,

 Ditto. I just tried, and used the shop link given in the
 Nokia mail. Code invalid. Both new and old, in fact.

Same here. Too bad.

Regards,

Hanno
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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Eike Hein
Hanno Zulla wrote:
 Same here. Too bad.

Yeah, it's still non-working for me, too.

Given that the mail suggests we talk to the shop team instead
of the Maemo team at this point (I assume they've given up on
poking them out of frustration ;-), I guess we have to start
calling that 14ct/minute support hotline to try and build up
an awareness there.


 Regards,
 
 Hanno

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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Eike Hein escreveu:
 Hanno Zulla wrote:
 Same here. Too bad.
 
 Yeah, it's still non-working for me, too.
 
 Given that the mail suggests we talk to the shop team instead
 of the Maemo team at this point (I assume they've given up on
 poking them out of frustration ;-), I guess we have to start
 calling that 14ct/minute support hotline to try and build up
 an awareness there.
 

One thing that's worrying me is that the email says the code will be
valid until the end of february and the US store won't have the N810 in
stock until the middle of february (16th IIRC) which creates a narrow
window if we have to compete with all the people who wants the device in US.
I could have chosen a number of different stores around the world but,
as Murphy dictates, I made the worse possible choice... :(

[]s

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Eike Hein
Adilson Oliveira wrote:
 One thing that's worrying me is that the email says the code will be
 valid until the end of february and the US store won't have the N810 in
 stock until the middle of february (16th IIRC) which creates a narrow
 window if we have to compete with all the people who wants the device in US.

I might be the wide-eyed optimistic here, but I guess I
wouldn't worry about that. It would be rather embarass-
ing for Nokia, not to mention unfair, if they don't find
a way to get devices into the hands of US developers in
the event that you can't order in time because the de-
vices aren't in stock. I'd expect the Maemo team to root
for those who'd fall victim to that anyway, since rewar-
ding and motivating developers is the whole point of the
discount program in the first place.

As for Germany, the device is currently reported as in
stock in the shop, and has been for the whole of Christ-
mas and New Year. The codes don't work independently of
that.


 Adilson.

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Adilson Oliveira
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Eike Hein escreveu:

 I might be the wide-eyed optimistic here, but I guess I
 wouldn't worry about that. It would be rather embarass-
 ing for Nokia, not to mention unfair, if they don't find
 a way to get devices into the hands of US developers in
 the event that you can't order in time because the de-
 vices aren't in stock. I'd expect the Maemo team to root
 for those who'd fall victim to that anyway, since rewar-
 ding and motivating developers is the whole point of the
 discount program in the first place.

I hope so as I just checked the website again and it says 19 and not 16
as I wrote before :(

 As for Germany, the device is currently reported as in
 stock in the shop, and has been for the whole of Christ-
 mas and New Year. The codes don't work independently of
 that.

That's awful.

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Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Ed Bartosh
On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 11:20 -0300, ext Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) wrote:
 On Jan 7, 2008 8:41 AM, Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Should we open a project for it on garage?
 
 I don't think it is necessary to do so. There is already a bug[1] in
 GNOME bugzilla regarding the Maemo/Hildon patch. Unfortunately it is
 quite outdated, but I think we should host it there.
 
Are you suggesting to just maintain a patch in GNOME bugzilla instead of
open a project on garage?

From my point of view having project on garage is a bit more than just
that. It's also the place for history of your changes, request tracker,
news and so on, so it's more convenient for users.

What do you think about this?

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Tilman Vogel
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Hi!

Eike Hein schrieb:
 Given that the mail suggests we talk to the shop team instead
 of the Maemo team at this point (I assume they've given up on
 poking them out of frustration ;-), I guess we have to start
 calling that 14ct/minute support hotline to try and build up
 an awareness there.

I just did and gave up after 22 minutes. That is getting too expensive!

BTW if you want to waste your money too, this is the number which is not
/that/ easily found on their site:

01805-258266542

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Re: Build Evince on Maemo

2008-01-07 Thread Eduardo Lima (Etrunko)
Hi,

On Jan 7, 2008 1:47 PM, Ed Bartosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 11:20 -0300, ext Eduardo Lima (Etrunko) wrote:
 Are you suggesting to just maintain a patch in GNOME bugzilla instead of
 open a project on garage?


Kind of... The goal is to integrate the Maemo/Hildon patch to Evince
source tree, just as it was done before for Abiword and Gnumeric for
instance. So, GNOME bugzilla is the right place for that.

 From my point of view having project on garage is a bit more than just
 that. It's also the place for history of your changes, request tracker,
 news and so on, so it's more convenient for users.

 What do you think about this?


What I wouldn't want was to maintain a separate source tree for
Evince. Once the patch is officially integrated to the tree it would
become useless.

Best Regards, Etrunko.

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Eike Hein
Tilman Vogel wrote:
 I just did and gave up after 22 minutes. That is getting too expensive!

Since the support hotline won't pick up, I've written them
using the contact form asking when they expect the German
codes to be come active. I've included links to the Maemo
announcement and so on, since I expect that the support
personnel will not necessarily be aware that there's a dis-
count program going on and this way they might at least ask
someone higher up in the chain (who might then remember he
had to enter some codes somewhere ...).


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Undoing a gtk_widget_tap_and_hold_setup()

2008-01-07 Thread Alberto Garcia
Hi all, is there any way to undo a gtk_widget_tap_and_hold_setup? I
mean, at some point, I don't want a button that had a tap and hold
menu to show it. I tried a tap_and_hold_setup passing a NULL argument
to unset it but it didn't work.

Thanks

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developer program discount code does not work

2008-01-07 Thread Kasper Souren
Three days ago I received a message that I have until February to use
my developer program discount code for the N810. Strangely enough it
was actually a different discount code than the one I had received
before. And neither one is working. Possibly because I don't want to
have it sent to my address in Italy (I'm moving to the Netherlands
next week and receiving packages in Italy is far from ideal). Who
should I contact? Or should I just wait a bit and try again later?

cheers,
Kasper

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Re: developer program discount code does not work

2008-01-07 Thread Andrea Grandi
Hi,

2008/1/7, Kasper Souren [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Three days ago I received a message that I have until February to use
 my developer program discount code for the N810. Strangely enough it
 was actually a different discount code than the one I had received
 before. And neither one is working. Possibly because I don't want to
 have it sent to my address in Italy (I'm moving to the Netherlands
 next week and receiving packages in Italy is far from ideal). Who
 should I contact? Or should I just wait a bit and try again later?

when you signed the form, you had to choose the country where you
would have bought it. If you did choose Italy, the code is valid only
for italian shop.

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Re: Whats the purpose of libegg

2008-01-07 Thread Nigel Tao
On 06/01/2008, Bin Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I searched the internet for libegg and found some tips but still can't
 got whats libegg working for? Is it another useful widget lib?
 After I check out the libegg and catch the README:

   - All features are intended to end up in a stable platform library
  when they're ready.

 Whats the meaning?

My understanding is that libegg is for code that is useful enough to
be shared, but experimental enough to exclude it from a package like
GTK or GLib that promises API stability.  Eventually, as consensus
forms about its design and implementation, the code gets migrated to
the appropriate package, but in the meantime, you just copy and paste
libegg code into your source.
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Re: CFP for embedded room at FOSDEM

2008-01-07 Thread Kees Jongenburger
  Just showing the nokia + canola + efl + mamona would already be a very
  sexy presentation IMHO.
 

 Could be a good lightning talk... http://fosdem.org/2008/lightningtalks
Done, lets hope they like it..
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Suggestions for storing data for Python based Maemo application

2008-01-07 Thread Devraj Mukherjee
Hi all,

We are developing an application for Maemo which is if you like a
custom data collection application for a local firm. The application
is being written in Python 2.5 against the Chinook framework and is
expected to create upto about 200 records (all up). Are there any
general suggestion for what we should use to store data? At this stage
thoughts/options are

- Python object serialization
- XML file
- SQLite database

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Tilman Vogel
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Eike Hein schrieb:
 Since the support hotline won't pick up, I've written them
 using the contact form asking when they expect the German
 codes to be come active. I've included links to the Maemo
 announcement and so on, since I expect that the support
 personnel will not necessarily be aware that there's a dis-
 count program going on and this way they might at least ask
 someone higher up in the chain (who might then remember he
 had to enter some codes somewhere ...).

Good luck, I wrote them a few weeks ago and again when the now active
mail came, but never got any reply. I am not sure that this contact form
is not just going to /dev/null.

Please let us know if you get any reply!

Thanks,

Tilman



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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Massimo Mund
Did someone considered to write a mail to Quim Gil?
Perhaps he can make them take a notice of the problem.

Greetz,
Massimo Mund

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Re: Contribution code, ...

2008-01-07 Thread Eike Hein
Massimo Mund wrote:
  Did someone considered to write a mail to Quim Gil?
  Perhaps he can make them take a notice of the problem.

Well, first of I expect Quim to read this list in
any case, and second the mail did state that we
should talk to the shops directly at this point.


  Greetz,
  Massimo Mund

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Re: N810 Maemo Program/USA Store

2008-01-07 Thread John Mitchell
Nokia Folks,

I would really appreciate some kind of response or information
from Nokia for the folks in the US. The recent N810 maemo program
instructions email was not clear about us and I am concerned that
with what appears to be poor device availability and poor Nokia to
developer community communication that I may loose my chance at
getting a device and thus being able to contribute to the platform. My
project idea _really_ needs a real device for development.
Sadly, I feel something is broken in this process and is making
things needlessly confused and frustrating. I sincerely hope for
everyone involved that things get better shortly as I am struggling to
continue to be excited about the platform with the way things are
going.

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Re: developer program discount code does not work

2008-01-07 Thread Roberto Resoli
2008/1/7, Andrea Grandi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 2008/1/7, Kasper Souren [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Three days ago I received a message that I have until February to use
  my developer program discount code for the N810. Strangely enough it
  was actually a different discount code than the one I had received
  before. And neither one is working. Possibly because I don't want to
  have it sent to my address in Italy (I'm moving to the Netherlands
  next week and receiving packages in Italy is far from ideal). Who
  should I contact? Or should I just wait a bit and try again later?

 when you signed the form, you had to choose the country where you
 would have bought it. If you did choose Italy, the code is valid only
 for italian shop.

I have received too a different code in  last email from nokia.
I have used that code in the italian nokia shop without problems and
I'm currently waiting my n810.
I stated of course my preference for the italian shop formerly.

Cheers,
roberto.
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