Re: N810 available in Germany :-)
It seems to be a problem with your only code. [...] I made my call about 9 AM and i got a line after maybe 30 seconds. So i have good experiences with the german nokia shop. Thanks for encouragement! Today the code got accepted, without calling ;-) Thanks to all who made this happen! I did not try the last days, probably the code would have worked earlier. Cheers, Karl ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: WLAN Horrible Roaming Performance (N800, OS2008), Software or Hardware Problem ?
ext Frank Banul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a home user with two access points. I've noticed that the N810 holds on to the connection with the established AP far longer than the 770 seemed to. I expect to never see low strength signals as the two APs cover my home nicely. But I have not noticed any problems associated with this apparent change in behavior. If you don't see any problems (slow connections etc.) I'm happy. The low signal itself isn't a problem. Thanks for the feedback. -- Kalle Valo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Maemo Extras Guidelines
Hi, ext Graham Cobb wrote: As Nokia host it, they will probably want to say something like packages will be removed if there appear to be serious patent concerns. Nokia currently defines what you just said through the http://maemo.org/legal/terms_of_use.html , that affect also the extras extras-devel repositories. [1] Said that, Nokia hasn't got a team of lawyers watching any new version released by the community in maemo.org. We don't expect either the community to be aware of all patents, and specially not encumbered patents. The story changes when an application approaches official status, is shipped in the devices, is distributed in commercial terms and so on. But these cases shouldn't be of your concern in the extras / extras-devel discussion, really. [1] Among other things, there you find: -- (a) you will not post, publish, transmit, distribute, or upload any information through the Site that is unlawful or fraudulent, or violates or infringes any patent, copyright, trademark, trade secret or any other proprietary intellectual property rights of others. In connection therewith you represent and war- rant to Nokia that your content does not infringe the trademarks, copyrights, patents, or other intellectual property rights of any third parties; -- and also -- Nokia disclaims any liability for claims brought by you or any other entity based on infringement of intellectual property rights or otherwise. You are hereby advised of these issues and therefore assume the sole responsibility to secure any other intellectual property rights and/or licenses that may be needed. -- and even -- In the event Nokia deems, at its exclusive discretion, that you are in breach of these Site Terms, Nokia shall take any action... -- Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Packaging images into deb
Guillem Jover wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 10:17:12 -0500, ext Levi Bard wrote: # Example Makefile # The DESTDIR is important for dpkg This is not only for dpkg or Debian, this is how proper upstream build systems should behave, to ease packaging the software. It allows to install in a different directory than the one it was built for, so that you can relocate when creating the packages. I implemeted this. Works now. Thanks. -- Arto Karppinen -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Two .install file questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Green wrote: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/osso-application-installer/doc/repository.txt (is there something newer? I cant find anything.) gives information about the key names for maemo 2.0 (repo_deb) and 3.0 (rep_deb_3) but not for the latest image. Am I right in guessing that it should be rep_deb_4? The documentation is on hildon-app-mgr's pages in garage[1]. The new format allows you to have multiple repositories defined in one .install file. This has been quite a frequent wish in the past. [1]: http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/install-stable.html - -- Santtu Lakkala -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHqFgmX9Rc0+po4p0RAlCJAJwKMxUR2XwAf9P7jwCadQfwXqadbgCgl3qQ iDrpKPdQp8Xyn2WxiXiCPTQ= =dejG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: CFP for embedded room at FOSDEM
On Feb 5, 2008 11:29 AM, Kees Jongenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 7, 2008 9:07 PM, Kees Jongenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just showing the nokia + canola + efl + mamona would already be a very sexy presentation IMHO. Could be a good lightning talk... http://fosdem.org/2008/lightningtalks Done, lets hope they like it.. Hi , I am unhappy to announce they did not accept my proposal. still I would like to meet some maemo hackers at fosdem so I am open to new suggestions Oh damn! Well I am interested in meeting others as well. Maybe meet up at the Embedded DevRoom and if needed go elsewhere of maemo specific chats... Greetings -- Nick Loeve www.trickie.org ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Two .install file questions
https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/osso-application-installer/doc/repository.txt (is there something newer? I cant find anything.) gives information about the key names for maemo 2.0 (repo_deb) and 3.0 (rep_deb_3) but not for the latest image. Am I right in guessing that it should be rep_deb_4? Also, is there something special I need to do in order to get the downloads page to serve up the install file properly? My old version (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2007/apache/) works fine, but my port to the OS2008 (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/apache/) is just treating the install file as a text file that should be displayed in the browser rather than handled externally. Even if I use the install file for the OS2007 version the same thing happens, so I'm assuming it isn't a problem with the file content. -- Tony Green Ipswich, Suffolk, England http://www.beermad.org.uk http://no2id-ip.web-brewer.co.uk ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
FOSDEM 2008 Maemo meeting.
Hi all. I've created a wiki page to coordinate a meeting at FOSDEM 2008. Please add your name to http://maemo.org/community/wiki/fosdem2008maemomeeting/ if you want to meet with other maemo community members. All ideas about where to meet and when, can be recorded in the wiki. This way everybody can see what is going on. - Niels ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Curious: Maemo devices other than Nokia?
Hi, ext Mikhail Sobolev wrote: Exactly, Ross! I usually visualize relationship between different bits using the following picture (please use a fixed width font): +--++--+ | | Maemo SDK | | +--+++--+--+ |API |Open|Open| Open |Closed| +--+++--+--+ |Implementation|Open|Open|Closed|Closed| +--+++--+--+ | | IT OS 200X | +---+--+ The part that is covered by Maemo (and Maemo SDK) is not enough to produce a somewhat reasonable system, which: 1) is bootable 2) has support for all hardware 3) has a comparable to IT OS 2008 set of applications The really challenging areas are 2) and 3). I believe certain work to make sure that 1) does not have any challenges is planned, but probably it's up to Quim to confirm. :) There has been some internal work, yes, done in the context of those potential plans for having maemo published as a linux distro. However, since the response has been between mild and mixed now we are not moving much this option. Also, http://dev.openbossa.org/trac/mamona/ came to the game and, well, that project is about doing some of the stuff people in this thread is willing to have. You know Nokia's core mission is to develop products that sell and are profitable. Open source is an important element used in the tablets to achieve that, but for Nokia it's not an objective in itself. If you look at the size of the binaries, most of the maemo platform is open source, but there are components that are closed - for one or another reason. From a Nokia point of view there must be reasons for each case to move from closed to open, be it a browser, an email client or an input method framework. Actually this is the reason why https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1584 is not progressing much. It would be more effective to select one component and say: opening this component would be useful because of A, B, C. This is what happened to the input method framework, and Nokia opened it. Quim ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: CFP for embedded room at FOSDEM
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 nick loeve escreveu: Oh damn! Well I am interested in meeting others as well. Maybe meet up at the Embedded DevRoom and if needed go elsewhere of maemo specific chats... Hmmm... I submitted a paper (about Ubuntu Mobile and Embedded, which also uses Maemo) but didn't receive any answer so far. []s Adilson. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHqGBD2cB5Bt7H7YARAootAKCevrjC7Aki19cPVyez+eZm6MillQCgg9nj Ip0cUX0yZzvcyt9N4pPmtGg= =6nr4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
TCP socket library
All, I'm fairly new to maemo development (but not to C/C++) and am starting an application for my N800. I need to use TCP sockets and was wondering if there was any high level library to do that. I saw references to SDL_net for maemo 2, but not maemo 4 (and indeed, it is not installed on my nokia or in the devel environment). Would anybody have anything to suggest? TIA, Fred ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: FOSDEM 2008 Maemo meeting.
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 02:18:49PM +0100, Niels Breet wrote: I've created a wiki page to coordinate a meeting at FOSDEM 2008. Please add your name to http://maemo.org/community/wiki/fosdem2008maemomeeting/ if you want to meet with other maemo community members. Good idea, it's worth a post in the Maemo/Gnome planets also :) -- Alberto García González http://people.igalia.com/berto/ ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: TCP socket library
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 13:28 +, ext Fred Labrosse wrote: All, I'm fairly new to maemo development (but not to C/C++) and am starting an application for my N800. I need to use TCP sockets and was wondering if there was any high level library to do that. I saw references to SDL_net for maemo 2, but not maemo 4 (and indeed, it is not installed on my nokia or in the devel environment). Would anybody have anything to suggest? I'm using libcurl. It's part of the SDK http://curl.rtin.bz/libcurl/c/ The only 2 problems are: 1) It doesn't have dict support. 2) https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2261 (Seems fixed but not yet released ?) Cheers, -- Localization Engineer OSSO - Nokia Multimedia ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
custom dialog
Ho, i'm approcing the development on my new cool nokia device, but i can't find info on how to make a very simple thing. I've a treeview and i need to edit the entry in one row. i don't want to open another window only for some info to edit or enter, so i'm looking for how opening a custom dialog box ( like many apps actually do) for get the info i need to retrieve. I'm using python, but if you know how to do this in other language is fine anyway. thanks a lot -- michele tameni http://www.amdplanet.it ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Init script woes
On Fri, Feb 01, 2008 at 05:58:42PM +, Tony Green wrote: I wonder if anybody can shed any light on a strange (and annoying) problem I'm having persuading dpkg to install init scripts for a package. I have an init script in the right place in my development tree (~/httpd-2.2.8/debian/init.d), hd_installinit is un-commented in ~/httpd-2.2.8/debian/rules and when I manually un-pick the .deb file, data.tar.gz correctly contains ./etc/init.d/httpd. But... when I actually install the package, I end up without an init file. The problem appears to be somewhere in the configuration phase, as if I unpack the package, I see /etc/init.d/httpd.dpkg-new but when I then configure the package, it disappears. Running with debug and some tracing suggests that it's being deleted by whatever process runs just before my postinst script is called. Have you solved this problem already? If not, perhaps this might be relevant: http://www.davidpashley.com/blog/2008/02/05#confmiss This is happening with the latest version of the development environment, but reverting to the OS2007 version, it's also happening there. But the fact that I DID have an init script in place suggests I've somehow managed to get this to work at some stage in my early development work (I forgot to include deletion in the postrm script, so it must have been left there by an earlier attempt.) It does sound like you stumbled on the exact same feature that's described in the blog post. HTH, Marius Gedminas -- While preceding your entrance with a grenade is a good tactic in Quake, it can lead to problems if attempted at work. -- C Hacking signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
maemo under the trunks
Hi all: Do somebody know how to access to maemo's kernel latest code you know like kernel.org, but the maemo's one, I have tried using the maemo's subversion repository bur couldn't find it, also would like to access to the filesystem and boot loader are they using u-boot or x-loader or something like that, where is the maemo's code, and how to get build a home brew initfs for N800 and the root file system? I mean, can I flash the arm rootstrap to the N800? I know, I ain't the sharpest guy on earl but I would like your help to really rip maemos up, and see what really are behind the trunks, If I not misstated, this is one of ideas of open source. Regards Rodrigo ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
