Re: Using the scrollbar on the N810

2008-02-21 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi,

ext Richard Booth wrote:
 Thanks for reply. Yeah I know you can use dpad and space bar, I used
 to use the N800 this way. Though I find if I'm browsing a bookmarked
 site on the N810 I don't have the keyboard open to use the dpad, and
 want to use the screen for scrolling, but it's awkward. 
 
 However I'm living with it, actually switching off screen tap sounds,
 so I don't hear the machine gun click when using the scollbar, helps, as
 I'm not reminded off it, unless the scrolling goes the opposite way.

Machine gun click?

You said earlier that:
  If I try to grab the bar with the stylus and scroll down I can end up
  leaving the scroll bar behind, with a series of clicks and sometimes
  the scrolling goes the opposite way.

I.e. you're really getting multiple stylus taps *while* dragging
the stylus?  We had that kind of an issue in the Os2008 Beta, but
AFAIK it should be fixed in the final OS2008 release (50-2).


- Eero

 Anyway it seems you guys at Nokia are aware of it, if you can improve
 the scrolling for a future OS release that would be great. I've added
 my bit to bug 2961.
 
 Cheers
 Richard
 
 On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:54:52 +0200
 Eero Tamminen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm not sure whether this helps, but you can scroll the page with
 long-press of the down key in keyboard.  Short press moves just to
 next link.
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Re: Where is the Debian Packaging app? [In Maemo SDK Vmware Appliance]

2008-02-21 Thread nick loeve
Hi

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 7:07 PM, Merrick Fonnesbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 I am developing on Windows XP, and so I downloaded and installed the Maemo
 SDK VMware appliance application and got the EclipseIDE up and created a
 simple application.  Now I am looking to port it to my N810, and I was told
 to use Debian Package manager/application to create a Debian package to port
 it over.  The question is, where is it located or how can I get to it?

Check out 
http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/creating_a_debian_package.html

Debian packaging is a big topic, and lots more info is available from debian.org

  If
 it's not on the image, how can I get it downloaded and installed so that I
 can use it?  I have not been able to get internet access working on the
 image, so that might present a problem.  Anyone who can help it would be
 appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: How to detect Maemo in automake?

2008-02-21 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Wednesday, 20 of February 2008, Alberto Garcia napisał:
 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 02:00:50PM +, Ross Burton wrote:
Now for my next question: How do i detect maemo correctly in
autoconf?

 I think that he meant how to *detect* Maemo (i.e, without having to
 ask the user).

 I used to check for the existence of libosso, but since it's available
 in Debian (http://packages.debian.org/libosso) I'm also checking
 whether we're running inside the scratchbox, so you could use
 something like this:

 if $PKG_CONFIG --exists libosso  readlink /etc|grep -q ^/targets;
 then DETECTED_PLATFORM=maemo
 fi

 If there's an official way (or just a better one) to detect if we're
 compiling for Maemo I'd like to know.

I wonder why this is really needed... If application is for Maemo then it 
use its libraries (libosso, libhildon) and should check for those 
libraries not for scratchbox. 

Or --enable-maemo switch should be used - if someone wants to build 
software for Maemo then adding one parametr to ./configure call should 
be enough.

Think about people who use normal cross-compilation (for example 
OpenEmbedded) instead of scarybox.

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Re: How to detect Maemo in automake?

2008-02-21 Thread Juha Kallioinen
ext Till Harbaum / Lists wrote:
 Am Mittwoch 20 Februar 2008 schrieb Juha Kallioinen:
 As of now it's available for Gregale, latest Bora and Chinook SDKs. It was
 an afterthought, so unfortunately it's not installed in those by default as
 of yet. So in many ways it's not universally usable right now. Any future
 release of the SDK will have it there by default.
 Very nice, i'll give it a try.
 
 Wouldn't a deb build dependency to maemo-version-dev even resolve the problem 
 that it's not installed by default?

Well yes, but aren't you then just limited to maemo environment?

I think the  original question in this thread was how to detect maemo in 
automake to enable some maemo specific features and if you just put a build 
dependency to maemo-version then it won't be buildable in any other 
environment since the package isn't available in other environments.

Cheers,
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Re: How to detect Maemo in automake?

2008-02-21 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:15:31AM +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:

 I wonder why this is really needed... If application is for Maemo   
 then it use its libraries (libosso, libhildon) and should check for 
 those libraries not for scratchbox. 

Yeah, but if your desktop PC happens to have libosso installed (it's
included in Debian) then autoconf will detect that you're compiling
for Maemo.

In my case compiling for Maemo means compiling using the Maemo SDK
(and probably for the Nokia 770/N800/N810). And scratchbox seems to be
the official way to use the Maemo SDK.

Anyway that was only an example that I think is probably good enough
for most cases. If not, just pass the --enable-maemo switch to
override autodetection and that's it :)

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Re: How to detect Maemo in automake?

2008-02-21 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday, 21 of February 2008, Alberto Garcia napisał:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:15:31AM +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
  I wonder why this is really needed... If application is for Maemo
  then it use its libraries (libosso, libhildon) and should check for
  those libraries not for scratchbox.

 Yeah, but if your desktop PC happens to have libosso installed (it's
 included in Debian) then autoconf will detect that you're compiling
 for Maemo.

If you screw configure phase by not providing informations where headers 
are then it can. But its bug of person who do compilation.

 In my case compiling for Maemo means compiling using the Maemo SDK
 (and probably for the Nokia 770/N800/N810). And scratchbox seems to be
 the official way to use the Maemo SDK.

It does not mean that it is best way ;D 

I heard enough complains about scarybox to not even touch it with long 
stick. With OE I can just bitbake gvim and result is package which 
works on device. No need to remember which libraries to build (and how).

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OpenEmbedded

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Key
Following on from the How to detect Maemo for building...,  Marcin 
Juszkiewicz specifies OE for package building. Using, say, Chinook SDK has 
anyone used OE to build a complete rootfs and flash on device or use the MMC? 
If so, what BitBake configurations were used (I notice there are some N800 .bb 
files present). What toolchain is used for the compilation?

I'm new to OE and fairly new to Linux development, have been using Scratchbox 
for as long as I've done Linux devel (which isn't long), so any help is 
appreciated.

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Developing applications in Flash

2008-02-21 Thread Alfie Kirkpatrick
I notice that the Getting Started applet is a full screen Flash
application.

 

Does anyone know how this is achieved, specifically:

 

-  How to add to start menu

-  How to add to desktop

-  How to launch the swf

-  Does it have to be full screen?

 

I'm interested in how one might write applications for OS2008 using
Flash alone, in order to make development easier for the new breed of
Flex developers!

 

Does anyone think it would be possible to develop Flash apps that make
use of the Hildon menus, etc? This would presumably need native calls
from Flash and I'm not sure this is currently possible.

 

In the medium/long term it would be great to see Adobe AIR fully
supported on OS2008. See http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air.

 

Regards, Alfie.

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Ip Address of the device

2008-02-21 Thread Basavaraj B
Hi,

I m quite new to Linux.
How can I find the ip address of the device.

I tried ip addr command in xterm. But command is not present in device.

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Re: OpenEmbedded

2008-02-21 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Dnia Thursday, 21 of February 2008, Ian Key napisał:

 Following on from the How to detect Maemo for building...,  Marcin
 Juszkiewicz specifies OE for package building. 

 Using, say, Chinook SDK has anyone used OE to build a complete rootfs
 and flash on device or use the MMC? 

OpenEmbedded use 'chinook-compat' distro configuration to build packages 
compatible with OS2008. It is not used to build whole rootfs. I do not 
remember does OE already has kernel from OS2008 or not - if not then I 
will add it soon. 

This kernel it is present in Poky which is derivated from OE and used by 
OpenedHand. You can run Poky on any Nokia tablet - we (I work for OH) 
provide rootfs + kernel on http://pokylinux.org/ website (look into 
autobuilder output).

 If so, what BitBake configurations were used (I notice there are some
 N800 .bb files present). 

MACHINE=nokia800 supports N800 and N810.

 What toolchain is used for the compilation? 

CSL 3.4.4 - same as in Chinook SDK but built from source instead of using 
binaries.

 I'm new to OE and fairly new to Linux development, have been using
 Scratchbox for as long as I've done Linux devel (which isn't long), so
 any help is appreciated.

Grab OE, setup and then set DISTRO=chinook-compat MACHINE=nokia800 and 
try to build software.

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Re: Ip Address of the device

2008-02-21 Thread Iñigo Illán Aranburu
Command is /sbin/ifconfig


On jue, 2008-02-21 at 17:48 +0530, Basavaraj B wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I m quite new to Linux.
 How can I find the ip address of the device.
 
 I tried ip addr command in xterm. But command is not present in
 device.
 
 Regards,
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Re: Ip Address of the device

2008-02-21 Thread Basavaraj B
Thank you very much for the help.

we need to type /sbin/ifconfig to get ip on xterm as suggested by Iñigo
Illán Aranburu

or we can use ip address menu from connection manager as suggested by
anidel

Regards,
Basavaraj



On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Iñigo Illán Aranburu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Command is /sbin/ifconfig



 On jue, 2008-02-21 at 17:48 +0530, Basavaraj B wrote:

 Hi,

 I m quite new to Linux.
 How can I find the ip address of the device.

 I tried ip addr command in xterm. But command is not present in device.

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Maemo SDK VMware Image 0.5

2008-02-21 Thread Marcelo Lira
Hi all,

I released a new version of the Maemo SDK VMware Image. It's mostly
the same as 0.4, with the following changes:

* Eclipse 3.3.1.1 with CDT 4.0.2, PyDev and ESbox 1.3.5 plugins.
* Using Open VM Tools ver. 2008.01.23-74039
* Increased virtual disk size, by popular demand.

Get it here: http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/

If you have 0.4 and just want to resize the virtual disk, there are
instructions on how to do it in this thread[1], and if you feel brave
enough can avoid the 2.2 Gb download.


[1] http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2008-February/014639.html

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Re: Ip Address of the device

2008-02-21 Thread Duong Chien Thang
Hi,
You can try ifconfig

Br,
Duong Chien Thang.

On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 17:48 +0530, Basavaraj B wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I m quite new to Linux.
 How can I find the ip address of the device.
 
 I tried ip addr command in xterm. But command is not present in
 device.
 
 Regards,
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[Maemo App Integration]Fail to launch app from TaskNavigator(TN)

2008-02-21 Thread 陈凯
Hi everyone,

I've got some trouble in app integration after i finished my simple python
script on maemo 3.2.  As the tutorial says, I wrote a .desktop file and a
.service file for integration with Maemo AF. Unfortunately it didn't seem to
work.  My app doesn't start after a long time 'loading'.  I referred
to some materials on libosso reference for python and tried to modify
these files a little
bit, but the consequence remained the same.  When I transfer all the files
to scratchbox and run it, sbox tells an information: 'we could not read
lowmem page stats'.  What is it supposed to mean??

Here is the script code and integration file I've written.  Is there any
place wrong??

#Here is the Python script name: pymaemo
# nothing but a hildon.Window
#!/usr/bin/env python2.5

import gtk
import hildon
import osso

class TestWindow( hildon.Program ) :
def __init__( self ) :
hildon.Program.__init__( self )
self.window = hildon.Window()
self.window.set_title( 'pymaemo demo' )
self.window.connect( 'delete_event', lambda *w: gtk.main_quit() )
self.window.show()

if __name__ == __main__ :
osso_c = osso.Context( 'python_for_maemo', '1.0', False )
window = TestWindow()
gtk.main()

# Here is the desktop file name: python_for_maemo.desktop
[Desktop Entry]
Version='1.0'
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Python for Maemo Demo!
Exec=/usr/bin/pymaemo
Type=Application
X-Osso-Service=python_for_maemo
X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable

# Here is the service file name : python_for_maemo.service
[D-BUS Service]
Name=com.nokia.python_for_maemo
Exec=/usr/bin/pymaemo

Finally, I copied the python script to /usr/bin/, desktop file to
/usr/share/application/hildon/
and service file to /usr/share/dbus-1/services.  That's all what I did
in desktop
integration.  Did I miss something or do something wrong here?  Thanks
for your advice in advance
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root password in OS 2008

2008-02-21 Thread Basavaraj B
Hi,

I installed DropBear on device to access device through ssh. When I try to
connect, it asks for root password.
rootme will not work in OS 2008.

Please suggest me if any one is connecting to device through ssh.

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Re: root password in OS 2008

2008-02-21 Thread pancake
Put the device in RD mode and change it.

$ 0x -Rr 1

.. reboot ..

$ sudo gainroot
# passwd root
New password: *
Repeat password: *

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PD: I have recently added basic support for n810 (it should work
everything, but not tested yet).

More news will come soon..

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 Hi,

 I installed DropBear on device to access device through ssh. When I try to
 connect, it asks for root password.
 rootme will not work in OS 2008.

 Please suggest me if any one is connecting to device through ssh.

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Re: [Maemo App Integration]Fail to launch app from TaskNavigator(TN)

2008-02-21 Thread Daniel Martin Yerga
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Hash: SHA1

Hi.

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:15:52 +0800
陈凯 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I've got some trouble in app integration after i finished my simple
 python script on maemo 3.2.  As the tutorial says, I wrote a .desktop
 file and a .service file for integration with Maemo AF. Unfortunately
 it didn't seem to work.  My app doesn't start after a long time
 'loading'.  I referred to some materials on libosso reference for
 python and tried to modify these files a little
 bit, but the consequence remained the same.  When I transfer all the
 files to scratchbox and run it, sbox tells an information: 'we could
 not read lowmem page stats'.  What is it supposed to mean??
 
 Here is the script code and integration file I've written.  Is there
 any place wrong??
 
 #Here is the Python script name: pymaemo
 # nothing but a hildon.Window
 #!/usr/bin/env python2.5
 
 import gtk
 import hildon
 import osso
 
 class TestWindow( hildon.Program ) :
 def __init__( self ) :
 hildon.Program.__init__( self )
 self.window = hildon.Window()
 self.window.set_title( 'pymaemo demo' )
 self.window.connect( 'delete_event', lambda *w:
 gtk.main_quit() ) self.window.show()
 
 if __name__ == __main__ :
 osso_c = osso.Context( 'python_for_maemo', '1.0', False )
 window = TestWindow()
 gtk.main()
 
 # Here is the desktop file name: python_for_maemo.desktop
 [Desktop Entry]
 Version='1.0'
 Encoding=UTF-8
 Name=Python for Maemo Demo!
 Exec=/usr/bin/pymaemo
 Type=Application
 X-Osso-Service=python_for_maemo
 X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable
 
 # Here is the service file name : python_for_maemo.service
 [D-BUS Service]
 Name=com.nokia.python_for_maemo
 Exec=/usr/bin/pymaemo
 
 Finally, I copied the python script to /usr/bin/, desktop file to
 /usr/share/application/hildon/
 and service file to /usr/share/dbus-1/services.  That's all what I did
 in desktop
 integration.  Did I miss something or do something wrong here?  Thanks
 for your advice in advance

You could try run the application from osso-xterm or ssh , and
see if in this way there is some error.
Perhaps, /usr/bin/pymaemo is not executable.
I don't see any error in the code that you have added.

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Re: Where is the Debian Packaging app? [In Maemo SDK Vmware Appliance]

2008-02-21 Thread Marcelo Lira
Merrick,
can't you get network access from inside scratchbox or from the image
as a whole?

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Re: hildon.TimePicker: HOW TO SET INITIAL TIME?

2008-02-21 Thread Daniel Martin Yerga
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Hi.

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:22:11 -0600
Darren Enns [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, my ignorance is showing again...
 
 http://maemo.org/development/documentation/apis/3-x/python-maemo-3.x/pyhildon_timepicker.html
 
 I know how to call 'hildon.Timepicker', but the widget starts up with 
 '06:00' as the initial value.  From the docs, it *looks* like I
 should be able to override this with my own initial values for 'hour'
 and 'minute', but I don't know enough about Python (yet) to
 understand how to do this (from simply reading the docs and not
 having an example to use).
 
 It would appear (from the docs) that I should use something like this
 in my code:
 
 |hildon.Class.set_time(hours, minutes)
 
 |The 'hildon.CalendarPopup' is more intuitive to me, since setting
 the initial year/month/day is part of the call to the function itself.
 
 Thanks

It means you need to use something like this:

time_picker = hildon.Timepicker(parent)
time_picker.set_time(hours, minutes)

In the docs, it may not be easy to understand the hildon.Class.set...,
especially if you are learning python, as in your case.

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Re: OpenEmbedded

2008-02-21 Thread Ian Key
Thanks for the response Marcin :)

Toolchains and environments are a nightmare. Scratchbox is good, but I find it 
hard to know how to set up new environments, for example, the NSLU2/Slug (and 
that's without the different variants of the Slug images!!!). I see OE has 
various Slug types and I am still trying to get bootstrap-image to compile 
properly for a slug :(  If I can do N8x0 on OE instead of Scratchbox, it makes 
maintenance musch easier :)

I will check out Poky as well

Ian

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From: Marcin Juszkiewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: maemo-developers@maemo.org
Sent: Thursday, 21 February, 2008 12:21:33 PM
Subject: Re: OpenEmbedded

Dnia Thursday, 21 of February 2008, Ian Key napisał:

 Following on from the How to detect Maemo for building...,  Marcin
 Juszkiewicz specifies OE for package building. 

 Using, say, Chinook SDK has anyone used OE to build a complete rootfs
 and flash on device or use the MMC? 

OpenEmbedded use 'chinook-compat' distro configuration to build packages 
compatible with OS2008. It is not used to build whole rootfs. I do not 
remember does OE already has kernel from OS2008 or not - if not then I 
will add it soon. 

This kernel it is present in Poky which is derivated from OE and used by 
OpenedHand. You can run Poky on any Nokia tablet - we (I work for OH) 
provide rootfs + kernel on http://pokylinux.org/ website (look into 
autobuilder output).

 If so, what BitBake configurations were used (I notice there are some
 N800 .bb files present). 

MACHINE=nokia800 supports N800 and N810.

 What toolchain is used for the compilation? 

CSL 3.4.4 - same as in Chinook SDK but built from source instead of using 
binaries.

 I'm new to OE and fairly new to Linux development, have been using
 Scratchbox for as long as I've done Linux devel (which isn't long), so
 any help is appreciated.

Grab OE, setup and then set DISTRO=chinook-compat MACHINE=nokia800 and 
try to build software.

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Re: hildon.TimePicker: HOW TO SET INITIAL TIME?

2008-02-21 Thread Darren Enns
Daniel Martin Yerga wrote:
 It means you need to use something like this:

 time_picker = hildon.Timepicker(parent)
 time_picker.set_time(hours, minutes)
   
 In the docs, it may not be easy to understand the hildon.Class.set...,
 especially if you are learning python, as in your case.
Thanks Daniel!  You are correct that this stuff is tricky for a Python 
beginner -- which I why I am usually forced to Google for an answer from 
people that have already encountered the issue/question.  However, in 
this case, Google had *no links* for anyone on this issue -- except for 
the 'syntax' page that I mentioned :(

Dare

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Re: Where is the Debian Packaging app? [In Maemo SDK Vmware Appliance]

2008-02-21 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Marcelo Lira wrote:
 Merrick,
 can't you get network access from inside scratchbox or from the image
 as a whole?

   
This is something that happens to me too.  You need to make sure that 
outside scratchbox you have it set to DHCP and inside scratchbox in 
every target /etc/resolv.conf must point to whatever it does outside of 
scratchbox - a virtual address from VMWare.

Ryan
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home web shortcut

2008-02-21 Thread Frédéric Charrier
Hi,

after developping my Flash application, I would like to give a home
icon for the user to launch it easily.

Is there a simple way to make a home icon which will run the browser ?
Do I really need to make an applet ? Or is there a way to make a
windows like shortcut file ?

Thanks,
Frédéric


  
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Re: Is there any way to build Maemo applications which can run on N800 outside of the scratchbox

2008-02-21 Thread Ken Bloom
On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:00:20 +0800, Huang Gao wrote:

 Dear all:
 
I am going to do some application development test on N800,
however I
 do not want to use scratchbox. And I am really confused of how to
 extract the cross compiler tool chain from Scratchbox and make it run in
 my Linux environment.

Development for an N800 outside scratchbox is not easy to do. 
Theoretically, I could do emdebian development for my Nokia, but the 
dependencies of the compiled applications would be all wrong. I have not 
succeded at doing qemu emulation of a maemo build environment, although 
that would potentially be very nice.

You'll probably need to build/download your own cross-compiler. What's 
your objection with scratchbox? Too big? If so, I've had success using my 
Maemo rootstrap with scratchbox 2, which is a much more generic tool. I 
did find that I've had to put some work into hacking the path mapping 
script that scratchbox 2 uses to get the right paths mapped in and out of 
the build root, but nothing too difficult.

--Ken

-- 
Ken (Chanoch) Bloom. PhD candidate. Linguistic Cognition Laboratory.
Department of Computer Science. Illinois Institute of Technology.
http://www.iit.edu/~kbloom1/

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Re: Where is the Debian Packaging app? [In Maemo SDK Vmware Appliance]

2008-02-21 Thread Marcelo Lira
Ryan,

the resolv.conf inside scratchbox will be ok when run with the
shortcut in the desktop, since it copies the virtual system
resolv.conf to all sbox targets.
About the system resolve.conf, i will take a look at it to find and
fix the problem ASAP. Unfortunately it's a bit tricky to test the
image in other machines, for its massive file size being a problem to
move around machines (maybe the engineers of Stonehenge had a similar
problem), so I thank you a lot for the reports.

Regards,

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Re: Is there any way to build Maemo applications which can run on N800 outside of the scratchbox

2008-02-21 Thread Ryan Pavlik
Ken Bloom wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:00:20 +0800, Huang Gao wrote:

   
 Dear all:

I am going to do some application development test on N800,
however I
 do not want to use scratchbox. And I am really confused of how to
 extract the cross compiler tool chain from Scratchbox and make it run in
 my Linux environment.
 

 Development for an N800 outside scratchbox is not easy to do. 
 Theoretically, I could do emdebian development for my Nokia, but the 
 dependencies of the compiled applications would be all wrong. I have not 
 succeded at doing qemu emulation of a maemo build environment, although 
 that would potentially be very nice.

 You'll probably need to build/download your own cross-compiler. What's 
 your objection with scratchbox? Too big? If so, I've had success using my 
 Maemo rootstrap with scratchbox 2, which is a much more generic tool. I 
 did find that I've had to put some work into hacking the path mapping 
 script that scratchbox 2 uses to get the right paths mapped in and out of 
 the build root, but nothing too difficult.

 --Ken

   
IIRC there is a Scratchbox 2-based build system now available for Maemo, 
called Maemo SDK+ which might save you some effort there.

Ryan
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Re: root password in OS 2008

2008-02-21 Thread Basavaraj B
openssh does not work on N810  (might be built for OS2007)

Regards,
Basavaraj



On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:45 AM, Marius Gedminas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 06:59:25PM +0530, Basavaraj B wrote:
  I installed DropBear on device to access device through ssh. When I try
 to
  connect, it asks for root password.
  rootme will not work in OS 2008.
 
  Please suggest me if any one is connecting to device through ssh.

 I installed openssh (not dropbear) and it prompted me to set the root
 password during installation time.  After that I can ssh into the device
 as root with the password I chose.

 Marius Gedminas
 --
 What goes up, must come down. Ask any system administrator.

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openssh (was Re: root password in OS 2008)

2008-02-21 Thread Jussi Kukkonen
Basavaraj B wrote:
 openssh does not work on N810  (might be built for OS2007)
 

Openssh is available from Extras repo for 2007 and 2008, and works fine
on both systems. However, the .install-file on
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/openssh/ is missing the line
for 2008. This probably threw you off.

CCing Ed to make sure he sees this.

HTH,
  Jussi
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