Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented Re: Maemo Bug Jar #19
Stephen Gadsby wrote: A Quick Look at maemo Bugzilla (https://bugs.maemo.org/). 2008-08-18 through 2008-08-24 Hi, I am missing bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented in your list. Maybe there is bug somewhere? I even hoped people would have a look at it and add few comments when it is mentioned in bug jar. I would like to know how this should really work. In fact I should perhaps fill another bug. But since I don't know how it should work I'm not sure this is bug or feature. I am building scummvm as one package installable in all IT200x systems. It worked fine but recently I noticed one little issue. With OS2008 we have big nice icons by default in menu. I do supply lot of icons at random sizes in upcoming 0.12 release but still OS2008 shows small icon unless I remove scummvm.xpm and rebuild icon cache and reboot. Unfortunately OS2006 works only with this icon, it doesn't see other png ones. So currently I hacked it to check OS version and remove xpm icon in postinst script on OS2007 and up but I don't think this is proper solution. If someone is interested in checking the package, it is here http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23071 Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented Re: Maemo Bug Jar #19
Hi, I am missing bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented This is a web site bug, and the Bug Jar stopped including those a few weeks ago. It focuses on just Maemo software now, as several people commented the web site bugs were unnecessary noise in the summaries. -stephen ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented Re: Maemo Bug Jar #19
Stephen J. Gadsby wrote: Hi, I am missing bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented This is a web site bug, and the Bug Jar stopped including those a few weeks ago. It focuses on just Maemo software now, as several people commented the web site bugs were unnecessary noise in the summaries. I'm not sure that this is a 'website' bug. IMNSHO it's a bug against the library documentation. If the documentation included this information and it wasn't visible on the site - that would be a website bug. David - who thinks that documentation bugs should be a higher priority than anything except *maybe* a remote root exploit. Maybe. ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented Re: Maemo Bug Jar #19
David Greaves wrote: Stephen J. Gadsby wrote: Hi, I am missing bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented This is a web site bug, and the Bug Jar stopped including those a few weeks ago. It focuses on just Maemo software now, as several people commented the web site bugs were unnecessary noise in the summaries. I'm not sure that this is a 'website' bug. I am not sure too. When I reported it I tried to file it in Maemo Software - Documentation then Maemo Software - Development platform but did not find any suitable component. At last I simply clicked link Improve this page on the bottom of http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/maemo_4-0_tutorial.html I was not happy about the Website category from the beginning but now I see there is additional disadvantage of being lost in the noise :-) Frantisek ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Darios, why not consider the development/use a Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone and go from there with the already existing VOIP components in maemo? Here is the url to an abstract of a recent article from the IEEE communications magazine that discusses Voice over Zigbee. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4427240 A solution like this may, in fact, be cleaner than trying to jam an 802.11 mesh router into maemo. I don't know of any Zigbee USB dongles that have been tested with the N800 or N810 but others on this list might have tried one out. Here is the url to the www page that describes one such Zigbee USB dongle: http://adaptivemodules.com/integration_ia_oem-daub1_2400.htm A quick scan of the data sheet for this product suggests that it can form a mesh with other nodes.It also has Linux drivers. Here is the url to the www page for the Adobe Acrobat .pdf of the data sheet: http://adaptivemodules.com/assets/File/integration_802-15-4_usb%20dongle.pdf Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Hi, looking for developers, contact persons for pending P2P VOIP, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Gizmo and the like project. What I am going to learn and work on is VOIP local telephony, like one developed by Robertson. Pls tell me if Gizmo P2P VOIP is still working, at what development state and how to have such project to work peer-2-peer in ad-hoc mode (meant locally, no server based). How to access a list of active users of Gizmo (meant available on and active). Just tested some users and voice recorder is all I can connect to. Any ideas are welcome too. Darius Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Hi, could you kindly tell me how to start with VOIP component in maemo ? I have installed Gizmo and works fine, voice quality ok. But I don't need central server . I need local server and ad-hoc peer-2-peer connectivity. Any way to setup Gizmo to run locally, no-server mode, no accessing databases, no charging as local-based wifi use only ? I an say nothing about Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone as not tested yet. To me , integrated antenna solution is not ok for wireless mesh backbone. There is a number of WDS-enabled routers/APs on a market and today called Apple to see how WDS-enabled AirPort works in mesh configuration (unfortunately not tested by local Apple staff ). I just need to know exactly how each specific WDS implementation works (no data yet) and decide or not to write iptables dynamic routing tables on my own. Graph theory for this problem is not really complicated. TSA for mesh networks is exactly what I need to modify to employ network loops for bandwidth management and load balancing. There is a number of self-configurable wireless mesh networks + hardware, decscribed on the net but details how it really works and how any such solution efficient is. I must learn a lot and can write some graphs to describe how I do expect such wireless mesh network should work for me. Some solutions just resemble work of standard switches, replacing LAN ports by wireless ports. Visited Cisco network manuals for standards and procotols again and have to write such protocol, dynamic rerouting , mesh selfconfiguration algorithms from the scratch on myself, drawing a graph of nodes (APs) and simulating connections made and packages tranfer. I did the like job developing Pipes and pipelines at Yahoo. Unfortunately , working alone, it may take me a month or so to learn what I really need and what can be accomplished with standard network hardware available on a market. WDS is my first try. Trying to contact WDS developers to discuss my problem. Thanks. Darius --- On Mon, 25/8/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 4:35 PM Darios, why not consider the development/use a Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone and go from there with the already existing VOIP components in maemo? Here is the url to an abstract of a recent article from the IEEE communications magazine that discusses Voice over Zigbee. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4427240 A solution like this may, in fact, be cleaner than trying to jam an 802.11 mesh router into maemo. I don't know of any Zigbee USB dongles that have been tested with the N800 or N810 but others on this list might have tried one out. Here is the url to the www page that describes one such Zigbee USB dongle: http://adaptivemodules.com/integration_ia_oem-daub1_2400.htm A quick scan of the data sheet for this product suggests that it can form a mesh with other nodes.It also has Linux drivers. Here is the url to the www page for the Adobe Acrobat .pdf of the data sheet: http://adaptivemodules.com/assets/File/integration_802-15-4_usb%20dongle.pdf Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Hi, looking for developers, contact persons for pending P2P VOIP, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Gizmo and the like project. What I am going to learn and work on is VOIP local telephony, like one developed by Robertson. Pls tell me if Gizmo P2P VOIP is still working, at what development state and how to have such project to work peer-2-peer in ad-hoc mode (meant locally, no server based). How to access a list of active users of Gizmo (meant available on and active). Just tested some users and voice recorder is all I can connect to. Any ideas are welcome too. Darius Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Darius, you might also want to look into what Meraki has done with single (802.11g) wireless mesh radio systems/products. http://meraki.com/ They recently secured additional VC so their www site has been upgraded along with their products! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Darius Jack wrote: Hi, could you kindly tell me how to start with VOIP component in maemo ? I have installed Gizmo and works fine, voice quality ok. But I don't need central server . I need local server and ad-hoc peer-2-peer connectivity. Any way to setup Gizmo to run locally, no-server mode, no accessing databases, no charging as local-based wifi use only ? I an say nothing about Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone as not tested yet. To me , integrated antenna solution is not ok for wireless mesh backbone. There is a number of WDS-enabled routers/APs on a market and today called Apple to see how WDS-enabled AirPort works in mesh configuration (unfortunately not tested by local Apple staff ). I just need to know exactly how each specific WDS implementation works (no data yet) and decide or not to write iptables dynamic routing tables on my own. Graph theory for this problem is not really complicated. TSA for mesh networks is exactly what I need to modify to employ network loops for bandwidth management and load balancing. There is a number of self-configurable wireless mesh networks + hardware, decscribed on the net but details how it really works and how any such solution efficient is. I must learn a lot and can write some graphs to describe how I do expect such wireless mesh network should work for me. Some solutions just resemble work of standard switches, replacing LAN ports by wireless ports. Visited Cisco network manuals for standards and procotols again and have to write such protocol, dynamic rerouting , mesh selfconfiguration algorithms from the scratch on myself, drawing a graph of nodes (APs) and simulating connections made and packages tranfer. I did the like job developing Pipes and pipelines at Yahoo. Unfortunately , working alone, it may take me a month or so to learn what I really need and what can be accomplished with standard network hardware available on a market. WDS is my first try. Trying to contact WDS developers to discuss my problem. Thanks. Darius --- On Mon, 25/8/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 4:35 PM Darios, why not consider the development/use a Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone and go from there with the already existing VOIP components in maemo? Here is the url to an abstract of a recent article from the IEEE communications magazine that discusses Voice over Zigbee. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4427240 A solution like this may, in fact, be cleaner than trying to jam an 802.11 mesh router into maemo. I don't know of any Zigbee USB dongles that have been tested with the N800 or N810 but others on this list might have tried one out. Here is the url to the www page that describes one such Zigbee USB dongle: http://adaptivemodules.com/integration_ia_oem-daub1_2400.htm A quick scan of the data sheet for this product suggests that it can form a mesh with other nodes.It also has Linux drivers. Here is the url to the www page for the Adobe Acrobat .pdf of the data sheet: http://adaptivemodules.com/assets/File/integration_802-15-4_usb%20dongle.pdf Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the SmartDigital^TM home, entrepreneurial enterprise, and emerging network service provider markets* * * *GSEC Gold, GCWN Gold, GAWN, GGSC-0100, NSA-IAM, NSA-IEM*** *Cisco Select Certified Partner and SMB Specialist | **Microsoft Small Business Specialist | Speakeasy Certified VOIP Partner | Linksys Authorized LVS Partner | Qualys Certified Qualysguard Specialist* * * (M) 703 407 2278 (F) 703 620 5388 (W) www.acadiasecure.com primary email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] backup email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Darius Jack wrote: Hi, looking for developers, contact persons for pending P2P VOIP, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Gizmo and the like project. What I am going to learn and work on is VOIP local telephony, like one developed by Robertson. Pls tell me if Gizmo P2P VOIP is still working, at what development state and how to have such project to work peer-2-peer in ad-hoc mode (meant locally, no server based). How to access a list of active users
Treeview drag and drop
I have a treeview in which it is possible to reorder rows by drag and drop. (It is also possible to drag a row into the treeview from another treeview.) It all works fine on Ubuntu, but on maemo I find that to drag a row from the treeview in question to itself, I have to move the stylus to a point outside the treeview before the movement registers as a drag. Any movements confined to the treeview itself will not trigger the drag. I suppose that there must be a problem with drag_check_threshold. Has anyone else has observed this behavior? Is there a workaround? -- Jeffrey Barish ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Treeview drag and drop
Hi, ext Jeffrey Barish wrote: I have a treeview in which it is possible to reorder rows by drag and drop. (It is also possible to drag a row into the treeview from another treeview.) It all works fine on Ubuntu, but on maemo I find that to drag a row from the treeview in question to itself, I have to move the stylus to a point outside the treeview before the movement registers as a drag. Any movements confined to the treeview itself will not trigger the drag. I suppose that there must be a problem with drag_check_threshold. Has anyone else has observed this behavior? Is there a workaround? I guess this could be because it conflicts with the drag multiselection interaction (you can try it in file manager). - Eero ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: On the problem of Nokia bugs substituting changelogs
ext Ryan Abel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Modest, in fact, seems to ENTIRELY substitute NB#'s for real changelogs[2]. Quoting a recent Modest changelog: modest (1.0-2008.26-1) hardy; urgency=low * Fixes: NB#83920, NB#86372, NB#86116, NB#84538, NB#84757, NB#85343 * Fixes: NB#85344, NB#85034, NB#83892, NB#84808, NB#84791, NB#82137 * Fixes: NB#83135, NB#85622, NB#86097, NB#86176, NB#85201, NB#84348 * Fixes: NB#81798, NB#85873, NB#85743, NB#84605, NB#81429 -- Dirk-Jan C. Binnema [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:01:57 +0300 I am guilty of this practice, too, (with the hildon-application-manager) but I think I have a semi-sane explanation: I use two files with change information: a GNU-style ChangeLog file in the top directory (or multiple of these in sub-directories), and Debian-style debian/changelog file. I use the GNU-style ChangeLog for detailed descriptions of changes to the source code (including bug numbers from both the internal and the maemo Bugzilla as background information), and I use debian/changelog for changes to the packaging bits in debian/. I also use debian/changelog for the magic Fixes: NB#x. entries that are required by our development process to drive the internal Bugzilla. What I don't do, but should, is to maintain release notes in a GNU-style NEWS file. (I would not write individual release notes for the dozens of snapshots it takes until the OS is released, I would just write a single one describing the user visible changes since the last OS release.) ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Treeview drag and drop
I find I have to tape and select the item, then tap and hold to get it to drag and drop. If I tap to select and immediately start dragging, I get the multi-select thing. If your treeview does not have multiselect, that sounds like a gtk bug. owen On Mon, 2008-08-25 at 10:23 -0600, Jeffrey Barish wrote: I have a treeview in which it is possible to reorder rows by drag and drop. (It is also possible to drag a row into the treeview from another treeview.) It all works fine on Ubuntu, but on maemo I find that to drag a row from the treeview in question to itself, I have to move the stylus to a point outside the treeview before the movement registers as a drag. Any movements confined to the treeview itself will not trigger the drag. I suppose that there must be a problem with drag_check_threshold. Has anyone else has observed this behavior? Is there a workaround? ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request
Thanks. Miraki is an interesting solution. Route around interference Meraki protocols detect and route around interference sources like microwave ovens and portable phones. The mesh routing tables are dynamic and update in seconds. Could you provide me with more details how dynamic routing is done ? On Meraki Outdoor ? Three Devices in One The Meraki Outdoor is a high-powered device of many talents. It is a gateway, a repeater, and an access point and works with all other Meraki devices. Interesting is multi SSID feature. Just need user's manual to learn how wireless mesh networks by Meraki work Darius (sorry, replies directed to you stay in draft box). --- On Mon, 25/8/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 6:11 PM Darius, you might also want to look into what Meraki has done with single (802.11g) wireless mesh radio systems/products. http://meraki.com/ They recently secured additional VC so their www site has been upgraded along with their products! Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Darius Jack wrote: Hi, could you kindly tell me how to start with VOIP component in maemo ? I have installed Gizmo and works fine, voice quality ok. But I don't need central server . I need local server and ad-hoc peer-2-peer connectivity. Any way to setup Gizmo to run locally, no-server mode, no accessing databases, no charging as local-based wifi use only ? I an say nothing about Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone as not tested yet. To me , integrated antenna solution is not ok for wireless mesh backbone. There is a number of WDS-enabled routers/APs on a market and today called Apple to see how WDS-enabled AirPort works in mesh configuration (unfortunately not tested by local Apple staff ). I just need to know exactly how each specific WDS implementation works (no data yet) and decide or not to write iptables dynamic routing tables on my own. Graph theory for this problem is not really complicated. TSA for mesh networks is exactly what I need to modify to employ network loops for bandwidth management and load balancing. There is a number of self-configurable wireless mesh networks + hardware, decscribed on the net but details how it really works and how any such solution efficient is. I must learn a lot and can write some graphs to describe how I do expect such wireless mesh network should work for me. Some solutions just resemble work of standard switches, replacing LAN ports by wireless ports. Visited Cisco network manuals for standards and procotols again and have to write such protocol, dynamic rerouting , mesh selfconfiguration algorithms from the scratch on myself, drawing a graph of nodes (APs) and simulating connections made and packages tranfer. I did the like job developing Pipes and pipelines at Yahoo. Unfortunately , working alone, it may take me a month or so to learn what I really need and what can be accomplished with standard network hardware available on a market. WDS is my first try. Trying to contact WDS developers to discuss my problem. Thanks. Darius --- On Mon, 25/8/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Gizmo Project, Wifi Walkie-Talkie, Wifi VoIP Telephony, P2P VoIP - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Monday, 25 August, 2008, 4:35 PM Darios, why not consider the development/use a Zigbee USB dongle to establish the wireless mesh backbone and go from there with the already existing VOIP components in maemo? Here is the url to an abstract of a recent article from the IEEE communications magazine that discusses Voice over Zigbee. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4427240 A solution like this may, in fact, be cleaner than trying to jam an 802.11 mesh router into maemo. I don't know of any Zigbee USB dongles that have been tested with the N800 or N810 but others on this list might have tried one out. Here is the url to the www page that describes one such Zigbee USB dongle: http://adaptivemodules.com/integration_ia_oem-daub1_2400.htm A quick scan of the data sheet for this product suggests that it can form a mesh with other nodes.It also has Linux drivers. Here is the url to the www page for the Adobe Acrobat .pdf of the data sheet: http://adaptivemodules.com/assets/File/integration_802-15-4_usb%20dongle.pdf Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * *Serving the
Re: Dynamic iptables firewall NAT IP masquerade shell scripts + dialog - kind request
Hi John and others, spent last days learning how to manage bandwidth in my router + server. What I need is dynamic bandwidth management. To have 3 classes of wifi users. class 1 - superuser - full bandwidth access class 2 - users identified by MAC address class 3 - anonymous users (no MAC address preedited Darius --- On Fri, 25/7/08, John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Holmblad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Dynamic iptables firewall NAT IP masquerade shell scripts + dialog - kind request To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: maemo-developers@maemo.org Date: Friday, 25 July, 2008, 5:13 PM Darius, would a VNC client on your 770 be a solution to manage your systems? If not,why not? Alternatively you install a linux virtual machine on one of your systems and VNC into it from your 770 and then use that linux VM to control the servers in your server farm. Best Regards, John Holmblad Acadia Secure Networks, LLC * * Darius Jack wrote: Hi, I am trying to restrict maemo wifi access to Internet on-the-fly and have one with admin's access ssh and have some preloaded shell scripts running on a server and the ability to edit shell scripts locally on maemo and sent to server to be run to avoid on-line shell script editing while wifi network is suddenly off. Ok. In plain words. I need OS2007HE (or OS2008) running 770 to act as a remote console for a number of servers and APs and to control some servers + AP remotely get traffic load data and more. Not necessary VNC . Going abroad I would like to still have a control of a server and AP, remote rebooting, remote ports closing, add/ remove MAC addresses and the like. So maemo as mobile Linux console. Any ideas, links to some scripting, dynamic iptables, firewall, NAT, masquerade thanks Darius Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented Re: Maemo Bug Jar #19
On Monday 25 August 2008 12:30:24 Stephen J. Gadsby wrote: Hi, I am missing bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented This is a web site bug, and the Bug Jar stopped including those a few weeks ago. It focuses on just Maemo software now, as several people commented the web site bugs were unnecessary noise in the summaries. It is not a web site bug. Documentation bugs are bugs in the software, not the website. Feature X does not work as documented and Feature X is not documented as it works (or at all) are EXACTLY THE SAME as far as the user of the feature are concerned. An excellent feature, that is not documented, is useless and is effectively missing. I care as little about whether the problem is found to be in the software or the documentation as I do about whether the bug is file_a.c or file_b.c. Personally I am not particularly keen on the web site bugs having been removed from the bug jar -- I would prefer to see them have their own section but the metrics that the bug jar shows are just as important for web site bugs. In particular, ones owned by Nokia (as opposed to the community) should be tracked in the bug jar. Graham ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
Re: Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented Re: Maemo Bug Jar #19
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Graham Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 25 August 2008 12:30:24 Stephen J. Gadsby wrote: Hi, I am missing bug https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes and usage not documented This is a web site bug, and the Bug Jar stopped including those a few weeks ago. It focuses on just Maemo software now, as several people commented the web site bugs were unnecessary noise in the summaries. It is not a web site bug. Documentation bugs are bugs in the software, not the website. Feature X does not work as documented and Feature X is not documented as it works (or at all) are EXACTLY THE SAME as far as the user of the feature are concerned. An excellent feature, that is not documented, is useless and is effectively missing. I care as little about whether the problem is found to be in the software or the documentation as I do about whether the bug is file_a.c or file_b.c. Personally I am not particularly keen on the web site bugs having been removed from the bug jar -- I would prefer to see them have their own section but the metrics that the bug jar shows are just as important for web site bugs. In particular, ones owned by Nokia (as opposed to the community) should be tracked in the bug jar. Personally, I'd like to see the maemo.org bugs have their own bug jar. If only to teach the Maemo Software people a thing or two about bugzilla use. *g* ___ maemo-developers mailing list maemo-developers@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers
